Yamaha MT-07 vs KTM 690 SMC R - Which is BETTER?

[@CycleCruza]

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[@xenogears5177]

Six months later... CycleCruza, "I'm selling the 690 SMC R guys, what should my next bike be?" 🤣

[@godzeus9702]

6 months I say 3 months 😂 when he finds out that crappy KTM designed bike has to do the valve adjustment every 6k miles. Oil change every single 600 miles and meanwhile the MT07 will run laps around it. 😂

[@mudoclips]

He should get the KTM 1390 Super Duke R!

[@godzeus9702]

@@mudoclips I Think the head light looks ugly but the bike is a nice powerhouse.

[@CycleCruza]

Naw I usually keep a bike for at least a year unless it has issues like that Tuono or XDiavel S.

[@ARC-4824]

Honestly every motorcycle is just a blast for me. I want to try a supermoto eventually they look so fun. I just bought a 2024 MT09, I got $800 off. Right now, I have a grom until that bike is delivered. Taking forever to get to Cleveland though

[@CycleCruza]

Nice! Congrats! That CP3 on the MT-09 is really nice, strong torque and a great sound with an aftermarket exhaust. Enjoy!

[@veratix8098]

If you’re coming from a grom then be careful with the throttle. It literally has about 10 times the power

[@ARC-4824]

@@veratix8098 my grom is my second bike. Ive had and ridden a lot of other bikes already at least. Including the 3rd gen 09. I will say though the grom is not a good only bike is something I’ve learned waiting for my next bike😂

[@ARC-4824]

@@CycleCruza SC Project, Air Box, ECU flash on the way once they get it unlocked

[@Frank_Torre]

I'm certain the MT07 is better. Though I've not rode the KTM 690, I've owned a MT07 and it's the most hooligan fun bike I've ever rode that wasn't a dirt bike. Plus the CP2 is absolutely bulletproof reliable in my experience.

[@donkeizluv]

How the hell you know for certain the MT07 is better if you have not ridden the other? The 690 can do whatever MT07 can plus jumping and some offroading, riding a tall bike is never the same as a standard bike. As for reliability, any bikes longevity depends on how you maintain it sure it has more quirks due to the highly tuned engine, compromises to reduce weight etc but its worth it. It is that much fun

[@Frank_Torre]

@@donkeizluv I'm certain because I've owned the MT07 and I've worked as a technician and I've seen the horror show of reliability that is some of KTM's bikes. Plus the whole pay to play aspect KTM has going will always rub me the wrong way. Besides one is a naked bike while the other is a supermoto. They're completely different and you wouldn't take the 690 offroad without a tyre change anyway.

[@JRSWANDOG68]

My modded 690 SMCR will crush an MT07

[@donkeizluv]

@@Frank_Torre right. Mt07 is more reliable but the 690 can do anything. So the mt07 isnt "better" it depends on what your priorities are

[@Frank_Torre]

@@donkeizluv I just think the 690 can't be that great given it's a KTM and the fact KTM are having to update it next year to compete with the new Ducati Hypermotard Mono. But as for comparing the MT07 to the 690 here, they're totally different. One is full on supermoto which can do offroad, while the other is a naked bike that can pretty much do everything on road. As far as if you turned a MT07 into a offroad machine I do think the KTM would be better due to weight savings. That said if you build both to be a commuter/touring bike I feel the MT07 would be a better option, plus it would come out cheaper with the MT07.

[@IRLtrolls]

Long haul Paul did 200,000 miles on his T7 with the cp2 engine. I’ve never seen a KTM single make it to 35,000 miles Just food for thought

[@Michael-xm7op]

78.000km.....no problem here

[@IRLtrolls]

@@Michael-xm7op What bike and how many top end rebuilds?

[@outdoorkreations7051]

690 enduro 80k miles original top end. There around

[@TehJigzoh]

bro has seen every ktm single ever made in the world?

[@pikachus5m166]

@@outdoorkreations7051 Lmao !, no way a 690, high powered single clock 30-35k without a top end rebuild, unless you rode it at tickover speed.

