We put two capable touring bikes head to head for this roadside comparison. - 🚨Read Cycle News Magazine: www.cyclenews.com/ 🚨Facebook: / cyclenews 🚨Instagram: / cyclenews - #Yamaha #Suzuki #CycleNews
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@peterkoning215 ай бұрын
I love your attitude to phone connectivity !! Virtually everyone rides with their phone attached to their handlebars, distracting them and detracting from the pleasure of the ride. I don't have maps etc on display. When I have a fuel stop I look at a map and know where I'm going to ! I ride a motorcycle to get away from distractions like a phone, msgs, electronic communications. I ride for the pleasure of, unadultering, enjoyment of the RIDE. I don't even have two way comms, a jab in the ribs sends me a msg !!
@mikehamilton91284 ай бұрын
Hi, good review! I bought a Yamaha Tracer9 GT+ 4 months ago. I am 6’2” and I find the screen is probably the best stock screen I have ever ridden behind in 54 years of riding motorcycles on the road, (yes, I am 70 and I rode my first motorcycle on the dirt when I was 12 years of age), so I guess we are all different.
@georgenewman58605 ай бұрын
Another feature you could have mentioned with the Tracer is the cornering headlights. I don't ride a lot at night but when I do it is nice to see what is coming around the corner.
@michaelfuncheon70603 ай бұрын
I bought a 2021 YamahaTracer 9GT when they first came out. Had 4 recall notices. The dealer reflashed the ECU 6 times and it still left me thinking it would crap out sometime. Absolutely hated the screen. Bear in mind I was a Yamaha dealer rep back in the 80's and loved them. Rode 2 different FJR's over the years, but when I got the 4th recall notice on the GT I lost confidence. Traded it in on a 24 GSXS1000 GT+. Watched every KZbin I could and was prepared to change the brake lines and replace the tires. Took delivery last October and now have 1000 miles on the clock. In my opinion, the brakes are absolutely fine, good bite and plenty of feel. The stock tires are just that - stock tires. They're fine but not the best. Neither were the tires on the Yamaha either. Suzy rides better, has a better windscreen and info screen, smoother engine, transmission and quick shifter. To sum it up, I'm much happier on the Suzuki and look forward to the touring season. It's twice the bike compared to the Yamaha.
@cyclenews3 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting us know. We're glad the Suzuki is such a great fit!
@awakeadventurer91982 ай бұрын
Thanks Michael! How is the Suzy suspension? Plush at all? I'm looking at The GX+ and this GT. I like longer rides but have done a physical repetitive business for 30 years. I need nice suspension etc. The GX has electronic suspension(like my R1250GS). I'm looking for something lighter and sportier looking than my GS. Excellent bike but I'm ready for change n less weight to flick.
@richardhretczak536Ай бұрын
Maybe you should’ve gotten previous generation of Tracer. I used to owned 2017 after 43000km no recalls and now issues. After that 2019 Tracer 900 and twice 2019 GT and again so far so good.
@papamichailang4 ай бұрын
If you are an experienced, trained rider take the GT with closed eyes and enjoy having a superbike that can do 500 miles for fun, I know cause i bought it. The GT can trailbreak hard at 120 miles per hour, the chassis is superbike capable, the breaks, I needed 40 minutes to get the feel and I really enjoy the razor like feeling I get when using the A mode. I also enjoy getting 5 - 5.5 l/per 100km when chilling. Two step cruise control is great I love it. If i wanna wage war I can, if wanna cruise with my girlfriend I can. Gearing is superbike short, I love it you can make it longer no worries torque everywhere, air protection at helmet is perfect untill 130km, i love it cause the view on the mountains is so good with so-so screen, legs and hands are totally protected.
@tg81504 ай бұрын
Agree. The Tracer 9 GT puts the lowly and dinosaur of an engine Suzuki on the trailer all day long.
@awakeadventurer91982 ай бұрын
@@tg8150I believe the guy above meant get the Suzuki GT.
@messageinathrottle40462 ай бұрын
I wish the Tracer was better looking.
