The TRUTH of Paddle VS Pedal Kayaks for fishing ! Part 2

[@YakMotley]

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[@puddintane966]

All about preference. I have a Slayer Propel 13 and love the idea of having my hands free! It costs more than regular paddle only yaks, but I wouldn’t trade if for the world! To each his own!

[@northwestyakker5330]

I have a cheap paddle kayak. Loved it! But I have got older, and my shoulders are not what they used to be. So I stepped up, and bought a pedal kayak. Can't wait to get it on the water come spring!

[@smokeydabeecharlescoleman8365]

I love the way you flash back to the actual instance you refer to. Best way to share imo.Ok, I'm in. Liked/subbed

[@ernies.260]

I want both, just checked CL and there's a Hobie Quest for $300 plus a hand job, seems like a good deal.

[@a1pestservice]

I agree, I had a hobie, but sold it due to heavy and expensive + parts, so bought cheap and light, and get some exercise

[@DeeFromBrooklyn]

This video heeled a lot. I like the paddle kayak for its mobility but the peddling feature is a god send in the wind

[@LovingIdaho]

I prefer a paddle kayak or one set up with trolling motor . I have a bad hip and my girl has a bad back . Her kayak is et up with a trolling motor and mine is a paddle kayak . Both are feelfree lures . We love them .

[@wascallywabbit8940]

"Something" vs. "Something else" is not a theory. But, this was a nice comparison. Thanks! ;-)

[@Pax3897]

When you sat cheap, what do you mean? Most of the pedal kayaks I looked at cost more than my car.

[@Crimsonhawke]

The yellow one he's in is the Hobie Quest. It's a paddle yak. That's the one he's saying is cheap.

[@jasonm1299]

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[@aaronanstett8987]

Pax3897 thats why you get a cheaper car

[@TuanLe-yq7vx]

I love my hobie outback but certainly not all of the time. Sometime u just want to grab the lightest kayak and go. Or you don’t have all day to pedal. You need to make a list of criteria. 1. Can u afford it? 2 Where/what do you fish? Etc...I would not want to lift it out of the water at the end of the day. So do you have good method of transporting your boat? A lot of time I think pedal kayaks are just hacks. They want to be like a motor boat. You just make sure you have time and energy to be the motor.

[@FED50H]

I have a Hobie outback pedal drive, a paddle board, and a "regular" sit on top yak. The Hobie is heavier by far, but can run the shallows as well...you just flutter the fins, or keep them flat and use the paddle. I do a lot of river fishing....being able to turn the nose up river and pedal allows me to hold stationary with a little pedaling while fishing a selected spot....that is hard to do with a paddle...get what you can afford and get on the water...

[@thesweetestjerk8905]

Yea but you cant reverse with the same fins so HA

[@frooglepete]

I don't know man. It's really each to their own. I have a Hobie Outback, just like you - had it a few years now. 6 months ago I bought a Jackson Cuda. The Outback is the boat the friends and visitors use now and nothing will get me out of the Cuda. I paid the premium for a Mirage drive based Kayak because I have arthritis and previous experience with a paddle kayak (Ocean Kayaks Prowler) just hurt too much over long distance. The Outback didn't give me that problem. But then I started to fish really skinny water and found the mirage drive to just simply be a massive, expensive, heavy, pain in the ass. Lots of people say "Flutter the drive", etc etc but the fact is if you're spending all day in water that regularly drops to just a few inches deep you that doesn't work too well. It's tiring, takes a lot of effort to work fluttering and doesnt move the boat too well. And, as you pointed out, the big fat mirage drive boats simply don't paddle well with a traditional paddle. The Cuda on the other hand (or any decent sized dedicated fishing kayak with a deep V nose and skeg) tracks phenomenally, is generally faster than the Hobie (because it cuts through water like a hot knife in butter and you can keep up the paddle pace easily for a long amount of time), has more storage, doesn't have nasty lumps of metal sticking out from the middle of the deck, has more accessible storage (huge center hatch) and to my great surprise absolutely doesn't cause me pain to paddle. I'm selling the Hobie real soon and sticking to paddle kayaks with great hull designs, rather than fat boats with a neat pedal system.

