Yamaha Motorcycles are GOING AUTOMATIC... Bikers in Shock

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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:33 Honda E-clutch
1:33 Yamaha's System
3:01 Applications for Use
5:12 MV Agusta Rekluse Clutch
6:04 Accessibility for New Riders
7:37 Off Road Use?
8:28 Final Thoughts

[@yammienoob]

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[@darkherosolidox]

Yammie I have been a returning subscriber for years. He'll this would go back even pass the last 5 years before the give aways. For love of holly shit, put your adds at the end of your videos please. Linus tech tips do that and it works. Just don't wanna see the same old add again and again. Or maybe just make a little blurb. Kinda distraction from the video. Love the content tho. Keep up the hard work

[@ewagner2674]

hey Yammie, i ordered a pair of jeans from your site probably 2-3 months ago and still yet to receive them, I've emailed support with no response more than once and shop app just says can't find a tracking number and hasn't had any activity since close to one month after i ordered. I haven't received any email confirmations from it or any refunds other than the $5 month subscription i have on your site. will you look into this for me please, thank you

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

I just want a GSXR 750

[@dwaynehumex]

Yamaha : makes bad gearboxes Riders : yo your gearboxes suck Yamaha : F you im un-manualing your bike

[@adam346]

logic follows.

[@rapidicus6487]

Yamaha: stocks plummet.

[@literallyhuman5990]

Tbh, the underbone from the 135cc has a very good gearbox. But on the other hand, the clutch is lackluster, its just eh

[@233kosta]

Wait, what's wrong with Yamaha gearboxes? I trained on an MT-07, it was fine.

[@ZeroXSEED]

@@233kosta I don't know about you guys at least in small displacement segment + moped, Yamaha is the king of big 4. Their centrifugals are especially the best (beating Honda cub in their own turf) (does not apply to 300cc and above)

[@oneofnumbers]

Motorcyclists will never want to give up their ability to revbomb in tunnels.

[@johanneswilhelm10]

This man speaks from my soul

[@giosundance5643]

Real

[@drozdforce8853]

laughs in "me smoothly transitioning form a 125 scooter to a automatic r7' :D :D

[@dudleym1956]

​@drozdforce8853 automatic r7 sounds illegal bruh 😂😂😂

[@drozdforce8853]

@@dudleym1956 but at the same time so awesome 🤣

[@alexonthestreet]

When you have a physical problem with your left hand or left foot this kind of stuff is great.

[@ganuvien]

Exactly, and only Honda really has the option.

[@Jackal9405]

​@@ganuvien vfr 1200 with dct is a 💥

[@233kosta]

Or right hand/foot. You can move the throttle & break over to the left if you need to.

[@dhess34]

Or if you don't care about shifting and just want to ride. People legit hated automatic transmissions when they came out ("not real driving"), and now 99%+ of automobiles have automatic transmissions. I hope that in 20 years 95% of bikes will be automatics, and-like cars are today-that some sport bikes where people *want* to shift are still manuals.

[@onerider808]

Make a disabled option, then

[@RedBud315]

Ironically I learned to drive stick shift cars by riding motorcycles first.

[@skiingchickens766]

Same here

[@joeln6861]

I think a lot of us that started out young on minibikes, trailbikes, etc. were riding proper motorcycles by 13-14 before we could legally get into a car, so we learned the clutch and shift, just now use the left foot instead of left hand to drive. I miss my standard sports cars, but getting my kid into the back of my 2 door Mitsubishi eclipse was killing my back as was stop and go traffic killing my left leg....

[@YacolJ]

I was the other way around. Started in a car. Literally jumped on a 250 dirt bike and rode it away.

[@darinmaggard-qo1gi]

Same

[@ericphillips955]

Me tooo!!!!

[@JordensCadet]

Automatic, manual, semi automatic, cvt, chain, belt, shaft, electric, diesel, or solar... The only thing that matters is the fun.

