Yamaha Montage M Review // What's new // Poly AT keybed & AN-X explored // M6/M7/M8x Tutorial

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@davlippo7
@davlippo7 11 ай бұрын
Most M videos are "look how good I can play" or only sounds w/no talking or random comments or comparisons etc. but few are this professional and actually help you learn how to do stuff. Thanks Loopop!
@uryic000
@uryic000 3 ай бұрын
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. EVEN THE ALMOST 2INCH THICK OPERATION MANUAL DOES NOT "EXPLAIN HOW" TO DO FUNCTIONS PER SAY BUT MORESO "EXPLAINS WHAT" THE FUNCTIONS ARE. THAT IS ALL FINE AND DANDY BUT EXPLAINING WHAT PRE SUPPOSES THAT YOU ALREADY UNDERSTAND THE UNDERLYING CONCEPTS. THIS IS THE FIRST AND ONLY (SO FAR) VIDEO THAT I HAVE FOUND THAT ACTUALLY EXPLAINS THE WHAT, WHY , AND HOW. EVEN MY BOY DOM'S VIDEOS PRESUPPOSES AREN'T QUITE AS DETAILED AS THIS VID IS. IN ALL FAIRNESS THOUGH I SUPPOSE DOM BEGINS AT AN INTERMEDIATE LEVEL. I SEARCHED AND SEARCHED AND SEARCHED AND THIS IS THE 1ST TIME I'VE HEARD OF THE 3 LEVELS OF A PERFORMANCE. THE PERFOMANCE, THE PART, AND THE ELEMENT. MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW. MOST OF THE OTHER VIDS I'VE SEEN, EVEN YAMAHA PRODUCED VIDS JUST GO ON AND ON DEMONSTRATING THE SOUNDS, WHICH ARE AMAZING. BUT THIS VID TRULY EXPLAINS HOW TO EDIT SOUNDS, NOW I'VE GOT TO SEARCH (SOME MORE) FOR A VID THAT SHOWS HOW TO USE THE MONTAGE M WITH CUBASE 13 PRO. HAVEN'T FOUND A GOOD ONE YET. ALSO HOW TO USE THE MONTAGE M AS A CONTROLLER FOR MY DAW IN WINDOWS(CUBASE) BY THAT I MEAN A VID AS GREAT AS THIS ONE. EXCUSE THE RANT ON YOUR COMMENT, BUT YOU REALLY NAILED IT AND EXPRESSED EXACTLY HOW I FELT ABOUT OTHER VIDS COMPARED TO THIS ONE.
@kaisabushahin1599
@kaisabushahin1599 10 ай бұрын
this was simply one of the tutorials that got me watching carefully for the whole hour. thank you
@valerys.219
@valerys.219 6 ай бұрын
I read your comment and just realize it was 1 hour and not 30mn. as I initialy thought ! Wow.
@uryic000
@uryic000 3 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY AGREE, ME TOO!!!!
@maurodonnini928
@maurodonnini928 7 ай бұрын
La migliore analisi tecnica del montage M8x che ho visto in rete. Bravo e competente..
@MichaelRohaly
@MichaelRohaly 11 ай бұрын
"The closer shift button would work too." Bless your pickiness. Excellent work as usual.
@JimDaneker
@JimDaneker 11 ай бұрын
FINALLY... been waiting for your review. Amazing there aren't any other pro-level reviews out there! I've had some time on an M8X and it's a stunning machine in so many ways. Can't wait to do a proper review as well. Great to see yours!
@smokey5100
@smokey5100 9 ай бұрын
Maybe we can make a CS-80 synth overlay for the Montage M lol jk but I'm sold on it also. Waiting on my Montage M8X to arrive Monday 🫠
@smokey5100
@smokey5100 9 ай бұрын
Looking forward to that review Jim!
@JimDaneker
@JimDaneker 9 ай бұрын
@@smokey5100 enjoy it!
@von_Apa
@von_Apa 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I just got mine and as a musician with a small tech knowledge it’s fantastic to get your knowledge on youtube! I love the keybed and the presets are great for basic songwriting. I believe this instrument will be in my studio for a long time!
@DoctorRevers
@DoctorRevers 11 ай бұрын
Yamaha is one solid company.