[@pfcdevin337]

I'm thinking of selling my Mt07 and buying a 690 or 701. Reliability has been the only determining factor. I dont want to be down a bike when I know the mt07 will run forever. Wish yamaha would make a proper factory supermoto.

[@English_MoFo]

Traded my new mt03 for the 24 390 adventure on Saturday. It’s fun ✅

[@mrspringfield]

“Wish Yamaha would make a proper factory supermoto.” Word. Waiting and hoping.

[@piouy_retr0507]

You're lucky, I have yet to buy it and can't find the discounted 21-24 model 🥲

[@CycleCruza]

That's why I hesitated to buy one but it has been out long enough they worked out the issues. I think some of the issues I've seen people had was because of mods like a Power Commander that went bad. Ther a remany people with 50k+ miles on their 690/701. I will telll you this, I've had zero problems so far and it is the easiest bike I ever worked on in my life so far, such a pleasure to work on, so easy to remove and put on stuff.

[@English_MoFo]

@@CycleCruza after 2 weeks the only glitch I’m getting on the 390 adv is a random quick shifter warning ⚠️ that turns off when you restart it and after the first service ($500 by the way) when I installed the full dominator exhaust EVERY nut and bolt was lose to where I can almost remove them by hand

[@JamesExcell-InterJex]

💯 % will regret selling the MT07. 😅 My MT07 is phenomenal is so good. Everything I need. So easily modible. And reliable. 😅

[@_Cheeba]

YES this was the video i was waiting for, to see how the bikes compare being similar cc's. THANKS

[@sportstermissions]

I'm not a fan of KTM Bikes, however, I am a fan of cyclecruza, and I love supermoto bikes. Glad you love it! I'm more of a Japanese inline 4 guy. Yeah, they lost their appeal to the naked bikes but the 600 class sportbikes is home to me! I will add a dual sport to my garage though...

[@d17a2dude]

I love my 690 so far. Thr 390 was so fun but at 6'2", I need leg room and the 690 feels great. I'm trying to follow the break in so im very excited to open it up soon.

[@matts4852]

I’m not selling my mt for a 690, but maybe for something else, time will tell, only live once

[@c0uchsl0uch]

Change it every 5000, easier to remember when it's time

[@Tampa_tom]

2023 Toyota Tacoma and told me 10,000 miles oil changes but every mechanic you’ll ever talk to say’s definitely don’t go 10,000 miles between changes and they all recommend 5,000 minimum. Don’t go 6,000 miles on your ktm with out changing it. I would recommend 3,000

[@English_MoFo]

Hmmm, I wonder why a mechanic would want you to come in more often..🤔

[@Tampa_tom]

@@English_MoFo because they see engines destroyed because of lack of maintenance. I think a question you should ask is do they make more money selling you a complete engine rebuild or engine swap or a 100$ oil change which most men can do them selves for 40$ and never need a mechanic for

[@jimperry4420]

Oil is cheap. Engines are not.

[@donkeizluv]

I change mine every 4k km. Cant imagine running the same oil 6k miles with these highly strung engines

[@ridenm7748]

More like every 1000 miles if you want it to last.. it only has like 1.7 liters of oil for the engine and transmission

[@rogerrabbit7469]

How does a quick shifter work?...do you still have to blip the throttle and use the clutch &foot shifter?

[@RadishinTrouble]

Redlining the bike at break in.. you crazy :D

[@geomaticskd]

CC, you have gone loco! Disin the mto7 and praising an orange bike! Ah, man, what we gonna do now!❤

[@TimothyKing-nd5ej]

I have the KTM 690 Smcr too and I am glad you are having as much fun as I did getting used to it. The bike really blew my mind too. It’s an absolute hoot. Enjoy.👍👍

[@geneshaw1234]

690 SMC R Rocks! Last week I went to track day on my and it was fun time! One comment you might want to store your KTM Orange Key Card somewhere safe. You need that if you need to get a replacement key.

[@CycleCruza]

INice! I'd love to take this to a hybrid supermoto track with tight twisties. I need to find one.

