Yamaha LL-16 VS Martin D-28

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@peterdeboer9620
@peterdeboer9620 4 жыл бұрын
Years ago I owned a D-28 and then foolishly sold it. A few years ago I bought a Yamaha LL-16 ARE, and when I first played it, it reminded me a lot of the D-28. It's not exactly the same, but the spruce/rosewood combination does have it's own sound. The build quality of the Yamaha is remarkable, too.
@Steven-Duffy
@Steven-Duffy 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Ll16 Dare. Best guitar in in that price point until you spend double 👌
@soofitnsexy
@soofitnsexy 3 жыл бұрын
@@Steven-Duffy yes ...I agree when you really spend to a standard series martin you realize the martin is better fuller richer ! but you have to spend
@georgemercer3013
@georgemercer3013 3 жыл бұрын
Got that right
@ariffzainal2602
@ariffzainal2602 3 жыл бұрын
I've owned my D-28 for over 20 plus years now and from this video, personally I prefer the sound projection of the LL-16. I probably won't trade in my D-28 for the LL-16 though but I'm super interested in the LJ-16 and LS-16 now. Yamaha makes excellent acoustic guitars. Period.
@piotrkanarek
@piotrkanarek Жыл бұрын
LS-16 is phenomenal. I've got it, along with MARTIN D18, Gibson J-45 Rosewood Custom Shop, Larrivee, Furch, son I have some good guitars to compare it. Again: it's sleeping giant.
@beasheerhan4482
@beasheerhan4482 4 жыл бұрын
I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings, but, I much preferred the Yamaha. It had all the depth that the Martin had, plus a whole hell of a lot of top end and clarity that the Martin did not have.
@soofitnsexy
@soofitnsexy 4 жыл бұрын
grear guitar but lacked the depth...I love my yamahas...that 28 was so full and beautiful!
@ernsl9535
@ernsl9535 4 жыл бұрын
After two years of edging, my Yamaha LL16 sounds even warmer with better resonance, and it still maintains its punchiness and clarity. So good.
@mollers92
@mollers92 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the concert body I guess
@shakeyjonez
@shakeyjonez 2 жыл бұрын
Sounded like the Martin had older strings to me.
@EmptyMirrorMindful
@EmptyMirrorMindful 2 жыл бұрын
Doesnt hurt anyones feelings. Everyone has a right to appreciate a certain type of sound. I agree the sound on yamaha is better balanced across all strings. It had a clearer midrange I think.
@Bushradical
@Bushradical Жыл бұрын
It looks like the Yamaha is still wearing the coated 80/20 strings it comes with. They are bright and punchy on a bright/punchy guitar. I think if they both had PB strings they would be a bit closer in tone. I went to buy a D28 2 months ago and bought an LL16 instead. They were both right there in the store to A/B and the Yamaha had so much more punch and volume, and the bass is clearer. The Martin was good guitar but the price was so far off between the two. If they were both $900 I would buy the Yamaha every time.....if they were both $3200 I would buy the D 28 , but only to protect my resale value.
@blekfut5763
@blekfut5763 Жыл бұрын
You're 100% right. Phosphor bronze strings are MANDATORY on Yamaha LL-16.
@briant3404
@briant3404 Жыл бұрын
yamaha L series with dead strings is amazing...
@cugir321
@cugir321 10 ай бұрын
If you plug it into an amp use a 10 band EQ....you need to reduce the 16K band to get rid of the icey sound. Temu has a cheap 10 band EQ that works great. You just need the line level battery and 16K...it has both.
@BillyMoonMan
@BillyMoonMan 8 ай бұрын
Stay radical!
@C2freaky
@C2freaky 5 ай бұрын
Amazing point made!
@HubraumTV
@HubraumTV Ай бұрын
I drove 1 hour to a tiny village to buy a Yamaha LL 16 for only 450€. Now I have a Guild OM-140 and the amazing LL16, two all solid-guitars that you can keep all your life because it doesn't get much better.
@robarnold6998
@robarnold6998 Жыл бұрын
My new LL16 just arrived today. First guitar I’ve purchased in nearly thirty years. It’s plays so easily and sounds pristine. So excited to get to know this new friend for life.
@bandicoot5412
@bandicoot5412 4 жыл бұрын
The Yamaha is more forward, the D-28 is warm, both are excellent instruments, the player compliments them both.
@jlunch
@jlunch 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Yamaha voices their guitars. For this style of music, it’s well balanced. The guitar sounds brand new and bright but that of course will develop nicely with time. The Martin sounds like it’s enjoyed more play and is getting into its adult voice. It’s also getting into a completely different price point. Nice playing
@phanhuyuc5839
@phanhuyuc5839 3 жыл бұрын
Well hard to play well if you have to sell one kidney to buy a D-28 so I go with Yamaha for this one
@swacoustic
@swacoustic Жыл бұрын
I bought an llx 16 from a local guitar shop when I was 17 from the local guitar shop. I couldn't afford it but the owner listened to me play it and offered it to me for half then and half a month later. I took it home and have never regretted it, I will never sell it.
@yannlaliberte8407
@yannlaliberte8407 3 жыл бұрын
for me Yamaha, but nothing wrong with Martin as well, both are GREAT.
@riverwalker2173
@riverwalker2173 2 ай бұрын
The Martin sounded richer & deeper to my ear, but for around a grand, the LL16 sounds just fine. Both stellar axes.
@tonybrook7768
@tonybrook7768 4 жыл бұрын
The precision and playability of Yamaha guitars is consistently superb. They should never be overlooked, and this particular model has a beautiful voice. This is taking nothing away from the Martin, but unless you are wealthy, or a professional musician, the price may not be justifiable.
@turrafirmaguitarchannel
@turrafirmaguitarchannel Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Here in Australia the Martin is 4x more.
@meetwes
@meetwes Жыл бұрын
Beautiful rendition of 'Because He Lives' ❤
@titusalabat5173
@titusalabat5173 Жыл бұрын
@@truthof7382 It's definitely 'Because He Lives'
@mwilson70201
@mwilson70201 3 жыл бұрын
Great arrangement of Because He Lives.
