Yamaha | MODX+ Overview

Check out the compact, lightweight MODX+ synthesizers, designed to help you take control of your sound and stand out on every stage, studio or stream.
MODX+ is powered by the same innovative technologies found in our flagship MONTAGE synthesizer including the AWM2 (Advanced Wave Memory 2) sample and synthesis engine and a pure FM-X (Frequency Modulation) synth engine for amazing sound playback and complex sound design.
MODX+ Motion Control brings the sophisticated automation of music production to live performances by giving you simultaneous control of up to 128 parameters. So you can shape live sound like a conductor commands an orchestra.
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[@Echochamber79]

My gosh... EVERY TIME a new keyboard comes out all people do is complain, complain, and complain. No one ever mentions how lucky we are to have all this cool technology.

[@damelos4039]

THANK YOU! These tools are amazing. No one tool will every do EVERYTHING! Jeez....

[@NoMoreRatRace4Me]

That's what complainers do..THEY COMPLAIN!!

[@amusic9825]

Because it's the same thing released as new.

[@awesomereviews1561]

Complains are exactly why you get cool stuff. If no one ever complained about anything, you would be playing on a keyboard with 8 polyphonics sounds instead of 256.

[@thegreat1548]

Im gonna complain today. I hate it make it Aluminium instead & after they are done making it. Make the knobs gold next time..im open to complain everytime

[@JDStoneCreations]

I'm not seeing anything new here apart from a few mb memory, some rubberised mod wheels and a + sign...

[@williamshaneblyth]

aditional 64 voice polyphony and a few extra mb is actual from 1gb to 1.7gb so its now the same as the montage also the seamless switching has doubled in a sound from 4 to so same as montage which is a big jump its a Plus not a new model cpmpletely to double FM voices probably means a second process chip for that which could possibly used for other things like ANX

[@Wagoo]

@@williamshaneblyth there's no intrinsic reason AN-X wouldn't work, perhaps at half polyphony, on the original MODX though. If it's artificially restricted from an update to the original MODX, as some kind of incentive to get a MODX+/Montage/Montage+.. then it'll be a bit of a crime

[@Wagoo]

No AN-X engine, eh

[@BelongingToTheUniverse]

with such a sound as it gives out, it is not needed, believe me…

[@Wagoo]

@@BelongingToTheUniverse I have a MODX and an AN1x, you don't need to tell us MODX/Montage sounds good at what it does thanks. Adding new engines like AN, VL, VP would be a nice strategy on firmware updates across the line, though.. and would "give out" different sounds by nature of different synthesis methods

[@HornetBojan]

AN1x is in a league of its own ... Not even standard sequencer too on Montage, no RS7000 features etc. etc. This is called progress. We're going back, not forward. They should build "dream machine" by now, but no ...

[@angelparedes9967]

When the AN-X will come out in the modx7 +

[@BlackBlofeld]

Too expensive/overpriced, compared to MODX. Yamaha did a big mistake with the MODX+ prices. If they had kept the same price for the new + models, MODX+ would be a new best seller. But with these crazy prices i doubt. I bought a MODX7 one month ago at €1,400, and now the new MODX7+ cost €2,000!🤨 Really? For what exactly? For 700MB more for user RAM, or for 128-voice polyphony (instead of 64) for FM engine?🤔 These prices are a joke, none of MODX users will replace their instruments with the + models, and the new customers will think twice to buy a new model at this price.

[@gustavogutierrez5482]

True...All brands seem to have risen prices on recent years. I think the pandemic made the demand grow..the companies are taking advantage of It. Workstations are more expensive than ever..they are milking the cow, releasing "new" products with just marginal improvements. I'm sticking with my 2017 unit, at least for now.

[@musicandfilms9956]

Perhaps dealers were selling off their stock of the MODX. I bought my MODX6 in June from a UK dealer for £809. There is no way I would remotely consider trading up: I use it mostly as a sound engine with a DAW, and nothing in the upgrade is of interest.

[@alfredoherlo5501]

Cierto y a todo esto las teclas no son contrapesadas o duras, sino sencillas

[@terrygray7465]

Speak for yourself. I'm a MODX owner that has already placed an order for the Plus. I'll sell the original once I get the new one.

[@BlackBlofeld]

@@terrygray7465 Good for you, this was a Genius decision. Yamaha loves you...😴

[@Johngengelbach2]

I'm still enjoying my DX 7 2d today

[@genxblend]

2022 and I'm still playing my MOX8. MODX+ doesn't have enough wow factor for me to upgrade. Maybe next generation after MODX+ will be more enticing.

[@MCOlangotang]

Yep! My MODX 6 is basically 97% of what this gives. I was surprised that the cool "blurring" feature was given in an update a while ago. The programming for this synth is so deep, it's not even funny.

