Y'know You're Curious: Unno Burn Review | 2023 Enduro Bike Field Test

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[@Nicoya]

I think the next Grim Donut frame is gonna have to have a seat tube that lets the bottom end of the dropper post extend out below the bottom bracket.

[@levifulop7283]

Cool

[@demonic_Jet]

I'd cut off the seat tube and have a trial bike with suspension 😂

[@BasicBodThor]

Seen photos of this bike here and there, didn't think it was an actual production bike haha On an aside, one thing I miss from other field tests is a breakdown of the different builds and component specs

[@alexh.4068]

I liked the table version better rather then the 3rd person doing a voiceover. Also, they didn't do climbing or descent timings, which were interesting/entertaining.

[@alexh.4068]

Also, wish there was more personal feedback from each of the reviewers as there was in the past.

[@BasicBodThor]

@@alexh.4068 Yeah I agree. This format is good for a general overview of the bikes...but I do miss the more in depth reviews from previous field tests.

[@casestudymtb]

Been a while since we've seen a review of a bike that boils down to "it's crap". What year is this?

[@GaedeRafael]

They tried to say in this video but wanted to be polite

[@mudkayak6305]

love the low standover = more of this please

[@customerisalwaysrigh]

Great looking bike but kinda gratifying to see something like seat tube length be valued so highly. That and insertion depth have until very recently always been my biggest criticism for the bikes ive owned.

[@Frorideism]

Imagine buying that, and your riding is still looking like a hungover dad a week after Christmas. Actually could be the ultimate in dentistry equipment, That said, love the look of the Unno's, damn. 🤌

[@parkercollins7946]

Hapsburg Jaw of mountain biking. Damn , thats a sick.......Burn.

[@JoshAllenberg]

I wheezed

[@Mile-long-list]

Wtf is with the comments from India that are all like I love you , you're astonishing....lol wtf is wrong with bots these days

[@frankkami4286]

you should see the bot-comments below german videos xD they are sooo much better xD

[@Mile-long-list]

​@@frankkami4286lol i will have to take a look

[@deedontworry]

Such a unique bike!

[@dadventuretv2538]

They basically figured out mtbs and got them to where anybody can copy the formula and produce a decent one since about 2019. So now some brands have to revert to “look at how crazy and wonky our bike is” to distinguish them from all the rest. Or give us a bunch of sh!t nobody asked for- I’m looking at you autoshift and ABS- that dumbs down and changes the essence of what mtbing is.

[@justsayin3600]

They are making a self-pedaling, self-steering mtb, with heads-up display. It's the future!

[@rstrakovsky]

Damn, this is the most damning review in a while.

[@henriklantzhedstrom6709]

I love mine to death. 🔥 Compared to the Ripmo AF I was riding last year this thing feels like a magic carpet.

[@HeretiCflow]

"Looks are... *dramatic pause* ... distinctive." - It's ugly, that's what it is. 😄

[@CurtisCycles]

Absolutely love the way this bike looks!

[@justsayin3600]

Why buy a 10k bike when you can buy a Specialized Stumpjumper Evo S-Works with less travel for 14k? Unno is a budget buy by Specialized standards.

[@riccardovisca8935]

It's good for the ones that like to size down

[@benjy288]

Good for stand over clearance, but I have my doubts on how long that seat tube will last, that's a lot of leverage on it.

[@NplusOneMTB]

I ride an Unno Mith (the electric version of the same platform) for almost a full year including park and e-enduro racing, no problem at all.

[@iL250]

You have warranty for that

[@benjy288]

@@NplusOneMTB Hopefully it will be OK, but a year isn't really that long, I'm more concerned about how it will hold up after 4 or 5 years or more, like if someone brought a used one that's a couple of years old and then keeps it for another few years or longer.

[@benjy288]

@@iL250 Probably not if you brought it used, which a lot of people do because new bikes are very expensive.

[@iL250]

@@benjy288 buy what you can afford then. If you worry about frame snapping than buy new frame or bike on sale, there's plenty But don't get second hand bike if you don't have money for servicing top of the line shocks(which are expensive),, spares(because you won't put a nx derailleur instead of gx axs on such a bike, right?) and so on. And the reason why you can get used bike for half the price is because you lose warranty. That's the market.