[@princefireside5344]

thanks for this video.. it has been rocking my brain to which one i should get...

[@icbaicba7765]

how are the pedal ones on people with back problems? My concern is lifting a heavy kayak but also torqueing pedaling as it seems you have to sit at a different angle to pedal than to paddle.

[@johnh.milleriii4386]

This is a great debate, however I think I found solution three. I bought a Nucanoe Frontier 12, which I usually paddle. Then I bought a Minn Kota Trolling motor for $95 and a Mighty Max batter for about $60. I can get about four hours of continuous run at low speed with the Mighty Max/Minn-Kota combination. By only using the motor from point to point and paddling around the fishing holes I can fish all day and still have battery power. I still get lots of exercise and don't worry so much about getting caught up in a stiff wind. Down side is having to register the Yak. At about $10 a year it ain't bad. FLCoyote

[@slingshoter8783]

I wonder if you can hook a solar panel up to it to charge the battery

[@MrBamery]

In CA/CO where I kayak fish you have to register the boat as soon as it is no longer self propelled (or even sail driven - hobie island adventure, etc). This eliminates a large amount of fishing locations (at least in CO) when you have a powered boat. Just food for thought. Registration is cheap though - $35/year in CO, and then you are also subject to inspections before launching your boat when it is registered.

[@Travisg5]

Use a drill with a pedal attachment and don’t have to register it that’s what I fo

[@eugenefisher2566]

I bought a Eddie liner ocean-going kayak 41 years ago. Used to go out in 30 mile an hour winds to play! Being able to maneuver with a paddle seems more likely!

[@danman7419]

Well chosen click bait pic. This guy is a pro.

[@MrRaynemaker]

Here's what may be the bottom line: There is NO perfect kayak. Some are better than others depending on what/how you are doing.

[@jacksonkhalil3743]

i realize Im pretty off topic but does anybody know a good site to watch newly released movies online?

[@kadenira5871]

@Jackson Khalil try flixzone. Just google for it :)

[@AdvKayaker]

Paddle or pedal. The absolute best one is the one that you like the best. Why the debate at all? It's all about personal preference.

[@seancarrigan3463]

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[@lancevoorhees1611]

I own three hobies, and I have fished with friends with paddles, and in some winds, the peddles win hands down, I owned two paddle kayaks, I sold them both! In shallows just feathering a partial stroke will out do any propeller system! Hobies are stable, fast, and bottom line I can out fish paddles most of the time!!

[@johnstrand2247]

My wife has a Malibu Stealth Paddle and I use a Native Propel Pedal. Yes we both catch fish but it is obvious that fishing is much easier with the Pedal craft. Most of the time my 85 pound Lab is on the back and it is sure easier pedaling her around than having to paddle all that extra weight around. The only time I would prefer to paddle is in heavy weeds. You can paddle the Native but it moves like a barge. Other than that, you can go a lot farther in a day pedaling.

[@paulkruse9004]

Why didn't you have a paddle as a back up with your pedal drive instead of beaching it?

[@mickcarson8504]

Honestly, you don't need to go miles just to fish. If things go wrong, e.g. a shark attack, how will you get help or back to shore?

[@etherbunny1089]

I did a lot of reading and YT reviews on paddle vs drive and had a chance to score a drive yak. I traded my buddy a nicely built AR15 for his 2009 hobie outback and I love this thing. The weight is a challenge but if you want a yak then you already know it's gonna be work to get it on the water. I've on taken it out on the flats here in ft Walton, fl and it's plenty enough to get around and hit those less touched spots.

[@aaronsmith2433]

Are there wider paddle kayaks?

