Yamaha PSR-E463 GROOVE CREATOR: What's it all about?

The Groove Creator section of the E463 (And the PSR-EW410, with similar iterations on some other models) is a great way to experience and analyse effective ways to construct a song. It's not a simple and easy as you might think, so the Groove Creator is a good EDM learning tool.

[@tonygeddes9558]

Hi from the U.K. Bought myself a 463 a few days ago, I’m a total beginner. Thanks for this great little tutorial. I admit I’ve hardly used the keys yet, I’ve just been messing around with this feature. It’s a whole lot of fun!

[@gearfacts]

Thanks Tony, glad you liked it. I think I must have uploaded about 6 or 7 videos about this keyboard, all of them with some tutorial component so feel free to check them out. I had HEAPS of sounds and samples created and saved - would have sent them to you but doe to some unexplained data loss it's all gone :( Oh well :) #gearfacts

[@jordanlivesey4715]

a couple of days ago when I got my new psr e463 fresh out of the box for £249 I was up all night messing with the groove creator its so addictive

[@gearfacts]

I love mine :) gf

[@HubertEtAlice]

Hi nice video about a great feature of the PSR E463. IMO the Groove Creator goes way beyond the remixing of the 35 provided Grooves or Patterns. It can be really useful for composing songs or even gigging. Think about that: if you mute everything in the Groove excepted for the bass line, you’ve got 35x5 = 175 bass lines at your disposal (!) on which you can layer other instruments (synths or acoustic) that you will play with your right hand. Same thing with the drums: if you mute all tracks excepted for the drums, you’ve got 175 drum patterns at your disposal. The drums are even more flexible than the bass because they are not key sensitive, so it makes these drum patterns extremely flexible for composing or improvisation. As you are showing in the video, it s a great idea to experiment with the arpeggios on top of the Grooves but I think this is more suitable for composing than for improvising because to make this process really effective, as you’ve noticed yourself, you have to know which chord the groove is currently playing because obviously the chords played by the arpeggio should follow the chords played by the groove. Speaking of chords, let’s say that you start the Groove Creator on a C note, nothing prevents you from changing the tonality (switching tomF or G for instance) while you are playing. To achieve this, you must either mute the melodic tracks of the groove (because the melody already follows its own chord progression, so if you change the basic tonality of the tune, things might get too complex, harmonically speaking), or you must listen to the groove you want to use until you have a fairly good idea of its harmonic content. That way, the harmonic progression you will play will interact smoothly with the internal harmonic progression of the groove. As for the live knobs, as you said it is possible to apply its effects either to the solo played by the right hand, or to the accompaniment (in this case, the groove creator). Of course you can use not only the resonant filter, the reverb and the chorus, but also the 10 DSP, which again gives the player a lot of flexibility. And of course, even within the same composition, nothing prevents you from using different Grooves, this can even lead to some dramatic effects. Apart from the Part buttons and the Track buttons, there is yet another category of button which might come very handy: the Registration buttons. They can memorise which groove you want to use, which part of the groove you choose, even which tracks are muted or not. You can also program your right hand solo voice or arpeggio. That way, you can instantly switch between very different settings (even different tempos) for very dramatic effects. Just my 2 cents 😊 Looking forward to your next videos 😎👍🎹 Cheers

[@gearfacts]

Yep I agree with all your comments, especially about the basslines (and all other parts) being a great 'database' in a sense. There is plenty of inspiration to be drawn from the Groove Creator and i really wanted to emphasise in the video that it's not something that Yamaha just tacked on the end to make it more impressive to buyers - although it does that job pretty well too I'm sure! GF

[@SAZIZMUSIC]

Hello, i have a question. Can i also use the beats that i created by myself in the DAW to perform them like a DJ with this groove creator function ?

[@milanb4504]

Hi there, do you, Gearfacts or anyone else know if the grooves can be edited in terms of their actual rhythm i.e. manually programming it so that the actual rhythmic pattern of kicks and snares can be customised, like you qould do on a drum machine of sequencer?

[@HubertEtAlice]

@@milanb4504 Nope. The only keyboards which allow rhythm creation in the same price range as the PSR E463 are the Casio CT-X3000 and CT-X5000.