@fouldeathrat
@fouldeathrat 11 ай бұрын
At this price, polyphonic aftertouch is a pretty weird place to skimp on the 6 and 7, considering the Hydrasynth Explorer, Atom SQ, and Microfreak are all throw-away cheap in comparison and all have that feature. The lack of step sequencing (super easy on the much cheaper KeyStep Pro), and 16 voice limit on the VA engine also seem strange at this price point. That said...everything else seems pretty awesome and I kind of want one. XD
@MichaelCoombes776
@MichaelCoombes776 11 ай бұрын
This is the closest thing to a synth 'conspiracy theory' I can think of. Poly AT, like any other tech, could've become cheaper and more common over time and it just.... hasn't, with the exception of the Hydra. Why?
@vangoghsseveredear
@vangoghsseveredear 11 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelCoombes776true. Most of these companies just have not got with the times. They still act like its the 90s. Grooveboxes coming gimped with tiny amounts of ram, samplers not having resampling, synths missing basic features, etc. Im sure it is a market refusing to cheapen thing. How can we sell the 4000 dollar synth if the 800 dollar synth has everything?
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 11 ай бұрын
I so agree. A peculiar choice. Surely there will be many frustrated by this decision, including players who travel their instrument, and that’s a lot of customers.
@CaidicusProductions
@CaidicusProductions 11 ай бұрын
It looks like Yamaha learned a few things from the Hydrasynth, in regards to user interface. Thanks for a fantastic presenation, Loopop.
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 11 ай бұрын
The Hydra-like interface stood out to me too, in a good way.
@saftpackerl
@saftpackerl 10 ай бұрын
There is also some NI Maschine (MK1 Controller) in there...
@drakey82
@drakey82 9 ай бұрын
My friend is a super Knob!😊 Ordered mine, 3 more days. Can't wait.
@renmad0078
@renmad0078 11 ай бұрын
An amazing musical production machine it's a dream engine. Thank you a lot for this deep video 🙏👍😉
@caydilemma3309
@caydilemma3309 11 ай бұрын
Honestly shout out to ASM for bringing poly aftertouch back into the mainstream, without the Hydrasynth I'm not sure if we would have all these poly AT synths and keyboards coming out nowadays!
@dankeplace
@dankeplace 11 ай бұрын
Behringer had their PAT keybed finished in 2019, I wouldn't say that ASM deserves anything, PAT keybeds have been around for an eternity. A ton of synths respond to PAT too.
@MichaelRohaly
@MichaelRohaly 11 ай бұрын
It seems to me that there's a little bit of them in the UI too.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 9 ай бұрын
The credit should go to Arturia and their Microfreak, which gave everyone a different synth with PAT for a reasonable price while other companies keep charging a premium for the feature.
@MichaelRohaly
@MichaelRohaly 9 ай бұрын
@@BrunodeSouzaLino No.
@cornerliston
@cornerliston 11 ай бұрын
Good thing: the touch screen reacts to touch very fast (compare to e.g. the Neumann MT48 interface touch screen which is really slow.) Although Yamaha would really benefit from increasing their UX/GUI team's skills*. There's plenty to do in this to make it much more intuitive and user friendly. * Or having the chief product officer let the UX/GUI team have enough time/budget to use their skills.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 9 ай бұрын
It's strange that Korg and Yamaha want to enthuse us with those touch screen interfaces but can't even allow themselves to be less greedy and give us a big capacitive touch screen when those are dirt cheap nowadays. Or give us the capacity to plug an external display, keyboard and mouse. When you consider the size of the display on the Korg OASYS, Korg only went the downgrade way for the Kronos and Nautilus.
@uryic000
@uryic000 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you 1000 times more. this is the 1st video I've seen that thoroughly explains performance layer, part layer, and elements level and the organization and set up of the construction of performances. I get it now. Thanks new subscriber here too.
@NicoVlemmings
@NicoVlemmings 3 ай бұрын
Wow this whas a great demo of the Montage M I ordered mine before this review but this helps a lot thanks !
@_c_y_p_3
@_c_y_p_3 10 ай бұрын
You could for the sake of standardization of a description compare the aftertouch to the feeling of Novation aftertouch because they use Fatar keybeds which are used on quite a few brands. There is a list online.
@josefsaint
@josefsaint 10 ай бұрын
hahaha this ui is so natural coming from cs1x -> tg33-> dx7II -> sy77 yamaha rules!!