[@mishafran]

Totally agree 👍

[@insiainutorrt259]

so i get to make a choice.... oh wait i DONT! .... try writing things down then maby you can somehow remeber two whole things for more than 1 second

[@MiB0927]

​@@insiainutorrt259 what?

[@samyakchhajed]

Absolutely, and we get that in all of them.

[@HeldIntegral]

I wanna change gears on my bike tho. I get enough auto in the car n it's boring

[@Jasta315]

This actually excites me. I cant squeeze a clutch with my left hand due to a surgery.

[@Mr_Glenn]

Then I truly hope this tech takes off! I hope you can back to riding soon!

[@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443]

Get stronger.

[@Jasta315]

@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 nerve damage doesn't care how big your muscles are... 🤔

[@dmv118]

​@@Jasta315hopefully you regain your strength back to enjoy the manuals again

[@Nine_883]

They already make them so go buy one now.

[@theslowdeathoftheuniverse]

In my country if you do car license on automatic you are not legally allowed to drive stick... I personally think as a brand new biker learning all the mechanics is beneficial for understanding the machine. Yes it's not easy, you will stall, find neutral instead of 2nd gear, coordination and muscle memory will take some time but it will make you more AWARE and conscious rider. The worst thing on the road are people driving cars on "auto pilot" because they are BORED.

[@Strip4Dreezy]

I 100% agree, in my experiences ive foudn that the newer the car the worse the driver bc these cars do so much for the person you dont need to learn much, especially tesla drivers. I live in the bay home of the teslas and their unaware "drviers"

[@KellyDayAdventures]

As soon as quick shifters became popular, it was only a matter of time.

[@shadowsfall42]

They are nice, and its as far as i wanna go with transmission features, i like the ability to use both still idk how id feel if i was forced to use just that or full auto, literally half the fun of the bike is clutch, shifting gears imo

[@Next2Null]

I've never used a quick shifter, but I don't even understand why it's necessary when you can clutchless up/downshift🤷what does it save? You having to blip the throttle? Useless imo

[@SansSentiments]

@@Next2Null full open throtte upshifts on my literbike are the main reason for never wanting to go without one. other than that I concur with your statement and the statement from shadowfall. I do use the clutch a lot, even with QS. I also did not thoroughly enjoy the DCT gearbox on a rental goldwing as shifting by buttons feels indirect and clunky, but GWs are not meant to be driven like that anyways.

[@John_Ridley]

It's funny, I have a Yamaha Tracer with the quickshifter, but I get cleaner upshifts with a slight throttle blip and a touch on the shifter of my 1980 Honda CX500 than with the Yamaha quickshifter. The Yamaha is grabby no matter what, the Honda does clutchless upshifts fantastically.

[@skyline9099]

@@Next2Null It's not necessary, but it IS faster. How much faster is dependent on each rider/bike obviously, but a quickshifter is near instantaneous. I'm not a huge fan of auto blip when riding hard, though, for that reason: on a stock bike with fairly heavy engine braking, instantly dropping to the next gear can upset the bike.

[@lt7367]

In my country (czech republic) the Honda AT is selling about 60%DCT and 40% manual. And it works, i have one and i love it

[@SuperMegaWoofer3000]

interesting, i have a mt09, never ridden an auto bike, might have to go test ride one!

[@lt7367]

Sure mate, it Will be blast, you Will see

[@dhess34]

At this point it's only boomers who are shaking their fist and cursing e-clutches/DCTs. They're the way things are headed, and I'm very happy about that. You're removing a huge number of potential rider errors this way. Also, I know sport bike chads who won't STFU about how bad e-clutches are ... yet have quick shifters/auto-blippers on their bikes. Ok.

[@darkherosolidox]

The only thing more annoying than getting an unskipelable ad from yammie is to get another ad from KZbin right after.

[@ViscountAlbany]

Watch in brave browser, no ads

[@stonesaquatichomes6825]

It's called fast forward. And for the youtube adds. Press the 'i' and then press stop seeing these adds. You're welcome

[@darkherosolidox]

@stonesaquatichomes6825 no shit I didn't know I could fast forward through the add. Btw that's sarcasm.

