Xsens Link: The best inertial mocap (first look, and features)

[@eliezerben-hamo7745]

Caution! The capture system is excellent and does an excellent job with amazing results But the price of using the software, without which it is not possible to do anything with the capture system, is out of proportion and suitable only for huge companies and very large studios.

[@rustyrobotfactory]

Nice. Looking forward to what you create with the new set up!

[@wywarren]

I don't mind the steep upfront cost of xsens equipment but their relatively and similarly steep annual licensing is where commitment is hard.

[@grossimatte]

This aged well. They increased the price by 100% for the Motion Cloud monthly subscription.

[@tyleradams3490]

Very cool. I pieced together an ebay Optitrack system a while ago and got an insane deal on the software from a really nice sales rep. problem is I still haven't set it up! But I plan to install it in my garage.

[@WoodyDevs]

Fascinating! I would love to see a breakdown of your budget for it.

[@CinemaMotions]

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[@WoodyDevs]

When are you gonna direct me in this thing?

[@CinemaMotions]

@@WoodyDevs Booking a flight for NY.

[@PhilipLemon]

What gloves do you use?

[@stargazestudios]

Curious to know how it compares to the Smartsuit now that the Rokoko Coil is a thing !

[@realmcafee]

now your sport is going to do all the animation for us :D

[@quietlyworking]

All out baby!!!

[@hotsauce7124]

Hello, is there a new plug-in for UE 5.4?

[@radinbatis1302]

How much time do you spend on cleaning up? is it really clean or its just advertising?

[@LaurynasSFM]

Depends on each situation but you always need to clean up if just a little bit. I mean essentially even 50K mocap systems require a little bit of clean up. But of course it is still high quality data.

[@grossimatte]

Totally need to do cleanup, unless you are not producing professional-looking data (or you get VERY creative with shots).

[@NoahThomas29]

we have a awinda starter suit and all of the captures we do are like 95% ready to go after the HD process, xsen's HD processing is some magic as it does most of the work for us. the only thing we do afterwards is maybe our characters need their shoulders adjusted, very minor stuff that only takes a few minutes of work and its done. one of our last captures was i was laying on the floor and getting up to a stand position, in the raw data i was lightly moving around and gliding on the floor while laying there, the HD processing completely got rid of it on its own. its a god send compared to our other suit, the rokoko pro 1. the Rokoko was a nightmare to deal with, the suit basically never worked for us, calibrating the suit 80% of the time didn't work, and when it did, it gave some truly bad mocap data, the raw data required hours of cleaning up afterwards, and the end result didn't even look good. so yeah xsens even on their cheapest suit requires very little clean up in our experience.

[@theDwightness]

"They will not let people see you as god intended" 🤣

[@toyxyz3917]

Xsens's subscription pricing is so evil! I think they should at least offer the option to export the motion shown in the viewport without HD processing for free. And they need to get rid of those horrible time limits.

[@grossimatte]

Completely agree. Price for the motion cloud monthly subscription went up to 500$ per month overnight.

[@toyxyz3917]

@@grossimatte That's very bad news. Is that a tier 1 price?

[@grossimatte]

@@toyxyz3917 Yes, that's the minimum you MUST pay to use the suit. If you don't get a monthly subscription all you can do is record your data and watch it on your screen.

[@grossimatte]

@@toyxyz3917 yes

[@PhilipLemon]

Which model suit did you get?

[@WoodyDevs]

The link!

[@grossimatte]

Hey Woody, are you sponsored by Movella? (Xsens maker)

[@WoodyDevs]

Nope! Maybe some day! I bought this suit myself for my studio / business.

[@grossimatte]

@@WoodyDevs Awesome. I just find a lot of youtubers that use Xsense do not talk about how limiting the subscription model is, and how expensive and unfair it is to have to pay 250$ per month to export an .fbx. I wish influencers would spread the word in an attempt to sensibilize Movella about this issue.

[@LaurynasSFM]

@@grossimatte Spending anything more than 50 bucks a month (for an indie production) is unreasonable for a software fee. If a person commits to buying a 6K-10K suit... the software fee should be at most 50 bucks/euros a month.

[@grossimatte]

@@WoodyDevs They just doubled the price for the motion could monthly subscription.

[@WoodyDevs]

@@grossimatte I’m not seeing this on the website. I might have to ask my guy at movella. Man.. 😞

[@festus7128]

Is there a limit to how much data you can export?

[@binyaminbass]

No limit. Either you pay $300/month or you buy the software outright for...I can't say it...$30,000...🤮

[@WoodyDevs]

@@binyaminbass it’s definitely not 30, there’s two tiers of their animation software. The first one is more reasonable, but it’s still a lot. The second one is still way less than 30 by a huge margin.

[@festus7128]

@@binyaminbass is $300/month the indie price or is that the full price?

[@binyaminbass]

@@WoodyDevsI have an Awinda. Been using it for over a year now. The only software you would really use is Animate Pro, (since Record doesn't let you export, so what's the point in that?). Owning Pro used to cost around $22k or was it $24k? Then Pathfinder Acquisition made some kind of business combination with Movella and, in 2023, all their prices went up 10%. So yead, it's not $30k, it's more like $26-27k.

[@binyaminbass]

@@WoodyDevsYou should ask them, it's pretty steep. From what I remember, it's like $26-27k. I rounded. (Did you delete my previous reply to your comment?)

[@LaurynasSFM]

Xsens should adress the monthly software use first and foremost. A lot more people would buy it if the software cost like 40--50 bucks a month.

[@WoodyDevs]

A lot of people - including me would really like that. Their business models are geared toward studios who will pay annually. When you make enterprise level stuff, your customers start having things like "R&D budgets"

[@luc.schurgers]

Forget about that prop sensor mate. It's completely useless.

[@WoodyDevs]

Good to know. I haven’t tried mine yet.

[@luc.schurgers]

I tried to use it for a guitar and that was a nightmare. you will spend more time fixing the data so I'd imagine a gun or saber being worse. however the main issues is that once you add it the other sensors get confused and you have to reset them. @@WoodyDevs

[@WoodyDevs]

@@luc.schurgers that’s cool. Tried any of their vive intégrations? My rep sent me the guide recently. I’d love to give it a spin. Also, I dunno if you saw, but on my second channel I reacted to one of your replikant videos. It got me thinking a lot about ai streamers

[@luc.schurgers]

@@WoodyDevs the Vive integration with MVN kind of works, but noting compared to optical. It's slightly better for object tracking, but didn't do it for me. IMHO suits are 1 for person only and Xsens is great, but only if you do their AI cleanup. I did, but you missed the point completely and clearly didn't try Replikant. The chatbots are not for streamers and aren't even shipped yet in 0.3.

[@WoodyDevs]

@@luc.schurgers I definitely did not get the point or try it yet! I mean to at some point. I thiught the video was interesting and it was definitely a stepping off point for me to talk about something else. Second channel is for more circuitous winding thought patterns.

[@GeorgesEmmanuelArnaud]

Hi ! I would love to have a talk with you about this!

[@realmcafee]

price is $ 13,490.00 wtf

[@WoodyDevs]

I think mine was less than that. I had indie pricing. Prices for stuff like this change so it's worth getting a quote sometimes.

[@elvismorellidigitalvisuala6211]

500 usd a month to export animations... this is crazy

[@Tenchinu]

yeah…. would lov to celebrate, but just checked that price. Plus subscription!!??? Not peasant friendly 😢

[@WoodyDevs]

Yeah… its a real wallet puncher. But it also wasn’t as bad as I thought at the end of the day. Feels “big-boy-studio-mode” kind of surreal as this channel started with much much less