YAMAHA THR30II vs Positive Grid Spark! - Which one is the Best Practice Amp?

[@DarrellBraunGuitar]

Let me know which amp you are most interested in and if you own one of these, what you like about it! Enjoy!

[@doctorscoot]

I think the Yamaha if I was gonna buy one. I like it’s retro but modern look.

[@aereptiles2982]

I bought the spark after watching your review. I love the spark.

[@DDWyss]

I think I would have loved the Spark when I was 15 or 16. All the built in learning and play along capability would be incredible for a beginner or intermediate player. These days however, I would choose the Yamaha because I'm just looking for something with good, basic amp tone, and I like the stereo outs for recording applications.

[@downpickers7312]

I just sold a guitar to get the spark. Wish me luck!

[@michaelpainchaud15]

I’ve owned the Yamaha THR30II for over a year now. It is by far the amp I use the most at home. The tone it produces is very impressive for a small amp. It’s also a really nice looking amp too. My other two amps are a Katana 50 and a Hotrod Deluxe. The yamaha is just easier for around the house. You can take anywhere so you’re not annoying everyone else. It is really expensive for a practice amp but the quality of sound and build is great.

[@gamblore5148]

I have the THR 10II and love it - it is so ridiculously easy to set up and get an amazingly good sound that I have played my guitar so much more than I ever did since I bought it. It just works and makes me want to play. Sure I could fire up my gigging amp and set up my pedalboard, and try to turn it down to a level that sounds good and doesn't annoy my family... or I could close the door to my office after the kids are asleep, pull up a jam track on youtube and 30 seconds later I am rocking along on the Yamaha, sounding great and not waking the neighbourhood. Best gear purchase ever.

[@SybilDefense]

Plus it's also battery operated/ going mobile! Just learning about the thr 30II and the spark. Since I don't Need one, but do I want one... we shall see

[@gamblore5148]

@Ralph Reilly No the thr app just adjusts amps, effects presets etc.

[@slashtrio]

Sounds like my nights 🎸👍🏼

[@patledoc]

I have the THR30ll, because of the integrated wireless connection to the guitar ( with G10T) and also because of the tiny cute led lamps inside !

[@k-ondoomer]

The LEDs are mando

[@riverlandrez6300]

copy That….literalLY SHFT COMMAND 3

[@johanvannistelrooij9969]

I hate those leds. Wish I could turn them off..

[@bigjim421]

@@johanvannistelrooij9969 you can, under settings in app

[@SybilDefense]

Wireless connectivity? Ah oh... looks like I gotta start lobbying for another luxury device. "Honey.... "

[@EHCreative]

I had both the THR10 and the THR10C. I sold them both and bought the THR30II with the wireless Line6 plug. It was expensive yes but the best thing ive done. The convenience of being able to play anywhere without cables has increased the amount of time i get to play and practice.

[@earthspiritsong]

Wireless line 6 plug

[@bryanrivera1528]

Which Line 6 plug do you own?

[@EHCreative]

@@bryanrivera1528 the wireless G10

[@eirinn]

I have the smaller brother of the thr30 (thr10). Beautiful amp, and the tones you can get from that little box are insane. After the last firmware update we got a new tape delay fx and a more open cabinet set-up (like a mic further form the speaker) which makes the tones closer the sound of the first thr series.

[@genrlgadget]

I was on the eternal pre-sale waiting list for a Spark. Frustrated, I finally canceled the order and bought the Yamaha THR 10II. It's incredible. If you're on the fence...? Just go ahead and get one. You'll be really glad you did. The original is still the champ.

[@BuckFooka]

I pre ordered the Spark too. Finally got it, and after 2 months it died. Got a replacement issued, same problem popped up on Christmas Eve. Same problem twice in two months. Just waiting on my refund now. Don't buy the Spark if you are reading this. Yamaha or Boss Katana air for me.

[@sona3486]

1000% correct

[@zeppage4]

I got a Yamaha THR, it’s such an amazing amp for home use. Tones are great, it sounds surprisingly big despite the size, and it’s beautiful to look at, not an eye sore on my living room table. The headphone jack, auxiliary in for my phone, and effects are sipper useful for practicing or playing at home or when it’s late at night. I also use it as a stand alone speaker sometimes lol.

[@SoCalGuitarist]

the Positive Grid sound cloud is the real difference honestly. I've found so many amazing tones. The AI jam session stuff is fun too, and the ability to convert any KZbin video into chords is pretty neat, although I honestly don't use that function personally.

[@Pharesm]

That didn't really do anything for me, because Cabinet and driver were so poor like some of the cheap no-name stinkers you could find at Guitar center in the 80's. The sound is an embarrassment. Maybe if you used the teaching stuff, but I bought it thinking it would be a decent amp with FX.

[@pv3906]

​@@Pharesm😊

[@Jkaterchannel]

I have the Spark and it's a really fun "toy". Incredible value and well thought for jamming and experimenting with tones. Nice built too. That said, I used to have a THR 10 and I would say it is superior in many ways. One of them is that it is a fantastic audio interface. It worked flawlessly and the "flat" preset was amazing for keyboard and electronic drums (Roland, etc.) It also wins for sound quality when playing backing tracks. Lots of pro musician would use the THR, not so much the Spark AFAIK.

[@vin9976]

Is the THR 10 able to put out the same amount of sound as the Spark? Also, is it as easy to get sounds dialed in? My kid is getting into playing and I'm hunting for a long term amp for around 250$. He'll need to be able to truck the thing around a bit (he's 10) and his brother plays on a full drum set. Trying to figure out what'll work and ideally allow them to play together but also sound good. (I'm new to a lot of this so thanks for any info).

[@ssm445]

@@vin9976 I can only compare the Spark to the THR10II (20 Watts). You just can't crank the Spark to full loudness, it sounds terrible then. I'd say the usable max volume of the Spark compares to the 20 Watts Yamaha, so I guess the 30Watts Yamaha gets you more volume. Although none of them is meant to have gigging volume. I found that getting a good tone out of the Yamaha is a matter of seconds, while I could not find anything comparable on the Spark even after hours (and don't get me started on the community sounds that are plain terrible) Ymmv! As for carrying around: the Yamaha is metal, the Spark is wood, and not the solid one (probably glued chipboard?) The Yamaha made me practice a lot more than with any other amp or multi FX board, and that amp surprises me even after a year of exclusive use.

