🎹 Yamaha P145 vs Roland FP10 Digital Piano Comparison, Review & Demo 🎹

[@Zoco101]

Another very professional review from Stu at Merriam.

[@MerriamPianos]

Thank you kindly! We're glad you enjoyed it! :)

[@grezchannel2103]

I just went to the store and tried playing yamaha P145 and Roland FP30X. Initially I wanted a Roland but after playing all the keys and feel the touch, I made up my mind. I choose P145, the graded hammer and sound system is just wow. Roland sounds too artificial and the touch totally isn't my preference. I thought I wanted Roland after watching so many reviews on KZbin. But you have to try it yourself playing both of them at the store! The sound differs from the ones in YT. But if you want to record a lot, just go for Roland! Again, it's all based on preferences =D

[@MerriamPianos]

Absolutely! It is a really personal and subjective matter. That is why it is important to test out the pianos in person whenever possible. Congrats on your new piano and happy playing! :)

[@KearnsAK]

I had the same experience. I used to own a Clavinova. Sold it because was moving. Watched KZbin videos and bought the FP30X, and found it also to have that artificial, generally "keyboard", sound you mentioned.

[@DimzReacts]

I tried both in store too, the Roland felt way too hard, and the lower keys sounded muffled. The p145 sounded beautiful and felt better to me

[@tedreynolds3338]

You made the correct choice.

[@Traumglanz]

I did the same, now I want an ES-920 😢 That's like twice the budget I originally wanted to spend.

[@robintyson591]

Great. It's such a personal thing and, as you always say, people must go and FEEL and LISTEN to them. I'm afraid I had a Yamaha. Never again. Spent my life using the soft pedal to get rid of the brittle harshness of the sound. Switched to Kawai (love it) and, at my mother's home, the FP10. Very satisfied. Great sounds (all of them) and a very satisfying action. Speakers have never worried me - I've played for quite large groups of people with the keyboard. I like the relatively low weight too. I use my mother's walker to move the piano around her retirement complex to play for them all! But the headphone output is very weak, so (and I have three different sets - including Bose and Grado and Sennheiser) I never got the volume I wanted from them. Love the new Roland app as well.

[@MerriamPianos]

Thanks for sharing your experiences and insights! We appreciate it. The ES120 and FP10 are both exceptional pianos that simply offer a slightly different musical flavour and feel. Both of them present excellent cost-to-value ratio of course though! Thanks so much once again and happy playing! :)

[@Zoco101]

​@@MerriamPianosES120? Not mentioned it seems.

[@mfurman]

The headphone output of most of the digital pianos is too low but FP-10 is very bad in this respect (P-225 is not much better and Casio PX-S5000 is even worse). I use Sennheiser HD 600 and HiFiMan headphones.

[@GaryDubois-g4f]

Weird I think the headphones output on the roland fp10 is quite good.

[@robintyson591]

@@GaryDubois-g4f Maybe it's my headphones? I use Grado.

[@crimpingpliers]

there are lot youtube videos about fp10 or p145 and also comparison videos. but this one is by far most professional and informative. thank you!

[@MerriamPianos]

Thank you kindly! We really appreciate those kind words. All the best and happy playing! :)

[@mfurman]

All I can say is that after three weeks, I returned Yamaha P-225 (slightly better P-145) and got FP-10 ACR (in a Costco bundle). I went through quite a few digital pianos in the last three years (including Roland FP-90X and Yamaha P-515) but I am back to the basic PHA-4 action keyboard that I use as a MIDI controller for my piano VSTs. I am only interested in acoustic piano sound without any bells and whistles. PHA-4 action appeared to be relatively close to Yamaha C7 grand piano action that I regularly practice on.

[@matiaserp]

Agreed: the PHA-4 Standard is a really good action regardless of price.

[@MerriamPianos]

The PHA4 holds up as an amazing and impressive action for playing at any level. As you mentioned, it really isn't all about price and quality tier. Sometimes, more inexpensive actions/pianos can provide a more satisfying musical experience. :)

[@acoustic61]

I have an FP-30X and have been playing around with VST's too. It opens up a whole new world. Especially when you get bored with piano. I wish Roland supplied better quality samples for the other sounds. But I guess that's how they tempt you to upgrade to a higher model.

[@Philip---pip267]

I purchased the Roland only recently, without trying out the competitors, and relying on research alone, - a bit of a gamble as I had never even sampled the Roland's action. I must say, I think I made the right choice, as i wanted the most realistic action as a priority over features and in built sound. Im more than satisfied, having since tried the yamaha and a similarly priced korg.

