Yamaha MT-09 vs Kawasaki Z900! Which Naked Bike Is KING?

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@omenrides7198
@omenrides7198 Жыл бұрын
I got a 2022 Z900 a year ago and it’s a literal thrill, I was torn between the two but I’m very happy with my choice but would recommend a MT-09 as well🤙🏼
@jalapeno.tabasco
@jalapeno.tabasco 6 ай бұрын
the new mt09 for 2024 easily wins the fight
@sebbekartellen6493
@sebbekartellen6493 3 ай бұрын
i have planned to buy a 2024 mt09 in march 2025
@Kwansudru
@Kwansudru Жыл бұрын
I shopped both and ended up with the FJ 09! It's got that same 849 triple feels super sporty but as a commuter and occasional long hauler, it is so much better than either.
@county_bear9509
@county_bear9509 9 ай бұрын
I thought the same, just can't find one for a decent price and they didn't make em long. A shame really.
@rebman5150
@rebman5150 Жыл бұрын
I’m 52 and just bought the Z900. I’m not into doing power wheelies or being a hooligan. Those days are past. The Z is smooth, and has a very comfy riding position. He’s right about sitting in the bike instead of on. Build quality is excellent and well thought out. Handles well and the throttle brings on the torque like a wave. I love it.
@natural9743
@natural9743 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more in fact I don't think the Mt is even close
@ericlunger8090
@ericlunger8090 Жыл бұрын
That four cylinder engine is so good. And the sound the intake makes 😊
@itstherealjammin
@itstherealjammin Жыл бұрын
I'm considering swapping to a Z900 from a Honda CBR650F because it's a bit dull and not the comfiest, would a Z900 be a good choice?
@rebman5150
@rebman5150 Жыл бұрын
@@itstherealjammin I think that would be a great change, and you need to go sit on it (test ride if you can) and be sure it fits you. I can't hustle the bike super fast in the twisties like on a lighter bike, but I don't make the public roads my track.
@itstherealjammin
@itstherealjammin Жыл бұрын
@@rebman5150 thanks, ride safe 🙏
@sameh2150
@sameh2150 Жыл бұрын
It is insane how the sound changes with complete exhaust swabs, it sounds like old F1 cars.
@themanwiththeplan5919
@themanwiththeplan5919 Жыл бұрын
& he has the quiet exhaust too 😳
@joeplem5329
@joeplem5329 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 z900 (grey) and as a shorter guy 5'6 30 inseam it fits me perfectly!!!! That being said the stock seat is HORRIBLE which I'm probably going to change. Never rode the Yamaha cause good luck finding one but imo I still prefer the styling of the Z even if there was an mt09 available. Also I wish everyone would stop getting the hp wrong between this (125hp) and the retro that indeed has 113.
@mototime8975
@mototime8975 Жыл бұрын
I went to buy a MT09 and left with the Z after riding both. Also I’m in northern Colorado and have the full Akrapovic if you ever want to get together for a sound clip on both with the exhaust.
@maklaud406
@maklaud406 Жыл бұрын
Добре че нямам мотоциклет,вече не искам и да имам,тотално ме объркахте с вашите отзиви,ще си карам велосипеда...живи и здрави...пазете себе си и другите...бъдете щастливи максимално дълго и всеки да кара това което иска
@Steve-motorcycles
@Steve-motorcycles Жыл бұрын
The MT09SP Gen3 does not come with semi active suspension. You have to go to the MT10SP for that. Both the Z900 and Gen3 MT09 are great bikes, but for fun value, the Yamaha wins I should know, I own both.
@jimmyf2618
@jimmyf2618 2 ай бұрын
Another thing I noticed, Most of 3 year old Z900s I looked at, seem like they were in better shape than the same 3 year old MT09s, no matter how many used MT09s I looked at, they all seem like due to build quality , were not in as good shape as used z900s
@yoyoking77
@yoyoking77 Жыл бұрын
Need to compare the new MT09s lmao
@dg8062
@dg8062 Жыл бұрын
I think I liked my '18 mt09 better than my new gen '22. Of course, my '18 had K-Tech suspension front and rear along with about $5k more in aftermarket. Nope, I didn't spend that much, the wealthy guy I bought it from did it all. '22 felt cheap compared with old '18. For example, toggle wheel on new gen a joke! I now have a tuned mt10. Different and considerably more serious machine.
@Sasquatchflow
@Sasquatchflow Жыл бұрын
Would like to see the comparison between yours and a 2023 mt09 sp
@Rabessey
@Rabessey Жыл бұрын
You should compare the 2023 Z900 with a 2022+ MT-09 SP
@Louiem28
@Louiem28 4 ай бұрын
The z900 is the way especially the new 24 se that i just got
@martinhughes9769
@martinhughes9769 Жыл бұрын
In Wales GB they use rocksalt on the roads for all winter weather snow not that we've had a lot for several winters, frost/ ice on the roads is the biggest issue, I don't ride much in the winter the salt will kill your bike, Never owned a yamaha but have a kawasaki SX 1000 few years old now but it's a brilliant bike 😊, Kawasaki it would be for me,
@Afldbr
@Afldbr Жыл бұрын
Triumph Street Triple RS, of course Easy one
@danbskyguy
@danbskyguy Жыл бұрын
MT09 all day!