@trstack
@trstack 11 ай бұрын
As always, incredible, in depth yet simple overview of a very complex instrument. FYI - there are two (2) shift buttons so you don’t have to reach across (2:51) there’s one right under the superknob that would have been faster…
@loopop
@loopop 11 ай бұрын
Yes I use the left one quite a lot in the video but sometimes forget…
@trstack
@trstack 11 ай бұрын
I’ve had my M8x for a few weeks and your video has already helped me better understand the structure/workflow. Thank you!@@loopop
@groovedealermusic
@groovedealermusic 9 ай бұрын
Ordered my M7 already in Nov. and should arrive in March. Hope, it's worth the wait.
@johnmax5652
@johnmax5652 11 ай бұрын
YAMAHA IS THE KING AT OPERATING SYSTEMS ALWAYS
@wreckage-vs5jv
@wreckage-vs5jv 7 ай бұрын
Yeah sure and that includes the fully washable totally incomprehensible original DX7
@johnmax5652
@johnmax5652 7 ай бұрын
@@wreckage-vs5jv 1980's OS ??? NO COMPUTERS...
@kokakolagodcomp-vi2yv
@kokakolagodcomp-vi2yv Ай бұрын
remember typhoon os?
@winddealer1
@winddealer1 9 ай бұрын
The M series VCM Rotary Effects are now at parity with the improved VCM Rotary Effects found on the YC Stage series.
@zdravkodimitrov
@zdravkodimitrov 11 ай бұрын
If Yamaha make a multitimbral synth with only the new engine and at a reasonable price, they'll have a big winner.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 11 ай бұрын
MODX? It is a best seller already.
@zdravkodimitrov
@zdravkodimitrov 11 ай бұрын
@@Jason75913 just an ANX synth
@rz9wb
@rz9wb 7 күн бұрын
Yea agreed.
@rz9wb
@rz9wb 7 күн бұрын
@@Jason75913modx has a sequencer and extra features does it not?
@rz9wb
@rz9wb 7 күн бұрын
@@Jason75913the market is in desperate need for a modern multitambral synth without all the sequencer features. Still browsing and playing on the synth but sequencing in DAW. I don’t wanna play $5K for sequencer+other hype features. Just need presets and possibly filter midi sends/receives. But also, boards already sound so far behind what we can get with VSTs which is insane to me lol. Why spend $5K if the VSTs sound twice as rich?
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 11 ай бұрын
The new Montage does so many things, even a brief high-level outline of the feature set takes an hour.
@leticiabraun2909
@leticiabraun2909 5 ай бұрын
We need that weighted action/ polyphonic aftertouch in 76 too
@yipmabaruya1148
@yipmabaruya1148 11 ай бұрын
Good morning from Papua New Guinea. I enjoyed watching your contents
@sawssman965
@sawssman965 10 ай бұрын
That thing sounds absolutely brilliant! It's a shame I'm just barely getting a modx+, but imma be happy wit that bih. I suppose this'll serve as a motivational pipe dream for me.
@connor_flanigan
@connor_flanigan 11 ай бұрын
you can't drag a slider/knob on the screen to move it? you could do that on the Korg trinity from 1997. 🤔
@MeerkatMuzic
@MeerkatMuzic 11 ай бұрын
Good to see your back ❤
@johnkruton9708
@johnkruton9708 8 ай бұрын
I just watched your 5 year old MODX8 review with very detailed look at how to do things and at the end your comments about aftertouch and that it wasn’t a Montage. I am still a beginner as I bought a Alesis QS8 in 1999 and still think it’s Quadratic sound is exactly like the OBX the EVH used in Jump. So I really don’t want to spend $4500 on a new keyboard but I’m not happy with trying to use MIDI with my older MacBook Pro and dealing with the QS8 as a controller only. It is a heavy beast and obviously is very limited in what it can do. I want the knobs and hands on buttons and in looking at the Korg Nautilus they’ve removed most knobs and easier to use things and dumped it into a small screen. IMHO dumb. I really want to be able to hook up an external LCD monitor of a given size but I’m sure nobody puts that into keyboards. Old men with money have eyesight that isn’t as robust as 20 years ago. Lol. So your review will probably just mean I dedicate some savings and some overtime work to earn the cash to get the last keyboard I’ll buy.
@wilcandou
@wilcandou 11 ай бұрын
What a great review... nicely done!😊
@ajotech
@ajotech 11 ай бұрын
Yaaaaaaaay thank you Loopop!!!