[@VintageRadius]

@@vin9976 id look at the Boss Katana if you want to keep to your budget and have him be able to keep up with a drummer as your son grows on drums(and gets louder). Downside is a Katana 1x12 will be a little harder to carry for a 10 year old.

[@Lovell93]

Tim Henson used a Spark to play at home and he’s a “pro”

[@masatanida9119]

Spark is a really great value... but I prefer the Yamaha THR II (specifically the wireless version). The Yamaha sounds better and it feels more familiar if you're used to playing valve amps. The Spark has a lot of nice features, but having owned a Line 6 Amplifi for a few years, I've come to realize that I don't really like having to tweak settings with my phone, and, more importantly, I'd rather have a handful of usable, built-in amp settings than sifting through thousands of downloadable tone prints, most of which don't sound very good.

[@skydivechris2802]

exactly my experience. I play Marshal and brunetti amps. I tried Line 6 Apmplifi and i found it sounded and felt digital. I have a THR 2 for years and i love it. You want Fender, take Clean, you wnat Vox take Crunch, you want Plexi take Lead, you want 800 take Hi Gain, you want Soldano take Modern. That‘s how I think about it. Dont need much more.

[@camhorejs]

I got the THR 10ii last summer after canceling my spark preorder. I waited 4 months for my spark but I couldn’t wait anymore. I love my THR! It might not have endless options like the spark but it is still awesome

[@honeyyeti5292]

I did exactly the same..absolutely the right decision..

[@stevenprince763]

I got both.. but the Yamaha just plain sounds better..you made a good choise

[@moogdome2562]

I had the same problem waiting for ,My Spark to be shipped, so I canceled my order. So glad I did I have Yamaha old model but love it. Instant access of controls, no fiddling about on apps etc. Spark needs to get it's act together.

[@darrenadam2285]

I have a THR30II and have really enjoyed the experience. The battery lasts forever which makes it so easy to play all over the house and yard. I also really enjoy pulling up tunes on Spotify and playing along with headphones for an immersive "in the band" feel.

[@TopK3k]

Before Spark I used to play THR5, but then switched in favour of having more tone options/eq/channels. However, there are some things I've noticed 1) Noise gate. Seems like Spark has an aggressive noise gate, which can cut notes endings when you are doing a vibrato or bend or both. If you turn NG off, there will be a lot of hum (even with humbucker pickup). Replacement AC adapter which should solve grounding issues not helped at all. Depending on which amp preset you are, hum can be louder or quieter (on 5150 or similar high-gain presets it's quite loud and catches radio frequencies). I've settled with treshold and decay on 1 or less, which is quite compromising 2) Using as DI. Both Spark and THR have latency issues when it comes to plugging them via USB. Can be solved by dropping buffer size to the min value. Also Spark's DI sounds poor. The difference between what you hear from speakers and what you hear from monitors/headphones when plugged as DI is HUGE. Guys from support suggested this issue will be fixed by a firmware in future 3) Channel switching. Seems like Spark has some latency when you tap on CH buttons (both hardware and in app). This can be frustrating when you want to play a part of song via CH1 but then do a solo via CH3. And overall app+amp experience can be troubled with lags

[@joshuadevries3459]

The thing I really like about the Yamaha is that it looks super good so you could have it right in the living room without complaints and the wireless functionality makes it so you don't need chords laying around as well.

[@joshball8674]

I don’t know why I disagree with this opinion that just seems so popular. To me, the Yamaha seems so industrial to me and I think the spark just looks really cool, classic style to me. Interesting

[@joshuadevries3459]

@@joshball8674 nothing wrong with that! I love that everyone has different preferences, keeps the world interesting. Btw the spark looks great too.

[@richardboss3358]

Power chords?

[@firdaus125]

I'm so glad I got the Yamaha .. No frills plug and play

[@cadenhopp9884]

The extra features added with the app also cant be ignored. I felt like i had a brand new amp when i finally installed the app and got all the extra effects and amp/cab tones. Its also so nice not having to bend over to adjust the amps knobs.

[@ThePaocha]

Hello guys please can someone sell their thr10x to me? Couldn't find it anywhere on my country INDIA

[@firdaus125]

Why not just buy online

[@ThePaocha]

Not available on indian online musical stores. Out of stock everywhere

[@firdaus125]

@@ThePaocha why not ship it from overseas like Japan or Singapore etc

[@briannelms158]

Have the Spark also and it does have a lot of low end ! On the positive side it sounds great and you can take low end out by going into the app and adjusting the amp head in there !

[@eldritch6871]

what do you do in the app on the amp head that's not already on the physical knobs of the amp? I bought the Spark back in summer and hardly ever touch it. Haven't been impressed with how it sounds.

[@raulgonzalez2283]

@@eldritch6871 You can change the type of amp, to get something briter, or something warmer. You can change the pedal to push the drive and get a different vibe. Instead of using a tubescreamer (which push the mids) you can use a treble booster, or another type of overdrive that can push the highs. You can cut the bass and mids and push the highs on each amp. Believe me, you do can make it sound like you want. I have the Spark, but I have also tried the Yamaha. To be honest?, both of them sound amazing. I like more the features of the Yamaha (the battery power thing and the speaker outputs are amazing), but the price and tweekability of the Spark are hard to beat. Can't go wrong with any of those.

[@Pinner1386]

@@eldritch6871 like previous mentioned its all in how you tune it in with effects/eq/amp model. The presets are very warm, but you can definitely push the mid and high up as well and cut a lot of the bass.

[@jrp7837]

@@eldritch6871 You can change the EQ and some of the stock tones have effects on them, like noise gates, compression and overdrive. Those are often there *stock* and you have to use the app in order to change them, or turn them off. The Spark Amp is not intended to operate via knobs only. It's meant to use with the app.

[@briannelms158]

@@eldritch6871 the physical knobs can be on zero except the master and output when you go in the app and click on it he amp models you can change your parameters there .

[@carlfranklin9022]

WOW! That has to be one of the BEST true comparison reviews I've seen online or in print. Most of the time the reviewer never actually compares apples to apples. You went right to the heart of many important features. Your comparison on tone, build quality, sound, and overall appeal are spot on. I've been trying to decide between these two amps for mover a month now, and I think I finally have it all figured out. Price aside, if you can't find your own style and then fit it to the amp using this review then you aren't very focused. Using this information cleared up several issues for me, which mean that I could arrange my priorities for quality well before I even got the question of price. That just reinforced my overall choice. Thanks!!! I'm a new subscriber because of the video. HOpefully by th end of January 2022 I'll have the new unit in place and can post my own review. I'll let you konw how it goes.

