[NEW] Complete S-F Gun Tier List | Ghosts of Tabor

[@tilluh]

Would like to note, the ruger is very useful, you can kill scavs with almost no noise, giving other players no info on where you are unless they listen

[@Klerm]

Hell yeah

[@garrysanderson5793]

​@@Klermyou can hear that stupid thing across matka miest ffs. No. It's not good.

[@birdlawyer6191]

Does the benelli suppressed make any noise at all? I just slapped a suppressor on it and I cannot hear anything besides the rounds impacting, but I'm a little unsure if its just on my end because I don't have friends to test it. Also the benelli has the exact same recoil when fired with one hand compared to 2 hand hold, which has some pros and cons I guess.

[@birdlawyer6191]

The ruger is only useful as an attachment holder.

[@theendoftheworld9921]

Suppressed with a snipe scope red dot combo and ap its alright. ​@@garrysanderson5793

[@michaelwoodby5261]

JW 1911 has like a 16 round capacity. Between that and the rails both the socom and JW are substantially better than the standard 1911. To further ruin your fun, the 45s and 9mm take the same number of rounds to kill, assuming you're hitting center mass, so the base Glock is just better than all of them unless you're shooting extremities. And if you do need to dig through armor, the Tokorov is better than 45 or 9.

[@justmonika7227]

Dude ikr I like tan but sometimes his takes are scalding hot 😂 he doesn’t look at it very objectively for trying to look at it objectively-

[@rikosmidt8852]

I think the JW 1911 is actually the JW 2011

[@garrysanderson5793]

It's a Colt Commander with a double stack mag irl I think, just some visual mods. ​@@rikosmidt8852

[@CharlieA-w4p]

It has definitely change my whole gun rotation so glad you went in-depth with it amazing appreciate you

[@Tanvarian]

I gotchuu

[@clownjuice8392]

2 hours of calm tan not “OMG OUR 9TH GPU THIS RAID!” Is very refreshing 💀

[@correction_s]

Great video with the great deep dive comparison! Would be great to see this tier list overall separately to make some comparison in my vault, but still I found out so much useful about guns, thank you!

[@Tanvarian]

[@prestonwolff1141]

The galil is my favorite early wipe but now knowing that it can 2 shot kill with AP ammo i might have to put a kit together with it! Plus a fully kitted Galil is a vibe. Its a pretty sweet looking rifle

[@Klerm]

Has pretty nice sights too, i like it as well early wipe

[@andrewparisotto2631]

@@Klermits feels the same as the M4 to me pretty much so i kinda use them interchangeably allthough you get better attachment placement on the M4

[@banditveteran]

“9x39’s penetration just isn’t good” The wiki trying to tell Tan it’s the same as 7.62x39 and 5.56x45: 🗿

[@Unreelme]

From base stats it looks like the best weapon in the game besides the big round rifles. Should definitely be high A or S. 1000RPM, 2 shot kill, suppressor, same pen as 556. Edit: also the BAR is like a budget G3, considering AP 3006 is the same as 762x51.

[@dmhplays]

The best tier list series in any game. I love the fact that you use audience input, I might steal that page out of your book for that. That’s the only reason I trust your tier lists above all else, you use audience input.

[@Synthetizard]

At 13:00 you actually mixed up the 57 with the USP. Which fun fact, that older model is an FN Five-seveN mk2 (Yes its spelled that way, haha fabrique nationale), and the new model is a Five-seveN Mk3 MRD. I normally don't like the tan FDE color, but it does nicely contrast against the other handguns

[@Tanvarian]

Good catch! Thanks

[@Danny83Munich]

Damn Tan, with your hairstyle, you could totally co-moderate the next episode of Ancient Aliens with Giorgio A. Tsoukalos ^^ I wish I had half of that on my head xD

[@Tanvarian]

LOL

[@Firewolf-cg7pj]

I like the CX8 if I have nothing else but if I get an SKS the CX8 is going on my chest until I find a better gun like and M4

[@christiangray7826]

I love this video, helps me a ton bridge the gap between being a good player and being an amazing player

[@frenchfryyt5730]

Pro tip: Put a Nightforce on the front rail of the L85 and put a dot on that. Works great as a riser assuming you don't mind spending 12,000 or so to make an unusable gun slightly more usable

[@DxrkTerminal]

Why would anyone use the L85 in the first place lol.