@Rollur1234
@Rollur1234 11 ай бұрын
In a euphorian world i can play and afford this Loopop ❤
@loopop
@loopop 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s quite a price tag - hopefully they release the MODX version at some point
@Rollur1234
@Rollur1234 11 ай бұрын
@@loopop fix my payment youtube says. I say fix my videos volume and ok.
@Rollur1234
@Rollur1234 11 ай бұрын
@@loopop i am deleting myself if they dont fix my tracks volume #youtube
@Rollur1234
@Rollur1234 11 ай бұрын
@@loopop my master is all red and i cant hear ####
@Rollur1234
@Rollur1234 11 ай бұрын
@@loopop sorry ive had 2 beers and fired up Loopop❤️
@JamesLangston-ru2ei
@JamesLangston-ru2ei 9 ай бұрын
I been using Yamaha keys in my home studio Jaime parks production from the 90s til now
@ursullavandenbord2322
@ursullavandenbord2322 11 ай бұрын
Will you review FANTOM EX ? Would be cool as your reviews are THE BEST ! Thanks.
@VistaMinistry
@VistaMinistry 5 ай бұрын
Great video!!! Convinced me to pull the trigger on the MM6. I'm hoping with the lighter weight it will be more practical for gigs although the synth action is not conducive for AP & EP...
@markquavertune2003
@markquavertune2003 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the very good overview .Yes it is a cliffhanger ! So i will stay tuned for the episode " When Montage gets infused with Cubase .It would be good if the Montage had the chord track as is in Cubase .
@noitnova
@noitnova 9 ай бұрын
Again a nice clear review. Im thinking to sell my Nautilus and MODX te buy this beast. The Nautilus is a drama to work well in Cubase. Keep up the good work mate. 👍
@davlippo7
@davlippo7 11 ай бұрын
I noticed another big item that's very important, not sure you covered it or sorry I might have missed it. The improved PAC coupled with the improved AMW2 bit depth combined for noticeable upgraded voicing. I don't happen to have both versions side by side but some have said it's a considerable improvement over the original. I've also heard some say they had to push really hard to activate PAT and so they returned their M8x. If you pull up the PAT page and play with the ratio it really jumps out. The stock PAT voices have it extremely subtle but that's just the way it was programmed. It's actually very customizable including sensitivity curve options as well.
@dreamstaticsounds
@dreamstaticsounds 11 ай бұрын
$3500 for the 61 key model, obviously the cheapest one, and they couldn't even bother to give it poly aftertouch...
@FerdinandMunga
@FerdinandMunga 3 ай бұрын
Very good
@iblackfeathers
@iblackfeathers 9 ай бұрын
what these companies should do is make a tablet-based touch display dock that runs off apps and controllable/programmable instead of having to reinvent the wheel on every model iteration. focus more on the piano keyboard, the physical knobs, sliders, pads and switches, connections, and the strengths of what can do while interfacing what most already use in the form of a common tablet.
@ZeroG
@ZeroG 11 ай бұрын
Can you also explain a Soviet-era nuclear submarine? They're less complex By far this is the best video on Montage, BTW. Excellent job. What do you think of the filter on AN-X vs. the true analog filter on Roland?
@loopop
@loopop 11 ай бұрын
I tried, the navy won't let me borrow one
@jazz734
@jazz734 11 ай бұрын
Thank You! Best Tutorial on KZbin.
@jimhewes7507
@jimhewes7507 11 ай бұрын
I guess no time to mention the addition of the leslie simulator and reverse faders for organ. That's OK, I was aware of those already anyway. I was disappointed there are not nine faders to accommodate the drawbars. Something I still don't know about the Montage M (and original Montage) is how it handles nine drawbars with only eight faders. Does one fader do double duty?
@CharlesFerraro
@CharlesFerraro 11 ай бұрын
Did they update the original montage to include the new organ engine?
@jimhewes7507
@jimhewes7507 11 ай бұрын
@@CharlesFerraro No. I just meant that the original Montage also used its eight faders as drawbars since it had a preset called All 9 Bars. And I didn't know how that worked either. There isn't really an organ engine. There are just organ samples and a leslie simulator. Though I'm not sure what you might call an organ engine. The Korg Kronos CX-3 engine generates the organ tones and you can call that an engine. But I believe the Hammond clonewheels are based on samples. At least my Hammond XK-3c is. So maybe the Montage qualifies as an "engine" as well.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 11 ай бұрын
9th drawbar is on the touchscreen
@lumer2b
@lumer2b 9 ай бұрын
One of the 8 assignable knobs was used for the last drawbar
@cy9105
@cy9105 6 ай бұрын
Such a cool workstation! An OLED display would have been nicer for the long display, though.
