Battle Cats | Adherence to Virtue - Sage of Mind Soractes | No Uber, Level 50 units

[@thebestgreattusk1996]

You know things are real bad when you gotta use Cyberpunk as your main attacker.

[@obayashisan5026]

Fr...

[@RickyPlayz101]

I don’t even have sniper after playing battle cats for 9 months. Man why am I so unlucky.

[@itsurboithepro7519]

i thought octo was the main attacker

[@Felipesgaming_original]

@30_puma71three years

[@grammarlyofficial5780]

@RickyPlayz101 He is a limited super rare, check the available super rares and if he is there(There will also be other limited super rares with him) roll your tickets hopefully you get him

[@ramaicatseye]

This is done because people kept commenting on how many ubers you used last time. (Thanks for the guide, I’ll save this in case I need it.)

[@anonymousmuffin956]

Thanks, I’ll be sure to do this in 3 years when I actually reach that point in the game.

[@william_IV4]

Maybe at that point we’ll receive a sage killer that powercreeps this stage

[@catsarepro17]

Maybe not three years but I really have no idea why I'm watching this video when I'm not gonna be doing no gacha or this stage anytime soon

[@greenhat7618]

any sane person would do it with ubers, or even just an uber combo would make quite a bit it easier than what he did

[@encrypted2558]

2 years at best honestly

[@denimator05]

Imo Ponos is sleeping on a no-gacha stage restriction. They could phrase it like this maybe: Useable units (or whatever they say for 4-star): Common • Special • Select Rares • Select Super Rares

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

Or just literally say: "NO UNITS FROM RARE CAPSULE!!"

[@KsiezniczkaFindom]

We know that dark dogs is sage from another world so maybe gabriel is next

[@jojidubi4]

Soractes targets angels, so it seems very likely.

[@Xman81510]

You called it there is a sage dog and lemur now lol

[@yahanarachchillage2832]

No gacha is out of the question at this point 💀

[@xRip_bubbles]

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[@jojidubi4]

How many updates do you think we need before powercreep can finally make this possible?

[@fredericodesousaferreira5020]

​@@jojidubi4prob 1 or 2 and MAYBE 3 cuz sage slayer is a pretty early trait and after they release a freeze immune sage slayer meatshield(a good one atleast) then the stage will prob become pretty trivial maybe

[@AgentNat11]

@@fredericodesousaferreira5020 uh that meatshield is gonna have to tank 34k dps

[@JorgeCrack5000]

4 stars: Skill issue

[@urip_zukoharjo]

The fact Ponos name him soractes just feel so wrong in my tongue My tongue always love the Suck-our-teas pronunciation🥵🇬🇧🇬🇷

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

Catcrates is even worse

[@encrypted2558]

​@@mr.jitterspam9552cracratws

[@kaimy66]

This kinda is nostalgiac in a way when it comes to the layout of the stage. No bullshit, no gimmicks, just you and a tough-as-nails boss with his peons. Unfortunately, the unit isn’t half as good. I think Valkyrie might actually be better than him, and when *VALKYRIE* is arguably better, then that’s how you know you’re a shitty unit.

[@coolguymcfly]

b-b-but the summon!! 49k dmg nuke with weaken!!!

[@duongnguyen-mb3rp]

@@coolguymcflyme when CD: ⚰️

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

Wait until they do a naala on him (but 10 times stronger)

[@encrypted2558]

eh, i think soc is pretty decent

[@nicksplosion4311]

Damn, the cope that Socrates sucked back then was insane. How did anyone once realistically think he’s as bad as Valkyrie?

[@pokefan4737]

Floating is both the most and least powercrept typing in all of battle cats

[@sarajadi8184]

Yeah Camera fish man and octo are pretty old I think

[@FishGamingReal]

Unless they add some mad new advent stuff for T2 advent TFs, No gacha from this point onward is impossible

[@coolboyjacob5267]

Dogumaru was impossible with no gacha on release.

[@ash23703]

Dw powercreep will catch up soon enough, I'd give it maybe 2 updates

[@jojidubi4]

Yulala might have been impossible no-gacha (or very nearly impossible) back on its release as well.

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

Or a new brutal advent super meatshield who targets floating with an immunity to freeze

[@FishGamingReal]

@@jojidubi4 very nearly, the nogacha strat was manic mohawk only meatshield plus mkd stack

[@MrStephx0]

Seeing how I struggled even with level 50 phono, I am NOT looking foward to 4-star.

[@RickyPlayz101]

I completed stories of legend 4-star. There is no way I am doing uncanny legends 4-star.