@oskarubbi5993
@oskarubbi5993 Жыл бұрын
U missed the rider mode. Meaning on your test drive you was lacking power on the z900
@ezedzi
@ezedzi Жыл бұрын
Raise the forks 14mm in the trees for your MT - as per new mt09, and then re-adjust suspension to firm and enjoy!
@alexrobert3380
@alexrobert3380 8 ай бұрын
Bought the MT09 few years ago after test riding Triumph trident and Kawasaki Z900 That cross plane triple on yamaha feels alive and have one of the best sound I ever heard from a motorcycle(with a decent exhaust) When riding in A mode with TCS off the bike feels like a bull on steroids but once changed to standard and TCS on the acceleration is very smooth and linear with a lot of torque in low RPM. MT09 is a motard disguised in a naked
@ridepastu1418
@ridepastu1418 4 ай бұрын
No cross plane in the triple 🤦‍♂️
@alexrobert3380
@alexrobert3380 4 ай бұрын
@@ridepastu1418 Just google it!
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 3 ай бұрын
@@ridepastu1418Yes there is. A traditional triple firing order is 123 A cross plane is 132
@lNickHD
@lNickHD Жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 2023 Z900. I have to say I personally like how the Z looks compared to the MT which was one of my main factors when purchasing, but I can't deny the MT is a great motorcycle.
@tvbuu
@tvbuu Жыл бұрын
same
@lNickHD
@lNickHD Жыл бұрын
@FlaxOFF Mostly cosmetic for now. Planning to get an ECU flash/tune next year after the warranty expires. Current list of stuff: SC Project CRT slip on Moto Dynamic fender eliminator TST integrated tail light TST Mech GTR front signals Tech Spec tank grips Bar end mirrors w/ Rhino moto bar ends Trying to decide what frame sliders and or engine cases to get for protection and have a Quad Lock mount on the way.
@johnlewis5731
@johnlewis5731 Жыл бұрын
The deciding factor for me from the 22 09 or the z was the tech on the mt09 coming from a grom I wanted the rider aids that the 09 has to offer
@lNickHD
@lNickHD Жыл бұрын
@@johnlewis5731 The newer model Zs have decent tech imo. The MT is superior, but the new Zs have power modes and traction control which is all I really wanted in a bike. Either one is a killer choice for the streets though.
@yourwifesboyfriend6081
@yourwifesboyfriend6081 Жыл бұрын
The difference for me might come down to price, especially on the used market. I love my FZ-07, but people are really out here wanting MSRP for their 4 year old MT-09 with 15k on it. I’m about to give in and finally buy my first new vehicle, but the used Z900s around me aren’t priced nearly as crazy. Even just considering grabbing a new GSXS-1000 for a grand more and calling it a day.
@kevinhaskins6619
@kevinhaskins6619 Жыл бұрын
The MT07/09 both sound better with or without a pipe. I bought a 2017 Z900 (without ABS) and for me, it was the ergonomics and that wonderful linear power response that were the primary attractions. I'm a short dude so the Kawasaki lends itself to those of us of shorter stature. Personally, I didn't want any of the technology. If I had my druthers I'd have analog gauges and the only electronics I like is the fuel injection.
@xsrchow2499
@xsrchow2499 Жыл бұрын
What?As an owner who has also owned a 2017 Z900, I don't know there was an no-ABS version of the Z900.
@mikesbikechannel4387
@mikesbikechannel4387 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2020 Z900. I like your comparison here as out of the naked bike segment, these seem to be the two most compared bikes that I see online. I bought the Z900 after doing an exhaustive amount of research. I came to the conclusion that the Kawasaki seemed to be one of the best values for power, tech, and handling at least at my time of purchase. I did purchase my bike at the very start of Covid so I got a killer deal on a brand new machine. My price was actually way under msrp. This is my first real sport type motorcycle, although I've been riding for over 25 years on the street. I have been over the moon about this bike since day one! I can attest to the sound of this bike with a full CS Racing exhaust system. It sounds amazing!
@mogthemoogle_160
@mogthemoogle_160 Жыл бұрын
They're both excellent bikes. I personally prefer the z900, but you can't go wrong with either choice.
@krazokid19
@krazokid19 Жыл бұрын
I've owned a couple MT-09s and I now own a Z900. I'm a Yamaha man normally but I like the Z over the MT any day for the comfort and the smoothness that the MT just can't provide for me.
@englishsteel-nz6im
@englishsteel-nz6im Жыл бұрын
The MT is awful, it's popularity is due to riders that haven't had much experience with anything else liking it and publications paid to promote it. Your findings are exactly what the bike is... a mess of a design.
@krazokid19
@krazokid19 Жыл бұрын
@@englishsteel-nz6im I agree. It's a weird super motard with a forward canted seat and wide bars. I feel like Yamaha can do better. I haven't tried the newest MT-09 but after my last 2 I'm not sure I want to spend the money to find out.