@kevincrouch3956
@kevincrouch3956 3 жыл бұрын
And if you compare the comparatively priced Yamaha LL 26 against the D-28 it will sound even better. The high end Yamaha's are exceptional guitars.
@jonpiercy9457
@jonpiercy9457 3 ай бұрын
I've owned a Yamaha L16 for 16 years which I bought new for just over £400. It's a fantastic, sweet guitar, very balanced. The build is extremely high too, definitely a keeper.
@visitur4914
@visitur4914 4 жыл бұрын
Because He Lives sounds cool with a little swing! Love both guitars.
@fourocker
@fourocker Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to own a D18 or D28 but I know I'll never feel comfortable dropping that kind of cash, the LL Yamaha is so well made and beautiful sounding I'd be very very happy with that, keep and play for a lifetime and it would be even better.
@VictorEkholm
@VictorEkholm Жыл бұрын
If you want the sound of e D18 then just buy a Yamaha FG3. 3000 dollar plus sound.
@appl2597
@appl2597 4 жыл бұрын
Listening through headphones. I prefer the Yamaha, sounds clearer.... Martin sounds a bit muffled by comparison. It's ridiculous that the Martin cost 3 times more. You paying over the top for the brand only.
@lorenzoparedes2306
@lorenzoparedes2306 4 жыл бұрын
@SeriusNtentions I do have one of the L models, though it's not a 16. I think it's either a 6 or a 7. I'd love to get my hands on the model that Paul Simon played In the 80s, was it?
@lorenzoparedes2306
@lorenzoparedes2306 4 жыл бұрын
@SeriusNtentions I don't think Paul Simon's model was a production version. It might have been one that was made especially for him. I do recall seeing something like it for sale on eBay by a Japan based seller. Of course, the price was in the thousands of dollars, plus the shipping would have been another $200 or so. That aside, I have been able to get two or three used guitars from Japanese sellers, one a steel string Morris, and one a Yamaha classical, a GA-80, which was about $100.00, including shipping and a zippered vinyl case. I still can't believe it was also shipped by air, and I received it in less than two weeks.
@beasheerhan4482
@beasheerhan4482 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly the way I heard it, Dear Appel!
@postiticeland8783
@postiticeland8783 4 жыл бұрын
WOW wtf man! I was planning on buying a D-35 but after this i am seriously thinking about a Yamaha. Lol
@woodwindrain5020
@woodwindrain5020 4 жыл бұрын
I've been a Martin guy for years since 1974, but now have other guitars as well like Larrivees, Taylor, Takamines, and now yes,, Yamahas! I just discovered them and it's really an exceptional company. It sounds unlike any other guitar I played. It's a unique sound, very precise & articulate with great sustain through the highs, mids and even bass. And the price you pay is ridiculously low! No wonder they're always sold out & needs to be back ordered. The big three: Martin, Taylor and now Yamaha's,.no question!
@startreker8591
@startreker8591 2 жыл бұрын
Because He lives I can face Tomorrow…! My fave to sing since I was young til now that I’m aged…still plays piano y big Dreadnaught
@yubochin530
@yubochin530 Ай бұрын
どっちがいいではなくどっちもいい😊D28はずっと愛器として使っているが弾き始めると止められなくなる高音低音のバランスが絶妙。LL16はこの動画を見て気に入ってしまった。中音域の伸びが素晴らしい。ここに絶妙なバランスで低音が載ってくる。この価格でこの音はある意味反則である。D28は30年間使い続けて育てあげた。LL16はARE処理されているが還暦プレイヤーに残された時間は30年は無いので20年でどこまで音が熟成されるか楽しみである。どちらも素晴らしいギターです。いい演奏をいつもありがとうございます😊
@Denon395
@Denon395 3 жыл бұрын
This Yamaha is simply phenomenal.
@larrykenney7091
@larrykenney7091 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Yamaha better.
@e4tm333
@e4tm333 2 жыл бұрын
Picked up one of these Yamahas for £400 which already had a tusq nut and saddle fitted, I’m blown away by the quality and sound, it compares to my Martin D28, It’s an amazing guitar.
@ПавлоВенгерко
@ПавлоВенгерко 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, please tell me how you like the Yamaha LL16 guitar, how it sounds through the pickup, are there any problems with the tuning with equalization or is there a background from the pickup ?
@e4tm333
@e4tm333 2 жыл бұрын
@@ПавлоВенгерко I’ve never used the pickup, only played it acoustically,
@markstacey2906
@markstacey2906 3 жыл бұрын
A great comparison as I'm looking to upgrade to my next guitar... Now I know it's going to be a ll16.... Many thanks and fabulous playing...
@GarryWan666
@GarryWan666 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is a stupid statement...But the Martin sounds very martin. The LL16 is so much richer and fuller, besides slightly brighter.(Those Elixir are extremely bright compares to my preferred PB 12-53) I have tried different acoustics from different brands. Gibson, Taylor, Martin, Furch, Takamine, Cort, Fender. But the Yamaha L series is one of the best line I have ever experienced. After trying different guitars, I went for the LL16ARE. Both the quality and tone is at the same level as the Gibson J-200. (They sound different but the tonal quality is the same). The minimalistic design on the LL16 is the main reason why it became my most beloved acoustic, a piezo pickup under the saddle without any preamp at the side of the guitar, and i never have to worry about it running out of battery since the pickup does not require a battery. I have even played live with the guitar and it sounded awesome through the PA, it even captures the dynamic (percussion) from the body. With other words, I have found the love of my life. Additionally, I am an electric player too, currently owning 4 electric guitars all are Gibsons, I have to worry and be really careful due the the nitro lacquer could react with anything. But the poly finish on the LL16 cures my perfectionism.
@wmsoundpresents
@wmsoundpresents 4 жыл бұрын
That's a very good opinion. Telling us about what you have experienced is very empathetic. Thank you very much.