[@233kosta]

ReVanced 😉

[@HeldIntegral]

Skill issue. Use adblock and fast forward

[@cameronbelton5408]

I'm cool with this, especially with my ankle and knee injuries.

[@mxstylie312]

As a bi-lateral amputee who rides a KX450 at the track, this concept could get me riding on the street. Some people just can't open their mind to something new or different that other people might enjoy or even need.

[@someguy4708]

i hear you, you are right, but i dont think it would be accepatablle if the just went and made all bikes automatic, which i dont think they will but still...p.s at the and who cares bike is bike ride it thats what matters right lol

[@mxstylie312]

@@someguy4708 Right on man, I agree w/you as well, if I had feet and ankles I'd for sure be an something fun w/ a manual gearbox.

[@SongJLikes]

I could see myself having an e-clutch option-esque device on my forever liter bike

[@martyi398]

I have no physical limitations and never thought I would consider owning a DCT bike, although I was looking for a good everyday commuter bike and a weekend tourer, so now I’m a proud owner of a new Honda DCT NC 750x and I’m enjoying it very much, I don’t miss shifting gears through stop and go traffic and sitting at red lights holding the clutch while in gear, just twist throttle and go!

[@mattkierce3871]

Love the classical tunes in background. For some reason it really compliments your vids.

[@lifeofthemachinist]

How come every "real motorcycle rider" that tells me my DCT isn't a "real bike" at gas stations and in parking lots is diving a car? I learned on a DCT, and i can drive a manual car, i just wanted to cut the learning curve down and enjoy riding. Also, i did over 20,000 miles in my first year of riding. Literally went from first time sitting on a bike to 20k ridden in 1 year. I even sold my car. It's about getting out and riding, to each his own in how you prefer to do it. But, that's just an old guy's opinion who doesn't have anything to prove and is secure with my manhood and with who i am.

[@vernonhampton6973]

I have nerve damage in my left leg and needed back surgery because of a work injury, so shifting with my left foot would be a problem of epic proportions. If technology can allow me to have a motorcycle and accommodate my medical issues, I don't give a crap who thinks its a "real bike" or not. Forget fake validations - enjoy the journey, man!

[@dylan_lewis9309]

As a disabled rider I have an Africa Twin DCT, I also added an electronic adaptive shifter to my V4 Streetfighter and CBR1000RR-R. I really like the ease of the DCT on my Africa Twin but when offroad a clutch would actually be nice, I find it much more difficult to get the back end to do what I want with just throttle/power. That being said the DCT is also super nice at slow speed technical stuff when offroading such a heavy bike. I agree, I think the E-Clutch system makes the most sense for introducing new riders to the sport/community while still allowing them to learn how to operate a bike that may not have this feature in the future.

[@greatbigeye2506]

I rode manual bikes for 15 years but am now on my second Honda DCT bike. My hand just can not handle a heavy clutch pull anymore and I’ve found not having to clutch or shift at all to be The Good Life 😊 I like seeing more manufacturers getting on board with auto and semi-auto shifting and clutching technology.

[@GL4SS_20]

The reason the E clutch is so awesome is because it allows for more spirited riding whereas DCT or automatic gearboxes on a motorcycle just do not feel sporty. Especially if Yamaha plans on bringing the automatic to the MT07 class. Who the hell wants to tap buttons on a hooligan bike!? You want to have full control over the gears, and shifting with your foot just makes the rider feel more connected to the bike. Yamaha just needs to copy Honda w the e clutch. It’s kind of crazy..I was shopping between the CB650r, Trident 660 and XSR700. THE CB was my favorite but I didn’t like the LCD screen and that it didn’t have an auto down blipper. Then Honda refreshes it and addresses both of my issues with it plus going a step further adding the option to never use the clutch! I am getting the Gray Cb650r e clutch this summer. Can’t wait!