[@pepppery]

I really like my THR 30ii. unlike the content creator for this vid, I use my tablet a lot! I like all of the special amps that they include in the software, Early VH, jcm800!, a few cool fender amps I really like the "class A chord". You can't access about 50 other types of amps or emu of guitarists like rush, hendrix, and dimebag without a phone or tablet or even a desktop!. I get what Darrel was getting at tho, you can toggle the basic effects from the amp, except the compressor and noise gate. My only complaint is that I have tried using other pedals with the flat amp settings and they don't sound great. You have to play with what Yamaha gives you. I guess Yamaha is operating like Apple, very proprietary. Like some other people said I'm surprised they're aren't more fuzz/distortion/overdrive options. You can get those effects in amp models but you can only change the volume. I also wish you could plug into a cab. I have had guitar snobs ask me on several occasions if the thr30 is a tube amp , that how good the tones are. I can also push some good volume without my neighbors hating me.

[@benkatof4240]

Recently got the Yamaha and I love it. One nit to pick - although the Yamaha controls are good overall, I don't like the 4 in 1 effects knobs and much prefer to set tones in app - which also allows much greater effect shaping, plus has compression.

[@ssm445]

That's true, but this kind of knobs are standard on many amps. The Spark has the same effects dials.

[@gary-pv8vz]

Yamaha all the way. I reckon sometimes thousands of choices equals no choice at all.

[@RocktCityTim]

Note that my avatar is my silver 1982 SG800S, and my Clarinet and Alto are both Yamaha, so I love me some Yamaha. But the Spark won out for breadth of options and the way it sounds for my Jazz/Blues oriented playing.

[@bkmeahan]

have to agree. My Mustang GT (I have the 40 and 100) has dozens of different pedals for all types of effects. I end up just using a few of each and have covered everything I could ever want to play

[@yystudio1296]

Yes... always we are chasing features that we dont even use it at all... i've try this amp... ends up i just playing the mod from the knob which is much better and nice... the clean tone is so nice to hear..

[@jimobrien84]

It’s honestly very easy to find any tone you’re looking for on the spark

[@terrydactylspontaneous2596]

Spark makes it easy. The search facility narrows down anything you want pretty instantly. It’s only a problem if you don’t know what you want. You can literally get anyone’s tone including your own and any form of backing such as drums or track within a minute. Once you save and download stuff it’s even quicker and your searches are saved too. There’s a huge difference between a narrow search and scrolling through page after page.

[@Daveaaaaa]

I don't want to know the results! I've just ordered the Spark and can't go back..

[@RocktCityTim]

Don't sweat it - you'll love the Spark. The bass issue and the reverb settings can be tweaked in the app. Also helps to lift the Spark with foam pads like a set of monitor speakers to drop the boominess. You really want to hear boom, put it on the top of a standard 6' banquet table!

[@Marta1Buck]

you need both

[@Daveaaaaa]

@@RocktCityTim Thanks for the tips! I'll definitely try them.

[@airgliderz]

Spark rocks great amp. Sounds extra incredible through my high end 400 watt stereo and speakers, absolutely rocks. Fun to use, easy to adjust custom sounds for incredible tone.

[@rosshorne4769]

I’ve got the spark, it’s awesome you won’t regret it

[@nickienative5668]

I am still in love with my Amp Positive Grid Spark !!!! WHAT A GREAT AMP !! LOVE LOVE LOVE

[@hijmestoffels5171]

I own the Yamaha and share all your opinions, the amp sounds surprisingly natural. I like using real knobs and never use the app on my tablet. But you forgot to mention one feature: the built in receiver and charger for the Line6 Relay G10 wireless system that you can purchase separately. I use it all the time. The Yamaha may be a bit expensive, but it is totally worth it.

[@3dsman]

I suspect resale value may be better as well. No doubt resale value always sucks balls but the Yamaha brand will always limit the downside. I'm actually looking at selling my earlier version Yamaha to get the new Wireless/Battery version and while $200 ain't gonna buy me a new wireless/battery version (think I paid close to $400 originally) it's probably more than what you'll get for a used Spark. One thing we all learn over the years is that there's always a newer feature-packed product around the corner so taking resale value into consideration should be.... a consideration. PS: I'm a knob twiddler too.. not really a fan of app-enabled products even though I recognize their power. The line outs also are super important if you're thinking of recording anything.

[@dogfalcon]

For me, THR is the King, period. More natural, more organic. Feels more like a real amp. As so many musical stuff, YAMAHA is so underated.

[@ashcosmo3854]

THR has a better tone.. but it only has the one.. Spark can do so much more without spending $1000 on pedala

[@8MinuteAxe]

I couldn't agree more that Yamaha overall is underrated. As far as guitars go, I think the 611 with the p90 in the neck is one of the best sounding, most versatile, well playing, and well built guitars on the planet. All the components are high end. As far as this shootout, it's one of the few times I dont agree with Darrell. The Spark sounds great and it's very easy to EQ out the annoying bass frequencies (I can do a lot of that easily from my guitar), its built to be warmer because it's a practice amp, and as far as value goes, theres no comparison. If I want a perfectly voiced amp, I'm not going to grab one of these anyway. I'll use my Dr. Z or Fender Twin. The app is easy to use and there are tons of extras. I've recommended it to several of my students and they all love it.