[@jman_soup]

i guess if you find a nightforce and a sight in a naked raid somehow and you only have the l85 its a good tip

[@PorkinsRevenge]

the FN 57 has the same armor penetration stats as 7.62x39 and 5.56 according to the wiki... because 5.7 is actually a rifle round. It and the deagle are the only two pistols that have real penetration... which does in fact make it better the rest of the pistols. despite the lower base damage compared to the .45s. Because .45 and 9mm just dont have good penetration stats even with AP.

[@PorkinsRevenge]

CX is absolutely C-tier... it's a decent gun. I've killed a bunch of players and fenix with it... not as good as ump/vector/etc

[@BedsOfChaos]

Jw pistols have xtra mag capacity over their regular counterparts, nice to see the galil get some love, I always go back to it when I’m down on luck

[@Tanvarian]

You're right!

[@ssdeaglez]

Rating of as val and VSS is outrageous. You're saying 1:43:57 the penetrations of 9x39mm are not very good. But as a matter of fact they are EXACTLY the same as 5.56 and 7.62x39.

[@birdlawyer6191]

Yeah, aside from 30round mags being level 5 I do love those guns. Even with the 20s I managed to get a couple duos, but it's pretty close

[@pontious99]

The G3 being available at Spectre 3 is insane. With FMJ rounds, is a one shot on someone who forgot to heal up after their first scav encounter. Similarly the Tapco SKS may not be a full 2 shot on FMJ, but on the off chance you cause a bleeding wound, they drop before they can bandage.

[@Tanvarian]

Yesss

[@birdlawyer6191]

I feel like I have gotten bleeds under 10 times in the past 3 wipes. And I'm pretty sure the majority of those times were the raids I forgot to bring any meds in.

[@pontious99]

That's kind of weird. I feel like 50% of the firefights I walk away from I get a bleed anymore.

[@papapie7075]

FAMAS is a bullet hose when you select full auto btw. Post update it’s now the starting select.

[@miaugau]

bro is mixing up the USP with the 5.7 💀💀💀

[@Tanvarian]

LOL

[@Thatonegamer31]

The tan luck is real! I went on a raid got purple but it no clipped, Found a friend to play with, we hit vault and got preeetty bad stuff, but after that we went naked in silo AND KILLED BOSS and now me, of all people me, a 2 day noob, has t6 armor and t6 helmet with gold sks. Thank you for the tips Tan, You don’t know how much this helps.

[@Tanvarian]

NICE

[@MW3Loadies]

Bro imagine if Keanu Reeves decided to start playing💀

[@MisterCoolManGuy]

i watched the whole stream yestarday and it was really intertaining +1 subscriber!

[@Tanvarian]

[@Ace_Of_Spades578]

The cx8 storm is actually a very solid weapon when paired with a grip, the grip kills the recoil and turns it into a very accurate bullet hose (think ppsh but medium range capabilities) I personally never had a problem with the mag size maybe it's just you.

[@vanzy_855]

Same CX8 was basically the broke version of mpx, shoot same caliber and have little to no recoil, also were released at the same time.

[@Tanvarian]

I'll give the gun some more shots then :D

[@Pith_and_Vinegar]

What about the lack of a firing mode indicator? That feature (or lack thereof) has gotten me killed while using this gun more timesthan I am willing to admit on a public forum 😅. I'll use it on a naked run, but if I exfil with it I'm selling it immediately after getting back to base!

[@andrewparisotto2631]

@@Pith_and_Vinegarhavent had that problem with the cx8 had that problem with more than 1 gun but it definitely wasnt because of bad selector graphics lol crazy its so low lvl and can take so many attachments amazing gun to kit out for silo and not feel bad about losing

[@birdlawyer6191]

​@Pith_and_Vinegar I've been trying to do a quick 2-5min practice raid any time I change gear or die. Far too many times I have forgotten meds or food. And I always check to make sure my guns are off safety and on full auto. And also triple check I don't have any equipment so I don't take nods into a day raid again.