[@skategreaser]

I go down to the Texas Gulf Coast as often as possible, but most of my fishing happens on rivers in Central TX. A pedal-drive kayak wouldn't make it a mile down the Colorado or Pedernales before the fins hit a shoal. I can take my OC Trident 11 or my Tarpon 110 into any kind of water, but a pedal drive needs some depth. They work great in lakes or BTB, but not so well on the flats or rivers. For the money, I'll keep paddling.

[@WHUFC71]

Most hobie kayaks I've seen are expensive! I wish I could buy a $2300 yak but not too many people can!!

[@Ocean.Joe1493]

Hey man, just wanted to ask if you have ever tried the Jackson Cruise 12 and if you’d recommend it for the coast as a fishing Kayak. Can’t afford the Hobie or higher end ones but there’s a pretty decent deal on the cruise 12 so I was thinking about it. I’m a 6’2” guy about about 200lbs so stability and all that stuff I was curious about. So just wanted to ask. Great videos and info in them! Tight lines brah 🤙🏽

[@averagesavage1313]

hey i dont know if you remember me but i hung out with you and sam at the lake down in lutz florida. just picked up some kayaks and been fishing. was wondering if you all plan on coming back down here.

[@billydev208]

I'm really wanting to get a kayak I can take to Florida or north Carolina ect. And go out and do some of this fishing. It looks like so much fun. Plus I love me some fish. I've been watching so many videos on this. Trying to figure out what kayak to get for myself.. I for sure want a pedal kayak. Just feel like I should go out with a guide because I've never even fished in the ocean before...

[@jackbauer8624]

Thanks for the video .. what do you think about the new 3 water kayak 12.5 f... are they stable ... is it a good buy ??

[@drackkor725]

I wish there was a video comparing a heavy kayak vs a light weight kayak. The obvious would be how easy it is to just go when you have a light weight model. But in water ability would be interesting. Right off you know the light weight model has huge advantage with paddle. I hope someone makes one light a Old Town Predator vs this model.

[@MrRubenAlonzo]

Can you do a video describing the differences between Pedal and Propeller drive kayaks please?

[@YakMotley]

Ive made quite a few. Check those out on the video list. Thanks for watching.

[@mysampson16]

good things to consider. been going back in forth.

[@jasonmoody2463]

Great vids my man! Thank you for all your work brother! Helped me decide between the two for my future purchase.

[@YakMotley]

Thanks Jason!

[@PeaceIsBetter]

I recently had to return a new Thule xsporter pro truck rack for my 2018 Tacoma double cab with a 5 foot bed. No one’s JRacks would fit it not even Thule’s newest. The xadapter11 did not work either on the new hulaport. I need to transport 2 fishing kayaks on my truck. Please tell me your favorite systems for this task so we can get our boats in the water. Thank you.

[@noahjohns7954]

Put them in the truck bed side by side, put a strap through the middle handles or across the middle/ back of the yaks and a strap to the front handle of each yak to the hooks in the truck bed. Or a bed extender, I found the first to work just fine in a Toyota Tundra with a 5.5’ bed and a tool box… so that should work for you

[@rayg3074]

a milk plastic container box would help you and attaches by bungee cords.. can park the box in front of kayak I do it and I have a sit on top.. and have Lowrance radar.. cool seeing fishing in lakes with radar.. targeting browns and rainbows.. Weekdays on small lakes 66 acre lake or 75 acre or 316 acres lakes so far.. .. Aloha

[@robbiejohnson3698]

What is opinion on trolling motor on SS127 bonafide is worth $1000 to $2000

[@scottflynn5644]

Good video, Jack!😁

[@mikestrong3910]

Surprised Hobie has such a non existent seat

[@pikestrikesweden]