[@justmehere6094]

Not to be a jerk, but, um if you haven't played a Spark, there is no way you can say the Yamaha is more natural and organic and feels more like a legacy amp (as both Yamaha and Spark ARE real amps)

[@8MinuteAxe]

That's too funny. I just got your comment and I thought it was for me. Lol. I have the Spark and LOVE it!! I've recommended it to all of my students and several have purchased and I'm uploading a review of it on Sat on channel. Obviously meant for the other guy. For $239 it has an incredible amount of features, sounds amazing, and is perfect for beginners and intermediate players with the chord recognition and intuitive jam stuff. The Yamaha is twice the price too and although I think the Spark sounds better, you could call it unfair to compare something double the price. Also, when I'm buying a desktop practice amp I'm not digging that deep into the subtleties of the voicing! If you're that picky and your ear is that attuned to such things, you get a first rate amp for gigs when someone else besides you is actually going to hear the thing. But even you have to ask yourself if it matters. I put a premium scumback M75 in my Dr. Z (my primary gigging amp) and I can tell you no one has ever come up to me after a show and said 'wow, I really like the way your amp is voiced'. Its all good fun. I dont know why people have to draw such definitives on everything. When my students ask me what the best guitar is I always say 'the one you have'. To me, the spark is the best piece of gear, maybe ever, under $250. As I said before, I love Yamaha too. I own too many very expensive guitars but I dont see how my $600 Yamaha 611 could be any better. Best tuners I've ever used, best sounding p90 I've ever played, smoothest frets of any non high end guitar I've ever owned. Oh, man, I'm rambling now. Lol. Everybody have a good night.

[@elreybuenvinobuenavida3837]

Got a THR10C a few years ago, and it made me practice even more from the start. Upgraded last year with a THRII30W for the wireless, the inside battery and more volume. Plug and play wherever you go, it will always sound great. I kept the THR10C though ;0)

[@MotoLen51]

I have the Yamaha's little brother, the THR10II, and I love it. Great sound, easy to use app and presets and very good sound when using other sources (phone via bt, for example).

[@jeremy-asaurus]

Thank you for the in-depth comparison, Darrell.

[@Heresjohn]

Don’t know much about the yam. But what you’ve missed for us moderate guitar players is the additional spark features, Spotify, you tube Apple Music, I can simply dial up a song I want to play and hey presto I’ve got something I can play along too, even to the fact it’s worked out roughly the chord progressions. Then I’ve got the ability to get the amp to create my backing track. These are huge features were actually the selling point to me.

[@1973Hog]

This feature is why I purchased the Spark. Not sure why Darrell didn’t cover it (other than to mention the Spark had an app).

[@KeithMilner]

You can play along on the Yamaha too: it supports Spotify, KZbin, Apple Music, KZbin Music, Bandcamp, Deezer, etc. as well as apps like Music Speed Changer. It doesn't show you the chords, but most KZbin backing tracks have chord charts, and they are generally more accurate.

[@riverlandrez6300]

I'm using out of the box presets...factory presets pretty good for me..Ipad did a Tone..it is good...wanna get my Bass and keyboard connected to my MacBook M1 2020...and ideas on cheap way to that ? I have BT wifi 6 and 2 thunderbolts usb-C ports... is MIDI best way if so HOW?

[@sona3486]

...Aaaaand this is why slick marketing works on people. Yep, the Spark has a lot of bright sparkly shiny things...but it’s supposed to be an AMPLIFIER that produces GREAT SOUNDS. If you fail at the primary purpose-which the Spark mostly does-then what’s the point. The Yamaha sounds great start to finish, without having to dangle a bunch of other stuff to make it seem palatable. So, if the fancy bonus stuff that comes along with the Spark is important to you then buy it. If you want a great-sounding amp, buy the Yamaha.

[@KeithMilner]

@@sona3486 I agree. I've heard people say it's "revolutionary" and a "game changer" because of its capabilities. Frankly, it's neither of those things. The amp itself doesn't do anything that hasn't been available in other practice amps for years. Compare it with, for instance, the Line 6 Amplifi which was around the same price, but which offered far more flexibility in tone shaping and a much better cloud-based tone library. Having said that, I think the Spark is a better product than the Amplifi and, for the price, it's great value. But the THR is better IMO.

[@RandoBogus]

My biggest concern with these amps: how long will they support their software? How long before their app no longer runs on the latest version of Android/iOS? Will the Spark still be useful in 5 years?

[@JungYT]

Good question and I wonder about the batteries on the Yamaha. Are the batteries standard and replaceable?

[@michaelpainchaud15]

I almost never use the app for my Yamaha. It produces amazing tone at low volumes. Much better than big amps.

[@TheDanilaDanila]

@@JungYT As I can tell it's Li-on battery, but not a replacable AA's battery. So if it would need a replacement the only two options are some kind of warranty, or local warehouse/electronic magazine/pedal or amp workshop. Its a pretty huge con if looking at yamaha as a gig/street performance amp, 'cause in roland's cube, for example, it'll run till you're out of batteries.

[@jimobrien84]

Wow I wish I had considered that before I bought the spark. Hopefully they keep supporting it especially after all the money they dumped into marketing. Even if they stop, there’s a fair amount of range with the 4 built in tone profiles

[@steveDC51]

I have had the original THR10 since it was first released. Still absolutely fine so I certainly would not worry about the Yamaha.

[@JackFossett]

Dear Darrell: Please bring back the smile thumbnails. They’re infectiously happy and being joy to the guitar world. Sincerely, Jack

[@jesuslopez6873]

This is not gmail dude ,it's youtube

[@SpartanPridePod]

THRii is pretty dope. The blue tooth cable thing is really what I like most beyond the actual sounds. As a house player, I end up using it 3x as much as my big ones

[@Nissan570Lsx]

I couldn't choose. Bought both. I like full wireless on Yamaha. Batteries are cool.

[@jeffdugger3276]

Are those store bought batteries, the way the THR10 series offered a few years ago, with the battery compartment? Or are the batteries integral and rechargeable in the THRII?

[@Nissan570Lsx]

@@jeffdugger3276 I think only the thr 30 ii comes with lithium ion rechargeable batteries and line6 receiver built in. Transmitter sold separately. But if you get the whole g10 wireless you get separate receiver you can use on another amp. Channel sync is quick. I dont work for Yamaha or line6. I swear.

[@yogieyo9935]

can the bluetooth be turned off? on both amp

[@Nissan570Lsx]

@@yogieyo9935 I can't say I tried. But I'm guessing you could just disconnect from device(phone or tablet) settings under Bluetooth. Each amp has an app that opens up settings for the amps. Uses Bluetooth for that and music. Disconnect one or both if you want.

[@valebliz]

@@Nissan570Lsx thr10ii has batteries and wireless too. There are two versions of it.

[@skipthornton5413]

I have an earlier Yamaha THR...and that is my go to amp, except for gigging....I love it!