[@MerriamPianos]

Congrats on your new Roland! They are wonderful pianos with excellent touch and tone. I think you will be thrilled with the investment for many years to come. Thanks for tuning in and sharing your experiences! :)

[@franksmith541]

I agree. The Roland FP 10 has the best action for that price you will ever get. I was floored by how good it is after owning a Yamaha P 45 and a P 145. You have to spend 3000 on a Yamaha digital to get action as good. If you hold a key with thumb and second finger, bring it down a bit and jiggle it, you can feel hammers banging around inside the keys. That is fantastic and gives it an authentic grand piano feel, together with the textured keys - which you never get on other brands of this price. The Yamaha P 145 is no where near as good, and the keys make a rattling sound. With the FP 10 the keys are fairly quiet when playing on low volume without headphones. I know, because when I do a video recording I hardly hear any sound from the keys, but with the P 145 I was hearing loud rattling sounds. I have way more control when playing the FP 10 compared to the P 145, because the latter's action is lighter and no where near as good.

[@Philip---pip267]

​@@franksmith541 thank you. 4 months later on and i'm still over the moon with it. The PHA 4 action plus optional use as a midi controller were the only things I was bothered about. It's for home use not stage, and if you really want more powerful and rich sound you can always use an amplifier with external speakers. And more sounds are optional too by the app if required. I did get the chance to compare the yamaha afterwards, and I never expected to find such an incredible difference. Well pleased. I have since purchased the authentic Roland wooden stand and seat. It looks great in the dining room.

[@franksmith541]

@@Philip---pip267 I also got the wooden stand. It looks good in the living room. This really is an instrument for piano players interested in good sound and, most importantly, an authentic action.

[@SamSam_From]

Thanks Stu! So happy with my Roland FP-10 purchase a month ago based on your videos! still can't believe the price diffrence though, i got it brand new for 380 Euros which is about 410 bucks US, not 600. Anyway, really glad to see the Roland still is a good choice even if it is an older model :)

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi! Brent here! Congrats on your FP10! It sounds like you got a great deal on a really fantastic instrument. The price points do vary from market to market of course, but it sounds like the pricing is very attractive where you are. :)

[@karanbhatia2834]

@sammie_nl Could you let me know where did you get FP 10 for 380?

[@SamSam_From]

@@karanbhatia2834 It was at bax music in the Netherlands

[@Traumglanz]

I think the big thing about the US prices is that they are before discounts from the stores. And you get huge discounts on Pianos in north america, while you are lucky to get a 5% discount in europe. MSRPS are mutter far less in the states and are very inflated. At least that is what I remember from one of the videos here.

[@Traumglanz]

@@karanbhatia2834 Thomanns regular price for the FP-10 is 399€ It seems just the normal price range for that FP-10, 20% vat included. Same for the Yamaha P145. So remember to ask for your discounts in the united states.

[@acoustic61]

You do good unbiased reviews! IMO, Roland is genarally a better value. You get more useful features for the money. I bought an FP-30X for less than either of these. Yamaha is almost never discounted. I do wish both companies would include better sounding samples on lower end pianos. The Roland Piano App gives more sounds to play around with but most of them are not high quality. Hopefully, over time, they'll improve some of the sounds on the App. I've been experimenting with MIDI and VST's. Some VST's are very good. BTW, I've seen a lot of reviews for the Yamaha DGX-670. I think people tend to be gaga over the quality of the samples and disregard it's shortcomings.

[@MerriamPianos]

Congrats on your FP30X! It is a heckuva piano with a great touch, tone, and speaker system. Knowing Roland, I am quite confident that you'll see continuous updating of their apps and additional features. They are always on the cutting edge when it comes to these things. :)

[@mahbodna]

Thanks for your nice and professional review 👌👌👌

[@MerriamPianos]

You're very welcome! Thank you for taking the time to check out our videos and channel! We appreciate it. :)

[@richarpadilla1891]

Great video as always Stu ! your advice is very important to me as a pianist !

[@MerriamPianos]

Thanks for tuning in! We're happy to hear you enjoyed Stu's review! :)

[@crisoliveira2644]

1:19 That actually appears to be the PHA-4 Concert, not PHA-4 Standard. Standard is the one in slab models like the FP10.

[@MerriamPianos]

Yes - Roland does not have a formal stock image of the PHA4 standard, so I believe this image was used as a place holder. We usually put a disclaimer at the bottom of the diagram to specify when another generation of the action is used in place of the one being discussed. Apologies for missing that this time!