[@bigjuan87]

The only reason I still rock the 1911 is I like to think I’m Naked Snake in MGS3 “Commencing Virtuous Mission”

[@Bell_Arclide]

The fact that you put the ASVAL in B tier under things like the M4 and Galil is mind boggling especially since its rate of fire, accuracy and damage are far far superior. It is also one of the very few full auto assault rifles that can 2 shot with AP ammo. Only detriment to the gun is that its stuck at 30 round mags but even with that caveat it should be no lower than A tier IMO at least on par with Tapco SKS as it beats it in every way aside from the mag size.

[@Tanvarian]

I'm gonna spend a lot mroe time with the ASVAL this wipe, seems like a powerful gun

[@Bell_Arclide]

@@TanvarianIts a sleeper for sure. In wipes 1-3 it had no recoil at all even one handed so after they fixed that people stopped using it but honestly it shreds and especially shines in Silo where the rate of fire makes it feel like using a chainsaw

[@whyyousosalty7859]

To be fair, in his defense, the ASVAL was slept on 5 months ago when this video was made. The gun is easy S tier, but no one used it enough because of 20 round mags before spec 5

[@Rich_duckk]

0:42 big hopes for this video tan especially with the facts here

[@pontious99]

My thoughts on the CX, Either D or F tier. Right behind the Glock, same ammo type, but glock hits shots easier. Its only saving grace is that you can use it to carry attachments if you dont bring in a bag.

[@Tanvarian]

Agreed!

[@mattraw04]

The cx is amazing a teir for me personally. I only shoot every gun in semi never use full auto

[@Tanvarian]

Nice!

[@Trxps_Dark]

You should a tier list of every video you made based on 2 things: how much loot you got and how much you freaked out

[@rudomeister]

I subscribed to Hello Fresh for a while, until the point I realized they are way to expensive in weight for how the bussniness idea works. They sell you raw food, and you have to create it, and you are the one who pay the transportation. What reminded me about my own business idea. What if you only had to visit the store once a week.. and so on...

[@Tanvarian]

Makes sense

[@salmonskinlover2365]

your guides are BEAST bro, appreciate you 🙏🙏🙏

[@Tanvarian]

I gochuuu

[@Jay.window22]

W video, I recommend this a lil ago idk if you saw it, but nice to see you did an updated one

[@Tanvarian]

Glad you liked. I do remember you asking :D

[@GuardianCharr]

We all know the makarov is the best gun in the game

[@silasannanack6129]

Nah it’s ruger AP

[@tiraud105]

Spoon.

[@Baltra211]

love your vids tan keep them up

[@linkibear8644]

The MP40 was surprisingly useful as a starter weapon.

[@MW3Loadies]

Wait I'm confused i thought that the CX4 was 45 acp not 9mm🤔

[@Koolkid542]

I just subbed to your twitch tan my favorite content creator ❤

[@arguy3297]

Why would an M16 have a faster firing rate than the M4? Physically just doesnt make sense.

[@wbhandy]

I agree on everything but Galil. Its the only 5.56 gun that does more than 50 damage (w/ AP), making a 2 shot kill. Its also the highest damage dealing gun other than an AK Alpha that can mount a sight, grip, and be effective in full auto.

[@Tanvarian]

Galil is very strong!

[@birdlawyer6191]

You don't think the Val is effective? Even full auto it is pretty accurate. I get the m4 fires a little fast, but what about the scar and ak5c? I do like the galil, front mounted optic isn't ideal but it works. I think I'd take the slight decrease in damage for one of those instead though. Is there any reason the ak5c should be used in place of the scar? They feel pretty darn close in my hands and the scar is half the cost.

[@jforkner8]

tan ima be honest in my opinion having a as val with the canted grip and armor piercing, best gun in the game. it’s fires so fast, does a good amount of damage, and if you have ap in it it melts through kitted dudes. the only downside for it is having to grind krtek for the 30 round mags the goons with the vss drop sometimes. or you could just get like spectrum level 5 but that takes a while. as val definitely does not deserve b rank lol

[@jforkner8]

and the ak alpha is s rank but 7.62x39ap has the same armor penetration as 9x39ap it just shoots slower and has a lower dps then as val. if we were going by that then ak alpha should be in like b rank or sm with as val.

[@Tanvarian]

You're right, the gun is easily A-S tier

[@derpMCgee-xd7ez]

Mr taddy waddy sure does fill me up with joy

[@Littleman-ik1zm]

I'll be honest i got this game after all these videos and well .ets just say i dont have the best internet so im starting to give up on it so i play pavlov so i dont forget how guns work but in the meantime i watch you vids to keep updated

[@Tanvarian]

I feel it, you'll ahve stable internet at some point!