[@JFFRY_RGRS]

It's 2022 and I'm still playing my Motif ES6 😦 I need to look into upgrading 😓

[@josupuff]

2022 and Im still playing my yamaha p70, maybe its time to upgrade

[@damelos4039]

@@MCOlangotang Still rockin' my MODX6. Not sure this enough for me to upgrade.

[@Aetila]

@@JFFRY_RGRS I think the Motif line/layout looked more sexy, lol. Also, I liked the mod-strip on them. I wish they had kept the form and color factor...I don't like the boring black nuance and the lower round corners and the missing separate mod-strip. For this money one could buy a new Phantom 06 with a good looking control surface. Yamaha could have put in 8 faders for the new higher price...

[@kiko1935]

An-X?

[@jmjourneys8352]

This looks a lot like Bert Smorenburg was playing this… I would love to see him do a full video on the MODX+!

[@SahajaVerma]

He don't work for Yamaha officially now I believe, I talked to him few years back he told he's more into composing & post-production at SMP Amsterdam, Haven't saw him at NAMM 2017 and Later. 2016 was his last. In replace, we have Peter Baartmans, Martin Harris, Dom Sigalas, Michel Voncken (Maybe), Joachim Wolf (Maybe), Blake Angelos, Nate Tschetter** (Spelling mistake) and Tony Escueta All those years, from CS1X to Montage, He demonstrated every Yamaha major keyboard, Synth & piano and literally entertained us

[@jacquesmertens3369]

I think that guy was either permanently high, or there was a short-circuit in the keyboards he played.

[@jimsuber6784]

Bert Smorenburg, Yamaha's leading hand model. He has such unique cuticals

[@djerikfox]

nothing special ,no need to upgrade from modx to +......

[@RoyMaya]

I wish Yamaha would make a desktop version. I could do without the keys since the keybed isn't that great, plus it would save space in the studio.

[@Wagoo]

+1 for 19" rackmount capable desktop module with full controls. I asked a lot for it after the MODX first came out, but gave up eventually after I had it confirmed from a few staff that it wasn't in the pipeline

[@jimharris6389]

@@Wagoo, I think it's because they see it as a performance synth what with all the knobs and sliders. Sticking all that in a rack would compromise that intention. Not saying it's a good reason, but I imagine that's their thinking.

[@vikramjitbanerjeetuki]

+1 for a rack version 👍

[@Wagoo]

@@jimharris6389 perhaps, but it's flawed reasoning as there are plenty of control encrusted rack modules that also work in desktop mode. I'm not talking about a 1U rack with poor controls, FS1r style, but rather 4U-6U kind of size..

[@jimharris6389]

@@Wagoo agreed. It shouldn't stop them doing some sort of keyboardless desktop version either. I think at some point Yamaha decided they were a keyboard company. All they've done besides stage pianos in the last decade is MODX/Montage and the Reface series. All great instruments but all keyboards.

[@LuigiMaesano]

I own a Modx7, please show a comparison chart of the differences between MODX and MODX+

[@Wagoo]

New rubbery pitch and mod wheels, extra FM chip so you get 128 note polyphony of FM-X instead of 64, 1.75GB internal flash size instead of 1GB.

[@tiomkinnyborg2289]

It's got s shinny logo with a plus on it. Same old insides. It is a plastic coated Montage with limited io and a cheap key-bed. This a shameless money grab.

[@jaybeetdown]

I have a MODX6, I love it. This "plus" is basically the Montage in a MODX shell. It will sound and perform better than the standard model that we have.

[@classicarcadeamusementpark4242]

@@jaybeetdown I have the original MODX6 too. The 6+ is going to largely sound identical. The 128 note FM-X engine is only going to matter to people playing modern music. I play classic music from the 80, 70s & 90s. The DX-7 was 16 notes, 64 is more than enough for almost any musicians needs in an FM synth with few exceptions. The ram upgrade I do welcome. I'll likely pick one up next year and keep my old one as a spare. It basically comes down to if you don't need the ram upgrade, there is hardly any reason to upgrade. Still, the "street price" is only $100 more here in the USA and well worth it for the ram. Not for the only insignificant improvements.

[@classicarcadeamusementpark4242]

@@jaybeetdown The plus barely makes it any more on par with a Montage than the original MODX, except the ram upgrade.

[@donstevenson2170]

Did Yamaha improve the shitty touch screen hardware that has failed on my MODX8? I am still waiting for a new touch screen to be covered under warranty with an 8 to 12 week lead time. I have got almost $2000.00 invested in a keyboard that is just over a year old that has been unusable for 6 months. I'm done with Yamaha...