[@briandsteel6711]

Thank you for a VERY intelligent and interesting comparison review. I have just ONE comment I hope you will take on board ... the issue of Key PIVOT length! As a professional musician (pianist, MD, others stuff too), is possibly one of the MOST important things in any keyboard I would consider playing. Like, give me a Steinway Model D for starters, and work back from there. However, I also need keyboards that don't cost the earth, to chuck in the back of a car for an ad-hoc outdoor gig. But still NEED those to have flexible, natural, LONG-PIVOT actions, because YES - I consider ANY part of the exposed parts of the keyboard, to be my playing surface. And on THIS one aspect, and based on your video, AND as a life-long Yamaha player - I think the Roland FP10 wins out here! But again, THANKS. Great comparative review. But please always bear in mind, even PROS want cheap keyboards for dodgy locations! :-)

[@MerriamPianos]

Thank you for tuning in and for the feedback! Every player is a bit different of course and different elements will be more/less important to to different players. With that said, we do our best to tackle all of the pertinent topics to make sure that everyone feels informed about the design elements that they prioritize or consider important. To that point, I think a deep dive video that tackles pivot lengths of various digital piano actions would be extremely exciting and compelling! Thank you for the suggestion. We really appreciate it! :)

[@hyperseah]

Has anyone opened up a P-145 or P-225 and check if the keys are pivoted or hinged? By hinged I mean the key has a flexible part bending instead of a pivot pin. I briefly tried it at a Yamaha Music School, and it felt like the key is still flexing on a thin section of plastic. But when it comes to speakers, I like Yamaha best because it has a pair of tweeters.

[@MerriamPianos]

I am not entirely sure to be honest. Perhaps, we will need to tackle a video where we pull the actions on these various pianos to investigate. :)

[@hyperseah]

@@MerriamPianos That would make a great video.

[@filipelopes2450]

Hello firend! Nice review. Let me ask you something: I'm a beginner, I want a piano for studies. I'm thinking about the FP-10 or the Yamaha P-145 or the P-125. I think I will use it with phones but also the speaker is important for me, the sound. Here in Brasil they are almost the same price. Which one you recommend me?

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much! For me, the Roland FP10 is the superior piano both sonically and in terms of action. The combination of the PHA4 action and SuperNATURAL tone engine makes it a home run in my books. :)

[@pepsy622]

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[@filipelopes2450]

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[@VV-wd5to]

Good evening. Please tell me, have you heard the sound live Yamaha and Roland, where it is better in Yamaha p145, they say, because Roland speakers are down and the sound is muffled or is it not so and the keyboard is clear that in Roland it is better, but for a beginner the first year will the keyboard from Yamaha be enough or is it too soft, and the teacher says the keyboard should be heavy. Thank you.

[@MerriamPianos]

The PHA4 action of the FP10 is far more authentic feeling in my opinion. In terms of tone, it is important to note that the P145 is brighter in general. The FP10 has a more neutral, transparent tone, which arguably contributes to the overall sonic experience more than the speaker system.

[@stevenwarner9156]

Nice little comparison. Your reviews are part of the reason I ended up choosing an FP-10 a month ago. The speakers are definitely extremely mediocre, but the sound over headphones is absolutely fantastic. The action is very good, but the keys are a fraction sluggish in returning to neutral. Fast trills or repeated notes can take some getting used to, and your speed for fast repeated notes might be hampered a bit compared to other actions. But, it feels like a minor issue that might matter to some but likely not most.

[@MerriamPianos]

Thank you kindly! We appreciate the kind words as well as you sharing your insights. The FP10 is a powerhouse instrument for the money. I know what you mean about having to get used to the heavier touch and slower key return, but there are also benefits to this of course. I personally feel this provides a far greater sense of control and connectivity compared to very light digital piano actions.

[@stevenwarner9156]

@@MerriamPianos I absolutely agree with it being a powerhouse for the money. An action this solid at THIS price? Pretty much worth the price of admittance in itself. Anyway, always great to see your videos. Hope you have a good weekend!

[@KaziMamun]

Hi, thanks for the video. In your opinion, which one is the winner in terms of key feeling and resistance difference?

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! The FP10 is a heavier, more authentic action in my opinion. It is tough to compete with the FP10 at this price point. :)

[@KaziMamun]

@@MerriamPianos thanks a lot Brent. What about Casio PX S1100 vs Roland FP10 or FP30X? Which one would you choose?

[@UncleBenPackWatch]

Arriving on Tuesday im excited!! Ive gone from a KORG B1 to a ROLAND FP-30X i've done all my research and am really excited will it be a significant notice in upgrade as its almost double the KORG,s price back when i got it years ago. Just wanted your opinion also love the channel 😊

[@MerriamPianos]

Congrats! The FP30X is a powerhouse! You will be beyond thrilled with what it offers musically. Thanks for tuning in and all the best! :)

[@UncleBenPackWatch]

@@MerriamPianos thanks for the swift reply and extra bit of confidence that I've chosen what's right for my needs!