[@vzach3782]

i was here for this stream! very fun

[@Tanvarian]

Thanks for coming!

[@dylanhuynhle6437]

Day idk of asking tan to shorten his vids

[@H1TnRun69]

13:34 I had a ruger 22 in my holster when I was doing a naked run i quick drawed on a player the barrel was in his fukin mouth and I shot ONCE and was like “wHaT tHe HeLl” then I died to him😂💀💀

[@Tanvarian]

lololol

[@B_Technician]

Much appreciated anigo❤❤❤

[@kraazykiller3305]

Even though the list is older, ASVAL not being at least A tier is insane. It should be tip top S tier in my opinion, it shoots a caliber similar if not better to 5.56 in number values, shoots faster than boss SKS with zero recoil, and comes with an integrated suppressor with rails. It only costs 14K, LITERALLY 33% CHEAPER THAN A RIFLE SUPPRESSOR ALONE! the only reason I feel it would deserve A tier, is because you need Spec 5 for 30 rounders, but in terms of value nothing will beat the ASVAL.

[@Tanvarian]

It is S tier, you're right

[@tjcarlover6701]

Aug would be at least a if it had a rail instead of the stupid scope

[@shadykitt5023]

LETS GO!!! The last one was my favorite video

[@Tanvarian]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@charliekongo9896]

How do I find the page with all the damage for each gun please and thank you

[@Tanvarian]

search ghosts of tabor wiki on google.

[@Scorchedaep]

how did you get the H&K mixed up with the 5.7 they look nothing alike

[@RoastedGinger]

Bro this list is necessary lol!!! Also the only thing m16 and l85a2 are good for is taking stanag mags!! Personal opinion!! Love the videos bro!! Cant wait for community stream tonight!!

[@Elbo9988]

I got 4 kitted kills with the Cx in missile silo

[@Tanvarian]

NICE

[@SlayerOfKarma]

Marcelo says hi.

[@Sleezy-yeti]

I wish they would bring back the uzi and add a full auto glock maybe even bring back the pump shotty and add aight mounts on some of the pistols would be nice too

[@blumilkBW]

We live in the universe where Tan hasn't even watched his own tier list from 6 months ago WHAT ARE THESE PLACEMENTS? HE DOESN'T EVEN REMEMBER GUNS THAT HE ALREADY PUT IN A TIER LIST BEFORE! Is he doing drugs????

[@gagelindner2438]

the jw 34 and glock are the same thing. The jw is a parts kit for a glock 18 chasis same with the other jw its just a 1911 guccied up. In the gun community we call them both a gucci glock or gucci 1911. the real version is hella expensive.

[@Fabyn_]

I think that the CX is worse than other smgs asspecially because of small mags but its still my favorite budget early game gun. Its also the only gun on level 2 that has those rails.

[@Tanvarian]

it is a good budget gun!

[@WeinersnitzelTheRat]

did you perhaps enter a silo raid where you met three players, and one was killed with a shotgun? and perchance said you were checking "chat" and after getting your name mentioned you went silent and fled?

[@LoneWolfAndKub]

Yesssssssss Thank you Tan!!!

[@Tanvarian]

You're welcome!

[@voicedartest6196]

Pretty sure john wick dlc 1911 has a bigger mag?

[@Ingguts]

Where do u find the website for all the guns

[@c-bo_the_gamer_yt9253]

Tabor wiki

[@ultimate_master8997]

cx8 is a really good gun i mean the rail space and just spectre level 2 best pick for this level my opinion

[@thadmeboy1129]

I think you need to put it into context. Sure late game most pistols are bad but early game they are cheap and easy to use.

[@Tanvarian]

Tru for some. Is rather use an sks early over a pistol, same access level 1

[@thadmeboy1129]

@Tanvarian I've only had the game for about a week and haven't leveled specter up yet so anytime I find a glock or similar pistol in a raid I bring it back and keep it around to use later.

[@DiamondVR7]

I can agree that the deagle does one shot to the torso I got shot with one without any armor and got one shot with it and yes it was AP

[@MelonBoi814]

Something i always tell my friends is its not the gun its the person holding it, because dear God the times i get killed or kill by some tier 1-2 guns

[@Tanvarian]

Yep!