@ПавлоВенгерко
@ПавлоВенгерко 2 жыл бұрын
which pickup works best at a concert and recording sound , passive for LL16 or active for LL-TA ?.
@johnhassall1782
@johnhassall1782 3 жыл бұрын
As the very proud owner of a yamaha dw5s and unable to afford a Martin,, the yams the one for me,, although I bloody love Martins,,, as someone once said,, "if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with" 👍
@sunwalker2599
@sunwalker2599 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised that u have a dw5. I bought a dw6 and it sounds great. I don't know too much about it cuz internet didn't give me some info. Could you tell me please a lil bit about them and do you know how many ages have our guitars? Thank you
@johnhassall1782
@johnhassall1782 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunwalker2599 hi, the dw5s was made in the mid 90s I believe,, mine is in real good condition, and sounds awesome too,, Tom petty owned one by all accounts!
@sunwalker2599
@sunwalker2599 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnhassall1782 thank you so much for answering. One more thing, do you think that fg850 is good for an upgrade? Or you think there isn't a big difference?
@pete377
@pete377 3 ай бұрын
I've played them both, and I bought the yamaha ll-16 on a whim. It is an amazing guitar!! It plays and sounds excellent.
@포항양덕81
@포항양덕81 6 күн бұрын
ll16 의 맑은 소리가 저는 마음에 들어서 잘 사용하고 있네요~!
@mitchellpaxtonward7124
@mitchellpaxtonward7124 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. For me the Martin has more definition of tone: warm lovely bass and mids and inoffensive treble, a blend of volume and character achieved by a balance of these elements - signature Martin sound. The Yamaha seems a bit overridden with treble and percussiveness - I’m hearing the bound fretboard talking mostly? I’d LOVE to play Freight Train on the Martin.
@AdrianWhyte
@AdrianWhyte Жыл бұрын
Oh man I love that solo arrangement tune - wow!!
@turrafirmaguitarchannel
@turrafirmaguitarchannel 3 ай бұрын
Great comparison and great playing thankyou! The Yamaha sounds more lively, the Martin tighter, but it would open up over the years. I wish the LL had a sitka topped option. I own the LL16. It not only sounds good, it has a lovely stable neck and very playable. The Martin is very expensive here in Australia, 4 x the price of the Yammie.
@752brickie
@752brickie 3 жыл бұрын
Love your version of Because He Still Lives !!!
@nzmal
@nzmal Жыл бұрын
Got a Yammy, it sounds great and records beautifully, used to have a D28 but it was stolen years ago unfortunately- I have access to several and have great custom hand built acoustic also, and the LL-16 is right up there…
@Holytonex
@Holytonex 4 жыл бұрын
因他活着,Amen! Great Playing, priasing to Him.
@scottperry8162
@scottperry8162 4 жыл бұрын
I loved them both !! Loved the playing
@EdLo.
@EdLo. 7 ай бұрын
I have an LL16 and love it, but you can't deny the Martin in this video has more going on in it's tonality and warmth.
@richardshank7659
@richardshank7659 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly don’t believe there is a winner here. Both are great and hold their own. My preference is to the Martin but I agree with others the Yamaha is more articulate but I prefer the warmth of the Martin.
@laurencebaxter3212
@laurencebaxter3212 4 жыл бұрын
Love my Yamaha LL16 ARE. Mine is the brown sunburst finish and the build quality for the price is fantastic. I’m not saying it’s better but it certainly gives 2-3k guitars I’ve played a serious run for the money - balanced, enough low end and clear trebles, versatile for finger picking or strumming. I play more electric guitar so for my purposes I’m more than happy with it.
@ПавлоВенгерко
@ПавлоВенгерко 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, please tell me how you like the Yamaha LL16 guitar, how it sounds through the pickup, are there any problems with the tuning with equalization or is there a background from the pickup ?
@dalesearcy5734
@dalesearcy5734 4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at how well the Yamaha held it's own against the Martin. The Martin has great single note separation but the Yamaha was as good if not a bit better. At way less than half the price, the Yamaha is a winner all day long.
@hyuk314
@hyuk314 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! Thanks for great video. It seems Yamaha LL 16 ARE has more potentials than Martin just in my opinion. I also own LL16 ARE, then I replaced bridge pins into buffalo, and took undersaddle pick-up away. The sound become softer and richer like this D-28! Now I'm planning to replace nut & saddle both into bone and I can't stop playing my Yamaha!
@thomasbaker1239
@thomasbaker1239 3 жыл бұрын
I also removed the pickup but replaced the nut and bridge with tusq on my ll16. Made a big difference: much more lush and full sound.
@martifingers
@martifingers 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a LL16. That's interesting - I was hoping maybe just a change of strings might do it?
@ПавлоВенгерко
@ПавлоВенгерко 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, please tell me how you like the Yamaha LL16 guitar, how it sounds through the pickup, are there any problems with the tuning with equalization or is there a background from the pickup ?
@ПавлоВенгерко
@ПавлоВенгерко 2 жыл бұрын
@@martifingers Hi, please tell me how you like the Yamaha LL16 guitar, how it sounds through the pickup, are there any problems with the tuning with equalization or is there a background from the pickup ?
@ПавлоВенгерко
@ПавлоВенгерко 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasbaker1239 Hi, please tell me how you like the Yamaha LL16 guitar, how it sounds through the pickup, are there any problems with the tuning with equalization or is there a background from the pickup ?
@haldumille5594
@haldumille5594 4 жыл бұрын
I listened without looking at the guitar being played, and chose the Yamaha every time. I own both brands. Like them both, but always buy used Martins and beat the seller down until I can afford the guitar... lol Except for custom shop Yamaha guitars don't hold their value very well, which is great if you're a buyer and sucks if you're a seller... They are a great bargain and wonderfully well built and sounding instruments.