@mossgraber
@mossgraber 11 ай бұрын
Great video and first one which clearly shows how it works and the pro/cons! Would love to switch to a workstation for live work and get rid of the laptop solution but there is always a drawback. If the plugin really works and has no stupid limitations (copy-protection or cloud like with Roland) this could make me jump aboard. However, as you also mention in the end, the high end Yamaha weighs a ton and the downsized versions look and feel dirt cheap.
@loopop
@loopop 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! I agree that the MODX versions have a cheaper feel, but they're as light as a MIDI keyboard and have all the sounds of the Montage (previous version for now)
@mossgraber
@mossgraber 11 ай бұрын
@@loopop Yes, would totally love to see a MODX with a more decent keybed and a nicer look (like the MOXF for example).
@craigbarnes8000
@craigbarnes8000 11 ай бұрын
I just got the M8X. I've been learning it for a few days. Its going to take me a month of rewatching this video to fully absorb everything you showed here. Truly excellent info! How long did you work with it before releasing this video?
@loopop
@loopop 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! A couple of weeks, but I was familiar with the workflow overall because I have a MODX, so don't feel bad, it takes a while!
@pontram
@pontram 11 ай бұрын
An interesting question in terms of evolution would be, if the new version does recall its state before it was switched off ? I mean, this is a computer, and it should be able to write a small file describing which patch or combi it currently uses. Lemondrop can do it. M3 can do it. Also Jd-xi and Micro-x, and Miniak, IIRC. But the OG Modx can not.
@etherity
@etherity 11 ай бұрын
Wish I could afford the M8X so much.
@davlippo7
@davlippo7 11 ай бұрын
Nice job as always. I will respectfully disagree on the PAT. 46 years since CS80 and Vangelis said you don't actually have a real instrument until you have PAT on it. He is well respected since I'm an unknown so I refer to his comment concerning PAT. No player can make a synth speak unless they use a fixed motion program or remove their hands from the keys or use a pedal/switch that typically effects all notes sounding. Not that PAT is a new invention but it's revolutionary with respect to this type digital music synth. There are others with MPE & PAT but not to this scale on a flagship synth with multiple engines. Try PAT on AWM2 to detune EPs etc. it's so realistic because that's how acoustic instruments behave. Marching bands sound unique because every player is slightly out of tune and it varies from note to note in real time. It's actually a fundamental character of real instruments, not a flaw. Fixed, perfectly in tune, on/off notes are kind of like a computer playing them instead of real humans. It's mostly a characterless sound no matter how nice a timbre it has. For example the Osmose isn't an authentically sampled instrument yet because it has character and expression it's far more interesting to listen to and play than a pure AWM2 voice. AWM2 says (na, NA, na, Na, na) but PAT /MPE says (Na-oh, na-eh, na-ya, na-ye, na-ro..infinity). Not even close to boring, dead on/off switched sounds. If someone thinks that's not a big deal if not revolutionary I don't understand their thinking. It's like saying a McDonald's hamburger is similar to a filet minion steak. This is why Guitar players stand on the front edge of the stage and keyboard is in the back. True those aren't as portable but think about the solo aspect or a Saxophone in the 80s. The sax and guitar can bend notes, vibrate, detune and modulate which is what people want to hear. It's all about real time expression.
@loopop
@loopop 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! I guess I don't place a high value as you on the expressive capabilities of PAT as it's implemented on most current keybeds because I've been spoiled by instruments like the Continuum and Osmose - where you get substantial physical travel on pressure, unlike the 1 or 2 mm on most modern PAT implementations. Of course, PAT here is great compared to not having any at all.
@wreckage-vs5jv
@wreckage-vs5jv 7 ай бұрын
The 88 keys version multiplies the fun times million.
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 11 ай бұрын
The Yamaha Montage M8 88 Key Synthesizer is retailing for (AU)$6,999 in Australia.
@FrankPSF
@FrankPSF 10 ай бұрын
Man I bet your studio looks like Jay Leon’s garage by now.
@DrivenCrane1
@DrivenCrane1 11 ай бұрын
I got M7. It worth exploring!