[@frankkami4286]

This bike looks really cool :-) Yes this golden tube could be 5-10cm shorter to compete with an dh-bike. But to be fair, most enduro-riders I see around need it longer ;-)

[@Adarsh-zx3tj]

Good bike

[@Chris7uk00]

I'm just waiting for the frame to snap at some point, there is a reason why bikes are made with triangle shapes, also the head tube must flex from side to side!, because after a few inches there no support across the top tube to the seat tube to stop twist?...I wouldn't ride it?

[@MaQuGo119]

What happen to the Unno Horn?

[@Nein_doch_oooh]

The best looking bike out there for sure. The seat tube doesn't bother me. I will buy one very soon! I don't care about the bottle cage. I live in Spain. We have one of the most demanding trails in the world. Especially where I live. Everything here is anti-flow. We basically have no straight lines and no marble highways. The trails are rough and extremely technical. So, the perfect conditions for this bike. The water bottle storage on every bike, for me is kinda useless. In summer we have always extremely high temperatures. This means, one big sip and my water bottle is empty. I always need a camel back. I guess, this Spanish bike is just right for Spain. I also don't like long seat posts. My background is downhill. I don't like long seat posts, although I am around 6'6' - 6'7' tall,...

[@piast99]

But that seat tube is so long for a reason. If it was shorter you wouldn't be able to put longer dropper anyway because you would need also longer insertion depth. Now look at that frame and see when the bottom of the cylindrical section of the seat tube ends and the tube splits around the shock. I bet that even that 150 mm dropper inserted fully ends just above that point.

[@paulwintermute1495]

Really reminds me of the Honda DH bike that Minnar used to race.

[@denaude7058]

I liked the previous Unno better.

[@MrChadLedford]

Mike Levy we miss you terribly. That is all.

[@michaelrandall9034]

Yep, miss Pinkbike too.

[@marcobribiesca9697]

10 mm stem ?

[@derrickherder4768]

Wonder how a coil would work on this

[@NplusOneMTB]

Pretty good actually

[@alexh.4068]

Maybe the seat tube isn't a issue in the small size, so it is ideal for more average height riders. :-)

[@danytheunicorn95]

it,s the opposite

[@alexh.4068]

@@danytheunicorn95 def not, you must be new to mtbing

[@noxed11]

Function sadly sounds like it follows form here. Such a beaut, sorry that it is a compromise.

[@conman1395]

Guys if you're gonna talk about how it has a "high progressivity" then you need to share what the progressivity is so we can compare it to other known bikes. That's like talking about a bike being "so expensive" and never mentioning the price.

[@yohananwalker]

It's about time to tell us all where Mike Levy is? No goodbye? No nothing?

[@OscarHernandez-xx2je]

Didn’t you see the Grim doughnut part 2? He took too long….😂

[@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293]

he took money when pb was sold and doesn't have to work or at least he can do whatever he wants having $$$

[@brian6speed]

honestly it is none of your business. what kind of a priviledged f*ck are you? I demand ppl tell me where they are at all times, I'm special and have a right to know...

[@tl924]

The Mclaren F1 of bikes.

[@Canyon_Shawn]

So, basically compared to the competition, it just plain stocks!

[@corail53]

We really caring about rattles? Bikes aren't silent - time we get over that.

[@ertugrul791]

We all know that their favorite is the ibis

[@rnburley]

And they didn't mention cleaning or adjusting the rear shock. Looks cool but that's about it.

[@madtho]

10pts for using ‘gauche’ in a mountain bike review 🏅

[@jrsfield]

This seat tube thing feels like a red herring to me, especially if you say its 5cm longer than others. Did you take into consideration that the toptube is so much lower than on other bikes? Did maybe the visuals influence your perception? The split in the frame for the shock is not unique either, mondraker superfoxy or canyon sender are offering the same rear suspension under seattube tunnel, or are we saying all of them are too long? Am not saying it as a theory, it is one of my actual custom builds and cant say that bb to seat tube top it would actually be longer than other bikes I rode, but the toptube is definitely the lowest I ve ever had.

[@SasquatchK]

Measurements are not perception. 5cm is a lot in a seat tube. When it's fully dropped, it's too high, and when it's fully extended it's not high enough because a tall enough dropper cannot be fitted. Canyon Sender is a dh bike, fixed seat post and height. Top tube height is irrelevant. You are never in a position in between the saddle and stem.