@PaulKind3d2 ай бұрын
Tracer, the very best bike no one wants. Not sure if its the look or the awful name.... Not much inspiring about either. I mean, if you are going to spend all that money on marketing, you would think they would do it right.... Maybe they did and all they want is uninspired old geezers to buy it based on practicality. But yea, im with you on the looks too. just so drab and weird looking. no panache at all. Just a very purpose driven analytical and uninspiring look all around. I feel old just looking at one.
@ScottHedrick-bd6vc2 ай бұрын
Looks are subjective. I love the looks,better than the Suzuki.
@ljondovaАй бұрын
@@ScottHedrick-bd6vcTracer is ugly
@chiblydeetz3 ай бұрын
I put the puig sport windshield on my tracer and it solved the buffeting issues of the stock screen. It was awful.
@dumptrump37886 ай бұрын
3:55 "The Tracer 9GT....3 cylinder 900cc ...one of the greatest engines ever." OH YES! The flat spot is fixed with an ECU flash, this was done one mine under a recall. As for Suzuki vs Yamaha I preferred the Tracer because I'm tall, 6' 3"/190cm & I found the Suzuki too cramped, especially the knee bend angle. I get a far more relaxed posture on the Tracer. A BIG issue for me is fuel economy & range, my Tracer gets an astonishing 52MPG (US) & that's with a large amount of gnarly commuting. Finally, a better side by side comparison would be the Suzuki GSX-S1000GX+ rather than the GSX-S1000GT+.
@GIGABACHI5 ай бұрын
"Finally, a better side by side comparison would be the Suzuki GSX-S1000GX+ rather than the GSX-S1000GT+." Exactly my thoughts.
@1MrBryn6 ай бұрын
I never use the Bluetooth features that run off my BMW'S dash, but I use the turn by turn directions constantly. Being able to just hit a button to direct you home when you've been out all day exploring is a fantastic feature
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Yes. Once you get your device set-up correctly, phone mirroring is excellent.
@alphajed77006 ай бұрын
You should remake this content by replacing Suzuki GT with the GX as soon as that bike comes to your country on March.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Already on the schedule!
@chrissunde11046 ай бұрын
I'm with you. The Suzuki is the more compelling machine. Great straightforward review. Well done
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Thanks, Chris.
@stole1815 ай бұрын
I have 2022. Tracer 9Gt. I’m 6’4”, tried to seat on Suzuki and already didn’t like it. Much more room and adjustability on tracer. Funny that everyone is complaining for wind shield. I don’t have any issues with it. Summer, hot days I keep it all the way down to get some more air. Cold and windy days all the way up. Never got that head wobbles that everyone mentions. Only thing I had to change, I got Corbin seat for it(factory one the worst ever). Corbin was little stiff till it broke down, now is perfect. Also forgot to mention that I had Fz/mt09 in 2014, so knew that sweet engine before I got the tracer.
@RideSafeNSmart6 ай бұрын
Good review! 🙌 I loved my 2021 mt09 and that cp3 engine really is impressive but imho the improvement you mentioned over the ride quality is equally applicable to the engine. It somehow feels tighter in both departments but also more supple. Loved the mt09, dirty air, looks and quality is what swung me away from a T9Gt and towards the GixusGT+. She is thirstier but overall im smitten with mine
@ciaranfitzgerald24915 ай бұрын
Can’t understand why Yamaha doubled down on the adventure bike looks for the new model. A more sporty look would appeal to me more
@veljkovic924 ай бұрын
Exactly what I thought about it. I had previous generation which looked more sporty and this one has less sporty lines.
@edgarviera81206 ай бұрын
Loved your report because it covered everything what a end user would be dealing with when living with the beast. And also, these are the two models I’ve been contemplating in recent months to replace my aging 13 year old Suzuki GSX 1250 with 97,000 miles. Thanks again 👍🏼
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Our pleasure, Edgar. Happy riding!