[@Jason75913]

All of the manufacturers have been having logistical issues due to the pandemic, and AKM and TSMC got hit with natural disasters that have affected their productions (TSMC makes most of the circuit chips in electronic devices everywhere on this planet and AKM DACs and interface chips and other stuff can be found everywhere in music gear for nearly 20 years). One of my guitar pedals had to wait close to a year to finally be replaced. I emailed the company a few times throughout the months and they kept telling me that they were waiting on parts. A friend had similar issues with a TV, another with his car. Various synths and other things were out of stock for months despite not being discontinued. New cars were out of stock a long time and dealerships were trying to get by on sourcing used cars wherever they could, lightly used cars were what sold immediately upon availability.

[@donstevenson2170]

@@Jason75913 Yes, i am aware of the supply chain issues. The sad part is that they promised a new replacement keyboard and never delivered. They had over 400 new MODX8s in their US warehouse. And the retailer, (Guitar Center where I purchased the product) also had hundreds of new units in their distribution center. Neither company would ship me a new unit that was promised. Between the two companies, they had the resources to resolve the issue. Now they have a pissed off customer who will tell the world. Both companies forced me to buy from their competitors. If either company didn't have the unit, I'd understand. But they had hundreds of units available.

[@joshuacornett4762]

With ASM managing to put a really nice keyboard with polyphonic aftertouch into their very not plastic $1,299 Hydrasynth, it seems like a real missed opportunity that the MODX+, at this price point, doesn't even feature basic mono aftertouch, and the Montage-certainly at that price point-should have poly aftertouch. The MODX/Montage engine has so much potential for expression, as the knob demonstrates, but putting all of that control and expression at the player's fingertips without requiring them to reach up and grab a knob would help these instruments more fairly earn their price.

[@TheLawapa99]

Foot pedal

[@Wagoo]

Very true. They should have put a keybed with channel-aftertouch in the MODX+ and then polyphonic-aftertouch.. like they had 45 years ago(!) in an upgraded Montage+

[@peadookie]

not to mention the $500 Hydrasynth Explorer...

[@doublebabba]

Aftertouch? Once used it on organ for vibrato. Not a world-moving feature. There surly are more serious problems with the MODX. How to trust a company that doesn't fix faults... or user, reviewers and clappers, who don't see those faults?

[@Wagoo]

@@doublebabba then you've never used aftertouch to any real degree, if you've only ever used it for vibrato. It can be used as a modulation source for anything. Try listening to Vangelis playing a Yamaha CS-80, which has polyphonic-aftertouch.. and hugely increases the expressivity of that instrument 👍

[@deadmanwalking6342]

Yes, yes and yes, its fantastic, brilliant and gorgeous , but very woke, so when will you give us the ultimate synth, the VP1+GX1+D85+Sy99+CS70M+CS01 combo with inbuilt toaster?

[@jacquesmertens3369]

What I really want from any new product is a larger touchscreen that you can simply plug in (or connect via hdmi), making it easy to replace. Because this is the part that usually degrades or fails first. And what happened to MIDI 2.0? Have you forgotten about it again? Is the hardware ready for MIDI 2.0? Can new firmware fix it? No MIDI 2.0 = no deal.

[@vanessajazp6341]

The new form looks very intriguing, but this overly busy video actually does a poor job of showing the instrument, imo. Slow down and focus on things better. Anyone watching this wants to see the instrument more in depth.

[@diskoekaterinburg]

Сколько понтов, а звук такой на любом фрутике можно сделать.

[@gabrielegelfofx]

C’mon…zero ideas. Stop with digital FM, we already have Modx or Montage. Also coupling our Modx with the Korg Opsix VST we get the best of FM synthesis. Now we want a real analog synth from Yamaha.

[@kelvinperez8845]

Yamaha need to add a new engine , new sounds , a new sequencer pattern ala Roland fantom 06 , but this is the same old modx with 64 more poliphony and 745 more user ram ,i s a shame.

[@wilcandou]

Two things need to be copied from the SY77-99 series; Dual input on every operator which give you freedom where you assign feedback loops (SY has THREE feed back loops) AND... more FM base waves (the SY has 15 to choose from assignable to any and all operators) as opposed to MODX/Montage 2. SY series were a true monster in the FM game back then and the TG77 Rack version (to this day) are highly sought after. YAMAHA... just something to consider. :)

[@Wagoo]

Agreed. They should add formant stuff from the FS1r, too

[@Wagoo]

@@dvamateur oh definitely. I think we were all expecting the AN engine to be in this update.. however I had expected some more physical controls to be added to aid with subtractive synthesis, too. Perhaps we'll get that engine in an update, or it'll make it into a different product. The Reface CS seems based on the AN1x engine (but cut down, smaller MIDI map), and every other Reface has a larger, more serious equivalent now.. so I've always thought they might do a CS61. Perhaps in CS-80 style, as their IdeaScale site started up about 5 years ago and we haven't really seen any fruit from it. VL and VP engines would be a dream 👍

[@wilcandou]

@@Wagoo Oh yeah... that's a rockin, spooky FM monster too.