[@AnkerAngil69]

I recently purchased my first bike and I went with the Honda rebel 1100 DCT, I had never ridden on a motorcycle before and even after the beginner safety course I still felt awkward and uncomfortable trying to coordinate the clutch/throttle and shift properly (I blame it on my left side being very “dumb” after only ever driving automatics). But it’s a great bike, I love it, I’m getting used to riding in traffic and I’m already looking at follow-on bikes like a Harley or Indian.

[@Turnipstalk]

Getting rid of manual transmissions is an intermediate step towards electrification. (Old British trials singles had a big flywheel - needed it - and you basically used the clutch as if it was a torque converter over the tricky bits. It was easy and cheap to rebuild the clutch, a two hour job at most. Everything comes around again.)

[@protonjicari5990]

The reason why I quit riding is the addiction stress on my wrist. I don’t want scooter as well to ride. The reason is we live in different times now versus the past, traffic is becoming heavier, there are just more now.

[@DeerDrinksBeer]

motorcycles going automatic means we can do faster highway pulls on our turbo hayabusas

[@yammienoob]

🧠🧠

[@EmperorProtects4848]

Hey cool stuff. I drive a stick shift car (as most people still do in germany) and bike but honestly, as I get older I just appreciate the ease of use especially in a daily driver situation.

[@Scape974]

I'm from Europe, I learned to drive with a clutch, for car and bike, but the second you give the choice to go Automatic you know I will! City roads and such in Europe is stupid AF, swapping between 2nd and 3rd gear every 10sec for an hour is boring and gets me tired. That's why I actually swap to a Scooter right now, much more comfortable, sitting and driving. So I'm actually glad they start to include automatic to bikes, just do both, manual one for people that want, automatic for the others

[@thebrowns5337]

I learnt manual for both cars and bikes. Drove manual cars for 24 years then got a DCT - never going back. It's smoother, quicker, more efficient and way more relaxing. I want a bike with e-clutch so I can get almost all of those benefits but still rev bomb for fun!

[@233kosta]

I find Honda's e-clutch really tasteful. You get an up & down quickshifter without having to give up the cable throttle. There is literally no downside. They also sell DCT bikes. Have done for a while. Haven't canceled a manual model in favour of a DCT yet.

[@peterclaydon9782]

I have a Yamaha XT660R that I put a YZF450 Rekluse clutch in... the clutch is full auto until you pull the clutch lever and it instantly becomes manual again... Don't touch the clutch lever it stays as an auto clutch.. use the clutch lever and it becomes a manual clutch.. "Its like a big Honda CT110/125 Trail Cub now."

[@L4ND.SH4RK]

Woo! What's better than being a fastboi? Doing it effortlessly!!

[@miniwarlord68]

Yammie... I rode a '76 Hondamatic once back in the late 80s. It was a little weird to get used too.

[@thebrowns5337]

Honda e-clutch shows they are light years ahead of Yamaha. They even have a self-balancing prototype bike. They put IMU on their 125 naked! Other manufacturers need to try harder.

[@kp4697]

I’m glad bikes are going Automatic because I am a amputee missing my right hand and an automatic helps me get on two wheels so now, if more manufacturers are making more automatics, that means I got more of a selection. I currently have a rebel 1100 DCT so it helps being automatic

[@Ephem13]

I'm a huge fan of the Rekluse Clutch system.

[@thomasolander159]

I'm 48. When I started driving cars in the early 90s I only drove manual transmission. I thought of myself as pretty skilled and felt that the manual transmission made the driving experience more complete. I still love a manual transmission, but unless you're driving a sports car or commercial-level truck, it's hard to find. I think the same is going to happen to motorcycles.

[@dhess34]

I'm all for sport-oriented bikes having an optional manual transmission, but 99% of riders would benefit from some form of automatic transmissions on their bikes. 20 years from now I hope automatics are on 95% of bikes.

[@ptcarino]

i like Honda's e-clutch better. as someone who plans on getting in to motorcycles, i wanted to develop muscle memory in shifting gears when getting started (i can already drive manual on a car) and still have the ability to be lazy and just flick my foot to change gears later on.