@hjmoto6 ай бұрын
The Suzuki is mostly based on a sportbike platform. Not the same as the Tracer. If you like sportbikes but want some utility out of it, get the Suzuki. I demoed the 24' Tracer and love it. In stock form, no bike is perfect. But you can make it better for you through adding various aftermarket items that can make it more personal for you. This review is a biased review, but I understand. A Kawasaki Ninja 1000 SX would have been a similar bike to review with the Suzuki. I had a 20' MT-10 before and tried to make it into a sports touring machine. But it was still not that comfortable for me. I'm 6'1 and the Tracer was a lot more comfortable. Plus, not everyone needs a liter bike. The Tracer has plenty of power for me and what I will be using it for.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Why do you say the review is biased?
@ragerider62836 ай бұрын
Nice review. Will be interesting to see how the new GSXS1000GX-GT+ (FFS lol) fairs in a group test against the competitors in this sector & it's sibling here too.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Exactly! So many similar bikes.
@04yzfr63 ай бұрын
Yamaha is slipping not having a tourer based around the R1/MT-10
@lelouchabrilvelda17942 ай бұрын
The Tmax, Xmax, Nmax the the best selling for touring here in ASIA. I know this is not available in the US but who cares.
@TheSteveSteele5 ай бұрын
I don’t know about the Yamaha that much but the Suzuki GSX-S1000GT+ is a great bike. It seems to reflect where Suzuki is headed with some of their bikes. I really liked it when I rode it, and I think it’s one of their better bikes overall currently.
@AzraelIgnis3 ай бұрын
I've caught myself turning my 2020 mt09 into a sport tourer since I've turned 40. My wrists and arms are killing me, I need more storage space, I want cruise control. The list goes on. I do a lot of commuting to work and the more I think about it, the more I need a sport tourer in my life. I'll probably stick with the Tracer because they have some decent financing deals going on directly through Yamaha and I just love the specs of the Mt-09 engine. It fits my needs. I'm sure a few of you know my struggle and just laughing at my existential crisis because you can relate.
@drobeofwar75882 ай бұрын
I don't understand people complaining about wind. I've done 9 hours straight on a bike coping full wind. You're on a motorcycle, you are going to cop wind
@PaulKind3d2 ай бұрын
that is totally different than having all that force spread across your body redirected to the top of your head. A bad windscreen is infinitely worse than NO wind screen. Additionally size is not much of a factor when it comes to buffetting. A big wind screen leaves a HUGE wake of distrubed air you are sitting in 1 millisecond later. But yea, windscreens done right reduce fatigue, windscreens done wrong will give headaches and discomfort the moment you get to speed. A naked bike is just incomming wind and its even fresh air, not disturbed and buffetter and directed at your head. thats why you think the way you do, you havent ridden with a windscreen that is poorly adjusted to your height then traveled any distance.
@robertf33976 ай бұрын
Good objective comparison of these bikes. Thanks for talking about the wind noise and leg/seating position. I wonder where the FJR 1300 (2016 +) or Tiger 900 GT Pro would fit into comparison.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
The FJR is a bit of an old school tourer that's a lot heavier, and the Triumph runs on 19/17in. wheels, so that's more comparable to a GS. Both are excellent bikes, however. The Yamaha has made a huge mark in that space, especially against bike like the ST Honda range. I haven't had much time on a GT Pro. Might be time for a revisit...
@maximk25376 ай бұрын
Great review! Good stuff
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@cpuuk6 ай бұрын
Ah, a useful test on comparable models. Thx.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
You bet!
@rob.fisher6 ай бұрын
Good video - I totally get that Suzuki now do a tall rounder but I think this is a comparison most people will consider if cross shopping for a touring type bike 👍✌️
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Wow someone gets it! Thanks Rob.