[@jacobbrown1690]

@@Wagoo montage 2. Hope they announce it winter namm

[@joshuacornett4762]

I've never owned an SY77 (it's on my list, but not yet) but I thought that the actual AWM sample-based waves could be used as FM modulators. At least I feel like I remember thinking that was a really exciting possibility.

[@Culture_of_Ghosts]

So the guts are nearly on par with the Montage now. I'm thinking that when the AN-X engine is eventually introduced, the Montage will get it in an update for free, whereas MODX+ owners will probably have to pay for it. I'm thinking along the lines of the Roland Fantom & the Fantom 0 series!

[@dvamateur]

Oh really, will the Montage/MOFX have the brand new synthesis methods on them? I'd be very much interested in VL-X and VP-X.

[@frankr7239]

I'm thinking Akai MPC keyboard for recording purposes but for real voices sounds of instruments it's yamaha.i hope they put am2 into the new Geno's and not theatre speakers or theatre sound that it down fall of the Geno's other than that it's a great keyboard of instrument sounds wise very real sound hope they put a daw in Geno's and recoding studio synth 2 mic lines and one for guitar edit midi abit better amw2 and this new one drum patterns and 16pads etc more vocoders auto tune for singing so no software need heaps of drum kits and voices from the past Yamaha's etc

[@woodyforrest313]

@@dvamateur Smart Morph is VP-X.

[@dvamateur]

@@woodyforrest313 Oh really? Does the Smart Morph do plucked instruments modeling?

[@woodyforrest313]

@@dvamateur the strength of the vp-1 consisted in morphing a guitar into mongolian bells or something similar. ask reinhold heil who owns one device. with the smart morph function of montage, modx and modx+ you can do exactly the same.

[@NeenMove]

I just bought one. I can’t wait to dive in.

[@tharaganathm5269]

How is the keybed ? Is it harder than the normal keys ?

[@didiercatz]

The interface looks hideous

[@michaelhonormusic]

I don´t think it´s worth the upgrade if you own a original modx, unless they update it with a VA engine.

[@ep1906]

Hi when will there be a modx+ software update so i can load my sounds Can u use the modx software?

[@joseluishernandezseptien]

Oh wow! What a synth! It has got so close to Montage that it reminded me of Nautilus and the Kronos.

[@HornetBojan]

Kronos is lightyears ahead of this nice looking flashy package. I'm sure it sounds great, has many features for the buck, but please ... If you know anything about Kronos you know how deep the rabbit hole goes in Korg Kronos ... 100 000 alleys and beyond. :))

[@joseluishernandezseptien]

@@HornetBojan I used to own a Korg Kronos for years! It is a great synthesizer/workstation that I respect but I sold it, Montage is much better for my needs. Just a matter of preference.

[@HornetBojan]

@@joseluishernandezseptien Yes, I agree. I almost bought Montage when it came out and then at the last minute I took the Korg Kronos 2. The most hidden secret of all time as synths goes was "does the Montage has "a working" sequencer, or better said even the standard sequencer. It took me several hours on web in 2017 to figure that out on some Yamaha forum, page 10000 ... :)) I like to work "outside computer" as much as possible, it kills my inspiration and workflow - "computer saga" is too slow for me, not to mention the wild possibilities on Kronos. It lacks sounds but I have other synths for that. If Montage would have the same seq power as Kronos I would buy it in a millisecond ... This new machines are way "weaker" then they could be. In 2022 they could build "the dream machine" so we don't have to use computer or better said the same device for porn, news and music. You want to be in "Navy Seal Mode" when you create something larger then life as they say. But as you written, everybody has their own preferences ... I think the time of the "all in one" beast machines is over and it's a sad thing considering the advancement in technology etc. No risk anymore, inspiration anymore in this companies, just pure cold market calculations producing nice shiny products that could be great producing great artists, but are average build for average people producing average results. Today's pop music is a proof of that.

[@arturomma8560]

@@HornetBojan hey bro, do yoy recomend modx6+ or Roland XPS30? I know they are very different but I just wanna play covers, Coldplay and The Killers covers only.. I don't need many technologies but I'd edit sounds and add effects like all their songs, I want very good quality of pianos, pads, synth and strings. So Yamaha is good for me?

[@HornetBojan]

@@arturomma8560 I would go for Yamaha MODX6 ... I like Roland's sounds, they are more "alive" something "exotic" about Roland's sounds yet Yamaha MODX6 is the way to go in this "situation" ... Roland's high end gear is next buying mission for me (Korg is a "cold machine", ying - yang combo with other gear ...), but you can't go wrong with Yamaha. Yamaha is better, more options, the sounds is great (sampled plus FM...) etc. and you will have a lot of fun ... :))

[@nautiliusmolpheus4799]

I am waiting to hear a kind of firmware update for my Modx from Yamaha

[@AlavonMajor]

I sincerely hope the keybeds for the 6 and 7 have been upgraded (fingers crossed)

[@tonylancer7367]

Nope.