[@stenaldomehilli8809]

I still insist that someone should let Roland know, that their Supernatural sound engine does better in terms of reproducing the authenticity of an acoustic than their newly modeled generator in the FP-90X. If one really works in the supernatural engine and fixes a few things i'm sure that sound engine will deserve a top place in all their most expensive pianos. It does sound good! I purchased the FP30 almost 4 years ago also thanks to Stu's splendid reviews, but it was really easy to see how well done that piano sound was compared to the competition. Now 4 years later it still holds its place with ease, showing us again how stalled the technology of digital piano making really is. Thanks as always!

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the kind words and support! I know Stu and our production team appreciate them immensely. We're happy to hear that you are still enjoying your Roland FP30. It is a fantastic piano with a great touch and tone! While there are many pianists out there that share your sentiments about the SuperNATURAL tone engine, tonal preferences are very subjective. The context of use also matters too of course. Some players find the SuperNATURAL tones to be more authentic given their sample-based infrastructure. With that said, the Pure Acoustic Piano Modelling engine on the FP90X has its fanbase (and for good reason!). It is extremely flexible and offers immense customization. It is particularly a strong preference for players in the pop realm or gigging with ensembles. With that said, it all comes down to finding a tone that you resonate with. It sounds like you have found that in the SuperNATURAL engine, which still holds up as one of the most natural-sounding and best value engines on the market. Thanks again and happy playing! :)

[@stenaldomehilli8809]

Brent it’s very meaningful that you take the time to respond to people’s questions and ideas in your channel. I wonder if that’s better than your musical reviews! Thanks a lot ! I think the authenticity of reproducing a certain sound cannot be subjective. Something either sounds like something else or it doesn’t. But that aside people might like sounds which bring their own quality in the world of pianos and every other instruments for that matter. The modeled pianos from Roland do just that. The sampled ones from Nord do the total opposite. It’s good we can choose but it would also be good if the digital piano companies would speed up their game and close at least slightly the gap with VSTs. @@MerriamPianos

[@unotoli]

Quite a surprise to see FP-10 holding on. But unless you are 100% about VST (mini only), FP-30X is much better choice (sound, speakers and even features).

[@MerriamPianos]

The FP30X is certainly a step up, but the FP10 still holds up as a fantastic option for the price point! :)

[@lumpichu]

Or the ES-120 :)

[@mfurman]

I indeed only use piano VSTs sound so FP-10 is a much better choice for me. I just need a MIDI controller

[@danielnadar75]

Thanks for the video❤ I own the FP-10 from past 2.5 years and i love it, it’s the best investment of the limited funds i had when i decided to start learning piano! Now I’m at an intermediate level and will be late intermediate level but the end of this year and have decided to get a kawai GL-10 in 4-5 months time as a reward to all the time I’m spending on this beautiful instrument. With that said I’ll still keep my favourite FP-10 with me for silent practice late nights or early morning or to record my playing! Just wanted to know how were you able to capture the FP-10 sound directly as line out? If I’m not wrong it doesn’t that direct line out hence i use it as midi to record in GarageBand. Is that feature got added to FP-10 recently??

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi there! Brent from Merriam Music here! We're glad you enjoyed the video. :) The Kawai GL10 is an amazing piano and unquestionably one of the best cost-to-value ratios on the market right now. I know you will be very happy with that model! Furthermore, I think it is a great idea to keep the FP10 to serve as a portable or silent practice option when needed. In terms of capturing the direct line-out sound, that is achieved by taking the headphone output. While this output is usually lower output than a dedicated line-out, it still serves as a direct output feed from the tone engine. Thanks and hope this helps!

[@franksmith541]

The Roland FP 10 has the best action for that price you will ever get. I was floored by how good it is after owning a Yamaha P 45 and then a P 145. You have to spend 3000 on a Yamaha digital to get action as good. If you hold a key with thumb and second finger, bring it down a bit and jiggle it, you can feel hammers banging around inside the keys. That is fantastic and gives it an authentic grand piano feel, together with the textured keys - which you never get on other brands of this price. The FP 10 also has a better piano sound. The Yamaha P 145 is no where near as good, and the keys make a rattling sound. With the FP 10 the keys are fairly quiet when playing on low volume without headphones. I know, because when I do a video recording I hardly hear any sound from the keys, but with the P 145 I was hearing loud rattling sounds. I have way more control when playing the FP 10 compared to the P 145, because the latter's action is lighter and no where near as good.