[@willmathias2308]

Peak Terraria Calamity music makes this even better

[@theodorech20]

I did it, I use Kai for Uber and it helps out defending if she isn't exposed by Dark Doges. I also bring out Octo level 50+9 and maxing out his HP up talent and Freeze Resist level 5. Yes, this prove the instance where "Resist" talents actually useful enough, and thank god I already have Metal Cat as well. Just like Birth of True Man, I fear that this level is excruciatingly difficult without it.

[@liamtaylor9257]

I can't believe the stage introducing anti cc measures for enemies essentially requires cc(or ubercarry) to beat it

[@jojidubi4]

picked straight from the Forest of Irony

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

​@@jojidubi4because the forest of gapra was destroy by courier

[@Tank_Cats]

I had to use kai and luffy to beat this stage because RNG hates me and dont want to give me sniper cat :/

[@C0DY420]

Can’t wait for 4*

[@altarcat]

i basically used the exact same loadout ...except it took like 50 attempts because i have a skill issue .-.

[@victini7777]

Hopefully Ponor adds more Sage Slayer units (and Gachaless) to finally make Soractes possible non gacha

[@crazycat482]

I almost beat this with 50 max talents A floating defense orb medium defense combo hades lol. Got him down to 20%hp with the help of ramiel and mola king. Might have to opt for this strat tho as it was just not enough and I aint gonna farm any more floating defense orbs for hades. Also, is investing on octo's weaken talent worth now? Since it already has stupidly high uptime but sage ability decreases it, it might not be a bad idea to max it...

[@mrsquackyesreally1915]

If Ultra Windy was made to hard counter this boss, I feel like the next sage might be relic traited. Although UL Legends so they’d probably mix it with zombies

[@hungtien6229]

I think Ultra Form Windy wasn't made for this stage, but Ultra Talents Nurse was. UT Nurse has Sage Slayer and target Floating/Black.

[@walterwey9133]

The mayor difference between this level and yulala it's that floor 40 was fun

[@BizzareBlanch]

if i may ask, what would the other contenders for “hardest stage in the game” be alongside this one?

[@Abdullah-vg7bp]

ZL filibuster stage is imo

[@0broop0]

Depends on where you're at due to powercreep but primitive souls 3 crown is up there

[@akshayreddy4071]

Kappa brutal advent is pretty hard without crazy rng or atleast 1 surge immune uber

[@Milolaidus]

@@0broop0 At this point Primitive Souls 3 stars is REALLY NOT the hardest 3 stars in UL. It got powercreeped too much by UL legends TF and TF Uril.

[@Snillager]

3 star Kuala Lum Pool is up there for me

[@kia_ghaz]

4mil hp down with basically just cyber is impressive

[@nicolasocampo9725]

Still waiting for the review of huge hermit’s new form. When?

[@liampim6468]

Every guide I’ve seen either uses sniper or Uber spam, is there something you can sub sniper with?

[@XskullDrSkull]

No sniper lol you’re doomed

[@JustRaii.]

most balanced zl stage

[@jojidubi4]

The only other option is to just wait for the powercreep later this year.

[@ryanpang1181]

You can sub sniper with pure luck

[@LordOfPowercreep]

thank cat god that I got sniper right before I reached sorates

[@sanssmash9183]

Even though cyber and sniper are still used and necessary no Uber for now, this Sub-trait looks promising. Imagine only needing 2 desynced cybers instead of the 22 minute stack in this video that couldn’t even permanently slow. Like at this point it’s more of a problem with the unit itself if it needs to be used on every late game/boss stage, even one that attempted to counter one of its selling factors. (cc) and if ponor is too scared to nerf cyberpunk somehow, which would be a really bad decision; considering that it’s necessary for so many stages at this point, they could try to be less subtle about their attempts to limit the usage of cyber and just outright ban him in some stages (this could apply to different units too.) ponor could also use the ban thing generally and, for example, not allow wave block on a wave stage. This would make it actually do its job correctly. Basically, ponor just needs to use restrictions instead of introducing a whole sub trait to counter something. (Behemoth for surge spam/dasli, and sage for cc spam.)

[@wl-o8197]

I think that careful stage design is better than restrictions for banning units, for example using stuff like golem sunfish or croakly to snipe cybepunk or using high dps frontliners to kill octo quickly

[@akshayreddy4071]

​@@wl-o8197gotta be a low magnification golem sunfish or this level becomes actual hell (I would not be able to press phone button and win)

[@Milolaidus]

Yeah, it's sad how you can't make an interesting wave stage in endgame. Most of them are absolutely nightmarish but who care if your entire lineup is wave immune ? It's just mean that wave immune units are basically mandatory. It make the game less skillbase and more based on unit check. You could ban units by standing range just like you can ban units by price in CotC so.