@englishsteel-nz6im
@englishsteel-nz6im Жыл бұрын
@krazokid19 I rode the SP and can vouch its pretty good but not for the price tag. Any other non SP model is horrible and the early fz09 era are exceptionally poor handling weird bikes. Yamaha fans tho think anything Yamaha is amazing. I think R6 is the worst of the 600 class with its extra peaky engine and extreme ergo's but people are buying them used for a price of a zx6r Krt and the zx6 is a way better bike lol 😆 I have a Gixxer 600 and I don't think its the top of its class but it's a way more capable road sport bike than R6 is. The GsxS750 Suzuki cancelled cuz low sales really is a peach of a bike too that effortlessly carves up corners but ppl love wheelie machine mt09.... The Z900 is at least balanced and smooth.
@warrenseiboth3466
@warrenseiboth3466 3 ай бұрын
Kawasaki boring no characters
@santiagor486
@santiagor486 Ай бұрын
Guys what about z900 vs z1000? Help a bro out, tryna see what to get
@rodi2004
@rodi2004 Жыл бұрын
Great Review . I tried to get an MT09 last spring/ summer. Most dealers just laughed at me those that would even get back with me that is . Ended up getting a 2022 Z900. Great bike
@dr.d5681
@dr.d5681 Жыл бұрын
Love the Z900, but the riding position was too aggressive for me. At 6’2” the pegs were too high and back. Went with a 2023 MT 09 SP which has a much more straight up riding position. Not sure if there is much difference in handling between a 2019 MT and 2023. The bike has way more performance potential I’ll ever get out of it. Both bikes look great!!
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo Жыл бұрын
Doesn't the Z have 125 horsepower?
@Nomad4417
@Nomad4417 Жыл бұрын
This is correct^
@andyl344
@andyl344 Жыл бұрын
My Z dyno'd at 125 after a full exhaust and tune
@Nomad4417
@Nomad4417 Жыл бұрын
@@andyl344 Wheel hp, like measured on a dyno, is different than crank hp(what the manufacturer advertises). Your always gonna have drivetrain loss
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo Жыл бұрын
@@andyl344 which exhaust did you go with?
@marcosandre1986
@marcosandre1986 Жыл бұрын
My Z900 in Europe have 125hp stock.
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes Жыл бұрын
I’ve ridden both, an I personally prefer the z900 👍
@landen702
@landen702 Жыл бұрын
Was debating between the mt 09 and z900 and after lots of reviews I went with the z900 because I felt it was the more beginner friendly of the 2. I definitely don't recommend it for a complete beginner, I have 10+ years with dirt bikes but only rode a few street bikes. I expected to get a R6 or ninja but the Z900 and mt-09 caught my eye hard. I went with the Z900 because of the linear power and better stability. It's still a monster but she gives you exactly what you ask vs the mt 09 being a beast unleashed. Definitely has a lot of torque in 1st and 2nd gear and can disappear in 6th
@nevanhopkins
@nevanhopkins Жыл бұрын
How would it do for a true beginner in low power mode?
@pmudri
@pmudri Жыл бұрын
@@nevanhopkins You can limit it to 35kw and put it in rain mode. Or just ride in rain mode for some time till you get ajdjusted. Personally Id look for a 650cc bike for beginners, like MT07 or SV650. That V2 engine pulls at all rpms but isnt too wild. You literally dont need anything else for first few years. + something like SV is much cheaper to maintain and you wont go bankrupt if you slide or crash or something I rode SV650 for 2 years and Im getting a Z900 now.
@LeeMooEez
@LeeMooEez Жыл бұрын
Because MT on the yamaha is literally means Master of Torque if I’m not mistaken
@ASOMAX
@ASOMAX Жыл бұрын
2021 Z900 here. Amazing bike! Engine is insanely smooth.
@jamesdone8391
@jamesdone8391 Жыл бұрын
From my experience both are diferent bikes. Had a z900 2017 for 5 years and loved it and facing it against mt09 gen 1 and 2 is a better bike with more stability and corner capability. I have now a 2022 mt09 Sp and comparing it with the gen 1 and gen 2 the are worlds apart in terms of chassi and agility. I prefer my mt over the z900 but front stability of the z900 with good tires is better thann the mt09.
@petedetraglia4776
@petedetraglia4776 Жыл бұрын
I own an FZ-09. I bought new in 2017. Love it.... Comfortable for longer rides but a hooligan when you want it to be. Nothing sounds better than the CP3 cross plane triple motor... I'm a Kawi guy at heart though also...I own a 2005 ZRX1200R that I bought new in '05 and it's a beast with the mods I put on it. Full titanium Akrapovic exhaust, K&N filter, Borg Warner Race clutch, 4 degree ignition advancer, Factory Pro Jet Kit, 3 teeth up in the rear sprocket, and many Dyno runs to dial it in... It 1/4 mile at 10.6 seconds on the stock swing arm...Naked bikes rule!!! I also owned a Kawaski ZX11 and a 1970 KZ1000A that I fully restored... Great video and channel.
@sharpbj
@sharpbj Жыл бұрын
2018 MT-09, smog deletion, Akropovic full exhaust, DNA air filter and custom ECU tune 120 at the rear with 75 ft. lbs and it's an absolute beast. I like it because it is raw and angry, but it's predictable once you get to know it.