[@dhess34]

Why. Did you teach yourself morse code before you stated texting? There's no point in 'learning' a dead technology when progress has passed it by.

[@strubbleler]

automatic? finally, what i honestly have been asking for for years! i cant be bothered doing any shifting!

[@bradycarlucci4872]

I ride a DCT Africa Twin off road. The bikes weight has been more of an issue for. Not having to be in the friction zone on difficult terrain is nice and I can more or less crawl at a lower speed and not have to be too concerned with putting too much power and losing traction, but totally agree the Africa Twin is not intended for single track'

[@bluezsb]

Every motorcycle brand should offer an automatic option. I'm surprised its taking this long for other brands besides Honda to evolve for the future.

[@SparkyPeaches]

Being diagnosed with an autoimmune condition like rheumatoid arthritis I now have a new found appreciation for options like these.

[@D.i.n.i.c.h.t.h.y.s]

i test rode the e clutch cb 650 r and its super awesome, huge improvement. greatly appreciate the trend of (semi) automatic introductions

[@dhess34]

Same. Troglodytes scream, 'I want things to stay the same!' ... as the world leaves them in the dust.

[@ZeroXSEED]

E-clutch is NOT automatic. It is semi-automatic with optional manual. It has everything good and nothing bad about manual and semi-auto. It's basically a logical advancement from Super Cub's centrifugal semi-auto, which is limited to 15 horses.

[@loztagain8278]

The e-clutch thing looks good tbh. The only downside imo is the way it looks

[@smelkvik3893]

MVs SCS is amazing. Took a minute to get used to when stopping but a day's worth of riding and I can't understand why the scs or e clutch system isn't in more bikes.

[@naughtyskweet6]

Awesome for city commuting

[@junysempai1135]

I Have a Honda DCT model and i love it, love to hear we are gonna have more options on the market

[@dhess34]

Only people stuck in the past don't see the benefits of e-clutches/DCTs.

[@colvilletitus9408]

The automative world including bikes have transformed to include automatic bikes. We have to understand that as people age, their reflexes to change gear manually will be limited to either injuries or health related reasons. We may not like it but the world has to embrace the changes. Electric vehicles are also on the rise so too are electric bikes. So change is evitable, no getting away from it.

[@romanhwc]

I agree with Yammie. These automatic solutions should be offered to lower cc beginner bikes / riders. They will benefit the most.

[@someguy4708]

not really, if you dont learn from beginning, you wont learn after that. if you can drive manual=you can drive auto but if you can drive auto does not mean you can drive manual. i ride moped but got license on motorcycle if it was opposite boy o boy i would not be able to start bike even(obvious reasons)

[@dhess34]

@@someguy4708 "if you dont learn from beginning, you wont learn after that". And ... who cares? No one *NEEDS* to learn shifting for a car or a motorcycle, it's 2024. You can learn and then have the boomer pride of saying "I can actually manually shift a motorcycle!". No one cares. Technology has rendered your worldview obsolete.

[@someguy4708]

@@dhess34 calm down and have cup of pie

[@killer970116]

In Quebec, they wont let you do your motocycle license exam with an automatic motocycle

[@L4ND.SH4RK]

I started on a 650... I drifted it all the way up the block when I first took it off the truck...

[@Matt7R]

The R7 isn’t supposed to be “effortless” to ride. It’s a sport focussed bike (even though the engine will have you believe otherwise).

[@Noah-ws2mh]

this will definitely make the barrier of entry to bikes lower, for better or worse. I feel like a major issue with this is that if a bike has a full automatic transmission it could cause issues for low speed stuff where the friction zone would be required.

[@f33lgudproductions21]

After extensive riding off-road with the Africa twin DCT. I would very much say the DCT is so easy and fun to use. Off-road. The way the throttle is programmed to very easily take off at low speed or high speed with the DCT in manual or automatic mode. It made hitting the dirt that much easier and something less to worry about. If I feel like I was putting down too much power in a certain position, I would use the rear brake to modulate that power output to help with uneven terrain and rough downhill or uphill. If I go back to a Honda I'm getting another Africa twin DCT

[@jonlough3074]

I have an africa twin dct and it does really well off road. Being able to put it in manual mode and trigger shift is great. It would be even better if it wasn't such a heavy bike, but not stalling lets you focus more on not dropping it.