[@SteveKeith]

I don't know why, but I always get a kick out of how Canadian you are, Darrell. Through that intro it always cracks me up. This coming from someone who lives in Alberta

[@TheFreeman4955]

I have the Spark 40 and the Mini. I use the Mini 90% of the time with a Lekato wireless guitar transmitter I got off Amazon for $49. No cables or wall plug needed and I get all the tones I want. As for the bass on the 40 there’s a EQ pedal in the app that takes care of that. Just a little tweaking and save it.

[@trschin]

I have the Yamaha THR10II it sounds amazing for its size and the ability to go fully wireless is really its greatest feature imo. It wasn’t cheap but it’s working out great! Love that thing

[@surfrby8876]

What wireless system are you using ? That’s what I want to do

[@trschin]

@@surfrby8876 Line 6 Relay G10T

[@clarkbabin9799]

I own a Spark amp which I purchased early last year. I love it and think it's quite a revolutionary piece of equipment. I'm still discovering things it can do and not even halfway through. Only because I don't have memory on my phone or internet beyond it. I will say this. Being an owner of a 1969 J230 12string, a Yamaha electric piano, and having some experience in their musical equipment beyond instruments not to mention knowing someone who owns a drum kit I'll say if the amp is anything like the rest of their options then it should be an awesome addition to a home studio or garage.

[@alkamz]

To be fair, the THR has this amazing feature you forgot to mention : the built-in wireless jack system, you just need a wireless guitar jack (Line 6 Relay G10 receiver, I believe)

[@williamking7420]

It's easy and inexpensive to make any guitar and amp system wireless these days.

[@Chuck-Bob]

That is a plus.

[@andreil1234]

To be extra fair, you're much better off buying any wireless set, Line6, Boss, Harley Benton and use it with any amp. THR30 is IMHO preposterously expensive for what it is, you can get crazy good tube heads / combos or processors (Amplifire) for equal or much less or get nice simpler portable amps for a fraction of the price if simple and portable is what you want (Blackstar Fly3, Katana Mini, Laney mini etc.) or even a used THR10 + wifi set. Also, the line6 only thing is not an advantage, it's you getting stuck with line6 emitters :) Were this priced about 1/2-2/3 of that it sells for, it would have been closer to the "truth" so to speak.

[@strobeable]

@@andreil1234 yep, agree 🙋🏽‍♂️

[@andreil1234]

@@strobeable I mean, I managed to get a 6L6/EL34 Ironheart 120H all valve head with power scaling

[@LuisCastro-rb3mq]

You should really do the spark vs the katana head!

[@eddiesalazar688]

Good idea, the Boss Katana MkII 50W would also be nice.

[@ldaberg]

Yes it would be intersting to see how the Katana head with its internal speaker compares to these two.

[@MattBargain]

I had the first version of the Katana 50 and while it offers a lot it never really felt like an amp. By now I think a tube amp and physical effects are just the real deal. I can’t say what it is but modeling just misses the last 10%. But then they are much more practical and cheaper as a “real” setup.

[@jerryb2332]

I bought the Spark during its release preorder sale. I absolutely love it as a practice amp. It does so much for the price and purposes. After a few tweaks I was able to to get rid of the extra bass. Humbuckers really show it when everything is at noon on the amp. Just turn the bass down. I love the amp models and the amount of effects. The tone cloud is awesome as well. If there’s a tone for a song you want, there’s a 98% chance you’ll find it on the cloud. The jam features are great and very usable. I decided to go with the Spark based on the price and a few extra features it seemed to have over the Yamaha. I just wanted something useful as a practice amp instead of plugging into my main rig. I’ve gotten to use the Yamaha and it’s absolutely great also. They just have a few different features and uses from each other. You can’t go wrong with either. The Spark did exactly what I was wanting it to do. Be a great practice amp that actually inspired me to practice. I find myself playing way more than I had been. Isn’t that what we all really want in a product? That’s my opinion on the matter. They are both absolutely amazing practice amps. I sure wish things like this were around in the early 90s when I first started playing guitar lol.

[@oldrrocr]

Dude, thanks again. I bought the SPARK in preorder and have been quite pleased. Since I am a techie, I liked that there were many features and libraries that they built up. I access them with my IPAD and LOVE the fact that I can find a preset sound, song or track and just tap on it. For $250, it's a no-brainer.

[@jarijormanen9318]

3 years ago. The amp broke i suppose

[@TheLuiscelaya]

I got a Yamaha THR10X that absolutely love. All the tones and effects onboard is super killer.

[@Miami73]

Tha Spark Amp is really an excellent choice! I'm living in France and I use it everyday to make my own music (look at Miami73 on my Channel and listen what you can do with it). It's truly practice. A lot of possibilities. It's very good quality and very easy to use with your smartphone or Pc. I recorded with Studio one 5 (free version which is included) & now I'm using it on Cakewalk. It's totally plug & play. I used the Yamaha THR 10 (the 1st edition not wireless) before (I've got always 😃) which was a very good amp too. Less powerful but very clean and quality. I suppose the THR 30 is much better the the old mine. I use this one when I travel because it's very small and you carry it everywhere. So if you can get twice or if you need one, my advice: Spark for Home & THR 30 for travel🤘

[@riverlandrez6300]

Sold…always Curious…and I ain’t a cat

[@randompanda876]

spark had some insane holiday sales, which is why i got one lmao

[@wilhelmu8675]

How much did you pay?

[@passenger1jaro]

@@wilhelmu8675 I paid 220 USD

[@Akraphol]

@@passenger1jaro wow that really good price.

[@johnpeeler4455]

Same 😂😂

[@riverlandrez6300]

Was glad off Amazon…skip the T…save some $

[@georgeflowers3730]

I have the Yamaha and I love it, I'm always amazed how close the tones are to the real thing! Great practice Amp!

[@STEVE24BUS]

I have the Spark and find it to be great for my needs, jamming along to stuff, I suspect many older guitarists who have been there, done that, got the T-shirt have bought this for fun. Funnily enough one of my gripes about smaller amps over the years has been the lack of bass, I have no experience with the Yamaha so I can't say, but the Spark is a great bundle of tricks and great value.

[@comandinn505]

Darrell I always learn so much and you lower my blood pressure by a good 10 points. Keep up the good work!

[@SidBonkers51]

Cheers for this video Darrell, I was considering selling my old Yamaha THR10C the blues version and buying a Spark, you've saved me a lot of money and heartache so Ill stick with what works for me, I guess the grass isn't always greener etc.