[@wl-o8197]

@@akshayreddy4071 I don't mean on this stage, but on stages in general (doing this no cyberstack sounds like hell)

[@sanssmash9183]

@@Milolaidus that was just an example but I see your point. You even came up with a restriction of your own though nice

[@KsiezniczkaFindom]

How many attempts?

[@XskullDrSkull]

Like 5

[@dominatorx227]

Just beat this without sniper the recruit, Kai and Lufalan carried so hard

[@irfanmuzaki6698]

The hardest stage? fricking hell...

[@Something_from_space]

hattori hanzo is great for this stage

[@ryanpang1181]

Yall are talking about how hard this stage is when bctw doesn't even have the update yet

[@ryanpang1181]

Ponos forgor

[@grimm7783]

Oh god the 4 crown is hell

[@ksuri-lj2dk]

I did it yesterday. 4th form windy solo💀

[@majorleaguegamingpack828]

No gacha is easy, just get level 999 Bahamut and Manic Eraser then you’re good

[@khadirateytalla428]

Is balrog a good option here or is it bad?

[@Snillager]

Balrog gets obliterated by soractes’ omni before it can even attack

[@JorgeCrack5000]

Everyone saying about No Gacha strat but I'm thinking about something more important: 4 stars No Gacha is optional challenge, meanwhile in a future this chapter would be 4 stars

[@ThisNerdStupid]

good thing i had phono because he could pierce behind socrates to kill the dark doges for ez money

[@SlimyLizard]

Copying this strategy even with a research up L and I’m still not even close man. I don’t get how this is possible 😭

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

Its not unless you have omega- *BOOSTED* unit lmao

[@SlimyLizard]

@@mr.jitterspam9552 I’ve got all units up to 50+ man 😭

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

​@@SlimyLizarddo you have kai, hanzo or uf windy? Use them please

[@SlimyLizard]

@@mr.jitterspam9552 Kai yes, didn’t make enough of a difference. Just going to keep the stage on the back-burners for a while until something else is figured out or I can boost even more

[@clash_king1025]

If you’re running research L I recommend using metal cat he’s a really solid failsafe Beat this level first try yesterday using this lineup: Kimomo Champs (Himeyuri, So-Ran, Kite) Grand ChunChun Hunter (only for combo) Sniper the deadeye (30) Stone (50) Metal Macho (20) Octo (50+12; defense buff level 5) Bullet Train (50) Cyberpunk (48; slow max) B-Blast (30), Thunderbolt Style (only level 1 so doesn’t matter), Slow Base Foundation (Level 3 so idk if it matters) I did almost lose because I was in a cash starve and didn’t have any octos to protect my cyberpunks because I greedily got a 4th but rock + B-Blast saved me Also ran rich and sniper items ofc

[@toxiccomment8101]

Until ponos make a slow imune boss 💀💀💀

[@XskullDrSkull]

They were so close to ending us all

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

​@@XskullDrSkullresist ability eventually available to non sages (basically allowing for 100% resist) lmfao

[@muhammadfikriibrahim6095]

Korea stage omg

[@hsmit007]

I had windy ultra form soooooo

[@XskullDrSkull]

gg ez

[@fili2871]

lucky as shit man i cannot do anything , meatshields just die and i dont have any attackers that can do well against socrates and soges

[@coolboyjacob5267]

Doesn't count because lil Mohawk has plus levels

[@XskullDrSkull]

For the last time, Li’ls are not gacha. Ponor essentially confirmed that by abiding with Japan’s gacha law (notice how cat combos only have 1 gacha unit at most).

[@jojidubi4]

Besides, I highly doubt that the damage or health increases from those plus levels even matter in the slightest.

[@ash23703]

Oh no! he went from 4k hp to 7k hp against a boss and peons that do 24k dmg =w=

[@shadow_boxer_k]

this stage is kinda crap

[@XskullDrSkull]

I’m just glad we got something hard for once

[@amphibiansriseup596]

@@XskullDrSkullA hard stage is only good if it is well-designed. An example of this is the Yulala + Ururun stage or pre-Rocc HT Floor 47 where the challenge comes from good timing rather than broken units. Any stage that mandates the use of Cyber and/or Sniper for uberless runs is not well-designed. (which is also why starred UL fucking sucks)

[@mystiikl8442]

​@@amphibiansriseup596cook

[@JoeJoeAdventurer]

my octo is lvl 41 but i talanted so im good

[@eee_eee]

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