[@Culture_of_Ghosts]

I very much doubt it

[@JamesThompson97]

Hell nah

[@BlueHedgehog12345678]

Exactly! Personally, I would have preferred if they had kept the 64 poly FM engine, but put an improved keybed, ie put the same keybed as the Montage with aftertouch. And that would be the right thing for me. I also prefer pitch/mod wheels to the left of the keyboard rather than above the keyboard, but apparently that's the trend.

[@AlavonMajor]

@@BlueHedgehog12345678 Right!!…for a person who works in studio environments where sound selection and audible nuances are critical, it’s kind of counter progressive to have to listen over the sound of the keybed bottoming out during sound selection..how is it that a $99 maudio controller can achieve keybed quietness but YAMAHA of all companies can’t or won’t for $1500-$2200? C’mon!!!🤯

[@SessionsWithMike]

After trying this out and the previous modx, I think you all are seriously underestimating how important an at least half decent keybed action is to players with not updating that serious weakness as well. So my big question is if Yamaha is not wanting to put much attention into the keybed or key action on the modx(+), imo the worst of the keyboards in this price range to save money, why not just make a sound module version? Much like the past motif racks? That way instead of this poorly constructed keybed, we can use our own midi keyboards and you'll still be at a similar market price point with a lower cost to manufacturer and less parts than the montage.

[@Jason75913]

But people do want keys, yet they want killer sounds, they have to compromise somewhere, so shoddy keys it is, just like with MOXF before it. Or get a Fantom-0.

[@ErraticFaith]

I have (very) rarely seen a 8 series Modx live. I never see the Fantom-0 and don't expect to. I see the FA instead. When I see the Modx (all the time) it's being rigged as 6/7. So whilst I understand the marketing gimmick here is 'one for the pianist' -- you won't see in practice because yes. It's a budget bed with no real 'pros' other than cheap. The tech however is not. It's brilliant and most who own one -- know what they want that for. I think as per Varrus, the sounds are key. Use something else for the often overblown 'Piano realism'. I don't know a single person who doesn't.

[@sharingmatters]

That is why I am considering buying Modx8+ as the Modx6+ keyboard is a bit lame. Like a toy. Is it not the solution?

[@SessionsWithMike]

@sharingmatters Modx+ sounds are amazing, and it's certainly not a toy. However, the keybed and keys on it are very cheap, poorly made, and don't utilize the full potential of those sounds. Depending on how important that is for you would determine that, but for me, it was ultimately a deal breaker, so I passed on getting one. I'm hoping they'll address this with the next version.

[@sharingmatters]

@@SessionsWithMike does modx8+ also have a bad keybed? Roland 08 has limits of memory and errors with poliphony and Kurzweil is complicated to use and doesnt have soundomondo. Hard to choose. I have Casio CDP-110 and it has an amazing keybed but I wanted something more advanced.

[@b0bhumperdinck795]

At least they're trying to have better synthesizers now think I'll still stick with my Korg

[@PRORECMUSIC]

Para quienes tienen el Modx original no veo realmente necesario el cambio.

[@Jason75913]

Deveras que no lo es. Pero esto parece haber impactado los usuarios del viejo MOXF en los Estados Unidos, una ola de ellos vendieron sus teclados tan pronto que Yamaha sacó el MODX+ con más memoria.

[@manoaramiarimanana5635]

Interresting keyboard but... At first look, there is no difference compared to the MODX, is it necessary to evolve the modx into modx+ instead of create a new keyboard, between Montage and modx? like Roland (Between Fa and Fantom, there is Fatom0) and Korg (between krome and kronos, there is nautilus)...

[@Wagoo]

Well this is still between Montage and MODX. The original MODX is already much closer to the Montage than either of those low end examples, too. There's very little between MODX+ and Montage in specs now.. mostly build quality and keybed quality/features.. so I imagine a newer Montage must be coming

[@rene.grondzi]

I would never buy a nother modx just for few new things that didn't cost jack. They had to make a new good uptade that's it.

[@Jason75913]

Yes, not for most existing MODX users. This has definitely impacted the remaining MOXF userbase, it seems, a new wave of used MOXFs hit the market once Yamaha dropped the MODX+ with more sample memory.

[@andesneko]

I wish you guys kept the Cubase integration from the MX and MOXF series. That's such a disappointment, I'd rather buy one of those older ones instead.