[@MerriamPianos]

The Roland FP10 is quite the powerhouse that greatly outperforms its price tag - that is for sure! We're very happy to hear that you've discovered it and have been enjoying the model and its wonderful PHA4 action. Thanks so much and happy playing! :)

[@filipelopes2450]

And what about the speakers of each? The speaker of the FP 10 is good?

[@ylberazizaj]

I must say... from all the features and also the way the FP10 is built, also from watching this video the sound of the FP10 sounds way more rich than the sound of the P145. I'm about to get Keys again and think the FP10 might be the better choice... Thank you for this great video

[@MerriamPianos]

You are very welcome! Thank you for watching! We appreciate it! The FP10 is an awesome piano and is definitely worth consideration! :)

[@pieterdeliho1492]

Fp-10 it is. If the action is that good. I like the slow return since it closely resembles a real acoustic piano.

[@MerriamPianos]

Absolutely! The FP10 is very difficult to compete with at this price point. It has a wonderful touch and tone! :)

[@knives6683]

Roland FP and HP must be getting close to a refresh. @miriam, is there any murmers?

[@MerriamPianos]

We have not received any updates from Roland on that front, but we will keep you posted if we do! :)

[@mfurman]

Stu made a mistake. PHA-4 middle C downweight is at least 63g not “middle 50s”. I had four digital pianos with PHA-4 action. Here are the values for my FP-10 ACR: Action: Middle C (C4) - 67g C7 - 53g C6 - 59g C2 - ~66g C3 - 65.5g C4# - ~53g - 67g (middle of black key) ~ 94 g to get the sound (T) C4; C2, C3 - 90g, C6 - 79g, C7 - 74g (S)

[@MerriamPianos]

Thanks for clarifying! Stu was approximating of course in the video, but these exact values are appreciated. :)

[@liammautner3063]

Is a P525 review/comparison coming soon?

[@MerriamPianos]

Yup - it is in the queue!

[@tudorverde]

Very good comparison for the 2 keyboards I want to choose from. I would like to plug the keyboard into a Big sky mx effect pedal, I guess I can do this with each one of them.

[@MerriamPianos]

Thank you kindly! Yup - the headphone output can also be used as a line out for both of these pianos. :)

[@SeanNeale]

Looking for a value option for some silent nighttime practise and probably going with the Roland or a Kawai ES120. When I upgrade the acoustic piano would you recommend the Kawai GL10 or save the extra and get a K800?

[@MerriamPianos]

The FP10 and ES120 are both excellent choices! The decision between a GL10 and K800 is a highly personal and subjective matter of course. Personally, I would choose the K800 as it is a higher quality instrument and soundboard, which leads to a nicer, more nuanced tone (which is saying something considering how great the GL10 sounds!). But, a grand piano comes with its benefits of course: the feel of the action thanks to gravity and the aesthetic factor.

[@SeanNeale]

@@MerriamPianos thank you for the detailed answer : )

[@immanuelmoorthy4434]

Hi Bro thanks for the review..can you or someone clarify is this piano is enough to finish all RSL or Trinity grade examinations...im planning to buy it for my daughter pls advise..it would be really useful..pls support..god bless you..

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! While the FP10 has a wonderful touch that can satisfy the needs of higher level playing, there are some limitations. Firstly, the FP10 is only capable of single pedal support. Higher level repertoire will require a triple pedal system. If you're looking for a comparable instrument that has triple pedal capabilities, the Roland FP30X is worth exploring.

[@immanuelmoorthy4434]

@@MerriamPianos thanks for the reply Ben..in FP30X can we able to finish all grade exams ??RSL or Trinity...pls clarify

[@thelongislandguy]

Since these instruments have mechanical actions what is the maintenance requirement to keep those actions playing well?

[@MerriamPianos]

The best thing you can do is to play the piano regularly truthfully. Beyond that, there are some components that might eventually need replacing/repair just like an acoustic piano, but that is usually way down the line and something that should be handled by a qualified piano technician.

[@DonguriGaming]

Which key action among digital piano's in a budget have the best fast single note repetition? RH3, PHA-4 or other?

[@MerriamPianos]

The RHC action on the ES120 is very quick and responsive in terms of repetition. With that said, it is a little lighter and does not feature escapement like the RHIII and PHA4 actions.

[@blu3bat84]

So the keys of the yamaha feel less heavy? Bc I prefer heavier action.

[@MerriamPianos]

In my experiences, the FP10 is a heavier touch, which feels more authentic to my fingers. However, this is a very subjective matter of course. :)

[@badmintonstuff2053]

Didnt mention the triple pedal unit compatibility in the p145 vs the single damper on the fp10. Can that deficiency be overcome in the fp10 using midi?