@christiankabengele9181
@christiankabengele9181 4 жыл бұрын
They both sound amazing. The Yamaha is clearly a better value, considering it costs less than half the Martin‘s price. However, to me the Yamaha has a slight punch and high to mid sparkle (I don’t know how else to describe it) that feels tiring to me. The Martin is more balanced and softer.
@HasNiHassaan
@HasNiHassaan 3 жыл бұрын
can easily be fixed with a bone saddle and some different strings
@rickdiamond6
@rickdiamond6 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree. The Yamaha has a high to mid "sparkle" that sounds a bit distorted when strummed. A better comparison would've been with an LL26, which is made by Yamaha's master luthier. It's also dressed out more like the D-28 and it costs about the same as the D-28.
@leerothman7570
@leerothman7570 2 жыл бұрын
Upon purchase the store I got my LL-TA from changed out the saddle and pins for bone. It is a pure canon and blows away any of the 12 top Martins I had before. The mids have tons of punch as does the bottom but not woofy like Martins, clear with definition. The highs have output that is clear and sweet not wimpy like the Martins I had. Sorry the Yamaha rocks
@questioneverything3332
@questioneverything3332 2 жыл бұрын
Killer yamaha....the martin is okay too...
@BobHUK
@BobHUK Жыл бұрын
I've got an LL16 that I bought second hand for £300 (which is just about half price in comparison with a new one). I've had it for about 10 years or so. I use D'Addario LZ910 strings on it, and I changed the string pins out for bone ones. Other than that it's totally standard. Over the years it's matured into a beautifully mellow guitar that still has the punch and volume when I want it, but more importantly for me, it has a really well balanced and subtle tone that starts from the bottom E and goes right up to the highest note I can play on it. I think it could probably do with a professional makeover at sometime, to try and reduce the string height a little, but other than that I can't fault it. With regard to the comparison in the video, I was intrigued to hear what the differences were. I found the LL16 to have more treble than the Martin, and it sounded a little cleaner. However, the tone of the Martin was more mellow in the middle than the LL16 in the video. In that respect it was closer to my own LL16 than the one in the video was. So I suspect that if the Yam in the video was brand new, then over time it will mellow somewhat, and give that wonderful umami type sound that I get out of mine. 👍😊
@barbosanoticias1287
@barbosanoticias1287 6 ай бұрын
Som lindo com esse louvor ficou perfeito
@Hjaltland2
@Hjaltland2 3 жыл бұрын
Both sound great.. I'll have the Yanaha though based on sound and cost
@eversomborges600
@eversomborges600 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful guitars, beautiful sounds, beautiful song. 👏👏👏😍😍😍
@miketerechenok6212
@miketerechenok6212 Жыл бұрын
The song is called, "because he lives". Gospel Music my friend.
@MitchWild-kx1tx
@MitchWild-kx1tx 26 күн бұрын
I own two of these. One LL16 and an LL16M. I've owned a Martin D-18 that blew me away with the tone, and I sold it! I think I must be a Mahogany guy because I play the LL16M a little more often.
@woodwindrain5020
@woodwindrain5020 4 жыл бұрын
A better comparison as to price point, dreadnaught body style, would be the LL36 and the Martin Hd_28. They are both priced a'rd 3k. The Hd- 28 is a beast, but the Yamaha is right there, with a lot of beautiful abalone inlays & purflings a'rd the body. It's just beautiful! The Martin has a nice herringbone inlay a'rd the body which is common these days. They are both great sounding instruments, but the Yamaha surprised me. It's very articulate, loud, bassey, and beautiful as well.
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 4 жыл бұрын
i think the red label fg5 is a closer match in looks and tone to the hd28.
@bjornegan6421
@bjornegan6421 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thanks for these videos. They are very well done, excellent sound, excellent playing, and very well thought out. I'm even more pleased to hear Christian music.
@miketerechenok6212
@miketerechenok6212 Жыл бұрын
Because he lives....
@piotrkanarek
@piotrkanarek 2 жыл бұрын
I have bought Yamaha LL16 and was happy untill I bought two Furch guitars (Yellow dreadnought and Green Grand Auditorium with cutaway). Belive me, comparedu to my Furch guitars my Yamaha appears quite thin, but I still like it, considering that the price was 50% less than Furch which is still 40% less than Martin or Taylor. Clarity, depth, balance and workmanship is unbeliveable in Furch.
@ПавлоВенгерко
@ПавлоВенгерко 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, please tell me how you like the Yamaha LL16 guitar, how it sounds through the pickup, are there any problems with the tuning with equalization or is there a background from the pickup ?
@piotrkanarek
@piotrkanarek 2 жыл бұрын
@@ПавлоВенгерко Hi Pavlo. OK. I've been using both Yamaha and Furchs enough time to give you my feedback. I like Yamaha LL16. It was new and It's opening step by step as I play it. It's sound is very open, on bright side, but still solid. Compared to my Furch's (Green with cutaway and Yellow Dreadnought) it lacks some (little) depth and warmth, but still it's great. It's crisp and the playability is very good. It's a joy to play. For the price you pay you got a fantastic guitar. I also have an LS16 which is phenomenal guitar since the point of view of longer sessions playing. The neck, size ecc make me want to play it, even thouhg it doesnt sound so deep as my other guitars. Looking like million dollars (red sunburst) and plays like an electric guitar. The pickup in LL16... basic and irrelevant for me as my Furch Green and Yamaha LS16 both have LR Baggs Anthem build in, so I don't care about pickup in LL16, but I tried it and was OK. Anyway, to get a good sound you will need an external preamp.
@ПавлоВенгерко
@ПавлоВенгерко 2 жыл бұрын
@@piotrkanarekl thank I bought a yamaha fgx 830 c there is an active pickup system 66 equalizer, it's convenient for me, but I have a few more days to exchange the price is a little less than LL 16 ,, I want to record at home in the sound card line, so I wonder if the recorder will be better orat least it also works well as system66 on the 830
@ljsyyong
@ljsyyong 4 жыл бұрын
Because He lives!