@toofastnobrakes
@toofastnobrakes Жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeah your off on the horsepower. Z900 is 124hp to the crank. Maybe 113 to the wheel. But the in both cases the z has about 10hp on the MT
@TrustyZ900
@TrustyZ900 Жыл бұрын
I have to say, you're probably one of the best bike reviewers on youtube. Clear voice, not a smart ass and fair in your assessments. Have a '22 Z900 and 900RS. These are torquey 4 bangers. They can take off in 4th gear easily. Made the mistake on a quick red light and didn't have time to downshift. Thought I'd try it. Don't need all the tech. Had a '20 MT09, prefer the Z's. Smooooth.....
@Kona5.0
@Kona5.0 Жыл бұрын
Were you going by horsepower at the wheel rating? Z900 is ~125hp and MT09 is ~115hp at the crank respectively.
@TheVwboyaf1
@TheVwboyaf1 Жыл бұрын
I bet he referenced Z900RS specs, which is a bit detuned.
@GoGoober
@GoGoober Жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing!!
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
Brock's Performance took a Z900 up to 129 wheel hp and 74 ft-lb.
@do.on2wheels38
@do.on2wheels38 Жыл бұрын
I think a selling point of the z900 over the 09 is the predictably and linear power curve. 09 just comes on so much harder and has the grunt of a freight train, that’s what sold me on the 09 over the z900. You can definitely play with riding position on the 09 as well raise the forks 10-12mm, get some cheap puig adjustable foot pegs to raise your feet 20mm, and a flatter bar or clip ons and you got one hell of a riding position. Did that with mine and take it to the track 🤙 would like to get a z900 on the track as well seems like a fun track bike
@mikehoskin1674
@mikehoskin1674 11 ай бұрын
Why would you raise the forks? I assume you mean lower the triple tree? The triple tree has already been lowered by 30mm over the previous generation which gives it substantially better handling but also caused it to have a wider turning circle.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
Owned a '17 Z900. Have an 18' MT-09. Experience on both is stock condition, stock tune. They are quite different but they both have very desirable traits. The Z is so much more stable, confidence inspiring, feels like you could do everything 20 mph faster than the Yamaha. You know what the wheels are doing and how much traction you have, and that's on stock crappy tires. The engine is SO BUTTER SMOOTH, but not to say mellow or dull. It has a lot of torque, tuned in a way that a lot of inline-4 engines are not tuned these days, but the throttle is telepathic to drive thrust. Always there, always responding to input, always giving you exactly what you ask for. The MT before the latest redesign, is a mess. If it had a boring engine, NO ONE WOULD EVER BUY IT FOR ANY OTHER REASON. The engine is exciting enough to make people utterly blind to all the other issues it has. I know, I own one. But over time when you get to using a machine and rationale kicks in, you start to grow more and more frustrated with issues. It's an over-achiever in its displacement. It makes a lot of power for an 847cc. But here comes the woes: suspension is terrible (spring rates, lack of damping, chatter, headshake), chassis is overwhelmed by the engine and can't put the power down or control bike oscillations at higher speeds. Switchgear is some of the absolute worst I've ever fiddled with on any motorcycle, super flimsy, lacking tactility, button placement is ridiculous. Instrument display was designed by a kid high on sugar, all the wrong shape, too small, and information updates too slowly and inaccurately. Riding position is a little strange. Throttle tube is sloppy, slick, lacks any natural friction with the bar, resistance is a unnatural feeling spring due to lack of cables, coupled with a messy TBW calibration and your entire right arm will cramp after an hour trying to control the engine and make things smooth. Upper body is comfortable but the position of the feet relative to the butt is low and rearward. Strange. It was designed by Yamaha as a "Roadster motard" (exact words by product manager, Shun Miyazawa), and the chassis, long suspension, and ergonomics reflect that sort of ethos. Wouldn't be so bad if the suspension and chassis was up to coping with the powertrain, rider weight, and road surface at speed. It's been universally complained about from day 1. 3rd Gen MT-09 couldn't be more of a contrast to the old one. Kept the engine character and power, bumped midrange torque a little, and basically redesigned the entire chassis, suspension, and geometry. It's still more of a sit-up-and-beg position compared to the sit-in-and-attack of the Z. In summary, I miss the Z900 and it's butter engine, mile wide rev band, super confident chassis. I literally do similar road sections at 25 mph less on the MT-09 than I did on the Z900 and I feel like I'm "risking it" even then. The confidence between the two is VERY different. Not to say that either bike is perfect. As a long term unit, I'd be throwing thousands into the tuning, suspension, brakes, tires, and other bits. I just can't see myself doing that on the '18 MT-09. It's just got a too-big laundry list of personal complaints that I have grown to become intolerant of over time, spending enough time on a bike to figure these things out (something not many people do these days, judging by the mileage on similar used bikes for sale). If I had my personal wishes, I'd go with a Z900RS Cafe if Kawasaki hadn't messed with the power and transmission from the Z900, but they neutered it. Also considering a 2018 GSX-S1000 or the newer 2022 GSX-S1000. Also the new XSR900 with cruise control, I think it looks much better than the MT-09 and has more of an attack position like a traditional sports bike, rather than the goofy puppy-begging position of the MT. If the 890 Duke R wasn't questionable about long term reliability, that bike is about as buttoned down, sharp, light, and raucous as anything that's ever had two wheels. Lots to choose from on the market.