[@MerriamPianos]

That is an important consideration. The FP10 is not compatible with a triple pedal system. It is restricted to the single sustain pedal.

[@MattJ-n8n]

Too many people report PHA 4 notorious clicking action noise problem - from basic FP10, through FP 30, up to more expensive RP series. Its seems universal, and ragged from Rolands side. Their narration (now) is to blame the customer. Firstly they said, it was fault of vertical storage at container ship, now it switched to at home closets. For me, the situation is not a synonym for a serious company. Personally - PHA 4 action is too slow, too heavy and not so responsive throuout. Kawai; even basic RHC, doing much better job, even on entry level price point

[@mfurman]

I agree that PHA-4 is noisy. GHC action is probably the most quiet action I played but I still ended up with PHA-4 because it is actually relatively similar to an acoustic piano action. I stopped paying attention to the noise of the action (Yamaha C7 action is even noisier and I usually play on FP-10 ACR with my headphones on.

[@damorim]

@yamaha-bq9ws, What do you mean by “too many people”? Do you have stats on that?

[@MattJ-n8n]

@@mfurman If so, I would compare PHA 4 action to an upright - slightly unregulated, clunky, older, heavy action upright. Nowhere near to lighter grand piano action. I do agree though, that yamahas { any } grand piano is more on heavier side in terms of touch.

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi - Brent from Merriam Music here. I believe this to be a bit of a fallacy based on our experiences with the Roland line and models that utilize the PHA4 action. In fact, upon doing a thorough report on warranty claim rates across all of the piano lines/models we represent, I can confirm that the PHA4 action has one of the lowest warranty claim rates of any action at any price point. Beyond the PHA4 action's reliability, it is also one of the most authentic feeling actions on the market that is available in the entry-level price range. While some players may find the action to be on the heavy side, this can often be a byproduct of not having much experience with acoustic pianos. A heavier touch is better for technique building and also provides a greater sense of connectivity to the player, which, in turn, allows them to control articulations and dynamics far better. Like anything new of course, it does take a bit of time to adapt to a heavier touch though. But the benefits are very worth while!

[@MattJ-n8n]

@@damorim On most popular piano forum, as well as on youtube. Search for PHA 4 clicking problem and see some shorts - many shall I say. It ranges basic FP line of pianos, up to more expensive RP and HP. From east to west of the globe. Some elements of action are flawed, and Roland burden the blame on customers

[@JebbyJoseph]

Is the click problem in fp10 solved ?

[@MerriamPianos]

Personally, aside from isolated incidents, I have not experienced a clicky key problem with the FP10 or PHA4 action. In fact, the PHA4 action has one of the lowest warranty claim rates across every single manufacture/model that we carry. Given that the PHA4 action is a heavier action with pronounced escapement, there will be some mechanical noise, but this is the case with virtually all actions (including acoustic piano actions, which can be demonstrated on acoustic hybrids that have a silencer on them).

[@mfurman]

I do not think that is. I can always create the conditions that this noise is very clearly heard. It gets worse when you play for an hour or so. Check the video Roland FP-10 (PHA-4) Action Noise Test

[@brightenjacob]

Please review Keybird X1 soon.. 😅😅

[@MerriamPianos]

I was just recently made aware of this model by a customer. It seems quite interesting. Unfortunately, we are not dealers, so it may be tough to tackle this review. As always, we will do our best. :)

[@ChrisSanchez-bw5np]

I would like to year the roon mic, i can't find a video of this 😅

[@MerriamPianos]

Thanks for the suggestion! We will do our best to feature the room microphone sound more. However, it is important to note that the microphone type and room will influence the sound greatly, so it may not be the best reference point for how it will sound in your particular home/room.

[@Zoco101]

I thing it's cool that the FP10 has a basic sequencer for recording what you play onto a thumb drive. Yamaha and Korg don't offer this at entry level, and Kawai doesn't even have a model near this low pricepoint.

[@MerriamPianos]

The Roland FP10 is quite the instrument when you consider its price tag! :)

[@CaptNouzen]

is fp10 still worth it rn? since they released it on 2018 please help me T-T they cost 545$ on my country

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi! Brent here! In my opinion, the FP10 is still one of the best value buys on the market right now. The combination of touch and tone is quite impressive. :)

[@AxelgaelHernandezSantiago]

Hello, I am a 14 year old boy, which of the two do you recommend, I am an intermediate level

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi! Brent here! It comes down to personal preference, but I would personally give the edge to the FP10. I prefer the SuperNATURAL piano tone engine and PHA4 action. I feel like they are more authentic sounding/playing. :)

[@AxelgaelHernandezSantiago]

Thank you. So in your opinion, do you recommend the fp10? Since it is useful for presentations at school or graduations, for songs like Ballad for Adelina or Corazón de Niño and that is why I want a piano with a sound that resembles a professional piano.