@lIlIIIIIll
@lIlIIIIIll 4 жыл бұрын
the supernatural The name of the song He plays from 0:25
@soofitnsexy
@soofitnsexy 4 жыл бұрын
@@lIlIIIIIll is it from a horror movie?? he lives???
@senti7965
@senti7965 12 күн бұрын
JESUS OUR SAVIOR! ❤️💚💛🕊️🕊️🕊️
@winde333
@winde333 3 жыл бұрын
Have to say they both sound really good. To me the Yamaha sounds a bit more scooped, tight and dry while the Martin has more harmonics and a richer midrange. For sitting in a mix the Yamaha would be killer but given the space, the Martin has a bit more character and life to it in my opinion. Great comparison video, I would have reached for the Martin though most people here seems to go the opposite direction but I guess that's what's great about music and sound. :) Free tip: I ended up buying a Kremona R35 based on it's sound, instead of a Martin and that guitar is about half the price. It is tight, has a lot of harmonics and is really well built in my opinion. So if you are looking for a really good, bang for the buck, hand built guitar check out the Kremona R30 and R35.
@wmsoundpresents
@wmsoundpresents 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I will find the Kremona guitar information.
@phoenixsound
@phoenixsound Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting how differently people hear things. I have owned a D28 and currently own an LL16 and HD35. Martins and Yamahas are totally different guitars. The Yamaha has a very flat sound profile with plenty of harmonics and rich midrange. On the other hand a D28 is softer and most definitely scooped. For fingerstyle the Yamaha would blow the Martin away, that’s why I own both the LL16 and LS16. The Martin on the other hand has that classic American sound and can’t be beaten when it comes to strumming chords. But that’s just how I hear it.
@maritjansen9802
@maritjansen9802 11 ай бұрын
Or the R30!
@TMoody
@TMoody 3 жыл бұрын
Because he lives I can face tomorrow.... because he lives ALL fear his gone. Praise him praise him praise him!
@jamiem1
@jamiem1 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to start my statement and "opinion" off by saying - no disrespect to anyone here thats stated their "opinion", whether you are an occasional music enjoyer/listener who wears hearing aids with the hearing of a 95yo gunny sgt. who's withstood considerable hearing loss from firing and having heavy artillery fired in close proximity or you're a master luthier who's been blessed with the ability to hear a sewing needle dropped to a wood floor from 20 paces. I cant believe that all who have commented on this video comparing these two guitars are listening to the same thing and it's blowing my mind 🤯😆 I have some strong notions as to why some are probably biased due to price, region of manufacture, ownership, outside influence etc. etc. Im using my ears and feel like a blindfolded A vs B test would be very beneficial but I digress. What I hear between these two guitars is they both sound beautiful and have alot of the qualities I love in the sound of an acoustic guitar. Both are punchy with excellent bass frequency and response which is something I really look for in a full size acoustic. Both have an adequate actually quite nice top end shimmer. Heres where I feel these two differ the most - the mid range frequencies. The Martin sounds hollow compared to the Yamaha, thats where the Yamaha excels to my ears. That's why I feel that some on here have commented that the Martin "is" punchier, I dont feel this is the case. I feel that the Martin is lacking in mid frequencies and that makes it seem more punchy and/or bass heavy. To my ears the Yamaha is every bit as punchy with those added midrange qualities that make it fuller, more lush, just a more balanced sound with more string separation and clarity. The Yamaha doesn’t really sound any colder to me, just fuller. I prefer the sound of the Yamaha, not by a long shot but it's a solid preference, with that being said I've always loved and been a big fan of Martin, Gibson and Taylor guitars and use them as benchmarks of tone and build quality. Price doesn’t even enter into my preference here, its all about tone and to be honest if I was offered both of these instruments used for the same price with the assumption I would keep them for life, I would choose the LL16 given they both had the same playability and immaculate condition. I see some misconceptions about these guitars being a different body shape when they're both dreadnought bodies, maybe slightly different dimensions but very close. Also I seen some assumptions that the Yamaha had laminate or plastic in its construction? It is all solid wood, top, back and sides. Only plastic bridgepins and maybe saddle and nut? But the bridge pins are throwaways and the builders knowledge that different players with preference different materials for bridgepens, saddle and nut and will customize to their liking when they change strings. Anyway, there's my takeaway and my preference. Id be glad to peacefully and respectfully discuss thoughts with anyone on this comment board. Happy playing Brothers and Sisters. 🎸🎼🎵🎶🎶😎
@tedzander1708
@tedzander1708 3 жыл бұрын
These are such important videos, I just wish in videos like these (which I thoroughly appreciate) that the string type and age would be mentioned.
@grindlessenior
@grindlessenior 3 жыл бұрын
i have a yamaha but i use martin (extra light) strings lol
@lowellcalavera6045
@lowellcalavera6045 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this... I dig your format. Even though an LL-26 or 36 would have been slightly closer to the D-28s build quality, it still shows to the "Martin is always better" audience what we Yamaha lovers have known for a long time! (I have an LS16R and a Martin 000-17 hanging side by side, and the Martin only gets played by guests).You should probably mention that people looking for that sound can save $1500 with the LL16.
@cugir321
@cugir321 Жыл бұрын
And how is the quality of the Martin better?
@lowellcalavera6045
@lowellcalavera6045 Ай бұрын
@@cugir321it isn't better.
@duffers29
@duffers29 2 ай бұрын
The fact the LL16s getting compared to D28 says all u need to know , great guitar & price imo.
@antoniocosta4924
@antoniocosta4924 3 жыл бұрын
O Violão tem som bonito e ainda mais com louvor desse sendo tocado.👌
@arthurogle7581
@arthurogle7581 4 жыл бұрын
Blueridge and Yamaha Giant Killers.
@tractordirt
@tractordirt 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, 3 minutes very well spent. Great comparison...love the song, and that arrangement! Just actually payed the LL16 along with 3 or 4 Martins ($2500-$5k). The Martins all had a bit richer warmer time, compared the the Yamaha which was a brighter on the top end. Same sense I got from this demo. That said, the Yamy is a fantastic guitar, especially for Chinese made, and might mellow a bit over time, and as the strings wear. :) Tremendous value.