[@david-johntiemens573]

I love the idea of the e-clutch. I just can’t wrap my mind around cornering without a clutch.

[@ir8d8rads]

Modern quick shifters are pretty much already there. Up/down QS with autoblippers means you only use the clutch from a start or at a stop. Banging upshifts at full throttle and high revs is very cool. No need to perfect fanning the clutch. Hopefully they forego the torque convertor stall type engagement. An e-clutch would take getting used to.

[@jimporter]

The problem is manufacturers keep wanting to make people choose one or the other. In these days of ride by wire and emu controlled quick shifter interrupts and meshing all that is needed is clutch and gear leaver actuators. The ideal would be Honda e-clutch and an electronic gear change. Add buttons on handlebars and a gear pedal that similarly uses micro switches to actuate gear changes and you get a bike that can be manual or automatic, will be useful for those older riders with arthritic hands or those with foot injuries (like me) who can’t use a conventional gear change. Everyone would be happy, but oh no they always have to leave something out.

[@jordanforce2064]

I used to think that automatic would make it less fun, but then I got a PCX. Honestly, I appreciate the convenience of not having to shift gears manually.

[@michielshub]

I think it a nice development. As mentioned, it might bring new people into riding. All the comments about how they will never switch to a (semi)automatic bike are not that relevant. Commenters like us here on this channel are not the rider public in general. Honda is successful with DCT and probably with e-clutch as well. It’s what riders (who do not rev bomb or do wheelies on a daily basis) want.

[@jeremyantunes7022]

I need the end of the video as my alarm clock in thr morning

[@daviddiienno]

I immediately wanted to hate this idea. I bought a new Jeep a couple years ago with the 6 speed manual. I like it off road, but I hate it with the increased local traffic in my area. I only ride for fun, so I'll stick with bikes with clutch levers. Maybe I'll change my mind when i get older

[@wildcroissant]

Damn, Honda's e-clutch is pure gold. Had a CBR650R for a longer test and it was soooo good - felt so much better than any QS - butter smooth, perfect shifts, and no clutch needed at all when stopping or shifting from/to neutral. Give me a bit bigger version of that bike, and I'm going to insta-buy it

[@maxanstine1139]

I got a 1977 CB750A Hondamatic this year as my first bike. Love the thing. It is a 2 speed no clutch bike. It is not fast, but it looks and sounds great and it works well in traffic on my 1hr commute.I will get another bike eventually, but for now the auto is getting me good road experience. And yes, I can still rev bomb tunnels.

[@233kosta]

An e-clutch on the Rebel 500 would be pretty awesome for newer riders who like that style of bike.

[@helderferreira2472]

Americans and the fear of manual shifting, the saga expands

[@rebellucy6200]

Yamaha is a Japenese company

[@gamingbluemoon]

Yamaha is Japanese

[@christosswc]

@@rebellucy6200 It's about the market, not the manufacturer's origin. Having said that, it's not about the Americans, it's about "evolution". Manual gearboxes are considered old-fashioned and obsolete tech and when the technology exists for auto gearboxes at acceptable cost the market will want them. Hardcore bikers no longer dictate the market's tendencies.

[@dariomladenovski7047]

I'm European and for cars give me Automatic over manual any day but for motorcycles hell no

[@helderferreira2472]

@@dariomladenovski7047 yeah me too, just ranting for no reason I don’t really care you do you Just poking a bit

[@BeginnerMoto]

I think this is great. I hope they keep making the manual versions but trickle the tech down so that non-auto versions have bi-directional quickshifters. That opens up the possibility to add cruise control easily.

[@Jeffslayzos]

Not gonna lie - living in one of the most populated cities in the US … I’m pretty tempted to pick up an automatic as a second bike for the bulk of my city riding, and keep the Street Twin for the FUN riding.