[@Jason75913]

Meanwhile, Roland goes all in on Ableton integration with Fantom-0, I've read others remark that it is badass at that. Did Yamaha just goof up? lol Or they did surveys and concluded that no one cares and ditched the feature.

[@ErraticFaith]

I think for live Yamaha are fine. Fantom-0 may be a step towards daw integration and seems to be getting a lot of 'vs' air time next to Akai and others but I think it's still not mature enough to matter. For Yamaha getting artists back out into the world (live) is important and I share that. The hiding at the home studio style is ...tedious.

[@thorstenweimar1190]

Fantastic sounds and music! Well done Yamaha and Dom 👍!

[@depositiveone2677]

Thanks, but no thanks. I'm satisfied with my current MODX7 and that's all I need.

[@jonathandossantossilva2683]

O fantom zero dá uma surra nesse modx!!!

[@二加二]

I wish it got a rack or a modular version.

[@JoseVGavila]

Not AN-X engine 😪

[@woodyforrest313]

nobody needs it imo.

[@JoseVGavila]

@@woodyforrest313 Have you played an AN1x?. Guess not

[@woodyforrest313]

@@JoseVGavila i have a virus ti2 desktop. no need for an an1x whatever. smart morph is the killer feature of modx and montage imo. just like vp-1. but you don´t need the plus version of modx for it.

[@JoseVGavila]

@@woodyforrest313 Wonderful thing about the Virus, but that does not mean an AN-X engine would not be cool on a MODX+/Montage!

[@fulge0903]

@@woodyforrest313 you are wrong, I have read in many forum threads about the AN1x and almost everyone wants this synth to be reissued; and in online 2nd hand markets is becoming rare and expensive due to high supplies and limited stocks producted at the time.

[@CorreeHoey]

The modx+ is what the modx should of been from jump.

[@alex_oiman]

1.75GB internal drive that a huge fucking joke that costs like $1

[@YEE941]

vl-x and an-x engines please and thank you

[@Wagoo]

May as well add VP-X while we're at it :)

[@sunnyschramm9650]

Will there be a Software-Upgrade for owners of the last gen MODX6/7/8 Synths? Bought my MODX8 not long ago 😞 I´d wish Yamaha would have done it like Korg with an upgrade from Kronos to Kronos X.

[@Wagoo]

As far as I know there is no difference in the firmware. MODX+ added an extra FM chip to double FM polyphony and a bit more internal flash storage

[@Jason75913]

You are good to go if you don't need the extra FM polyphony and increased sample memory. I can't imagine most users needing that, but apparently, this caused a new wave of MOXF users to sell their keyboards, likely to get the MODX+, lol

[@tsg50647]

Amazing!💎 Love it!⭐️

[@suelikesspurs]

The Yamaha demonstrator in UK is saying there is seamless sound switching on 8 parts now, not 4. Is that correct?

[@Culture_of_Ghosts]

Seamless sound switching on 4 parts like the original MODX, he got it wrong!

[@jaybeetdown]

It's 4

[@suelikesspurs]

Thanks for the replies. I did comment on the Anderton video and obtained a correction of sorts.

[@iforgot3942]

What does this MODX+ have that the Montage doesn’t have? Besides less weight, a crappy key-bed, & a lower price. Just wondering.

[@YEE941]

probably a lower spec d/a

[@monogramadikt5971]

complete overkill for making simple beats like the ones used in the demo lol

[@djfilippo1]

No AN-X, no sample editor, no Tonewheel Organ, no sequencer Midi-Audio, no drum pad.... Mha!

[@mrdali67]

This one seems a little easy baught by Yamaha. So you take a synth that is already 98% a Montage and make that 100% and keep the cheap chassis and keybed ? If you aint releasing a new top board I don’t see the point when your not caught with same dilemma as Korg with running out of hardware that can’t be easy replaced.

[@ayrtoninchejanampa6874]

Segun todo lo nuevo que trae, parece un simple refrito...

[@Jason75913]

No es para los que ya tienen un MODX

[@macguy99]

Oh! È un controller così bello. Devo davvero considerare l'acquisto di questo. Grazie per l'ottima recensione, Paolo!👍😎👍 Un buon weekend a te e alla tua famiglia. Pace e amicizia 😃🙏💗 Mac (alias RE-VO)

[@alexlifeson8946]

I'm selling my white Montage 6 for this side-grade. I don't miss the aftertouch, ribbon controller, 8 sliders, nor the heavy weight at all👍. The MODX+ live set is better than Montage. And the more tilted screen, front panel is excellent fur easier viewing!! I just wish the MODX+ had better quality side panels like the Montage. These plasticky panels feel so cheap. And availability in white or Motif XS Grey would've been nice

[@NegativeReferral]