@erwinagnes73582 ай бұрын
My 2003 Honda ST came with linked braking system. It's an old system already
@randycallow37362 ай бұрын
This is always weird because nobody ever really talks about fit, I have ridden lots of Yamahas in last 4 years. And only a few Suzukis . And in line 4 compared to the 3 for open road or freeway riding, the 4 is better in every way and close in gas mileage. Both bikes come with handlebars which depending on the rider is worth millions. If you ride a bike with clip on bars or a cast alloy system, if you don't like the position you are toast. Both bikes allow you to change position a little bit using different bars,bends and risers. The reach of each bike is different and where your feet fall to the footpegs also different. Out of these 2 Yamaha is a little more comfortable on your back and shoulders. Yamaha has tons of aftermarket windshields available, I had issues with all Suzukis including a SV I used for a few months and a previous Bandit 1250 which was great in every way. I like the service interval for both bikes. Just thinking that touring is out on the road more than canyons, Suzuki is pretty good. Don't know the contact points for Yamaha luggage but the Tenere OEM luggage is absolutely garbage and the tiny screws securing the cam locks should be in a horror movie!! Don't know how to say blue Loctite in Japanese!! Both bikes are really good.. don't know from stats but from just looking Yamaha is taller, riding position higher than Suzuki by 8in plus.
@FrankBonessa4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the news, I'm picking up one in red on tues. Can't wait.
@cyclenews3 күн бұрын
Enjoy!
@FrankBonessa2 күн бұрын
@@cyclenews Most definitely. thnx.
@eagledrummer235 ай бұрын
A really interesting conclusion on what is the better touring bike! This is why reviews are important; you'd never look at these two bikes and think the suzuki was better for long trips. Though I'm sure someone has solved the buffeting issue with the aftermarket?
@user-sw8nr8wr6t6 ай бұрын
The 1000GT not having a center-stand is a real con.
@nicholasleistra99206 ай бұрын
Can we see the Tracer vs the 2024 GSX-S1000GX (GX not the GT)
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
As soon as it becomes available in the U.S, yes.
@shivamarya52256 ай бұрын
Gsx s1000 GX version comes with a center stand and adaptive dampers, it's more comparable with the tracer since it's also a adventure bike
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
It's not an adventure bike. It runs on 17-inch wheels with sport touring Dunlop tires. But don't worry we'll test it against the Yamaha when the bike is available.
@shivamarya52256 ай бұрын
@@cyclenews adventure touring sort of bike just like the tracer 9, which according to yamaha is sport adventure, gt is more focused on touring which is a good thing cause most people use these bikes for touring. Gx is the same, its taller, more ground clearance, more suspension and more upright than the gt. S1000 gt is of the last proper sport touring bike left rather than a just sport bike with saddle bags or a bike with sport in name only
@dcxplant6 ай бұрын
100% on CarPlay and Android Auto.
@Cal_lane_splitterАй бұрын
Problem is fuel mileage, I commute 48 miles each way every day. I need at least 220 miles out of a tank which means I am filling up every other day (live in NorCal, we all commute that, I can't understand why anyone would sit in a car in a parking lot on I5 or I80. It's a joke, but never the less), So Suzuki has an awesome engine, beautiful bike, but fails on giving it a tank that can get me to work without filling up 25% more often. I have a BMW R1200RT and a Tracer and other bikes, those 2 at least make 2 round trips just fine, but I need Suzuki to add another gallon or so and I will drop the Yamaha (it is a really good engine) and enjoy the extra HP and seat comfort (Tracer seat is crap). Suzuki you make awesome bikes (I own a 750) but you have to think about the customer, you say its a commuter, give it more fuel.
@LooxJJАй бұрын
I personally prefer the style of SX with small 19L fuel tank. Small, huggable, tight is what I prefer - and same goes with Ninja 1000SX, Tracer, KTM Duke...realistic touring range would be about 150 miles (which is a bit short). I heard Suzuki GX model or Triumph Tiger 900 touring versions have about 200~230 miles range - but need to check on that. Do check out other models that may have longer legs.
@stoggy483918 күн бұрын
5 Gallon tank is pretty big. Is it moto gp gearing?
@olliemh794 ай бұрын
Surely the new Suzuki Gx is the direct comparison to the tracer,🤷🏻
@cyclenews4 ай бұрын
It wasn't available at the time of testing.
@olliemh794 ай бұрын
Shame that's the video I wanna see👍🏻
@awakeadventurer91982 ай бұрын
@@olliemh79I'm interested in all 3, so it works for me.