Hi there my kayak fishing friend. Most of the things that you say in the vid is valid by my opinion, but it´s valid for your kind of fishing. I am fishing in the Swedish archipelago in vast stony and shallow areas. Propeller - or mirage systems would spoil many of the benefits compared of using a boat in my fishing areas. I just don´t want anything under my shallow going kayak... The pike is mostly my target fish and I so almost 90% of my fishing standing up. I even paddle standing up in my fishing area searching for fish before even trying to cast - sight fishing. When U perform fly fishing U don´t want anything to tangle U:r line (if U don´t use a line basket that is often in your way while fly fishing from a kayak). Than means that I strip my kayak from most things that can tangle my fly line. Sight fishing standing up is just impossible from a pedal drive. The pedals would always be in the way and be tangling my fly line. When using an intermediate line (or a sinking fly line), the line often tangles in things under the water line such as rudders etc. A propeller or mirage system would cause many and often dangerous situations as my line often will tangle on to such things. I fully understand though that propeller - or mirage propelled yaks have many advantages in other kind of fishing than I perform, such as open sea fishing. There you are right. If U are interested in vids from "my kind of yak fishing", then go to my KZbin channel pikestrikesweden. Cheers my friend!

[@pikestrikesweden]

I must add that I have my own fishing camp and ten boats of different sizes used by me and my guests. So, if I need to "go fast" or fishing outside the sheltered islands on open sea, I preferable use a boat. The fishing there is not so interesting as in your waters though...What I would like to say is that I was searching for a platform in our shallow brackish areas that was much more effective than a boat. I found one eight years ago in a simple (paddle) kayak. From that I was convinced and I use my kayaks (Jackson Kayaks) usually instead of a boat. It´s not always about cost, A paddling kayak might be better than one with a propeller/mirage system just based on effectiveness. As I have stated in my first text, a paddling kayak is better for me and my fishing. There are not right or wrong. We just need different things due to our personal kind of fishing...

[@McScott76]

With all due respect, I feel that most pedal kayak owners spend the majority of their time trying to convince the rest of us that they weren't stupid for spending 10X more for a boat that does essentially the same thing that ours does with a slightly greater level of convenience being the only real benefit. Seriously, I have an 11-foot angler kayak that I bought for $350 brand new and can catch the exact same fish as the guy in the $3,500 Hobie. So, forgive me if I'm not all that interested in paying an extra $3,150 so I don't have to move my arms. It's about like arguing the merits of a Ferrari over a Hyundai. And while I'm on my soapbox, I also catch just as many fish on my $80 rod/reel combo as those guys catch on their $400 St. Croix outfits. Just sayin'... fishing is fishing. To each their own.

[@AnthonyMaske]

I agree ... I'm new to this kayaking thing here ... I bought a cheapo inflatable just to get the sense of paddling, which IMHO, isn't bad especially once you get the momentum going ... so now I'm figuring a good paddle kayak for $400-$800 range, I can then put what ever toys and gizmos on it and still be well under the cost of a descent pedal kayak with out all the bells and whistles ...

[@jamiebell1690]

McScott76 I'm a pedal Kayak owner and I've never wasted a minute trying to convince anyone what I payed was worth it or not. I have spent more time explaining to curious individuals what the watercraft I am fishing in is and where they can buy one. I've let a few people try mine out to see what it is like and some have purchased pedal kayaks of their own as a result. My 1st 16' Hobie mirage drive kayak cost $1200.00 My 2nd Hobie mirage drive kayak cost $1200.00 All a person has to do is go fishing on a river with somewhat of a current to experience what a pain it is to have to paddle, sit the rod down, paddle, pick the rod back up over and over. With my Hobie the only time I touch the paddle is when I push off from shore, or come back into shore. It's wonderful in my opinion not having to touch the paddle or drop the rod for hours! My 1st kayak was a paddle Kayak I used for about 1yr. That was about 7-8yrs ago and I haven't used it since. So to each their own.

[@MrBamery]

You were lucky then.... I looked for two+ years on CL and never saw a mirage drive kayak for less than $2000.