[@heroknaderi]

I enjoyed watching it. Now imagine when the e473 comes out what will possibly get improved. Excellent video 👍😁😁😁

[@gearfacts]

I think they are just going to add their 35-effects chip (which will be nice!) and the voice articulation button (not so useful imho)

[@1976oswald]

YEAH !!! that is the one that i have, and i love to use the filters specially with the strings sound

[@gearfacts]

Yeah I just bought another one coz I missed the one I used in this review. I've been really experimenting with sound lately, taking it to extremes, so I'll make another video about it soon discussing the outer limits of its synthesis capabilities :) GF

[@SamSon-xo1cj]

Thanks for the effort on the video. I just brought a PSR 410 (the 77 key version of this keyboard) because I thought I would want that Groove Creator feature. Have only had it a few days... but boy... what a ton of fun this feature is. I cannot remember the last time I have had so much fun at a piano !!! Thanks for the education !!! I will be looking for more if you have the time. Some such as playing some riffs (you showing the cords) that we can follow along with. Thanks again

[@gearfacts]

That's great feedback, Sam Son - Thanks for watching and I'm glad it's going so well for you :) Gearfacts

[@cuauhtemocacosta3156]

76 KEYS

[@hg8874]

I like the 12th (Euro Dance) that's one of the most beautiful among all grovve music.

[@Shitsurei-ib2no]

Hi, thanks for all your detailed videos about this keyboard. Great work! I have a candide double question: can you create your own drums patterns with the psr-e463, and is there a sequencer integrated to create your own loops?

[@gearfacts]

Sadly no! There's a feature that enables mixing of different bass and accompaniment with different rhyhms from the presets, but apart from that it's linear midi recording all the way. Glad you liked the videos! Gearfacts

[@Shitsurei-ib2no]

Thanks for the info. Looking forward for your next videos!

[@wellyjemat4481]

Saya suka

[@gearfacts]

Saya juga :)

[@SAZIZMUSIC]

Awesome!!! Sir i have a question. Can i also use beats that i created by myself in the DAW too to perform those beats like a DJ ? e.g can i mute and change the dynamics of those beats too by tweaking those two knobs and the switches as you are showing ?

[@gearfacts]

It won't work quite like a DJ rig, but essentially yes, i think you'll get what you're after.

[@SAZIZMUSIC]

@@gearfacts Thanks 😊

[@hikirari205]

3:17 whoa cool

[@namangaur14]

Hey Buddy 😊 !! I have Yamaha Psr e453 Is There Very Major Difference Between Both Of Them ?? Should I Upgrade??

[@gearfacts]

It's really only the sampler that is extra with the 463. There is not much else. Gearfacts

[@rickp3646]

Does it tell you what chords are being played so you can play along with it in this mode? And can I plug a mic into it and sing through the speakers?

[@gearfacts]

No and no :(

[@carlosgomes7884]

Hello, do you know if the difference between the psr 463 and the psr ew400 is more keys and more sound power of the psr ew400? Thx🇵🇹

[@gearfacts]

More keys on the 400 and no battery power. More sounds and also a sampling function on the 463 :) Gearfacts

[@raven89k]

Does the Casio CT-X700/800 have this function? Can you actually make some electronic music or the Yamaha is better for it?

[@gearfacts]

The Yamaha is ten times better for creating your own music, especially if it's in the EDM/groove style.

[@dagodanydominiqueanehoua1109]

Je veux créer mes propres son style avec des Drum kits. Comment faire cela. Merci

[@mirkomontaldo]

Hi, just got a PSR E 463. Is it possible to play the keyboard while using the groovee creator? I see you never touch the keys, but only using the controls on the panel. Thanks

[@gearfacts]

Good question! I should have answered in the video - yes you can play the keyboard while using Groove Creator :) #gearfacts

[@mirkomontaldo]

Gearfacts Thanks a lot. My one will come in some days. It seems a very good keyboard for the price. Cheers!

[@milanb4504]

Hi there, do you or anyone else know if the grooves can be edited in terms of their actual rhythm i.e. manually programming it so that the actual rhythmic pattern of kicks and snares can be customised, like you would do on a drum machine of sequencer?

[@gearfacts]

No, it can't do that sadly. You could sequence a song with custom percussion, from start to finish, but it sounds like you're talking about creating a style that can be looped and transposed as the song progresses. You can only do that with the presets.

[@andromeda41169]

is there a way to add your own sounds into groove creator?

[@johnfollis2357]

As of this comment, I still have my PSRE463. I know about the PSRE473. I know the both models have 35 grooves. No more and no less. So does this mean that you cannot actually create custom grooves from the ground up or upload custom grooves that have been downloaded into your keyboard?