@michael-masi-20212 ай бұрын
@@cyclenewswhat about now?
@PankajkcPANKAJKC-xp1st6 ай бұрын
Nice 👍👍 video 🙏
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@johnshropshire33995 ай бұрын
I appreciate your perspective . Great video !
@cyclenews5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tomkristiannerb74356 ай бұрын
Great T-shirt 😁
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
It goes well... ;)
@USAMAXI420696 ай бұрын
shoukld have compared the GSX s1000GX not the gt
@desertedcake6 ай бұрын
It doesn't come out until March
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Yes, we know. We'll do it when the bike becomes available from Suzuki USA in a couple of months.
@christophereaves71086 ай бұрын
for me the tracer is an ultimate Tourer, i purchased the MRA Vario Screen its a game changer.. The Suzuki is a blatant copy of the Kawasaki z1000sx for me. Yamaha all the way especially with that CP3
@dumptrump37883 ай бұрын
Motorcycle to motorcycle, the Tracer wins for me, every day. Yes, the screen & seat SUCKS, but it can be put right easily & for not much money. HOWEVER, Yamaha North America hardly have any in stock & there's no accessories, I've been trying to get a heated comfort seat FOR 3 YEARS! Yamama N America bleat "Supply chain issues" but dealers in the rest of the world don't have any trouble getting OEM accessories. Yamaha did make a major mistake with the color, who on earth thinks making a bike the same color as the road & not giving you the option of something else, is a good idea? It screms "Please run into me because you didn't see me." Suzuki's GSX8R comes in bright yellow & that's what you want, you want to be seen.
@gogglespizzano65406 ай бұрын
Love the shirt.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
;)
@splodge57145 ай бұрын
Between these I'd go with the Suzuki. I couldn't put up with the Yamaha looks and the wind noise. But the Kawasaki Z1000SX beats both hands down.
@TheSteveSteele5 ай бұрын
The Suzuki GSX-S1000GT+ is a really good bike. I got a chance to test one a few weeks back and I was really impressed. It seems this is one of the bikes that Suzuki actually cares about. I’d like to test the Z1000X. For Japanese bikes I tend to like Suzuki and Kawasaki most of the time. I’d like to see Suzuki do something like the H2.
@michael-masi-20212 ай бұрын
@@TheSteveSteeledon't hold your breath. Suzuki are afraid of technology and the H2 is. A tech beast.
@UncleWally36 ай бұрын
By virtue of ergonomics alone, isn’t the better apples-to-apples comparison between a GT and a GX?
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
The GX wasn't available for this test, so we got the GT instead.
@cj5486 ай бұрын
No. This video is intended to help Riders choose which motorcycle they want. Could be a scooter versus a chopper
@sagarthapa37656 ай бұрын
SAME! I was about to say the same thing, but no let's comapre the Diavel to the Rocket! Let's compare the sports tourer to an adventure tourer!
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
"The new 2024 TRACER 9 GT+ is Yamaha’s ultimate Sport Tourer with a best-in-class specification that delivers unprecedented levels of versatility, functionality, comfort and control." That is a direct quote from Yamaha's website. There is nothing ADV tour-er about the Tracer. @@sagarthapa3765
@sagarthapa37656 ай бұрын
@@cyclenews You're right, there is nothing ADV tourer about the Tracer, except, it's got flat handlebars unlike the Suzuki (sorry I can't keep up with the names) and when Yamaha doesn't have a clipped on 'road' touring machines like the FJR used to, then comparing two bikes whose ergonomics aren't similar doesn't make sense. In my opinion. Because the Tracer is going to be more upright. Like the new Suzuki flat handlebar version based on the same engine. The title seems to be a bike vs. bike comparison.
@jamesonpace7266 ай бұрын
Wish someone could explain to me why radar cruise is a good idea on a bike, 'cuz I can't find any reason....
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
It's very handy once you get used to it, but the system isn't perfect. It can take a while for the system to re-engage drive once the car in front has moved out of the way. A better option would be to have cruise control that is both regular cruise control and radar assisted so the rider can choose.