[@justwoodonwheels]

Have fun trolling long distance with a paddle. Especially with a downrigger. I got my 2015 Revo for $1700

[@jamie00091]

McScott76 what do you mean? Ive owned a paddle kayak for the last 4 years and regularly fish with a friend with a hobie outback. The ease in which he gets around the water. Holds position when casting lures at structure and comfort he has with the vantage seat i had to buy one. He would cover so much water whilst I would stuff round getting into position making casts and holding spots it is a waste of time in a paddle. Bait fishing would be fine but if you want to cast lures all day and not be fucked from hours of paddling dont be a tight ass and buy a peddle kayak.

[@outdooradventureswithjason6275]

Good information. I've got a pescador pro120 and enjoy it, but thinking of getting a pedal drive system, and just using the 120 for fresh water. This video helps with my decision

[@bowhuntr1959]

Just got the pilot petal drive my first petal like it so far just lake fish with it

[@slingshoter8783]

put a troll motor on it seems cheaper and better to me

[@MidniteClubII]

Hey jack, have you done any Yak fishing in SO Cal? if you have where abouts? Thanks for all the tips. Great Stuff!.

[@SolorideryR6CX650C]

I got a question a person who has never done this how can they get started? Is there a place where there is a group doing this in order to teach?

[@CrotchRocketeer]

I'm sure there are some classes you can take somewhere, should start in fresh water first also before going in the ocean

[@mikel9567]

I live in WA State on Puget Sound. I think our rocky beaches would eat up the pedal kayak's. I've watched video's of them and they seem cool but just don't seem all that practical. I think for the amount of money that something like an Outback costs, I would rather invest in a day sailer or small boat.

[@rhenley78]

I am greatly appreciative of the review. I was wondering if you ever fish in the sound or back bay? I live in Gulf Breeze and fish there often. Like all the work you do, I am a Navy vet and former contractor and appreciate your dedication.

[@StanleyOrchard]

Great video man, very informative. I'm considering investing in a kayak in order to 'up the ante' for the fishing videos on my channel, and I will be utilizing your advice when I go to purchase. Thank you for the insight and keep up the great work!

[@slowboat6021]

some good points there thanks Yak.

[@Liamo2424]

New to kayak fishing. I have an Old Town Otter from when i was a teenager that i've paddled like 100 or so miles this summer. I've been outfitting it lately (rod holders, anchor trolley, cargo bungees). Think i should keep with it while its working, or move on up? Im a student with like no money, and i fish reservoirs and Lake Erie...

[@Liamo2424]

any and all recommendations are welcome!

[@adventureswithfrodo2721]

Caught kings while in Pensacola. Never had a boat though. Thanks

[@yakmor938]

Like your show, good review, thanks for the tips.

[@kieronbevan2949]

Where do l find a kayak that will take the weight of a 22 stone man. The first one I bought spent alot if time below it's safe draught. It was 12'6 but way too small. I need plenty of stability

[@wkillam]

Kieron Bevan Hobie 17t

[@maaifoediedelarey4335]

Can't you add rod holders to this kayak up front ?

[@jamesanderson7261]

Number 1 thing that you take with you, that you would never leave without?

[@reapergrim76]

Great video.

[@YakMotley]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Selkian]

Leg muscles are bigger and burn out the body much faster. We did a charity paddle of 70 miles. 4 paddling and 1 peddling a Hobbie. He could only keep up peddling at our speed for an hour at a time and had to alternate 1-hour peddling, 1-hour paddling. A point to note is that he was younger and fitter than us as he trained like a demon for a year before the event. Our pace was dictated by the speed he could maintain. His paddling sections for such a big yak were painfully slow.

[@puddintane966]

Ian Smith love my Slayer because I can paddle peddle! Legs get tired, go with arms and vice versa.

[@Cevan42]

This makes no sense. I've pedaled my bike for 9 1/2 hours at one time. Could never paddle for even half that time with all the training g in the world.

[@JoobyFoo]

It doesn't work like that...

[@peterjohnhunt4328]

what do you think about corbra dive fish kayak ?

[@MArana-ir4xf]

Thank you for your videos Very helpful.