[@StormnNorman]

Took a 701 SM around a GoKart track - TONS of fun.

[@prodanesti]

if you sell MT 07, you will regret it in the future. hope you won't encounter problems with the KTM. and I hope you won't sell the MT 07. best bike ever.

[@bmwm3man]

Why would he regret it? The bike needs work to not be a pogo stick and it's heavier.

[@Filthy_Goblin_44]

Nope all MTs are out done by some other bike in it's bracket. There's no reason to own one. People just fall for the looks and sound and think it's the best bike but probably haven't ridden something that it supposedly compares with.

[@InTransit8911]

​@@Filthy_Goblin_44 For the price, it's a killer value, but there are definitely better bikes.

[@afrobiker]

I've been daily riding a Husqvarna 701 Supermoto for close to 3 years now and can confirm that it has been rock solid for me. Bought it preowned with 11,000 kms and is now sitting on 36,500 km. Nothing other than normal maintenance. Honestly, both bikes will put a smile on your face with the supermoto being a bit more hooligan and versatile, and the Yammie having a punchy and bulletproof engine. I have also owned an MT07, an MT09, a DRZ400SM, a WR450F Supermoto and many other bikes prior to this one.

[@TheMotoMadman702]

If the biggest promoter of the Mt-07 is talking about selling it, Yamaha better step there game up.

[@michaelbrinks8089]

KTM 690= 2 in 1 dirtbike/supermoto street. MT07 = street commuter or gravel country roads/adventure with 50/50 tires. ?

[@winter-survivor]

Bro you are really struggling for content ideas don't you? Doesn't make any sense comparing these two bikes. Go for a trip man, refresh your mind. I think a little travel or something will bring interesting content for your channel. We want to see this bike on travelling conditions.👍

[@dougyduane]

It does make sense to compare these two bikes. I own a 701 enduro and a f900xr. We know that the 690 is going to be a great city bike. The real comparison would be to do a 250 mile mixed road day trip on each one. Then tell us which one is your sweetheart.

[@EagerMartialArts-cl7vd]

Change the ktm oil every 6k and rent an apt near the dealership so you have a place to sleep for 8 months while ktm fixes it.

[@MotoAlps]

There is nothing more fun than a supermoto, and with that 690 you have the best of the best factory supermoto! im working my way up to one! It definately needs an exhaust though.

[@therealtashiro]

Great video! What makes more sense if you want a dual-sport and a supermoto...??? Get a 690 SMC R and do a dual-sport conversion kit or get a 690 enduro R and do a supermoto conversion kit?

[@alexanderc198]

690 smcr way better bike I’ll cook any mt07 in the twistys. I do have a mt07 with full ohlins fks204/ya419 still trash

[@rickydossantos7131]

put an Akro on and it will sound better than the MT

[@RickHovey]

Do you take the baffle out of the exhaust on the MT07?

[@myfren90]

690 engine its weak, not for long last, mt07 engine makes more miles its bulletproof engine

[@ridelikebuu]

The 690 sounds crazy with the wings exhaust, insert removed. Mine would set off car alarms 😅. I'm going to replace my 690 with the gas gas 700..I have a nice build idea. And let me tell you. Do not go by KTMs oil change interval. Do it at 1500-2000 miles. The valve service on the 690 is 6200, 12,400, 18,600. Technically every oil change is a valve service. Don't do that. And use 15w50 to don't use the 10w.

[@agro6821]

I think a lot of people get the wrong idea about the 690. If your not riding in the Twisties then prob best of with something else as this is where the 690 shines. I've got a 17 Duke 690r never had a problem and it's frigin heaps of fun on twisty roads. As for the T7 it's not going to keep up on the backs roads.. I've owned a lot of bikes and for me the 690 is the best fun..

[@er98ah]

Yo cycle I know you don’t love electric but my zero fxs is just as fun if not more than my 690. So smooth, lightweight and quick. I want the mt09sp next

[@ARSYYYLIN]

For a height of 190cm, is MT07 a good option?