It's obscene that even flagship keyboards, like the Montage, Fantom, and Kronos, still only have about 2-4 gigabytes of user sampler memory at most. A single piano library that runs in a DAW can easily take up more space than that. The concept of the "round robin" (cycling through different sample every time the key is pressed, to avoid repeating the same sample) is nearly universal in virtual simulations of acoustic instruments since the 2000s, and especially since the 2010s. However, such a concept is unheard of in keyboard land, where you can often get the same sample across different keys. I'm personally a fan of 90s/2000s keyboard sample sets, but if you want convincing realism on any instrument that isn't a synth itself, your best bet is software. While the smart morph on FM is admittedly cool, the use of non-sine operators is long overdue, and a nifty engine combining FM, analog and wavetable (much like PhasePlant) would be nice. It would also be cool if Yamaha, Roland, Korg, Casio, Kurzweil, etc. hired sound designers to make novel sounds, much like they did in the 80s.

[@LaziestKeys]

Kronos streams the samples directly from SSD. The 2gb of free ram can access between 25-50gb of ram with absolutely no delay as only the initial portion of the samples are actually loaded into ram.

[@Wagoo]

It tends to be industrial grade flash with a very high wear leveling that should last decades, hence the lower sizes. I do think all modern Linux based synths though should also allow for either 2.5" SATA SSD drive expansion or m.2 sticks to expand the extended storage capacity

[@xp50player]

Kronos has round-robin and some deeply sampled sounds.

[@jimharris6389]

MODX can do round robin. It's the random setting of the XA Control parameter. Page 107 of the refrence manual.

[@ikkejick]

Seeing and reading all this makes me proud of my Kronos gen 1 of 11+ years even more. That thing was years ahead and still compared to this thing I don't see a need to upgrade. Waiting for Kronos V3 (if it comes)

[@sublibrarian]

This is just a ripoff! The 88 key version costs 2200€ and has the GHS action!!?? The same as in the P45!!??? Aw come on!

[@Jason75913]

Oh no, P45 keybed is better if you try them both out in person. Or the MODX8 I tried out was messed up.

[@sublibrarian]

@@Jason75913 I play a P45 once a week and GHS is just acceptable for a keyboard in that price range. But unacceptable for keyboards as expensive as the MODX+ (what was wrong with the MODX anyway?) or the brand new CK88. Instead I am the proud owner of a Yamaha P515 which I play about two hours a day and its NWX action is excellent. So let's be fair I am not payin 2000€ for a mediocre key action I'd rather go for the 61 or 73 key version.

[@Jason75913]

@@sublibrarian I don't like the keybed in any MODX at all. I like to think of myself as not very picky about keybeds, but damn MODX sucks for the money in that aspect. It seems that is where Yamaha decided to skimp out in order to hit their intended target price. FA-08 and Fantom-08 have the best keybeds of the midrange workstations. I love my FA-08, and the sequencer and sampler están chidísimos. Sound-wise, it's good enough for me, and the interface is much better. Fantom-08 only gets better with its touchscreen.

[@calvi195]

Nice! Thumbs up for the first!

[@js-sound]

Why is MODX+ black? This product would be better suited to the color of childish surprise.

[@ICanFixThat2]

Maybe Behringer will launch an improved version of this series. Seems Yamaha is out of ideas a since long time ago. Just look around unknown names with master creations.

[@headboy]

Lots of pretty flashing lights, knobs, buttons, sliders, presets, readymade drums & rhythms, crappy keybed etc for people that can't actually play.

[@vcs9171]

Rackmount module please!

[@KingzofSwing]

Loads of features good price

[@gabrielleal4347]

We From Brazil, Needing of best Price... In the moment this is very high.

[@georgeagonzalez]

i have modx7 and modx8 ...super wow,,,,,i do recommend those synthe,,,bros,,,,,

[@pfbrodriguez]

i believe it is time to stop so many lights and buttons and start to make the sounds closer to real instruments. Clavia is kicking asses because of that.

[@bandungbusdriver5256]

yamaha listen... multifunctional synth fm vocoder... how much?

[@stackerman2800]

one things for Sure... Yamaha sure does know how to make tacky looking gear

[@suelikesspurs]

Do buyers in Europe and UK get the early adopter offer like buyers in the US do?

[@rickyperson4927]

Not seeing the upgrade point. Could they have not made a firmware update?

[@bio-metric-1016]

So what about the montage do we get an upgrade or what

[@deadmanwalking6342]

How dare You! (Greta says no to upgrades).

[@tharaganathm5269]

One small doubt, those 61 keys in modx6+ are really resistive ? Is there any resistive feel that the keys are somewhat harder ?

[@fulge0903]

AN-X update pls

[@UberDistortion]

Must have "heavy duty grade" knobs, sliders & touchscreen LCD if it's applied as DJ performing

[@DragosStefan]

🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

plug and play like as a vsti bro?

[@S91761]

They could've come with 49keys modx instead of this.