[@jrsfield]

@@SasquatchK 5cm is a lot, though 0-1cm is not that extensive. 460 is not such an unusual lenght, though people do not speak about it on a mondraker because the visual does not make itbso obvious. The shock under the seat tube is not so rare. Also the burn can accommodate easily a 200mm and other brands routinely include only 150mm drippers to reduce cost. Am not daft, IMHO the point is not that convincing unless you have tue visual and decided that the seatpost is a point.

[@oldkayakdude]

40% sag on a 160mm bike = 96mm of travel left when your at neutral. The first 64mm is only going to be relevant after you unweight and then its all down to the initial compression dampening.

[@JinPheh]

Wouldn't the wonky leverage ratio change these numbers? Assuming they measure sag at the shock and not wheel travel that is.

[@drewtokarsky3917]

Seems like when a sag is that high should necessitate sagged geometry.

[@kleenhall6885]

Well if you don’t know what progressive or digressive geometry is then you’d wonder why. Most bikes made today are digressive for most of the travel No body abs I mean no body is talking about real progression vs the fake progression the bikes manufacturers want you to see with their graphs If you weigh 180 and ride over a 250lb coil. Your bike is digressive. Think about this. A Honda Civic has a 250lb coil rate and a Chevy truck is 600lb. Why are bikes on the same rate ?

[@justsayin3600]

The point of 40% sag is that it looks good on the stand or on the wall as artwork.

[@SasquatchK]

​@@kleenhall6885leverage ratio and damping, single shock, aggressive riding and terrain vs. 4 shocks and springs, smooth roads, no linkages, comfort driving with no dynamic input from a rider

[@ryanmichels2981]

Check out that seat tube! Why TF did they feel a need to make it so ridiculous long. Then they put on a short dropper…

[@158158cow]

Anything longer would probably foul on the suspension

[@kennethroth6757]

Unno finally grew some balls, built bigger frame sizes 👏

[@bensun432]

Anyone know what happened to the other Mike?

[@kevinkunst4822]

Day 132 of asking where levy is.

[@MarioXcore1]

Dude stfu. Infinitely worse than a Taylor swift fanatic. I understand you may be infatuated with Levi but hes just a normal guy man, let him live his life.

[@wonderwatch2239]

They actually answered that in their podcast, he’s out and about, minding his own business, and so should we….🤷‍♂️

[@MrChadLedford]

The only thing we want to know.

[@energ8t]

He moved to North Korea to start a MTB club for their leader.

[@mercenarygodOG]

#leavelevybe, PB has answered this question multiple times...

[@BeyReaper]

I think this bike is for the Roadie that got their toe dipped into mountain biking but doesn't ride on the more technical trails, whether it's lack of skill or too afraid to, where better suspension is warranted. Easy fun while looking good is where I think this bike sits. I know the price tag makes it a hard sell, but when considering the prices roadies spend I think that shows the target buyer.

[@soorplum1551]

£4500 for the frame,bonkers!

[@pukki34]

What... 150 dropper, needs 200+ to look cool

[@olik136]

I have never seen more than 150 (on prebuild bikes) a lot of size M bikes even come with 125 (which is why I bought my bike a bit too big for me....)

[@awfully.average]

for all yall complaining about the seat tube length , unno knows , OF COURSE THEY KNOW ... they just want to build the buying temperature for the next years model with the shorter seat tube , they will charge you more money for less material

[@kleenhall6885]

The bike industry loves to rely on the coil for tuning a shock the coil should only hold your weight up the shock valving should do the work of damping. That’s how shocks work. That’s how they were designed The industry revolves around digressive geometry and zero shock tuning. There no valving charts, there’s no talk of valving anywhere it’s quite the laugh that the industry builds poor geometry and rider complain about mid travel our bottom out support. That’s because the digression making it easier for your 180lbs to compress a 400lb coil. If you stand on a 400lb coil you can’t compress it at all. But put it on your bike and voila Your 180lbs can compress it to bind FYI coil rate times travel equals max load So 400lb coil at 3” is 1200 lbs to bind it How can a 180lb rider make 1200lbs ? Digression

[@justsayin3600]

The force of a falling object can be calculated by multiplying the mass by the height and acceleration due to gravity, then dividing by the impact distance. For example, a 180 lb person jumping up 1 meter high and falling back on the ground with natural velocity would exert 1200 pounds of force. The calculation is as follows: Energy input: Mass (81.65 kg) * height (1m) * gravity (9.8m/s^2) = 800 joules Impact force: 800 joules / distance (meters) = 5334 Newtons = 1200 pounds Even short falls can generate huge amounts of force. For example, a 200-pound person falling 5 feet is subject to 4,000 pounds of force on abrupt impact if my math is right. Calculating spring rates, is what the entire industry does. I'm sure if it was wrong ( most springs go in 50lb increments so not an exact number as far as the sping goes) Fox and RockShox would make the correction.