[@JRodSMX]

As someone who owns both, my vote goes to the 07 for street use. It cost way less money and the cp2 engine is phenomenal and proven to be extremely reliable. It has the power where you want it and where you will be using it 95% of the time. Don't let brochure specs fool you, power delivery matters more than a peak number on the dyno. For the price its a great the 07 is a great bike. My 2023 690 SMCR was a little dissapointing. The powerband is focused in the upper rpm, which sucks for a bike that is suppossed to be a supermoto and not something meant to go fast in a straight line. Instead it just feels too much like a 690 duke instead of a supermoto and thats the most disapointing thing about it. If you want a SM I strongly suggest sticking to a proper SM instead of a street bike disguising itself as one. If the bike didn't call itself a Sm I might have a different opinion of it since it would fall into the naked bike category. Unless youre looking to get into actual Supermoto: meaning the motorsport that combines road racing, dirt track and MX into one sport and also want to ride the same bike on the highways often, the 690 is a weird option. Also I have had allot of reliability and quality issues with my 690 in the 4700 miles I have ridden it. The 07 has been bullet proof for the 67k miles I have ridden it. I worked as a mechanic for 10 years and we had many of those lc4 ktm engines destroy themselves. I cannot say the same for the Yamaha CP2 engine. I wish Yamaha would put that CP2 engine into a wr450f frame. It would be awesome.

[@Alien992.2]

I agree on the MT-07 reliability. Not on the other stuff tho. I owned a 07 and changed it for a 690. ECU mapping airbox mod and the 690 is such a fun bike. Way lighter and more torque. Better suspension, better brakes. I can literally do everything on this bike, i couldnt on the 07. Light off-roading, track, skids and jumps. Yeah try that on the MT07. The MT-07 is a good beginner bike and a good bike to keep and drive around in the city and twisties. If you want a performance supermoto with long oil intervals, i dont think you can look past the 690.

[@scottubz]

😂😂😂 if u knew cyclecryza than u know he has a proper supermoto.....

[@JRodSMX]

@@Alien992.2 My 450 runs circles around my 690 in every way, so I cannot relate to your feeling on its performance as a supermoto. Its horribly slow on a supermoto track due to the size and weight and the power being focused in the upper rpm makes it feel gutless down low. Hurts its performance coming out of a corner and in the dirt sections. If you want a street bike disguised as a SM then I understand where you are coming from. For me I prefer my supermotos to be good at what they are named after. to each their own I suppose. Not to mention you have had to spend almost double the money to make it perform that way over a 07. Pretty wild when you think about it.

[@JRodSMX]

@@scottubz I also know he always goes through honeymoon phases with every new bike lol. His "proper sm" isn't even a sm. He literally took the stock wheels off just to make it a dual sport with dual sport tires but with extra steps lmao

[@mrspringfield]

CP2 in a supermoto configuration would be ridiculous fun. Love that engine.

[@BlueRage]

Seat Concepts seems to have a monopoly on seats for these bikes....to Canada, the XL comfort is $800. Someone needs to add some more affordable competition. Or lobby KTM to give a better seat in the first place. Seat Concepts has likely made a fortune of these bikes. Alternatively, you can get a Chinese version of the Airhawk and add gel or honeycomb foam and you've got yourself a solution to the long ride pain. Get the square Airhawk, and don't use the air bladder as you will lose all feedback to the bike...which is dangerous IMO. Might be ok for a cruiser bike, but not a Supermoto where you have to move around.

[@Zenvz-q4x]

Is it worth getting the 2024 or wait for the 2025 reveal?

[@donkeizluv]

Why would you want a 2025 with EU5+?

[@Zenvz-q4x]

why not? Possibilities for upgraded engine and new tech? If you use that logic why not buy an old ass bike that does not need to meet emission standards

[@donkeizluv]

@@Zenvz-q4x these bikes are already maxed out on tuning. I highly doubt they can add anything extraordinary. You probably get more emissions crap on newer one. So why get it while current bike aftermarket already sorted out anything you need?

[@Zenvz-q4x]

@@donkeizluv I’ve heard rumors about adding cc🤷🏽‍♂️ when do they usually announce the next model?