[@garretwoeller7669]

The should add a magnum

[@BlackFeather-px1qz]

A revolver styled pistol is coming in the next wipe!

[@perkl8er849]

I hope you end up making a new tier list with the newest wipe

[@Tanvarian]

Eventually, yes!

[@necrodemon370]

C teir is a good call for the cx9. It's ok, works better with some attachments, single, full auto, and burst. It's definitely mid

[@Pith_and_Vinegar]

Agreed, but the lack of a physical indicator for its firing modes makes me want to throw it in the D category. If I have no other choice I will use, but mostly I'll sell it and the ammo immediately after exfil.

[@necrodemon370]

@@Pith_and_Vinegar yea, took me a few days using it before I figured that out too. Definitely agree that's needed for it

[@Geeky_Animations]

The M1 SASS is my favorite gun of all time

[@jmbe6310]

F ruger but now at least you can put laser sights

[@korbenjrae9250]

Removed suppressor

[@mbalunda]

You are the best ghost of tabor KZbinr🎉🎉

[@Tanvarian]

[@landonoswald5824]

Tan for a video please use the ASVal it is easily an A tier and if your good with it it’s an S tier it can counter most other weapons and the range and fire rate on it is crazy.

[@Tanvarian]

Bet, I'll spend more time with it

[@landonoswald5824]

Horray. Set up I use is okp7 sight with a canted and laser only issue with this gun is msg size

[@punkinbee1]

CX8 storm in D is crazy to me

[@NateDawg6]

I’m really lucky with mosin, I’ve one shotted everyone I’ve hit with it, one had great gear

[@Tanvarian]

NICE

[@Perfectdark_007]

Can someone compile a list of all the names of the guns he placed in each class?

[@christiangray7826]

M4 is S+

[@bellarodriguez8493]

Yaaaaaaaaaaay we LOVE U TAN U ARE ALL OF OUR FAVORITE

[@Tanvarian]

[@bellarodriguez8493]

@@Tanvarian

[@The_russian_communist]

The Browning Automatic Rifle is an S++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tier. I even use it with facemask.

[@Sleepingx_]

How he plays this game more than me and I know the 57 and the usp how

[@Tanvarian]

lol

[@Warden585]

about how many grams of protien are in teemo

[@StinkyMan210]

Bro got the 5.7 and the USP 45 mixed up

[@EagleUK.]

LETS GO ANOTHER VID

[@Robedq]

I just got a orange keycard from one of the outer watch towers

[@Tails.6]

Ruger needs to be s tier

[@_Pixal]

Tan If you reply with a shark joke to this comment then I will straight grind to get 5 fin reapers🦈🦈🦈 49:59

[@_Pixal]

Yikes no reply…. That’s fine I’ll still go for one anyways lol

[@ZWEELEX]

I shred with mat 49, aiming is so ezz . Ezzz head shots

[@Tanvarian]

Yesss

[@FishRepair]

Oh they spelled my name wrong for my UMP

[@Loleylikescats]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE VECTOR 10MM WENT DOWN A TIER?!??

[@NirvanaFan129]

Bro called the FN a USP💀

[@JXtasycraze]

I feel like you could’ve knocked this out in 15 minutes

[@birdlawyer6191]

Is the mpx in the same class as mp9? That doesnt seem right. Mpx shoots so flat, mp9 recoil sucks. Both have one side rail and top.

[@Tanvarian]

I believe they are.

[@I.love.myself9194]

You got the 5.7 mixed up with usp

[@Tanvarian]

yea

[@sus-vh4jz]

bros been yapping for 2 hours

[@Tanvarian]

Some say I'm still yappin

[@lunatheloudlab4315]

His hair is DISTRACTINGLY BOUNCY

[@Tanvarian]

yessss

[@Polarandblue]

Why did you put the cx in c

[@YukonWilleh]

I think each gun type should be graded on their own. Pistols Smg Bolties Shotties So on

[@Tanvarian]

Agreed, a split category tier list would be good to show the best of each class of weapon.

[@wenchiemedina2389]

He never took mag size or other qualities into account?

[@thecat9599]

Yes he did

[@keyternal]

you mixed up the five seven and the usp and it hurt

[@Tanvarian]

RIP

[@Klerm]

Another banger