[@ROSE-by5su]

The Unno Ever is still Industrial Design PERFECTION 🤌

[@mikedamisch]

Agreed

[@GaedeRafael]

But rides horribly

[@ROSE-by5su]

@@mikedamisch Why? If you fine tune the suspension I will agree that it sucks but if you didn’t it’s a big no

[@darrinkulyk9560]

I Run 10 % on my DH Bike and 11 % on my Enduro 😎

[@chris8456]

This review was beyond over focused on that seat tube. If the top tube existed, it would’ve never come up. At 48 cm, on the S3, it’s right in there with all the big boys. You basically threw this company under the bus for no reason 🤦‍♂️

[@Nein_doch_oooh]

👍👍👍

[@nitbot]

Seems objectively horrible

[@kruschrhoades]

The rear end is So geometrically unsupported, it looks like it's gonna blow bearings often.

[@tbc_mtb]

Yeah nah, cant stand this thing.

[@erod6468]

Damn! That thing is UGLAY, but good to see more companies trying out different things. Some things will eventually stick as we move forward.

[@Malleluxusgirllarissa]

In Austria we have a word for this " Schirch!"

[@Nein_doch_oooh]

We also say: hoid die Goschn!

[@cheut]

wow that seat tube is awful. is it really that necessary to have the shock sit in the seat tube and ruin its insertion depth. Id rather my saddle further out of the way - the huck to flat showed that the seat could sit a couple inches lower without hitting the rear tire

[@ShitStefanShoots]

Looks like the typical woman's city bike.

[@jimbo4203]

That's what I thought a step through downhill bike ? 😅

[@chrisleech333]

Yet another bike that 24 months down the line parts won't exist

[@justgarethsphone9663]

weeeeird

[@jonathanhowson6420]

If you want to stand out, get an Atherton

[@stevesguitarschool3654]

that bike is a disaster

[@samuelwilliamson2116]

How

[@GaedeRafael]

Basically trying to reinvent the wheel to catch those rich-hipster riders

[@petedog9581]

The industry is officially into the expensive gimmick era again. The bike you have is good enough. Avoid FOMO and get fit. Your best travel is always with you... your arms and legs. I don't even listen to these dweebs any more.

[@Thesomersetgimp]

Totally agree mate. I’ve got more of an ever evolving collection of parts than bike. It’s a 2018 29r 160mm, with 12 speed and massive brakes, that’s everything I need. Until I snap it I have no reason to replace it. You can always get faster on what you have.

[@dadventuretv2538]

So true. They basically figured out mtbs and got them to where anybody can copy the formula and produce a decent one since about 2019. So now some brands have to revert to “look at how crazy and wonky our bike is” to distinguish them from all the rest. Or give us a bunch of sh!t nobody asked for- I’m looking at you autoshift and AB- that dumbs down and changes the essence of what mtbing is.

[@petedog9581]

@@Thesomersetgimp I'm on a 2013 Stumpjumper 29er still. It is getting more difficult to support the bike w parts, but w a few mods it is still really capable. Just put a new Pike 150 and Deluxe Ultimate on it, and the bike performs like new. I do a lot of slow tech and trials oriented riding. A long wheel base and super slack HTA is not ideal for me. 67 HTA and 74.5 STA is my sweet spot. Also, The bike is alloy and only 30 lbs. packed to ride.

[@debocariders]

dudes learn to ride a bike

[@cancer8343]

For the price garbage

[@IsfjordenBASE]

So it's expensive trash...

[@user-um4xz5do3j]

So the bike is pretty much useless haha

[@GrigoryRechistov]

So much carbon, so little sense.

[@mikegeddie2263]

Overpriced trash. Ya, I’m good with my spec duro. Still the king.

[@_mgiles]

None of the videos from what i seen, make it seem like that seats in the way at all. Im sure riding it is different.

[@zsanterre]

BUCKY AF

[@s4-mtb678]

Why even spend time reviewing a birth defect like this bike??