[@ellesnyder942]

I have the Spark and an Indo Cal Classic blue burst ( - Thanks Darrell!). I use the Spark to play along with my favorite songs on youtube. I've improved more in the past 6 months of having the Spark than I have in (lets just say decades lol) since getting my first guitar. The indio I've had for a year and a half and still love everything about it. I can't leave out crediting the Indo too- Easiest guitar to play than I've ever owned. I spent decades as what I call a plunker. These two items have helped immensely.

[@clivematthews95]

Thank You Darrell, your expertise is always helpful, and I love watching you play guitar very much, you’re a mad man with that, I love that ♥️🤘🏾🙏🏾

[@caseyodonnell6621]

Have the first gen THR 10 and the Spark. Definitely prefer the Yamaha. Better speakers and much easier to dial in a great sound without having to use an app. But I like the tutorial/jam along capabilities of the Spark. Looking forward to the THR 10 mk3. Spark and Boss Katana air have really upped the competition. Hopefully the next iteration of lunchbox practice amps will have effects loops for looping. Great vid, as always, thanks!

[@stringsattached67]

Just took my spark back to get the Yamaha thr 30ii wireless . Day and night difference the Yamaha sounds like an actual amplifier and the tones are just unbelievable.

[@BlaziNTrades]

Easily one of the best comparison reviews I've watched. I've been considering buying the Yamaha for a couple of years now, but it is priced a little high in my opinion.

[@Fortywayner]

Except it didn't spend much time on sound differences. Isn't that why you buy one?

[@RocktCityTim]

Oh, I forgot. Finally received my Spark (still no headphones ...) and have been trying to beat it into submission. I can't get it to mess up. It even works great with my pedals in front of it.

[@jimobrien84]

That’s good to hear. I thought some video I watched mentioned pedals not working on it so I haven’t even tried any of mine on it yet

[@adyx]

I got an email saying the headphones would be shipped separately but they were in the box when it was delivered. The Xmas sales were a bit of a mess I think.

[@BobJones-bh9qz]

Random question, what guitar is that in your profile picture?

[@RocktCityTim]

@@BobJones-bh9qz 1982 Yamaha SG800S. Picked it up in the Ginza store in '83.

[@BobJones-bh9qz]

@@RocktCityTim thanks 👍 that thing looks killer, congrats

[@abetmercado9691]

i can see where the allure of having thousands of tones can come from and how it would be pretty fun to spend lots of time dialing up stuff to mimic the tones of your favorite guitarists and stuff. but if you have simple tastes and just want something to small to plug in to and jam to a backing track where you get a decent enough mix at a volume where you can still practice while watching TV, the THR is what you're looking for.

[@jameskowalkowski2308]

Spark is the one for me! I love the features and sounds. To each their own, for me it's the SPARK.

[@Firedancer100]

The Yamaha is Amazing the spark is not bad but the Yamaha wins and it’s also got a seven year guarantee

[@rickk1235]

After much struggling as to what amp to buy I purchased the Spark. Because: 1. lots of good reviews, 2. the app that you can use on the tablet is very good. I'm a retiree just taking up the guitar...for me, I like to have quick, easy access to tones of my favorite bands. Though the tones not perfect it's close enough for now. 3. MUCH cheaper than the Yamaha. And yes you're correct, very bass heavy, too much for sure. 4. One BIG negative about the Spark is the headphone experience. Beware, when listening to "preview" tones in the Spark Cloud you can't control the volume you're hearing...which means many times your ears will get blasted! I'm now on the fence as to whether I keep this or go with the Yamaha because the large percentage of my practicing is with headphones.

[@AndreasKingMedia]

One use case I never hear people talk about that I LOVE my original THR10X for is for a minimal setup with a computer for recording. Over the summer I went up to a cottage with a few friends, and brought a guitar, midi keyboard and drumpad, and the THR (And an acoustic, because who doesn't want an acoustic at a cottage). Hooked everything up and boom, had everything I needed to get a good jam going, playing right out of the THR. I generally just use the DI from the THR and then use an archetype plugin, so I have a sound that I'd even be happy putting down on a track nevermind a simple jam with some buddies. When I'm not doing stuff like that it sits up on my desk beside my computer, so if I want to play loud I can just use that with whatever plugins I want, and don't need to waste the space/money on some speakers just to hear my guitar! For someone who loves to tinker around with tones and do some simple recording on a computer without investing a TON of money into an interface and studio monitors for some casual fun, it's truly a fantastic product. Before I discovered the archetype plugins, I also used the BIAS FX2 software with the THR, so you can technically get the best of both worlds with a simple laptop! (Maybe a good video idea)

[@mikeaustin4138]

In another Spark video, I read a comment that if you remove the speaker grill and put a sock or two in the bass reflex hole on the bottom of the unit, it greatly improves the sound. Removing the grill "releases" some of the high end and the socks constrain the bass frequencies.

[@Silkaz7]

I've had the yamaha for a year, personally compared it to the spark for a couple of weeks. The yamaha sounds way better, no contest.

[@yiannisfaitakis]

I have both and the Yamaha is by far the amp I spend most of my time playing with. The1 Yamaha is a hi-fi audio unit with amazing sounds and amp simulation that not only sound but feel and respond amazing. The spark sounds very digital, processed and bass-y and muffled with a lot of artifacts in the sound. The yamaha is the closest you can get to ‘plug and play’ like an actual tube amp.

[@gliblyaware]

Thanks Darrell! You are the ultimate guitar-rocking Ned Flanders from the north! 😁 One of my favorite Channels!

[@dirktucker77]

I'm total beginner. Paid for a spark on the 11th, was supposed to ship on the 18th, hasn't shipped yet. Also bought a ltd ec-256, practicing as much as I can.

[@dburton7929]

I bought a Spark, and if I had known then what I know now, I would have gone with the Yamaha. The Spark died after two days of operation. Having quite a bit of experience with electronics, I decided to open the Spark, hoping I would be able to trouble shoot the issue I was having ( small volume control for Bluetooth quit working). The build quality is pure garbage. It’s a lot like a turd in a pretty box, it still stinks. The cheapest, electronics available, mounted in the cheapest cabinet I have ever seen. Another issue is the painfully slow “customer service “. Why it takes four days to issue an RMA number and a shipping label is beyond me. I’m still waiting to have this piece of junk returned to me following the repair. Over the years, I have owned many Yamaha products, and have never had an issue of any kind. Yamaha builds quality and reliability into everything I’ve ever seen, and I’m sure that applies to their amps as well. So, save your money and spring for the Yamaha and you will most likely be much happier with your purchase than I am. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, lesson learned !