[@donkeizluv]

@@Zenvz-q4x of course, they always keep getting bigger to complement stricter emission measurements

[@CycleCruza]

*NEW VIDEO:* GOODBYE MT-07! NEW Bike Build (SEE VIDEO!): kzbin.info/www/bejne/hF6zpKyQaNRjqbs

[@danielsmt0766]

I sold my mt 07 never look back got myself a KTM 690 smc r best performance bike i have

[@mrspringfield]

Cyclecruza I don’t know how you can stand all those straight line roads! They’re only good for getting to twisties!

[@wowIloveusernames]

If you want more hp do the rotty kit, if you want torque, do the dna delete with the high flow filter. All the vids I've seen with ppl getting a dyno tune show those results consistently. I kept mine stock aside from a slip on and the fuel dongle from rotty to get more fuel to the engine at low rpms. I've had zero problems with mine and am also nervous to mod it lol. Mine is a 21 I got in 22 left over model. I only have 3k miles on mine. Back road ripper. Oh ya delete those blinkers and get a headlight too lol supermofools has rly good stuff.

[@trbgeneralconstruction555]

Bro before you start with the expensive mods. Start with down one tooth in the front sprocket.

[@headhuntersixx8164]

CycleCruza, are you having more fun now that you are on smaller bikes? You used to own all big bikes, 1000cc bruisers.

[@fredmaldonado9204]

That KTM is so Sick. It looks good and it halls ass. I can’t wait until you mod her. You’re really gonna feel the Power of the Dark Side.

[@BlueRage]

In Canada most change the oil at 6000 km's (roughly 4000 miles) . It is dirty at that point....and being a mechanic and seeing a lot of oil changes, it looks done. Would I go longer? No. Could you? Yes, but why? I'd shoot for 6000 km's or 4000 miles #CycleCruza.

[@d.s.juggular4128]

I want a T7A! Does anyone know of under armor I can my pads in, Knee pads and hips?

[@MotoAt50]

Never parting with my MT07 man!

[@EpicGamerOfDead]

Put a good seat and u can do touring

[@Atrip111]

Having hard time finding spool holders for my stand. I see sqaure one i think mine is round. Got one of those cheap venom ones i think. Got it up simple enough over winter. Tried other day so could lube chain. Struggled making me nervous was tipping. Spools already there need holders.

[@michaelg4232]

Is the ktm seat comfy? Can you do 1-2 hours easy

[@CycleCruza]

Yeah, I just about a 3 hours yesterday on it, no problem. That is the KTM comfort seat, not the stock seat.

[@rodstawaa]

When I ride a stock 690 now it feels soo dead I can’t believe it’s the same bike

[@CycleCruza]

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[@Fstmt09]

Yamaha MT-09 RULES. !!! MT-07 is for beginners.

[@CycleCruza]

MT-07 is a bit too strongs for beginner, MT-03 is better for noobs.

[@docsamson2299]

I will almost always run oil 5k the first time, submit it for analysis, and adjust based on that. Every bike is different and I don't trust "generic" manufacturer guidelines with stuff like that. Toyota says their tranny fluid is good for the "lifetime of the vehicle"... 😂😂😂

[@dr.kawasaki7380]

Preach Cruza PREACH 🤣💨💨

[@mcgheeamen2554]

What about ducati hypermotard..... My dream bike

[@jhonnydumeny9816]

The MT07 sounds amazing!

[@ilive4d80s6]

Raffle that MT07 out like most YTbers, or donate it to someone that's less fortunate.

[@GiosueMannino]

I want the GasGas version, the SM700

[@iBon1wheel]

Cost twice as much but isn’t twice as good as the MT07

[@scottubz]

Just picked up the same bike got it for 10999 the new ktm bike will be out soon I bet u it will

[@l337l0gan]

It all boils down to what are you uaing the bike for. Mission drives gear. My personal preference, if i could only have one bike, would be the smcr. But that is comparing them in a vacuum. And i dont want just one bike lol

[@matthewclay5036]

I thought this might happen. Bye bye MT-07 , Hello KTM 690 SMC R! 😂

[@AA_fromtexas]

The end when he hugs the bike lol😂

[@dcryder9736]

Now to compare with the 450fx 👍

[@d.s.juggular4128]

690 VS T7 ADVENTURE 😂 PLEASE

[@Broken-six]

Sell that MT07! Preach it brother!!!