@khkh2816
@khkh2816 Жыл бұрын
indeed
@yonniboy1
@yonniboy1 Жыл бұрын
The new Street Triple RS is well worth consideration, 128 bhp ,styleema brembos, Ohlins suspension and the best handling middleweight.
@luisloya1120
@luisloya1120 Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
@@yonniboy1 After living with the fat torque of the MT-09, I don't think I would care for 82cc less, or in the case of the new MT, 125cc less. I've read the Triumph triple is a little more vibration than the MT, which I believe to be just tolerable.
@freebehindbars8654
@freebehindbars8654 Жыл бұрын
Got a 21 890R with 13k miles of loving it. It’s made the other bikes in the shop collect dust. Top shelf everything, better components than either of these.. KTM got it together, but people compare everything to the pre 2017 bikes, which got a bad rap as well. Do yourself a favor, get the KTM.
@alecphillips1445
@alecphillips1445 Жыл бұрын
Both bikes are awesome. I am a taller person and I went with the mt09. It felt more comfortable for some reason, I’ve owned mine for over two years now and it’s been an awesome bike.
@marioperic8005
@marioperic8005 Жыл бұрын
How tall are you?
@JimmyPtheman
@JimmyPtheman Жыл бұрын
MT-09 is just so damn ugly. Z900 everyday
@GearShifter925
@GearShifter925 3 ай бұрын
Great bikes comparisons video.. Very nicely depth details explained. BUT it would be MORE great if you had use CLASSIC COLOUR of Kawasaki i,e. Green : GREEN Z900 . KINDLY Next time if possible.. check/focus on BIKE'S colours variant too . 😊👍🏻
@boywonderrr71
@boywonderrr71 6 ай бұрын
I had a 22 MT09SP and at 53 here at the start of March, I love hooning around on it. The antiflip wheelie control is awesome and the torque is amazing. I had to sell it to escape CA and have my name at the top of 2 shops list for the 24 SP!! Lets see how the Tail of the Dragon compares to CA's HWY 9 and PCH.
@D0yjvdf
@D0yjvdf Жыл бұрын
The z900 weighs 467 that’s 50 pounds more than the Mt09 and 42 pounds more than the zx6r. I was considering this bike but the weight might be too much for me.
@harikani7736
@harikani7736 Жыл бұрын
I'm Rajesh l like YAMAHA MT09.☝️😎👍💪😈😍💕 waste z900 not like so boring style design all ways king only YAMAHA..
@chickenfixn4439
@chickenfixn4439 Жыл бұрын
You talk like a scammer
@StrikerSG
@StrikerSG Жыл бұрын
I'm a mt09 guy, and love it. Engine is wonderfull, it's light and a beast. It´s a hooligan bike and make you feel great. I have booth, a tracer to travel and a bandit to everyday ride. 4 cylinders are great and sound great.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
I'm convinced everyone saying they prefer the z900 are either scared of the MT-09 or already bought the z and don't want buyer's remorse
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw I'm convinced you're revealing your bias.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
@Lifted_Above sorry I hurt your feelings with objective reality little buddy. The fact is that the z900 has a detuned, buttery smooth 4-cylindee that has absolutely zero character. If you're looking at the z900 you might as well cross shop with a cb500f or suzuki burgeman scooter which might actually have more character than a z900.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw Except I've owned a Z900 and MT-09 personally. I have experience in ownership. You have talk.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket except I've owned an MT-09 and swapped regularly with my buddy's z900. I'm sorry you think lifting facts is talk and that your feelings are hurt, but there's a reason the MT-09 outsells the z900 and why the z900 probably will be scrapped as a model within the next couple years.
@photographerjonathan
@photographerjonathan Жыл бұрын
A stable planted ride is the biggest difference, owned the first Ninja 900 that came out in 1984. the bike felt totally planted on the ground at any speed. it was totally stable, then in 2019 I was considering getting an Mt09 so I took one out for a test ride. and after a few minutes I realized that the front end never felt planted. and it bothered me so much that I decided I didn't want the bike. but I am assuming that the new Mt09 has solved that problem.
@purpleguy6973
@purpleguy6973 Жыл бұрын
just picked up a '23 mt09, it's fairly planted, definitely more than older gens, but the insane low end power is gonna lift the front regardless of what they tweak
@anthonytownsend4900
@anthonytownsend4900 Жыл бұрын
Does your MT burn oil?? I'm looking into getting one, but I have been scared of the oil burning stories.
@croscoe333
@croscoe333 11 ай бұрын
I've got a '19 which I bought new. Over 23k miles on it currently. It will burn some oil if ridden aggressively all day, but doesn't seem to if ridden reasonably. Idk, imma send it until it dies. Definitely my most fun street bike, although the GSXS1000GT is not far behind. I'd go for it and just keep an eye on your oil level. These bikes rock.
@ΡΑΠΤΑΚΗΣΔΗΜΗΤΡΙΟΣ
@ΡΑΠΤΑΚΗΣΔΗΜΗΤΡΙΟΣ Жыл бұрын
Is the Z 900 recomended for short rider,5.5-5.6ft?Whats your weight?