[@jarijormanen9318]

Thanks

[@BarneysBullit]

The Yamaha is the best piece of equipment i've purchased in last 20 years. Don't really use pedals any longer (amp has more than I need!) except for looper. The sound is phenomenal and the options of effects is impressive. Don't underestimate the "stereo outs" that the Spark doesn't have... I use mine as an interface to my Tascam 32dp Studio. Again, I am in love with this completely wireless system and the soft amber glow of the "tube bulbs" is just killer!

[@goldtop362]

Very interesting! I have the Spark and the Yamaha THR10C (as well as a couple of decent combo amps.) I think Darrell summed up the differences really well. The THR amps have THE most brilliant amp models and, for that reason alone, if I could only keep one it would be the THR. I think where the Spark wins out is in it's versatility. For beginners, or for players that have maybe lost their mojo or enthusiasm for playing, it's an invaluable practice tool with the Smart Jam feature and the chord recognition software when you use backing tracks. The Spark is insanely good value for money! N.B. I don't think the bass thing with the Spark is such a problem. Stood on a laptop stand, or amp stand (in other words, off the floor) it makes a big difference. I keep both desktop amps on a glass topped coffee table and the Spark isn't overly bassy at all. Thanks, Darrell; informative and entertaining, as always! 😎👍

[@555atU]

Thanks for posting this. I'm a beginner and trying to decide on a practice amp. I haven't heard either, but i would bet the Yamaha will sound better. The Spark looks like a superior learning tool and gives me opportunities for those little victories (learning some cool chord progressions e.g.) and keep me going in the crappy phase of learning an instrument in a fun, convenient way.

[@dallas7324]

Sorry to bother, but I just bought a 10 Watt Sparks mini, they were out of 40, I am only asking if the app for the sparks to record or play back is the only one of these "Yamaha" doesn't have the loop? Or record/ playback?

[@GAMEZONE-zl4sl]

I like the way you throw your guitar in the top of the roof man sick🔥

[@reddoggie100]

Thx! I got the Yamaha just before I was aware of the Spark. Heard a lot of hype about the Spark and wondered if I made the right choice. Seems that they are both great & it just depends on which is right for you. Based on your comparisons, I’m happy I got the Yamaha.

[@JWEmbry-wc7qi]

I appreciate this clear, fair and honest review Darrell, thanks man!!

[@InspiringTracks]

Great comparison as always! The Yamaha is sort of a classic now but both sound really great. It's awesome how good you can sound nowadays for so little money

[@ClintsCrypt]

The Yamaha lights up inside like a tube amp!!! I have both. I like both. Spark for stationary practice at home and easy versatility in the app. Yamaha for on the go or moving about the house. Line 6 has the matching cordless transmitter for your guitar for the Yamaha. The Yamaha charges the Line 6 transmitter. So you can use both the Yamaha amp and your guitar as cordless on the go. No Cords!!! I love both amps and would hate to have to give either up. I think I have gotten about 6 hours of playing time out of a charge on the Yamaha. 😉

[@adrangiertz1292]

I've had a thr10ii and its freaking awesome there's a thread on a forum that tells you everything you need go know about the thr. The manuals great but the thread I read told you which Amps the thr is modeling. Like classic heavy setting is a dual rec and so on helped me big time and the effects are amazing

[@maspesasmasperras5554]

Hi, could you please direct me to that thread? Thanks

[@pbosche]

Yes, please link this forum!

[@javigar133]

The Yamaha also has wireless connection with the guitar (huge appointment) and sounds surprisingly well with acoustics, piano, basa,Vans even just to play music. I have the THR 10-C and the new 30 is very tempting.

[@hunt386]

The Yamaha has L/R 1/4” line outputs for FOH or FRFR speakers.

[@alexanderkastaniotis4097]

Airstep makes a dedicated 5-button pedal for remote switching of the THR presets. You could conceivably gig this like a 5 channel amp, using the line outputs. There is a short but noticeable delay when switching presets though, and you'll need to get used to that and work around it. The THR also has an on board rechargeable battery and can be used for several hours without being connected to an electric outlet. And therefore it's also a portable boom box/bluetooth speaker.

I think you're missing a key feature: the spark can't take foot control, which I think is possible with the yamaha

[@markgabat1750]

There is actually airstep now for spark

[@peterberglund5492]

I also own both, although the Yamaha is about 6 years old. Battery is great, the flexibility of the Spark is better. The Yamaha goes every where my trailer goes. Enjoy

[@officialWWM]

They both sound better than expected. They would be fun to have in the studio.

[@stratofever1]

This is a perfect VS video, thank you Darrell for covering every aspect!

[@thecrowing1989]

Except any aspect of the Spark App, which is where it shines.

[@DoctorMarkyMark]

What a great comparison! I have had a spark for nearly a year and tbh, never quite got the type of sound I want out of it, for example comparing it with a Roland Cube/Vox 10W. I think I might try the Yamaha

[@charlieridgell456]

Glad to hear there’s an alternative to the Spark. Useful. Thanks.

[@nickm.9474]

Yeah. The spark is bass heavy in not a good way. Not sure what the people over at positive grid are hearing but the spark just isn’t very natural sounding. It takes a bit to get the sound you’re looking for. And the verb is pretty horrible like he says. It’s too wife and it takes the definition away. I have an older thr5 and it was much more friendlier getting sounds out of it.

[@ricklewis5804]

What does “it’s to wife” mean?

[@nunyabidness9895]

@@ricklewis5804 It keeps asking you to do the dishes and turn your guitar down I guess?

[@ricklewis5804]

@@nunyabidness9895 What? I’ve never associated a woman’s voice as bass sounding and I’m widowed so if I want the dishes done I have to do them myself.

[@nunyabidness9895]

@@ricklewis5804 You ain't met my wife!

[@ricklewis5804]

@@nunyabidness9895 ?

[@jscoppe]

The bass on the Spark I believe also has to do with the speakers. They are essentially 4" one-way car speakers (woofers). Some people have replaced the speakers with 2-way (or 3-way) speakers to get more highs out of tweeters in addition to the woofers. They do become more directional, so you'll need the Spark facing you to hear the highs properly.