@Curious_Skeptic
@Curious_Skeptic 9 ай бұрын
After so much time shopping for my next workstation, I have to say Roland, Korg, Akai, all are not impressing me. All have some good stuff, but Yamaha seems to be running away with the ball! Two screens? Really nice layout. Far more abilities! M8X is so beautiful. Price though, up to Nord Stage 4! Decisions decisions.
@dankeplace
@dankeplace 11 ай бұрын
Insert "we're gonna need a Montage montage"
@loopop
@loopop 11 ай бұрын
That's actually what I wanted to call the outro but there wasn't enough room for "Montage preset montage" on screen...
@dankeplace
@dankeplace 11 ай бұрын
@@loopop lol, great minds!!!!
@wizmos74
@wizmos74 11 ай бұрын
Great detailed review. Thank you very much
@PFB4k
@PFB4k 14 күн бұрын
amazing review as always... personally I am not sure of who's the target audience for these monster keyboards... I mean if you know how to play you don't need all those baked-in 'snippets', and if you want to go deep into constructing something to an atomic level you would probably go software based? But maybe live performers need all this... not judging, just trying to figure it out....
@loopop
@loopop 14 күн бұрын
thanks! set the monster issue aside because there are versions of this which are lighter and have fewer keys, the idea is to be able to grab and go and have any sound you can imagine with you, that works reliably and in one box (without a computer, etc)
@PFB4k
@PFB4k 14 күн бұрын
@@loopop yes soundwise it's definitely a powerhouse, I was more thinking about all the chords/arp generations etc..but probably they developed those ages ago and carry it on...
@JunkSoap
@JunkSoap 4 ай бұрын
I already have a modX... I really think there was too much of a difference in price to go for the OG Montage... Just not worth spending that much of extra cash... But MontageM came out and after watching this video, I seriously consider upgrading...
@DawlessHouseMusic
@DawlessHouseMusic 11 ай бұрын
I see you getting some jazz funk licks in.
@scpedicini
@scpedicini 6 ай бұрын
It's *really* difficult to find a good light-feeling quality semiweighted keybed these days. Either they have so much resistance that they're going to give you tendonitis (AKAI MPK line), or they have randomly hot keys meaning velocity isn't calibrated evenly between white and black keys (the NI Kontrol S-series quality control needs some serious retooling). The Montage M6/M7 is by far the best semiweighted action I've ever played on. Try pushing your finger up the board even on the black keys - it doesn't require much more force to depress the key even at the absolute top. I didn't think I've find a semiweight action that could compare and exceed some of the better Fatar actions (TP/80 waterfall comes to mind on some of the Nords), but this is it. And look it only took a mere three grand to get there. Fantastic.
@nickademuss42
@nickademuss42 11 ай бұрын
WIle I love it, I would rather have the Moog Siren sitting on your shelf :)
@anilsia1962
@anilsia1962 4 ай бұрын
Best vedio for Montage M.
@jona_KardCiv1
@jona_KardCiv1 11 ай бұрын
Wow, that is a lot going on under one hood.
@Rollur1234
@Rollur1234 11 ай бұрын
Nice ❤❤❤ faders and macros! King Yam yam
@ajotech
@ajotech 11 ай бұрын
Looks like a stealth bomber so hi tech and military love it!
@tedtedsen269
@tedtedsen269 6 ай бұрын
that poly effect is so nice but technics kn7000 had it 22 years ago when yamaha didn't on tyros 1 even to day genos 2 dosent have it i play genos 2
@smokey5100
@smokey5100 9 ай бұрын
Very nice but where is multi-timbral mode?
@loopop
@loopop 9 ай бұрын
Every part can be a different timbre/layer/split - 8 parts in total (16 if you count the MIDI parts)
@smokey5100
@smokey5100 9 ай бұрын
Oh I see. I appreciate the response and keep up the great work on these reviews!
@CharlesFerraro
@CharlesFerraro 11 ай бұрын
Damnnnn they added a VA? Yamaha and Steinberg offer very powerful technologies.
@jk-pl8cl
@jk-pl8cl 3 ай бұрын
Curious on your professional opinion, if you had to reach for the Montage or Fantom EX, which would you or…..at that price bracket would you go down a different route,,,, BTW I truly enjoy the breakdowns you do on your videos keep up the amazing work, also your book is GREAT
@loopop
@loopop 3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for the kind words! I didn't want to ignore your comment but I truly believe what I'd choose would be irrelevant to you, because it's about which set of features and overall sound fits you vs which fits me - that's why I make these long videos - to share everything I know so you can decide. Luckily, no choice is wrong as both are very capable.