@hawaii5084
@hawaii5084 Жыл бұрын
Z900 has 125HP not 113HP and the torque is 98 at 7,700rpm Look at cheap looking dash on the MT comparing to Z900 more elegant and appealing. I own a Yamaha YZF-R1 which i love. But chose to own a 2022 Kawasaki Z900 over the MT-09 after doing my research.
@jadethompson5269
@jadethompson5269 10 ай бұрын
Mt-09, great for pissing off neighbourhoods.
@funnyZEID
@funnyZEID Жыл бұрын
guys i have z900 2017, im planning to sell it so please help me make the decisiion, like for selling it and dislike to keep it, thanks a lot, (Idgf about likes and stuff thats y dislike is for keeping it )
@foketeo
@foketeo Жыл бұрын
More videos like this I watch the more I want a Z900
@bagim948
@bagim948 Жыл бұрын
No specs mentiioned?!
@mohmdakel
@mohmdakel Жыл бұрын
The newer mt09 differs hugely from the one here (much improved!)
@weisswurstfruhstuck8523
@weisswurstfruhstuck8523 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t drive a lot other bikes than the MT07 and my MT09 SP. Not the new one. Love that bike somehow. It has a lot of character. You gotta get to know her first. It’s not getting boring with her. She still excites me and makes me little surprises and things I didn’t know about her. It’s like to getting to know your wife or some standard ex GF of yours. ;) I will drive the new mt10 now just because I am curious. Swinger party so to say. We will see. I am curious about a 4 cylinder but for fun, punch, comfort the MT09 is quite a great Allrounder catch as your wife. Uh bike!
@christopher9626
@christopher9626 Жыл бұрын
Great job on the comparison! This would be a hard decision to make. I would choose the Yamaha as I prefer the feel and sound of the triple.
@ephemeric8937
@ephemeric8937 Жыл бұрын
The crossplane sound sold me. It sounds so mean, especially with the aprakovich exhaust. I imagine every other MT rider feels the same way because half the MTs I look at have the custom exhaust on it. I'm gonna get an XSR900, just because I don't like the bug eye look of the newer MTs
@marks6072
@marks6072 Жыл бұрын
Relax dude... 78 in a 40 on cold streets??... We want to see more vids, just not 1 of you being loaded into an ambulance...
@rawonboard7831
@rawonboard7831 7 ай бұрын
Z900 smokes the mt09
@catalin1588
@catalin1588 Жыл бұрын
I've had the 1st gen MT09, I loved it, apart from the suspension which is crap and in the city it wasn't as pleasant to ride due to the on/off throttle. I now own the 2017 Z900 and I love it more, the suspension is just fine and the elasticity of the engine makes it really really friendly as much in town as out of it. Great bikes both of them!
@mn_mt0964
@mn_mt0964 Жыл бұрын
That choppy throttle isn't for everyone
@whocarescameraj1809
@whocarescameraj1809 Жыл бұрын
@@mn_mt0964 try adjusting your accelerator position sensor (I know what your thinking, no not at the cable.. its under the tank!.. and transforms the bike! fyi: i got my diags 14 to read 12-97, diags 15 to read 10-95.. im NOT doing the ecu flash now... (gen 1 09)
@mn_mt0964
@mn_mt0964 Жыл бұрын
@whocarescamera j I seen a video a guy does with this also it would be good for him to look into this for sure
@kimw200blaze4
@kimw200blaze4 Жыл бұрын
The Z900 just looks generic. Whereas the MT 09 seems to have more personality and character. It stands out with an distinct attitude and coolness. Whereas the Z900 just looks like an more powerful version of the Z650.
@thegoatrider_
@thegoatrider_ Жыл бұрын
The MT has more character and unpredictable power delivery that makes more fun in riding. Smooth power delivery is not for me, just any other inline four is just boring.
@themanwiththeplan5919
@themanwiththeplan5919 Жыл бұрын
This 🙌🏻
@Love4boost
@Love4boost Жыл бұрын
Love the Z but there’s no way I’d take it over my 3rd gen MT. Also you quoted the MT-10Sp not the MT-09SP which is $11.5k and doesn’t have semi active suspension. Just an Ohlins rear, beefed up KYB front fork, and cruise control.
@SirMountainpass
@SirMountainpass Жыл бұрын
The 2020 MT09 SP tuned to 115 whp and modified to 184kgs wet (shod with S22 rubber) is a force on the mountain passes 😎🏁🏁
@mikehoskin1674
@mikehoskin1674 11 ай бұрын
No doubt the S22 is a great tyre but the Road 5/6 are just as good on the street in twisties.
@FreddyKings87
@FreddyKings87 Жыл бұрын
MT 09 is a blast to ride..
@trido1986
@trido1986 10 ай бұрын
Asked s.o who owned both Mt09 so much much fun I owned 4 of mt09 till now
@Philthy82
@Philthy82 Жыл бұрын
Can't go past that CP3! Has loads more character!
@cbwelch4
@cbwelch4 Жыл бұрын
I like the aggressive sound and gearing of the MT09. I have a TL1000s so i dig that. Seems like the MT is more of a cruiser. I like the agressive push up bars on the TL for ripping, but i might like the MT for longer rides now. Does that sound like accurate assumptions?