[@2wheels.are.better.than4]

Why do some of yall care so much what other people choose to ride? If you like manual, ride manual; if you like automatic, ride automatic.

[@betoney1]

Auto and manual can exist side by side, manufacturers offer both options. I own one of each (DCT and manual) and enjoy them equally.

[@dhess34]

Sir, this is the internet; rationale opinions aren't welcome here.

[@tonyw4863]

I do appreciate the way Yamaha is willing to try new stuff. It is my choice as to whether to buy one or not, but it is great to have choice. Some others aren't willing to innovate.

[@michaelggriffiths]

Auto is the future. We've ditched pedals, now it's time to go fully automatic and electric

[@dhess34]

I'm not against electric bikes, it's just that right now they cost so much more, the performance is worse, and the range makes them borderline unusable. If they get electric bikes to the same price-range-performance of ICE bikes then I'll happily buy one!

[@garrysimmons111]

Yamaha put an automatic transmission on the FJR1300 AE way back in 2006, so they aren't newbies either. My VW Jetta had a DCT in it. It was fine for commuting and general driving around. Wasn't too smart about sporting driving on a twisty road in auto mode. Manual paddle shifting was much better for that. I'd be willing to demo a manual fast-shifting DCT on a sport-touring bike. Long days of twisties (400+ miles) makes for a LOT of gear changes and my left arm/hand can be quite tired by the end of the day.

[@RPG_RicePaddyGod]

They should just call automatic bikes, scooters.

[@Scape974]

But scooters don't even have a gearbox dude, and tbh they can just make both, auto and manual, people will still buy them, different uses, for different purpose :)

[@jasonlemuel5078]

Jeez what are you trying to copy those old boomers who chastise harley for making other than OHV V twin?

[@cjjorge6636]

mopeds bro

[@pedrothetrainer]

Fragile masculinity

[@zzzzoot]

They should just call automatic cars, gokarts.

[@themystx2]

I’m all for it, I have no issues controlling a clutch, but I think this is a great middle ground for accessibility and control. You’ll be able to spot the noobs on these bikes when they’re trying to do slow speed maneuvers.

[@dannyh982]

Funny thing is my 2006 FJR1300AE is clutch less with paddle shift, so nothing really new.

[@Michael-to7oz]

Yamaha already did this with the Gen 2 FJR1300 called the YCCS system on the AE model... I've own two myself.

[@felixgunawan2080]

I'm hopeful, this is the breakthrough for people and new rider who can't use clutch to join the community. Which in turn drive the manufacture to build more model and platform for automatic and (hopefully) manual motorcycle in the future.

[@lingtc8843]

Yes, the trend is towards automatic transmission. Personally, I prefer the E-clutch system but I am not a Honda Fanboy so I hope that Kawasaki will have something similar in the near future.

[@dhess34]

I'd legit drop $10k in a minute if Kawi put an e-clutch on any of their sport bikes.

[@triyo1089]

As long as these are only options to choose from i think its cool.

[@lawrencefranck9417]

Honda had this in the Honda civic in the 80’s. Shift knob no clutch.

[@marcotapiador6646]

Wait, if they're just making the clutch auto but you still have to change gears yourself, isn't that like having quick shifter and an auto blipper at the same time? But more smooth?

[@williamhardes8081]

will they have seats suitable for riding "cross saddle"? we can teach them the correct auto shift pattern: p for pass, r for race, n for noise and d for drag.

[@Lumi-oz6nd]

no no no no no i dont want automatic , nobody want automatic . NOOOOooooo ....