[@cpcny2028]

I have a '23 690 SMCR. Great bike. You say you want to tour on yours. No freaking way I could do that. It's a hooligan bike. Highway riding on it sucks. I also have a '22 KTM 890 Duke R and '23 Suzuki GSX-1000GT+. If you want a really sporty touring bike get the Suzuki GSX1000GT+ or a Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX. I had the kawi also. The GSX is basically a comfortable GSXR. Just my suggestion. You do you. Keep the videos coming.

[@c0uchsl0uch]

What's that spot❓ oil leak❓🤣 Time to bust out the MJ imogi ❗

[@MCraven10]

I’ll be looking forward to all the “My KTM is in the shop AGAIN” videos. 😂😂 I’m just playin’! Food for thought: manufacturers oil change interval recommendations are only to get you through the warranty period. If you plan on keeping it long term, cut those manufacturer intervals in half. Real talk though, you might want to hold on to that MT-07.

[@Soeks77]

I love the ktm but I’m only 5’6 and it’s very tall

[@CycleCruza]

*NEW VIDEO:* REACTION to MT-07 HATERS (SEE VIDEO!): kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIjdiJyAmbOfiqs

[@markstill8258]

T7 is a better comparison but understand you don't own one.

[@Michael-xm7op]

That KTM is bad ass!!

[@davidmcmillan1477]

I wonder if just the gearing is different, 690 has 15/46, mt07 has 16/43. That means the mt07 should have more low end.

[@davidmallia628]

All this hype about Japanese reliability is becoming a bit to much tedious, ad nauseum. Yes, some people want long term reliability. But, some just want a feel good bike for the now, the present. You will not be riding your 200,000 mile bike in your grave, and you will have missed out on some awesome bikes, too. And, also, the reliabilty of the European brands have come up really well of late. An interesting fact is that nobody buys a Ferrari for reliabilty, but get get a Toyota Corolla.

[@tizzin8r]

I’ll trade you my Beta 500 for your MT 🥸

[@markaldersey2663]

The KTM is no good if your a short arse ! 👿

[@marcusvalentin5485]

5’8” is fine

[@markaldersey2663]

@@marcusvalentin5485 unfortunately I’m only I’m only 5’6 bro as I said vertically challenged !

[@CycleCruza]

It depends how short, there are chicks about as short as 5'4" that ride supermotos like a boss. You only need one foot to hold the bike up at stops.

[@marcusvalentin5485]

@@markaldersey2663 I mean, when i was 5'6'' i rode a Derbi Senda, seat height 900mm.. It's ''only'' 15mm taller.. You could lower it a tiny bit? Is possible. Different seat maybe Edit: 16 years Old

[@Kiono-nn8hj]

sell mt 07 and add a sportbike

[@BeStrong-nf5nc]

Sell the mt07 and get a mt01

[@MotoCampAdv]

You'll be selling that KTM once the gremlins start peeking

[@XCRiders]

ZX14r is better

[@limuzinmotociclistu1840]

That can be the King of the motorcycles but is not in the same category as the 690 or the MT07 .So is not comparable

[@Hash9377]

lol nobody wants that heavy ass fat bike

[@connor3288]

MTT Turbine is better😂

[@Watson2108]

Apache stealth helicopter is better

[@WilliamWard-k8c]

Just needs cruise control

[@randymaizland9662]

Sell them both. You know that KTM was a mistake.

[@kennethhowington5657]

That bike is ugly!

[@d17a2dude]

Having too much fun to care what people think!

[@godzeus9702]

On the next CycleCruza why I woke up and sold my 690 😂 6000 mile oil changes 6000 mile valve adjustments 😂

[@rodstawaa]

Needs a graphics kit. motoproworks