@savanaviolenta
@savanaviolenta 2 жыл бұрын
I have the LL 16 D A. R. E and I can confirm about the strings, too bright. Changing them whit warm sounding ones might improve the sound, but all in all a great guitar and tone.
@rickdiamond6
@rickdiamond6 2 жыл бұрын
The Yamaha has a torrefied top, so it may not mellow too much.
@leerothman7570
@leerothman7570 2 жыл бұрын
Change the LL to bone saddle and pins and change out the strings for the SP Martins Phosphor Bronze and you'll eat your words I promise. Been there done that
@miketerechenok6212
@miketerechenok6212 Жыл бұрын
The song is called, "because he lives". Gospel Music my friend.
@tomformanek3312
@tomformanek3312 Жыл бұрын
The urea nut and saddle create the brightness on the Yamaha. I got one on a trade after the previous owner switched both to Tusq. I then added Buffalo horn pins. It went from great to wow!
@HO2-b2d
@HO2-b2d 4 жыл бұрын
여윽시...중요한건 기타가아니라.. 손이다...👍👍
@kimsmarketing
@kimsmarketing Жыл бұрын
이 두 기타가 비교가 된다는 것 자체가 너무 훌륭하네요.
@USNAVDC
@USNAVDC 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice picking style....Great video!
@gazgarbett6113
@gazgarbett6113 2 жыл бұрын
I have just bought an LL16D so may be I sound a little biased. BUT listening to the two sounds on here, I would choose the Yamaha as it seems to be more resonant in the mid and brighter high tones where the Martin sounds, to my ear, quite muddy. Glad I got mine "new" second hand with original strings seemingly played and stored. £500 well spent and £400 saved from new (er) one. I have several yamahas a Taylor 314 and cannot believe the quality of sound from these Yammies for the £. I always recommend them to anyone considering a first "Real" guitar.
@DaveSteveShaun
@DaveSteveShaun 3 жыл бұрын
Ever thought of learning how to play a proper bar chord! I like the Yamaha - I used to own the old model and still miss it.
@stephenhanlin2388
@stephenhanlin2388 3 жыл бұрын
Who the hell cares about a bar chord, besides you?
@sean8553
@sean8553 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha has that brightness I like, and amazing sustain.
@dennisbronson3058
@dennisbronson3058 4 жыл бұрын
They're both really nice looking ...and....nice sounding guitars !!! I own a Yamaha LL16 - - EXACTLy like the one you're demonstrating, so I may be slightly biased.....but I do believe ....overall....the the Yamaha wins this particular comparison. The Beauty of the LL16, is that you could go around to 10 different music stores and play 10 different LL16 's ....and guaranteed......9 of the 10 would sound excellent and be of very precise construction / from my experience, you could do the same experiment with the Martin D28 and out of 10 guitars.....you would find 3 or 4 that would look and sound 'amazing' !!!! Unfortunately, the other 6 would not compare to the LL16. Also, ( where I live ) you can pick up the LL16 for 1/3 rd the cost of the Martin.
@perrym8548
@perrym8548 3 жыл бұрын
The Yamaha does win it's a $1500 guitar being faced up with a $4000 guitar and it still keeps up. He needs to compare the Yamaha with the Martin D13 road series which is $1600-$1800 something more appropriate in price range
@alexcrayfish
@alexcrayfish 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, listening with quality headphones - the Martin lost by a mile.
@mns8732
@mns8732 3 жыл бұрын
Martin wins.
@esratlipi7844
@esratlipi7844 3 жыл бұрын
Yes surprising
@yourguitar666
@yourguitar666 3 жыл бұрын
Same opinion man, its super diffrent with headphone, seriuosly, the real sound detail
@vespass225
@vespass225 3 жыл бұрын
@@mns8732 Not....
@victorjoseabraham3827
@victorjoseabraham3827 3 жыл бұрын
Because he live I can face tomorrow... amazing playing both sounds are cool
@brandonburdick7820
@brandonburdick7820 3 жыл бұрын
The Martin Is clearer but sounds less blended when hitting a chord.. Both are great sounding rosewood guitars. The yamaha is a little smoother/ blended with the chords and the rhythm guitar. Not a ton of flatpicking here but I'm going to assume the Martin is going to win the Bluegrass Comp, with big bass but they're supposed to. I'm sure anyone here would love to own or play either one, and have a hell of a time playing them!
@alexcorll90
@alexcorll90 2 жыл бұрын
They're both nice. I would pick the Martin for it's open woody tone. The LL16 sounds tighter and brighter and somewhat artificial with less resonance. But for the money, it's extremely nice, and compares favorably to the martin.
@muttsongster
@muttsongster Жыл бұрын
Yep, I've had an LL16 since the late 2000s and got a used 2002 D28 recently and there is just more clarity and wooden sounding depth in the Martin, to my ears. These are very subtle differences that most don't hear but it's there. The LL16 has a bigger bass and brighter sound but when I thump a string it just doesn't have that same depth. It seems to have a slightly plasticy sound, to my ears.
@alexcorll90
@alexcorll90 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think that's what I was getting at describing it as aritificial. It's not bad, but does have a plasticky tone as you say. I think an LL36 or LL56 would be a much better comparison.@@muttsongster
@노나라-g5v
@노나라-g5v 3 жыл бұрын
야마하 기타들은 항상 훨씬 비싼기타랑 비교해도 안꿀림 정말 기술력이 좋은듯
@40rpt
@40rpt 4 жыл бұрын
When you listen with quality headphones, the Yamaha sounds much more articulate, but still maintains a nice bass response. The Martin just sounds kind of muddy. In this case I think the Yamaha is the clear winner.
@savanaviolenta
@savanaviolenta 4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha has richer tone and more harmonics. Its a killer guitar. The Martin... well kind of not so.