@l2etranger
@l2etranger 10 ай бұрын
6:15 that’s the next update once oled is virtually free, in that part of the world.
@EliveltonFagundesF
@EliveltonFagundesF 7 ай бұрын
I miss some pads on the keyboard, by the way those keyboards should not have limited polyphony, they are so expensive to have a "limit", it feels like you have to adapt your setup to work with the instrument instead of the opposite, you're paying a huge amount of money, it should have some more options.
@axs203
@axs203 9 ай бұрын
It's really nice looking. It baffles me though how you can design a flagship synth like this and not let people drag values via a touchscreen. Didn't the Korg Trinity let you do this 25 years ago?
@madness8556
@madness8556 2 ай бұрын
It's a very powerful instrumental, but Yamaha should hsve also aided their YC Organ engine.
@wreckage-vs5jv
@wreckage-vs5jv 7 ай бұрын
Did Yamaha change to selling Montage thru agencies exclusively? So it's not available at your favorite store?
@juanfelipeblanco4928
@juanfelipeblanco4928 9 ай бұрын
Good demonstration congratulations, I just bought the Montage M8 but I feel that it is very heavy to touch and I feel that it has a little latency, do you had the same feel?
@loopop
@loopop 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! No, I don't feel any latency. The keys are heavy and weighted relative to synth action keybeds for sure. As I mention in the video, my friend who is a very good level pianist feels the keys are very much like those on a real piano.
@DcmIn001
@DcmIn001 9 ай бұрын
Great video, however I noticed that in Montage M per part, you can only split the keyboard up to 8 layers (or zones) instruments. So... I didn't understand at all if I can split the layers like in the Roland Fantom where I can split the keyboard by scene into up to 16 zones 🤔
@loopop
@loopop 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! parts 9-16 are only controllable via MIDI, or, with the keyboard if you set them to the active track. You can also create many more splits and layers using elements
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 9 ай бұрын
But then you're gonna have to use a Fantom, which is still full of issues.
@dude65535
@dude65535 11 ай бұрын
Nice. Is sound switching the same as old montage? I suggested to Yamaha they allow A-B-A-C switching to sustain pad A while switching B then C to solo. :-) (Old montage cuts A when you switch back to A from B even if B is silent and A still playing).
@loopop
@loopop 11 ай бұрын
Yes, it's the same, however, with 128 elements instead of 8 per AWM2 part, you just might be able to program everything you need in one performance with mutes/splits/scenes etc
@Eurystheas
@Eurystheas 9 ай бұрын
When will they add again a vl engine! Am I the only one who worships Yamaha for that ??? Ok for the analog ok for the fm synthesis.. But Physical modeling synthesis is wonderful..so tired from all these sample playback engines.. I think korg in their next flagship should also put the z1 engine or an evolution… I really miss vl1 and z1.😢
@Cringing_Cranium
@Cringing_Cranium 3 ай бұрын
Yup good video, but for that much money for an iteration in programming do you think they could have included a 15" touch screen? Is that tiny little you are here pin more visible in person than in the video? I didn't see it until you pointed to it.
@loopop
@loopop 3 ай бұрын
There are two screens, and they're OK IMHO (though of course bigger would always be better)
@valuemastery
@valuemastery 11 ай бұрын
Where is the 9th drawbar on the organs, since there are only 8 faders?
@BananasananaB
@BananasananaB 6 ай бұрын
I'd love a rompler style VST software with these engines. I have no desire to spend 3 grand on a hardware keyboard when I just want the sounds in a software format.
@superultrathanksmom3845
@superultrathanksmom3845 11 ай бұрын
Is there any modern VST that has a full library of multisample that's on this level? I know that Omnisphere exists but are there any more? Would be awesome to have something like AWM as a plug-in
@NicholasBryantBonzaiSequoias
@NicholasBryantBonzaiSequoias 11 ай бұрын
Try Unify by Plugin Guru - allows many similar funtions (with your own VSTs as well!). It allows for many layers, patterns etc. Not quite as smooth in workflow terms.. but VERY flexible.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 9 ай бұрын
Nexus.