[@Techprep23]

For touring motorcycles an automatic makes sense. We don't need crazy acceleration that sports bikes offer but still have enough to get out of its own way if need be. Just a twist of the wrist and off you go. All you sport riders that ride your Kawasaki ninjas your hayabusas your cbrs keep your clutches and your clutch lever but for those of us who like the idea of two wheels and just want to cruise like the Honda nbx750 something BX 750 is perfect just twist the wrist and go. And remove what is to some people an added complexity to riding replace the clutch lever with a rear brake lever so when somebody pulls out in front of you give both levers a squeeze and you can break evenly front and rear and not get thrown over the handlebars into the ass end of the car that pulled out in front of you. Or bring back the semi-automatic transmission. Like my Yamaha four wheeler. It's a foot shift without a clutch. Just let off the gas a little kick of the foot upward on the lever and the internals shift for you then reapply the gas and you're off.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

@@Techprep23 No reason that you can't have an automatic with the same acceleration as a manual. This isn't the 1960s anymore

[@Jubelly]

Did a test ride with a honda dct a year ago and with the e cluth a few weeks ago. Both systems work very well, but my choice would be the e clutch

[@brent5712]

Lost most of my left font so a DCT allowed me to keep riding

[@TomsTinkeringandAdventures]

I have the Rekluse on my 690, helps a lot with my carpal tunnel/old man arthritis. I don’t care about anyone else’s opinion.

[@Krom1hell]

E-clutch is the way to go.... You can choose what system to use without no dissatvantages.... I need my clutch for special operations :))....

[@shivaish666]

Ease of learning and access is all great but the easier it gets, it takes away the skill and engagement aspects of riding.

[@amerikanviking]

I can not go for an automatic. I just can't. I NEED control over that gear box. Expect a customer loss if they go straight for automatic and remove (what I guess we can now call standard) standard bikes.

[@stephenpublicover8818]

Thats the fun of riding a Motorcycle, banging through the gears! No auto transmisson!!!

[@dhess34]

^^ Boomer take. You were the person in the 1950's screaming that all cars should be manual. Have fun living in the past.

[@stephenpublicover8818]

@@dhess34 Sorry this "boomer" has owned 2 hondas 2 yamahas and 1 kawaski, what kind of bike do you ride?

[@marshalr79]

DCT has a manual mode - and works great off road

[@ScottBrooker-oh5ym]

I'd buy it asap if available. Nothing here bigger than 155cc scooter. Bum foot and left hand so auto or similar would make riding easier. Now I shift with my heel and that is frustrating.

[@allanmoger1838]

Quickshifting is cool, but I don’t think automatic is something I want or need. I think the level of complexity is unnecessary, the cost benefit is pretty brutal for a machine that was never meant to be as expensive to buy, run and maintain as a car.

[@philippmayenburg7282]

Even riding a harley is more manly than riding an automatic bike..

[@gamingbluemoon]

This yea. Freaking weird.

[@jasonlemuel5078]

Perfomance don't care about manliness if auto can improve perfomance just like they did to sports car why not?

[@philippmayenburg7282]

@@jasonlemuel5078 if u care about performance go buy a car. Motorcycles are for having fun and always taking the easy route aka "Nah I dont need to learn how to use a clutch" is just boring

[@Jump-n-smash]

I thought Harleys were *g*

[@jasonlemuel5078]

​@@philippmayenburg7282its a sportbikes aka for perfomance so if auto could increase the perfomance equals more fun You most likely never drove an auto and felt the "fun"

[@Tiduspeco]

Any word on the Yamaha XT250 going automatic? That would be awesome

[@Reaperzx6]

the honda eclutch system seems to be the same thing mv agusta previewed a year ago with once of their brand new 3 cylinder bikes

[@jeffelmer1548]

Is Papa Yam going to be riding a automatic turbo Busa

[@ElNinoNerd07]

Just like the Honda rancher with their electronic shift on the handle bars

[@djben305]

These work like the SMG transmission in the E46 M3 CSL. Still a manual transmission but a hydraulic adjusts the clutch. Once you get used to it it’s fun… but it’s finicky and adds a layer of complexity to the car (ask me how I know lol).

[@adamweisell]

I don’t know. I fell like an anomaly but I hate automatic transmission. I don’t even like quickshifters. I like the old way, feathering the clutch and playing off the brake and throttle to ride skillfully and smoothly. It’s part of the driving/riding fun for me

[@jerstev1]

first the discontinuing of R1 and now this disgrace