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge Жыл бұрын
Helmet vs Head Inches Size. Circumference XXS 19 XS 20 S 21 M 22 Normal L 23 XL. 24 XXL. 25 XXXL (3XL) 26 XXXXL (4XL) 27 XXXXXL (5XL) 28 Joseph Carey Merrick (The Elephant Man). His head circumference was 36 inches. Normal for men is around 22 inches.
@TheWhiteCometOfZion
@TheWhiteCometOfZion Жыл бұрын
Z900 weighs literally 100 lbs more than the FZ09 with only about 5 more hp. A 140 lb dude like me on an FZ vs everybody else on that Z. Lol, nah
@willidevegt8831
@willidevegt8831 7 ай бұрын
where i live both models have a standard aand a lets call it special edition Here the Z900 has SE for special edition which comes withh Öhlins and brembo and the MT-09 has the SP for special edition with cruse control. But when you go for the standard Z900 or MT-09 there is a huge price difference in the two. Where the standard MT-09 cost you around 25% more than thhe Z900 standard.
@akashchetri95
@akashchetri95 4 ай бұрын
Street triple over these anyday
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 2 ай бұрын
For Track yes, street MT-09 all day! 💯💪
@OptimusPrime-zy6tz
@OptimusPrime-zy6tz 5 ай бұрын
My Mind : MT-09 My heart : Z900...❤
@davelankford4609
@davelankford4609 Жыл бұрын
Both are nice in their own ways, but I will stick with my GSX-s750.😎
@michide72
@michide72 Жыл бұрын
Z 900 has 125 hp, not 113 or .14 as mentioned....
@Coldee777
@Coldee777 Жыл бұрын
it would be nice if you compare it with 890 Duke!!!
@sheldonnicholl3599
@sheldonnicholl3599 Жыл бұрын
Too many caveats. Would have been better to have the 2021 MT-09 since the Z900 was a newer bike. You kept referring back to the 2021 MT-09 model, which makes you wonder if the Z900 is truly better (or different) in the areas you noted. Good attempt though.
@the_jarmel
@the_jarmel Жыл бұрын
Happy Wednesday everyone ✌️ HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY
@yonniboy1
@yonniboy1 Жыл бұрын
The Street Triple RS is like a blend of the two, aggressive ergonomics with a triple engine and by far the best handling naked middleweight.
@themanwiththeplan5919
@themanwiththeplan5919 Жыл бұрын
There’s nothing like that 3 cyl crackle 😩🧱
@Sanisani9
@Sanisani9 5 ай бұрын
890r is the best in that class. Nothing can compare with it.
@antoniocarlosacsjr7128
@antoniocarlosacsjr7128 Жыл бұрын
I've rode both bikes in a closed circuit, till almost 200 Km/h each. And a lot of other bikes like 765RS and Z1000 R Edition. I found the MT-09 a blast and peppy, and the Z900 just the opposite, like nothing to highlight, and really a deception. It was very funny and remarkable to ride the 09. Definitely not for beginners, but what a ride! After all, I'm not sure if I woul exchange my current 2012 BMW F800R, wich I love, for the 765RS. But I guess one day I'll get the 09, for sure!
@CaptainChristianZ1818
@CaptainChristianZ1818 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the z900 is at 124hp at crank. Unless you meant 113hp at the wheel.
@TFLbike
@TFLbike Жыл бұрын
Thanks for catching that!
@brianm5753
@brianm5753 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Yamaha fanboy and I think the Z has more character and just a better hooligan bike but the CP3 engine sound and low end torque is hard to beat
@Jtwizzle
@Jtwizzle Жыл бұрын
You are the only person I have seen say the Z900 is more of a hooligan bike than the mt09
@brianm5753
@brianm5753 Жыл бұрын
@@Jtwizzle Stock 09 has lots of low-end torque. A larger rear sprocket makes it too jerky for controlled wheelies
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
​​@@Jtwizzlehe mt09 nearly looks like an ordimnary commuter but the z900 kawi seems like they were side eyeing that one bmw.
@helgejohan3604
@helgejohan3604 10 ай бұрын
Agree full akro on z900 10hp more and sporty and hooligan then the crusier Mt09✊🔥
@lawluka
@lawluka Жыл бұрын
Previous model of mt 09 looks so much better then new one
@ckrz1234
@ckrz1234 Жыл бұрын
MT09 wins every time, especially the new SP version with cruise control. Much lighter than Z900, very agile and perfect quick shifter. Don't know any better bike than that one for the price.
@Snotroggel453
@Snotroggel453 Жыл бұрын
Z900 looks way better it’s a real head turner and sounds better. But yes the yammie is more comfortable and complete.
@christopherking9338
@christopherking9338 Жыл бұрын
Z 900 is quicker in the 1/4 mile cus MT 9 front wheel keeps coming up. Z has longer wheelbase.......
@_Moto215
@_Moto215 Жыл бұрын
My OCD would steer me away from the MT09 gauge.
@wymonwatson1309
@wymonwatson1309 Жыл бұрын
I've never rode the z900, but my fz09 absolutely carves canyons and keeps up with sport bikes on the twistys, maybe you need to try different tires? Or maybe I just have my suspension tuned a little better
@supernova046
@supernova046 Жыл бұрын
2nd gen mt09 iconic hooligan bike,sounds amazing.hands down winner.