[@AxelgaelHernandezSantiago]

@@MerriamPianos If then you tell me that the fp10 is better because I need one that is a little professional because I use it to play at graduations and I want one that resembles a grand piano

[@AxelgaelHernandezSantiago]

¡Holalá, answer me hehe

[@chrishalle1982]

Im still very satisfied with my FP10

[@MerriamPianos]

That is awesome to hear! It is a very wonderful piano with tons of value packed into it! :)

[@sonic2000gr]

I suspect the FP10 wins on the action and the Yamaha on sound. I find the PHA4 action very playable. You need to go higher on the Yamaha line for something similar. Having said that I really love the action and sound of my P515! The prices for both P145 and FP10 in Europe are about the same (about 10 euros apart). In my opinion it's worth paying just a bit extra for FP30X or P225.

[@mfurman]

I had to return P-515 after a few months because the heaviness of NWX action impacted my fingers (especially fifth digits)

[@sonic2000gr]

@@mfurman I had no prior experience with weighted actions before (just synth actions) and before buying I've read about this. It felt a bit awkward and heavy at first but I'm now used to it and believe it's really excellent.

[@mfurman]

@@sonic2000gr NWX action is heavier that what an acoustic piano should be - C4 downweight is 85g.

[@Zoco101]

@sonic2000gr Well said! I agree. I can't get used to the old FP sounds, and then the FP10 speakers make it worse. The FP-30X is much better.

[@mfurman]

@@Zoco101 The sound does not matter to me because I always use my piano VSTs. This is why I returned/sold both FP-90X and P-515 - their features were completely irrelevant to me.

[@toptrump1499]

Hello please can you help. Does the Roland piano have a line out? like a 1/4" jack cable that can be connected to a line in section of a PA. I'm looking for a keyboard to use for gig nights, that can be easily connected to a PA system. I would really appreciate anyone's help and advice. Many thanks

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi! Brent here! Thanks for the question! The FP10 does not have a dedicated line out, but you can use the headphone output as a line out. This will allow you to connect the FP10 to an external amp or PA system. However, when taking the headphone line out feed, it will eliminate the onboard speakers from sounding.

[@toptrump1499]

@ hello Brent, thanks for responding so quickly. So am I right in thinking that I can use a standard jack lead going from the ‘phones’ out of the piano, to then be plugged into a MONO of a PA mixer? Sorry, I’m new to all this stuff

[@amirprog]

Fp10 is better for advanced playing because of the action but on the other hand, advanced player should buy something better...

[@calikokat100]

such as ?

[@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12]

​@@calikokat100something with the PHA50 if you're in to Roland🎹🎶

[@MerriamPianos]

The FP10's PHA4 action is quite impressive, especially at this price point. The level of authenticity is virtually unparalleled within this price category. :)

[@amirprog]

@@calikokat100 pha-50, rh3, p-525 (forgot keybed model), numa x piano gt (forgot the fatar model), nord grand (modified rh3). If you don't care about portability - mp11se.

[@mfurman]

⁠I actually prefer PHA-4 to PHA50 and Yamaha both GrandTouch-S and NWX. I used both PHA50 and NWX for about one year each. PHA-4 is very noisy but I like its touch.

[@laurent.8443]

in my country both of these sell for 380 euros (around 400 dollars). i'm still wondering which one i'm going for. yamaha p45 is 300 euros (315 dollars). i'm pretty lost tbh

[@MerriamPianos]

Hi there! They are both solid pianos, so it really comes down to what your musical preferences are. In my opinion, the Roland FP10 is the more authentic sounding/feeling piano. But, that is a matter of subjectivity of course. :)

[@laurent.8443]

@ i’ve mare my decision and will go try both in the store ! thx

[@matiaserp]

Roland could easily add the BMC chip and improve the speakers a bit and bam, FP-10X would be a tremendous success.

[@MerriamPianos]

It is interesting to see what Roland does with an update to the FP10. An FP10X as you described would be quite exciting! :)

[@Snow_Fink]

I dont know if you made a mistake on the pricing or something is weird here on Spain because here the prices are the other way around. The Roland is give or take 100€ cheaper on every store wich really makes it a really obvious pick.