[@gearfacts]

You can upload ten STY (user style) files, but you can't create a "Groove Creator" groove from the ground up, you can only tweak the material they've provided. As you are probably already thinking - The title "Groove Creator" is a bit misleading!

[@johnfollis2357]

@@gearfacts I figured so. Very very unfortunate. One can only imagine the fun you could have if you were able to create custom grooves. With that said, I did make a song with this keyboard. It is a Streets of Rage video game cover. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qojKiJWqfZajqqM&pp=ygUxam9obiBmb2xsaXMgc3RyZWV0cyBvZiByYWdlIGF1Z21lbm50ZWQgbW9ubmEgbGVzYQ%3D%3D

[@juhyunee]

Hi! I wanted to ask how do I play the left hand keys while using groove creator? When I press the left keys the music pitch changes.

[@gearfacts]

Hmm this is a good question, I've never thought about it. All I can guess is that you press the Voice button and hopefully the GrooveCreator will keep playing while in Voice mode, allowing you to play the keyboard as normal. But I have to admit I've never tried this!

[@juhyunee]

@@gearfacts i tried pressing the voice button then play but still didn't work😅

[@gearfacts]

@@juhyunee Yes I as afraid that would happen. I think when you're in the Groove Creator you have to play by its rules!

[@MyCHANNELwithDwayneRandom]

I just wish to get one of this. 😭😂

[@mokshamalhotra2332]

Ordered one today muhahahahahah 🤣🤣🤣

[@MyCHANNELwithDwayneRandom]

@@mokshamalhotra2332 Wooooh!! You don't have to brag about it WAHAHAHA. I'm so poor 😁😆

[@mokshamalhotra2332]

@@MyCHANNELwithDwayneRandom poor too bud. 😂 But I made 60% of the money writing research papers during the lockdown, and asked for the remaining 40 from my mum n dad

[@mokshamalhotra2332]

@@MyCHANNELwithDwayneRandom just teasin buddy hahaha😂

[@MyCHANNELwithDwayneRandom]

@@mokshamalhotra2332 I just hope everyone could do such competency in research 😂 I can only c*m on cam 😂😂😝

[@alexmandelli9297]

Hello... Nice Video.... Two questions, please? Does the Groove Creator use sounds inside the E463, or are they wave/sampled files? If they are from the PSR-E463, can I recall them from Midi and use them in my own Midifiles? Also Can I recall the Grove Creators "Phrases" from Midi??? Thank you so much....

[@gearfacts]

Hi Alex, the first answer is yes, the sounds do indeed come from the keyboard itself, they're not samples. As to whether you can extract the midi data for other synths, I'm only 80% sure that it's possible. I have a feeling that the Groove Creator function blocks midi signals out. I can't check right now as I don't have a 463 in the studio. If you look for Vicky (vbdx66) below in the comments, she really knows the technicalities. She's the one to ask :)

[@alexmandelli9297]

@@gearfacts Thank You so much!!! I will check!

[@alexmandelli9297]

@@gearfacts Thank You again! You are very helpful.... I am a Composer and have all source of New and Old Korg/Roland and Edirol Sound Modules hooked up to a laptop... I make Movie Themes Music, most the time, but also songs with Lyrics! :-) If and wen you have time, please check My Channel out... Thank you.... Have a Blessed Day! kzbin.infoplaylists

[@PakBudiTarigan]

Pls do edm with ctx800

[@Sandman-ne1gz]

Hi, can you drop the drums out of the groove on this? I play with a live drummer. Thanks

[@gearfacts]

Yep, you can mix any track in or out with one touch.

[@Sandman-ne1gz]

@@gearfacts great! Thank you 👍🎹

[@Sandman-ne1gz]

@@gearfacts does the groove show what key it's in please? Thanks

[@emeraldeyes9565]

What a shambles.

[@gearfacts]

Hmm... nope, I don't see how. Just some random comment I guess :)

[@marcomollica577]

L'unica grande pecca del groove mode, è che non suonano gli accordi in minore, riconosce solo gli accordi in tonalità maggiore, e quindi non puoi fare veri giri armonici o canzoni vere

[@barnumsfreak]

Madonna mia, perdonami ma mixi in maniera pietosa!!!

[@gearfacts]

pfft Sono sicuro che a Madonna non importa.