[@niikeyz1754]

how do I change sustain pedal polarity?

[@Jason75913]

If it is possible, it will be in Global/System settings, whichever it is called in MODX

[@yurynovikov4758]

It's Dom playing! Those are his hands!😃👍

[@ramim.5856]

Thanks for the player and Yamaha So Great Keyboard sounds!

[@philipjoshua274]

Noice!!! 😎👌👍

[@junvervasig]

all i can do is dream :D :D another awesome device!

[@usuarioanonimo7165]

P series?

[@utkrishtkeys855]

When it will be available in Indian yamaha plss telll

[@grproteus]

WHAT NEW IS THERE TO WARRANT THE 30% PRICE INCREASE?

[@joaquinruiz3039]

I'm going to buy the yamaha MODX7, but I don't know whether to buy the MODX7 or MODX7+, what do I do?

[@ErraticFaith]

7+ for potential expansion. The 7 is a great board and is worth it for anyone, the 7+ just gives you more room. Which for what most of the users want, is a great thing to have.

[@pianokeyjoe]

Synthesizer commercials! They're the best!!

[@YoshimusicLive]

Just a minor upgrade to the "old" MODX in my opinion. Just a step closer to the montage, but I see no need to upgrade...

[@Jason75913]

very right

[@khawk2012]

Awesome!!!...

[@evolopterus]

Somewhat of a "meh" update compared to the original MODX line. Which is fine, because I have a MODX and see no rush to upgrade. And hopefully firmware updates will keep on coming for the MODX.

[@classicarcadeamusementpark4242]

@@darrenhirst9900 At least you don't have to worry about the new model having obsoleted your MODX. Barely any difference at all except a ram upgrade.

[@joshuaswannmusic6462]

Best product showcase I’ve seen in a very long time. Can’t wait till my MODX+6 Arrives!

[@tharaganathm5269]

Are the keys are resistive?

[@antm1065]

+ Aftertouch!?🎹? yes or no? 🙄

[@williamshaneblyth]

its the same price as old one montage has aftertouch and look at the price jump

[@kiskadar69]

No.

[@azartrus]

This is great but makes me wonder is the montage really now worth double the price of the modx+ ?

[@woodyforrest313]

yes.

[@13Sala13]

yes

[@classicarcadeamusementpark4242]

It never was, unless the better keyboard was that important to you.

[@woodyforrest313]

@@classicarcadeamusementpark4242 digital to analog converters are better. montage sounds better.

[@SauvikRoy]

Great demo Yamaha! At least I'm going to get one as soon as it becomes available!

[@3by2youRreal]

Why everybody hatred 80s. Sound….its suffer for me

[@Wagoo]

何！？

[@holygospelimpact7363]

Thank you for creating tNice tutorials playlist in soft soft, just starting out in soft production and there is so much to learn

[@frankr7239]

Which keyboard is best for studio recording with daw engine built in I own a Geno's but willing to try other Yamaha's like modx.whata the diff of an arranger and syth

[@Wagoo]

An arranger keyboard is primarily designed for playing awful sounding cheesy covers at the local bingo hall. A synthesizer is for exploring sound and making _new_ amazing sounds

[@EJBarrois]

Same keybed? BUMMER!

[@kar0lak790]

In the 2nd lockdown

[@김주현-i1s]

도대체 뭐가 바뀐 거지?

[@doublebabba]

The only argument to buy a crap like modx/montage is the price. My MODX 8 is such a miserable machine...

[@bigbeurs]

LMFAO good one

[@IamCarlFree]

You mean to tell me you couldn’t come out with an upgrade to the current operating system for us current MODX users to get these new features. I’m upset.

[@13Sala13]

I would guess Montage and current MODX will get an update soon. However there is only so much current MODX hardware is capable of.

[@williamshaneblyth]

ram upgrade and probably a second chip or how else would you double FM polyphony

[@artie218]

yeah, you cant add memory as a software upgrade, it just makes people who have a modx feel like they got a cheaper machine but the price is the same but theres not enough new there at all to want to upgrade.. so its really for new buyers who because they waited will get a better machine than you did.. nice.

[@lumer2b]

You want to download extra RAM?

[@marcobassini3576]

The extra sample flash ROM was/is already there in the MODX. Both MODX and Montage have the same 4 GBytes chip in them (2.3 Gb used for factory samples, 1.7 Gb free for user samples). In the MODX they disabled via software 0.7 Gb (to commercially differentiate it from Montage). Now they flipped a switch in the firmware and enabled the whole 1.7 Gb also in the MODX+. If they wanted they could release a firmware update and enable it also in the original MODX. I suspect that also the 64 FMX polyphony in the original MODX was in fact an artificial limitation in firmware. The new MODX+ is actually the same old hardware at 50% + (plus) of the price.