[@MerriamPianos]

We are located in Canada. The price gaps do vary between different markets. :)

[@NPC123UH]

You’re my boy blue, stu

[@MerriamPianos]

Thanks for tuning in! :)

[@lennybellafiore1503]

Can that be right? $500 US but $799 Canadian? Canadian seems high. 699, maybe?

[@MerriamPianos]

The prices do vary from market to market. $849.99 is the current price for the FP10 and $799.99 is the current price for the P145 in Canada.

[@Roberto-qb2dj]

Ciao, mi diverto a provarli nel negozio di strumenti musicali. Preferisco la tastiera di Roland ed il suono di Yamaha. Il prezzo di Roland fp10 in Italia è davvero basso meno di 400,00 eur. Un vero best buy.

[@MerriamPianos]

For sure! It is always best to test pianos out and compare them in person whenever possible. I can certainly understand your preference being the FP10 for touch and P145 for tone. I tend to prioritize touch given that it is the invariable component of a piano. You can always plug a piano into an amplifier for more speaker power or access VST sample libraries via MIDI for different piano sounds, but you are stuck with the action ultimately.

[@marcog.4718]

caro io devo acquistare entro domani un piano digitale sono molto indeciso tra roland fp10 e yamaha p145 Mi interessa la tastiera che da come ho capito è leggermente migliore ma il suono come esce dalle casse del roland? Fa pena?

[@Roberto-qb2dj]

@@marcog.4718 Il p145 ha gli altoparlanti rivolti posteriormente, mentre Roland al di sotto del piano. Il primo quindi per dare il meglio di sé deve essere posizionato vicino ad una parete posteriore mentre per il secondo sarebbe meglio avere la sua struttura che comunque fa aumentare il prezzo. Un ottimo pianoforte digitale che ho provato è Casio px s1100, pochi suoni ma il pianoforte suona molto bene caldo e mai aspro. Inoltre permette di essere collegato a dei monitor esterni e questo aumenta in maniera esponenziale la qualità audio oltre al bluetooth e tanto altro. Sicuramente un best buy spendendo poco di più rispetto ai due modelli che hai citato. Tastiera davvero molto silenziosa con ivory feel. Nella scelta tienine conto. Nel Roland la regolazione del volume è scomoda. Devi provarli e poi scegli. Ricordati che l'aspetto più importante da considerare è la qualità della tastiera. Quella non la puoi cambiare, mentre per i suoni, se non sono di tuo gradimento puoi sempre scaricare strumenti VST. In ogni caso non aspettarti di sentire un vero pianoforte dalla riproduzione di piccoli altoparlanti. Se vuoi ottenere un risultato più che accettabile li devi collegare, come ti dicevo a dei monitor esterni meglio se collegati ad una scheda audio (in inglese audio interface). I due modelli che hai menzionato non hanno le uscite separate, tienine conto. Altrimenti devi andare su fp30x (decisamente superiore) o su Yamaha p225. Buona scelta.

[@m3rc743]

About time

[@MerriamPianos]

Thanks for tuning in! :)

[@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12]

Wonder why Yamaha desided to slim down the P45, and P125's replacements. This just makes me a lot more greatfull I got the DGX. Also great job on Kawai for givving the ES110's replacement what it really needed which is a stronger case. The ES110 always felt a bit flimzy. Yeah Kawai wasn't in this compareson. Just thought I mention what I've noticed🎹🎶

[@MerriamPianos]

Thanks for tuning in! A more streamlined enclosure has its benefits of course, particularly to gigging musicians, but, like most things in the realm of music/pianos, it comes down to personal preferences and priorities of the individual.

[@elsharkio]

The Roland clearly has a superior dynamic range. The yamaha sounds like a single velocity layer.

[@MerriamPianos]

There is greater dynamic response from the Roland PHA4 action in my experiences. :)

[@babibrain]

Yamaha sound very hard and unnatural.

[@MerriamPianos]

It comes down to a matter of preference of course. I tend to prefer the tone and touch of the FP10 as well. :)

[@geeemmz4823]

first

[@MerriamPianos]

:)

[@OldCanadianguy953]

14 watts versus 12 watts, nobody will hear the difference. The bare minimum the human ear can discern is typically 3dB. A 3dB change equates to a doubling of power level, look it up. So for anyone to hear the difference between 12 watts and 14 watts is laughable and sheer marketing rubbish.

[@MerriamPianos]

It is important to note that the power rating of a speaker system does not always correlate directly with decibel output or perceived volume. There are a number of factors at play of course. I do agree with your sentiment though. In most cases, marginal differences like this don't make a substantial difference in perceived volume. Perceived volume can be more pronounced by virtue of the frequency balance of the samples/speaker system for instance. For instance, more prominent upper mids and highs tend to yield a louder perceived sound.