[@km1366]

Couldn't disagree more. Bass is perfect...other amps speakers are too small and weak

[@CroneRaven1810]

The Yamaha has one of the best brown sound i have ever heard. Dialed in a nice custom plate & hall reverb and its is insane. Helix, Actual EVH 5150 III & Friedman BE100 Deluxe are comparable but these are way more expensive. So imo Yamaha. On my channel, I have a playlist with some guitar covers while using the Yamaha. External audio recording so it kinda paints a fair picture of the tones you can get in your room with it. If anyone interested in the sound that is not recorded via / into a PC

[@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84]

You haven’t heard the Boss Katana on the Brown channel then 😆

[@CroneRaven1810]

@@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84 Not in person no. I did compare YT audio though. I read also that people generally said that the Yamaha sounded better and is more amp like. So, i have bought one and the Yamaha has impressed me

[@airgliderz]

@@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84 i have, Spark wins.

[@johnwelch557]

For personal play and recording, I'll go for the Yamaha. I don't want fiddly controls. Also, I don't use OD unless it's very minimal. I also agree that reverb should be for guitar not big spacey stuff. I will choose one of the less expensive Yamaha models.... Thanks!

[@karnbroad8504]

This review is great, but entirely electric guitar focused. It is therefore missing the fact that the Spark caters for acoustic and even bass (at least part of why it has such weight at the low end). That's a big difference for some people.

[@ssm445]

The Yamaha is for acoustic and bass, too. Actually, a bass on the Spark is even more muffled than a guitar, so especially as a bass player, you shouldn't go for the Spark.

[@DoktorLorentzBig]

I really like the way you make understand things not speaking but with your face expressions.

[@DalyTek12]

I have owned both of these amps and my findings were much different. While they both sounded great for the most part, I found it much easier to get the tones I was looking for on the Spark. The Spark in a recent update has added an EQ pedal that really allows the tone to be dialed in, for those like Darrell who found it to bee too bass heavy for their liking. The bottom end just did not sound very good on the Yamaha, so it really struggled with good heavy metal tones. I think they both fared about equal in terms of effects (the Katana owns them both by a long shot there!) I genuinely love the tones I can get out of my Spark and found myself always going to that amp. I sold the Yamaha and never looked back. Pretty sure I will be a Spark owner for life.

[@MathewsGuitarWorks]

Which katana you talking about?

[@sovereignmercy1]

Darrell just did an updated review about the PG software update.

[@LetsArion]

@@MathewsGuitarWorks probably the boss katana 100w

[@davel_ggw]

Same experience here. For clean tones, it was maybe a lot closer, but for any gain tones, especially hard rock and metal tones, the Spark sounded much better to me, so I sold the THR30-II. Let's be honest though, neither is remotely as good as a great tube amp through a great cab, but for getting closest to those cranked tube amp tones at a reasonable volume, the Spark did a better job for me.

[@stevefarrington5618]

I was looking at the Yamaha when a friend said he had a spark 40. He’s into metal and likes his big ass stuff. He sold the spark to me for 100 dollars. Best hundred I ever spent.

[@gerinsindanight]

Whats is this really priceless is the value of this video, thanks Darrell!

[@michael_caz_nyc]

Great review. I already knew the Yamaha was a nicer amp. I may pick-one-up? You always do such a thorough job Darrell - in delivering all the pertinent information. Update: purchased the Yamaha THR30II in Black = phenomenal. I will never be without.

[@thebluesman325]

What you failed to mention is that on the Yamaha line outs is only on the most expensive unit. The other two units do not have the line outs. I need to connect to either an external; speaker cab or a PA board but the unit I bought only has the usb. Any thoughts on how I could accomplish this would be beneficial.

[@alangoodwin1966]

I have owned a Spark for a couple years now. I have done the large amps, petals different amps, more pedals. This was a game changer for me. Backing tracks with video,and chord changes help me play along with unlimited songs, old and new. Tones are great, I can download tons of tones,that sound just like the artist I pull up. Zztop Lagrange crunch? There is about 30 different versions available, and always changing because other spark owners are creating them just like I do, and make them available on the app. Your right Darrell, it’s revolutionary technology. Totally worth the money.

[@MarcCoteMusic]

I haven't played through the Yamaha myself so I can't offer opinions on a comparison. That said, I've owned the Spark for about 10 months and I really like it. As someone who will always heavily tweak my sounds regardless of the device or platform, I enjoy crafting my tones and the Positive Grid amp is ideal for that. For those who own one along with a powered speaker like the Tech 21 Power Engine or an amp with an effects return, try taking the headphone out from your Spark and plugging in to the bigger amp and be prepared to be blown away.

[@tavinanderson7077]

I think its the spark it has the more options for tones and eq settings Anyways, love the videos keep up the good work!

[@JHKNVY02]

I had a THR and it lasted about 30 minutes, picked up a Katana MkII 50, which I preferred much more, even though the quality was a little lower, and one failed which had to be returned, but I bought another. Now I have a spark on the way to check out because so many people at work love it.

[@jasonyltan7672]

The Yamaha sounds better for sure. Well worth the upcharge over the Spark, and alsofor ease of use. Plug and play for me practically, so very easy to dial in excellent tones. You could also run pedals into it and sound good, but redo your usual EQ settings for those. Oh, the speakers sound great if you play music or watch movies as well, sounds like a very good hifi without the fuss. Two thumbs up!

[@Rockinrn]

No mention about speaker type in each amp. I think that would be helpful. I think your channel is great.

[@FeralPlumber]

I have both....I can also use Bass in my Spark ⚡️ Also, PG must have their delivery issues fixed- seven days from ordering it was on my doorstep

[@Redn87]

Right On!!! Here in Fresno Ca. They are the same price $299 before taxes. I was looking to buy the Yamaha THR 10ii. Guitar center did not have it in stock. I got the 40w spark which is in this video. I took it back a little over a week later. Was not impressed. The treble is non existent and to me it sounds like every tone is muffled. Just got the Yamaha and it is amazing.

[@rhobinuddin]

Hi Darrel, I love your videos. Both amps are almost at par with each other. Though I am loving the Spark's cool features. Not having any budget to buy any of those amps. Would love a chance to perform live on Facebook or KZbin using those and probably gonna ask small contributions from listeners. Pandemic hit us hard here in Malaysia, small time musicians like me suffers the most. Stay safe Darrel. You are a gift from music heaven.