[@YakMotley]

Thanks for watching !

[@TRu44-560]

Thanks for sharing this video, New sub.

[@PapaDuke_1]

I'm a new and.. well I'm new. I've always used a canoe. Based on what I've heard I thing I'm just gonna look for a bigger paddle yak. But if I wasn't fishing.. that would be so nice. Till you said things breaks. I get that, always a factor. Great vid keep an comimg

[@robertneville2148]

great clip...thank buddy

[@dogpaws9980]

Great info

[@stevetautog880]

I love that spear , can you tell me about it where it can be purchased thank you jeff

[@mowtivated7032]

Great vid But I wanted to see them race ?

[@kerrypitt9789]

How are pedal Kayaks in strong tidal water?

[@RoxnDox]

Kerry Pitt I run a Native Propel 13 in Puget Sound, Tacoma Narrows area. I have not had any problems with handling tides. It's easier than paddling my other boat, an Elie Gulf 120XL. Leg muscles are way stronger than arm.

[@killfistr]

Dude! Pensacola Snorkeling Reefs!!! I go here all the time!

[@javenbarber311]

Thanks for this video!

[@YakMotley]

Thanks for watching

[@WilliamWCook-jg8sf]

Hey how do you "drop a Duce" when your out there so far..?

[@laklo1994]

William W. Cook jump over board, drop your draws, release depth charges. No joke

[@JorgePerez-yt9ou]

andrew bullard that’s a good one! I’ll be laughing my ass of at this when I do! Hahaha

[@miamiwax5504]

God bless anybody who has wiped their ass with seaweed

[@phillipjacobson4498]

Hope he don't lick his fingers

[@JoobyFoo]

@@laklo1994 Till it floats up your shirt.

[@southwestcatfishingarizona8264]

Great Video very helpful

[@42Prepper]

Great info! Thank you for the awesome videos. Any thoughts on the Perception kayak peddle drive system?

[@erickgodina6547]

But if you had to pick one

[@zrulz]

Those thin foam seats stink! They make my back hurt.

[@richyoung4051]

i agree. im looking to upgrade my yak to a stadium seat style. im only 26 and my shit hurts after a bit in my foam seat lmao

[@THEFALCON58]

I use a kayak sail 42 inches (round type) if the wing is going the right direction from Australia

[@MHoodFishing]

Good and helpful.

[@leoallen677]

what about using pontoons for stability ?

[@slingshoter8783]

I have seen people showing how to make them on here. With pvc and floats on each side. Getting the angle just right would be the hard part. You would need to make one so you could adjust the floats higher or lower. Because when its rough they would drag in the waves when low.

[@theonlyoned6409]

Do you ever fish the Garcon Bridge?

[@YakMotley]

+Chad D76 no never tried it

[@edwardnavarette499]

Wow ganda ng kayak pwede bang turaan mo ako mag kayak

[@PhantomFishing]

Great Stuff

[@shanemartinson5006]

great video

[@appslg3phone]

Bogus thumbnail does not appear anywhere in the video?

[@markroper9269]

Nice video!

[@brokeandbored85]

Does anyone have a view on the perception 9.5 Abaco kaysk

[@Jqbigrig]

great video :-)

[@FishingAdventuresDubai]

Subbed bro

[@YakMotley]

thanks!

[@lachlanoneil8938]

Why don't you just get a boat.

[@YakMotley]

Because thats not as adventurous! lol jk!

[@chadcoulter4191]

Just commenting to be commenting lol.

[@Pwrcritter]

I clicked for the girl, lol.

[@nole8923]

Click bait with the chic. Lame

[@S.Womack346]

Kayaks are a waist of money. Buy pontoon boats. 1000 times better.

[@MrBamery]

Yeah and 1000x more expensive overall- maintenance, registration, towing, abuse on your vehicle..... Why don't I just buy a 26ft boston whaler- Pontoon Boats are a waste of money.

[@ThinkFreely2012]

yo