@vojislavvoxmilosevicmile2129
@vojislavvoxmilosevicmile2129 4 жыл бұрын
Well good muddy sound is what some people (me, for example) are looking for! So, basicaly, there 2 ideal guitars: Gibson J-45 and Martin d-28 (both mahagony back and sides)... and any other guitar sounding similar. Even Martin D-28 (rosewood) is too bright, too sparkly, too treble in higher registers. And then, going plugged in: acoustic humbucking magnet (for example Seymour Duncan SA-3HC) and not any kind of under the saddle pick up. Bit dirty sound from magnet (bit of gain) and not quacky like piezzo at all. And then for the recording: mix of one miked guitar and one with acoustic humbucking magnet. And as far as for sparklier (treblier...) guitars: there are bunch of those for a good price and the other bunch of expensive ones (read Taylor). Everyone to its taste. But it mis so hard to find a good bassy, woody, muddy acoustic guitar below price of Gibson J-45 :(
@ctruett5
@ctruett5 3 жыл бұрын
@@vojislavvoxmilosevicmile2129 See if you can get your hands on a used Eastman E10-SS. Put some John Pearse Pure Nickel strings on it and you'll have a close sister to the sound of a J-45. If I remember I'll send you some clips of mine.
@palisicky
@palisicky 3 жыл бұрын
When i listen to this comment on headphones you sound like a KAREN
@elsizzle2000
@elsizzle2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@palisicky this shit made me LOL
@michaelg.damons6229
@michaelg.damons6229 3 жыл бұрын
Because He Lives a Great Song .A Great Guitar player .
@ogitanguyen5901
@ogitanguyen5901 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. D-28 sound is warmer, woody and not harsh. I don't have any of these guitars.
@joshs3905
@joshs3905 2 жыл бұрын
is it just me or does the Yamaha sound more full... I am in utter amazement. Yamaha truly makes quality for a fraction of the cost
@SteveMiller-yw7kv
@SteveMiller-yw7kv Жыл бұрын
It almost sounds like the Martin hasn't quite opened up yet.. I just purchased the Yamaha and it's an amazing instrument.. for less than half price of the Martin 🤷
@pienpien2
@pienpien2 4 жыл бұрын
Both quitars sound very good. The strange thing is that I played on several very expensive Martin's in quitar shops, and I didn't like them at all. Last week I tried a Yamaha LLX16 and it had a great sound and was easy to play. Maybe I'll buy that quitar.
@tenniswilliam
@tenniswilliam 3 ай бұрын
I have a D35 and a D15M as well as a Yamaha FS800. The latter of course is inexpensive but is distinctive and really enjoyable. Hence I have been shopping for a higher end Yamaha like FG5 or LL16. I would say the comparison demo here is quite instructional because the D28 has that Martin tone that is special like the models I have. I would not say it is better or worse than the LL16. Then the Yamaha has its own thing that is special
@junichimaruyama3421
@junichimaruyama3421 2 ай бұрын
I own a YAMHA LL16-RRE and a Gibson-J45. I live in Japan, where the humidity and temperature change drastically throughout the seasons, and I can't keep my Gibson-J45 out of its case all the time because I'm concerned about the warping of the neck and body. In that respect, YAMAHA is resistant to changes in humidity and temperature, so in the end, the LL16-RRE is the one I always have by my side. Both the LL16-RRE and J45 are good guitars, but the LL16-RRE has the upper hand in terms of volume and delicacy. However, I don't know why, but J45 may be the most comfortable for me as a player.
@hwajones
@hwajones Жыл бұрын
Are you playing Because he Lives?! Fantastic
@acrylicrecording
@acrylicrecording Жыл бұрын
Not sure what strings are on these, but that needs to be considered quite a bit! Both are great though. Yamaha totally wins in this comparison IMO
@jamesmacdon9351
@jamesmacdon9351 3 жыл бұрын
I just got an LL16 ARE (2017 model year used but mint with hard case $800 Canadian) and a beautiful guitar, handcrafted ,solid wood, Adirondack spruce top, and the sound is just unbelievable really for that price. I love Martin’s too but I will not pay that much money for them. A D-18 is $1500 more new than a LL16....and in Canada you cannot even find either the LLs or the FG3 and 5 series Red Labels anywhere. I was lucky and purchased new a Yamaha FG3X Red Label last November and man o man what a guitar ($1400 plus tax with top notch gig bag)....can’t justify a Martin and in fact could have had both the LL16 and FG3 for same price as a D-18.
@ПавлоВенгерко
@ПавлоВенгерко 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, please tell me how you like the Yamaha LL16 guitar, how it sounds through the pickup, are there any problems with the tuning with equalization or is there a background from the pickup ?
@zelejazz
@zelejazz 4 жыл бұрын
Both great...Martin is warmer, more woody and organic.
@atta1798
@atta1798 4 жыл бұрын
debatable ... depending on he sound quality warm = darker or darker = duller?
@artsistellar
@artsistellar 3 жыл бұрын
So pretentious lol - what the hell does woody and organic sound like? Lmao
@zelejazz
@zelejazz 3 жыл бұрын
@@artsistellar train your ears ;)
@atta1798
@atta1798 3 жыл бұрын
@@artsistellar stretch your mind a bit and be a good sportsman.....take warmer instead...since it is the Music Industry most of you have no education like in engineering so it is hard to quantify what it is being said..so does that make you colder than him? :)..in this case bright to duller depending on the wood type is a good baseline to start debating.....preferences which have to be respected....
@lofcwomen-com
@lofcwomen-com 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1991 custom shop HD28V and I just bought a Yamaha LL TA (that's an LL-16 with electronics). All in all, the HD28 has the edge when it comes to depth/bass but the LL is louder and brighter. The build quality of the LL is top notch and matches or surpasses the HD28 in all respects. I'd always dreamt of having my own Martin dreadnought but now, for 1/3rd of the price, the LL gives me pretty everything the HD28 does. In fact, the decoration of the LL sits between the D35 & D41, let's not get into the price of one of those. The on-board Yamaha pickup is OK but that's not really what this guitar is all about. The in-built actuator (TA) is wonderful, not for the purist maybe, but playing it is pure joy. I still love Martin Guitars but they need to pick up the pace or just rely on the traditionalist market who buy them for the name as much as anything else.