@pcat1000
@pcat1000 Жыл бұрын
The MTs' 3 cyl. motor has the BEST sounding growl.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
Its interesting how when you dont have to pay for the super expensive fairing pieces their becomes a higher budget for other things. One thing I like about these japanese companies is they bring a lot of competition. they try to put innovation in more useful places. But what I dont understand is how you got all that art getting like 45 mpg and yet its got a guage cluster that looks anchient. The kawasaki is z900 is better in the guages but its still this huge ugly box. I can buy a 250 dollar cell phone at best buy that is higher quality. These guys look like they tried to get the guage built for as little as possible. On a very high tech bike. 6 axis imu, cruise control on fz09 sp. Its a a minimalistic design but they sure werent minimalistic about these bezels on the side of the screen bro.
@dsofe4879
@dsofe4879 Жыл бұрын
Disagree on the 2nd and 3rd gen MT09 being comparable. Lower steering head, shorter forks, completely new frame and swingarm, it's an entirely new chassis and feels vastly different IMO.
@xiongster77
@xiongster77 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I had owned a 2018 mt09 and now a 2022 mt09. Is night and day, hitting the backcountry twisting. The 2022 feels confident like a Supersport.
@tobyh3681
@tobyh3681 Жыл бұрын
@@xiongster77 was wondering about the newer generations as far as stability in the corners. I’ve got a Gen1 FZ09 & while I really like it, I wish it felt better in the curves. If it felt like my former sportbikes, I’d love it.
@queenslander954
@queenslander954 3 күн бұрын
MT stands for Massive Torque & midrange is where we ride 80% of the time .. but there’s nothing wrong the Zed , it’s a legend & you wouldn’t kick either out of bed .. this is a great comparison, because it’s not easy.
@IDontKnow-bb6mt
@IDontKnow-bb6mt Жыл бұрын
Can't get past the weight of the Kawi. Mt09 is my choice.
@Snotroggel453
@Snotroggel453 Жыл бұрын
Just put a full exhaust on the z and you’ll cut about 8kg of weight. The weight also makes the bike alot more stable on the highway.
@albertomartinezpena7700
@albertomartinezpena7700 11 күн бұрын
Las Kawasakis las reinas jajajaja lo dudo mucho. Hay otra moto deportiva mejor. En velocidad le supera la Nighster de Harley Davidson. Cuando la Kawasaki Z900 corre a 260 km/h la otra supera más de 280 km/m. Lo siento pero no me vale la propaganda
@Bo0cky
@Bo0cky Жыл бұрын
Thx for the Clip..im going to Test Drive the z900 at the Weekend..im very excited
@donaldduck9424
@donaldduck9424 Жыл бұрын
And the winner is.... Street Triple RS. Cause it's even more planted to the road than the Z900 is. For me the engine is more entertainig than that of yamaha and z900 and last but not least i miss quickshifter and blipper on the kawasaki. Never thought i would. But you get used to it and it's loads of fun. Brillant review by the way.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Жыл бұрын
I just feel like that bike has bad omens
@josevi5835
@josevi5835 Жыл бұрын
Tried both and I currently own a XSR900 first gen. Both bikes are fantastic. The Z has a smoother engine and more comfortable suspenssion. The Yamaha has a tremendous engine (always ready to accelerate and full of torque) and feels more nimble. I frankly do not know Kawasaki consumption but the MT does 60 mpg. Incredible perfect bikes, I would own both.
@yourwifesboyfriend6081
@yourwifesboyfriend6081 Жыл бұрын
Must be riding like a grandma to get that fuel economy lol
@josevi5835
@josevi5835 Жыл бұрын
@@yourwifesboyfriend6081 Yeah, I drive like a grandma, but I am a grandpa. More important than the miles per hour are the smiles per minute. And I try to enjoy driving with all my bikes. I also own a Monkey 125 and it is a pleasure to drive it.
@BeyondPrideMF
@BeyondPrideMF Жыл бұрын
@@josevi5835 Beautifully said.
@jeromemalone9188
@jeromemalone9188 Жыл бұрын
where did you get the MT09 windscreen? is it effective?
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve 4 ай бұрын
It probably a Puig windscreen
@sonny_z900
@sonny_z900 19 күн бұрын
I have a 2022 Z900 with lower seat of an older model which fits too because I'm short. I've got 92.2kw/125.4HP and not 114hp you've mentioned. Mayby there a difference between an US bike an a EU bike?
@gdevelek
@gdevelek Ай бұрын
It's funny how we're always told about the bikes that have "linear" power/torque, but never about the other bikes. What do THEY have? Sinusoidal? Parabolic? Hyperbolic? Please clarify. And show dyno charts that support your claims.
@county_bear9509
@county_bear9509 15 күн бұрын
I like the z900 because its sporty, comfortable for about an hour and imo looks great. I never really got along with the mt09 style. Sure its a little heavy for the class. but it handles well and I know that I and most people cant use the bike to its fullest anyways.
@tomdelange6095
@tomdelange6095 9 күн бұрын
15:00 The breaking from letting go of the throttle is customizable at some bikes. If you go to a dealer or tuner with a DynoJet they can turn the "spraying fuel thing" on. So it wont break your back when you let go off the throttle
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