@dmcgwhisper5945
@dmcgwhisper5945 23 күн бұрын
Seems very complicated. Can different effects be applied to different elements of each patch/performance ?
@JKVisFX
@JKVisFX 11 ай бұрын
From what I have seen in these videos, it looks like the UI has some inconsistencies and odd limitations that make no sense given that this synth is essentially software running on a very capable, very playable hardware platform. Things I would like to see in future versions of the software: a wavetable synth engine, and a granular synth engine; sampling capability; the ability to use an external SSD or card as additional user space for samples and all other user data. A future hardware update I would love to see is an iPad-sized, capacitive touch screen and/or the ability to use an iPad as its screen. What I am really hoping for is that Yamaha makes the upcoming software synth be made available for purchase by non owners of a hardware Montage.
@judddredd8617
@judddredd8617 11 ай бұрын
Just buy a MPC key 61 and get all that and a much better sequencer
@caseytator2264
@caseytator2264 10 ай бұрын
Could u do a tutorial on how to use all 16 parts in a single performance plz?
@loopop
@loopop 10 ай бұрын
As far as I remember you can only control parts 9-16 using MIDI, or when you're editing that part
@UFO-Ark
@UFO-Ark 10 ай бұрын
That's how it is in the MODX too.
@borututuforte
@borututuforte 11 ай бұрын
looks fun, but that's just too expensive
@DanielNicuCretu-ys9vq
@DanielNicuCretu-ys9vq 4 ай бұрын
Yamaha se intoarce la AN ..DX dar uita de sequencerul care la facut faimos ........ ce pacat ....a pierdut o parte dintr-o categorie de pasionati .Daca ar include sequencerul din seria QY 300..700 SY ...maine ar fi al meu........asa..... astept ....poate yamaha ar intelege din nou termenul de workstacion!!!!!❤
@Keyboardnut99
@Keyboardnut99 11 ай бұрын
Shame there is no stock anywhere in the uk , looks like a great product if they were available. I had a montage and a modx but got rid of both , the weight of this monster puts me off as i play live!
@followyourpassion8378
@followyourpassion8378 22 сағат бұрын
Please help: Which FM-X patch equals the AWM2 patch "Galaxy DX"? Thank you
@johnpaulpatton9786
@johnpaulpatton9786 11 ай бұрын
After this video, you may be called upon, from the future, to do instructional videos for use of the Enterprise Bridge consoles.
@loopop
@loopop 11 ай бұрын
That's what I call a five year mission
@Skechi
@Skechi 10 ай бұрын
great vid
@aatreya
@aatreya 9 ай бұрын
How does the polyphonic aftertouch on this keybed compare to the Native Instruments S88 mk3?
@loopop
@loopop 9 ай бұрын
Very similar
@smilingscottsman
@smilingscottsman 5 ай бұрын
I found a Yamaha Montage M6 for about $130 so I bought it from a store that was going out of business. I had to watch a few videos before I bought it. I've always wanted a keyboard but just never bought one. I hope I made a good buying decision.
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile 11 ай бұрын
But can it make a decent espresso?
@UFO-Ark
@UFO-Ark 10 ай бұрын
I have a MODX which is identical hardware to the MODX+. Does anyone know if Yamaha will unlock the FMX polythony to match the MODX+ ??
@CarlosGomes-w3u
@CarlosGomes-w3u 3 ай бұрын
God mornig , este montage M tem o som de strings do Gary numan ? Strings do moog ?
@TheAtomicTom
@TheAtomicTom 11 ай бұрын
And people say the Octatrack is complicated
@phanuel_1986
@phanuel_1986 Ай бұрын
How badly would I want the PAT fearure if i got the M6 instead of the M8X? 😬
@loopop
@loopop Ай бұрын
Isn't that a question only you can answer?
@Kiamusic75
@Kiamusic75 7 ай бұрын
Does it have workstations, like motif?
@miekwavesoundlab
@miekwavesoundlab 5 ай бұрын
I own RM1x. I bought Motif XF because it has a the same 16 Section Pattern sequencer engine with 5 mute memory switches. I was interested in Montage and then Montage M came out. I was interested in Montage M for its AN engine. But I do not see any Pattern Controls on the controller switches. Did Montage M remove 16 Section Patterns? Can I still use my Motif XF patterns on this if I purchase it?
@pittwitt6382
@pittwitt6382 5 ай бұрын
Neeee. Musik und Gerede. Das nervt😒
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