@leerothman7570
@leerothman7570 2 жыл бұрын
Get your luthier to change out the LL's saddle and pins for bone and you'll eat your words. I compared the custom shop HD to a Yamaha LL-TA and took the TA home immediately after the saddle and pins got changed out as the luthier told me it would exceed the Martin. He was right and I handed him my VISA
@theUnSub_46
@theUnSub_46 11 ай бұрын
It's difficult to beat a Martin but the Yamaha holds it's own. I can't afford a Martin and for the difference in price, I like the Yamaha sound and it would be fun to experiment with. I may purchase one.
@coolhandluke2310
@coolhandluke2310 Жыл бұрын
Sold my d-28 and am looking at the ll16. Save a ton of money.
@GuillermoCarrasco
@GuillermoCarrasco 4 жыл бұрын
To my ears, Yamaha is better suited for flat pick playing and Martin to finger style... Both sound beautiful, indeed.
@osamabinladen824
@osamabinladen824 3 жыл бұрын
It's because of the thicker strings on Yamaha.
@antoniomagliulo7996
@antoniomagliulo7996 4 жыл бұрын
Posseggo due chitarre elettriche made in USA: Gibson BB KING Lucille e Fender Stratocaster con pu custom shop. Splendide entrambe. Poi ho due chitarre acustiche: Epiphone EJ-200 e Yamaha LL 16D ARE. Quelle che amo di più sono la Gibson e la Yamaha. In questo momento ho fra le braccia la Yamaha con la quale ho suonato tutto il pomeriggio con gran soddisfazione. Non ho avuto necessità di amplificare la chitarra nonostante abbia sempre suonato accompagnato da basi su pc collegato al mixer. Credo di aver fatto un'ottima scelta.
@turrafirmaguitarchannel
@turrafirmaguitarchannel Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the Martin needs to be played for a few years. The Yamaha sounds more responsive in this comparison.
@MrReStories
@MrReStories 3 жыл бұрын
Either of those would do me 😃. Great comparison, thanks
@oldpicker49
@oldpicker49 3 жыл бұрын
best demo i have seen on ytube
@riccipriani3623
@riccipriani3623 3 жыл бұрын
The Yamaha has more depth and clarity - this needs to be listened to with decent headphones to appreciate the difference,.
@fischman26-China
@fischman26-China 5 ай бұрын
Nice comparison. I am looking for another Yamaha acoustic, either a small body or jumbo. I just bought a AC3M DLX so I am willing to pay a decent price for a quality Yamaha. I need to check out their L series. It will take some time. Oh, the joy of guitar hunting.
@w.lixfeld8164
@w.lixfeld8164 Жыл бұрын
both great guitars!
@cowboy742
@cowboy742 2 жыл бұрын
I like them both but the Yamaha LL16 costs one third of the price of the Martin D28 with no major difference in sound to me.
@LUCKYB.
@LUCKYB. 3 жыл бұрын
Man oh Man I cannot believe the Tones from that Yamaha .. after all these years even the 60s and early 70s yamaha FG are sounding better. Aged wood taken care of .
@osamabinladen824
@osamabinladen824 3 жыл бұрын
Woods in guitars are like wines. They're better when they age.
@eunkkonglife
@eunkkonglife 4 жыл бұрын
너무 잘 봤습니다!! LS 16 vs OM 28 영상도 있었으면 너무 좋을 것 같아요!
@helmanfrow
@helmanfrow 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny. I performed this same test at my local store not long ago. I played the Yammy for a good 20 minutes until I was familiar with its nuances. I marvelled at how good it sounded for the price. Then I picked up the Martin and immediately felt a wave of humility on behalf of the Yamaha. The Yamaha may be terrific for its price but the Martin is simply on another level. Its tone has a sublime, refined sort fullness entirely its own. The Yamaha's tone resembles the Martin's in the same way that a young student's work might resemble that of his master. Of course, the Martin commands four times the price, which might make you think twice before taking it to the beach or house party. So I say buy one of each. 😉
@helmanfrow
@helmanfrow 2 жыл бұрын
Nice playing and recording, BTW. Simple, consistent and and to-the-point. Made it easy to hear the differences.
@draganloncarevic6202
@draganloncarevic6202 2 жыл бұрын
My dear friend,I have Yamaha ll16 for more than two years and it's fantastic! But,let me tell you what I did. I gave it to my luthier and he replaced the tuners-he put 200$ wawerly instead of die cast,scaloped the bracing and replaced plastic nut and saddle with bone!! So,for 1500$,which I spent for buying and upgradeing,I have the guitar much,much better than Martin 28, even 28HD!! Conclusion-by Yamaha,upgrade it and save your money.
@togelz
@togelz 11 ай бұрын
Come for the comparison but stays for the Hymn,... I'm a sinful person but i believe that He died once for my sins and now He lives,...
@lorenzor2555
@lorenzor2555 11 ай бұрын
I own a 2003 Martin HD-28V and now I am just thinking to sell it and buy a Yamaha LL-16 ARE. Martin are great guitars, but for my style of playing I think Yamaha suits better. Yamaha make some great guitars: I still own my very first guitar, which my father bought me as a birtday gift in 1979, when I was a kid, a Yamaha FG-305W. With age it sounds amazing, in some aspects better than my HD-28V! I am not joking. And it’s a laminated guitar. I still can’t understand how this is possible
@Elaleyelunivese
@Elaleyelunivese 4 ай бұрын
Martin of course!. Love that Yamaha too. Martin is woody deph
@MrMikeb8
@MrMikeb8 4 жыл бұрын
i have the LL-16D but i would still like a martin D-28
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