@JimGoryeb6 ай бұрын
It really depends on the implementation. I’ve got radar cruise on my Honda Ridgeline and my Audi Q7. The Audi reacts immediately and smoothly when passing/changing lanes. The Honda is slow to react and clunky and , therefore, less useful. Sounds like the Yamaha system isn’t perfect. So it might prove less useful.
@jaythomasni6 ай бұрын
Yamahas has good design before. Now they have the Agricultual or Contruction machine look..
@VoLuTheR6 ай бұрын
Interesting, I thought the GX would be perfect againts T9 GT
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Suzuki America didn't have a GX ready in time for this test. Should have them in the next few weeks.
@kresimirmilisa55605 ай бұрын
Both these touring bikes are amazing to drive good video😊
@cyclenews5 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@nolifeoffline81185 ай бұрын
Comparing apples and oranges.
@eagledrummer235 ай бұрын
not really, they're both sport tourers. They may have different geometry and different styles but they're trying to accomplish the same thing. Both sporty lightweight 17" bikes
@nolifeoffline81185 ай бұрын
@@eagledrummer23 I would not describe tracer as sport. And lightweight litre bike sounds kinda not right.
@eagledrummer235 ай бұрын
It's all relative though... for touring bikes these are lightweight. They are far sportier than most of the competition they would be pitched against. No one is saying these are sporty like a track bike because that's not the intent of these bikes. The tracer can't be considered an adv bike with a 17" front; it's an upright sport tourer. @@nolifeoffline8118
@Paul-yv5yj5 ай бұрын
Brilliant review...thank you!
@cyclenews5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@stevesmith7566 ай бұрын
Wish the Yamaha had more wind protection and a shaft drive and hydro clutch
@andrewcherouvis67036 ай бұрын
The suzuki 1000GT is very expensive to insure in the states compared to the Tracer. That was the decisive factor for me.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Good to know.
@marcusgeorge18256 ай бұрын
Go with the Suzuki, spend part of the difference, first thing get rid of the OEM rubbish tyres and a set of S22/23’s and heated grips. All good. 👍😎
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
The S23's are a heck of a good tire.
@marcusgeorge18256 ай бұрын
@@cyclenews They are my pick within this category as I find them more confidence inspiring compared to the others and my lap times around Phillip Island when I compared them to the others to also translate into just over a second a lap quicker. In both dry and wet conditions. Depending on where you live in Melbourne it’s between 1 and 3 hours away.
@stevesmith7566 ай бұрын
Prob just stick with my FJR1300. The perfect ST bike
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Still an awesome machine.
@brianglendenning16326 ай бұрын
@@cyclenewsstill being used by NSW HWP!
@FatherOBlivion6 ай бұрын
It's really unfortunate the Tracer is so ugly. I went to the dealer a couple weeks back half expecting to buy one, but just couldn't get over the looks. I'm generally willing to trade appearance for performance, but it can't be so hideous I want to throw a tarp over it to avoid seeing it every time enter the garage 🤮
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Ha! Brutal assessment, but not far off the mark.
@michaelhart58865 ай бұрын
That can be said for plenty of the ugly transformer styled bikes of the last decade. I think I'll stick with my 2008 vfr800 even if it does need a few more horsepowers
@StreakSRM5 ай бұрын
The looks were also the reason I couldn't pull the trigger on the tracer. I ended up getting a ninja 1000sx
@anthonypellegrino16333 ай бұрын
I rarely look at the front of my “21” Tracer while riding it 😂
@bicivanaswegen20776 ай бұрын
Good choice , Suzuki
@Fernando900546 ай бұрын
The tracer 9 GT +, has two “faulty” features , or do I should say, not so well thought as they could be: - The wind shield, and - the pirate eye lights (when on running daylight regulated) These are killer buying negatives that I can’t overcome.
@nemerkha6 ай бұрын
Both personal preference 🤣🤣
@Fernando900546 ай бұрын
O didn’t understood fully your reply, if it is concerned to the bikes itself or two the “faulty” situations That I’ve pointed out on the Tracer. The latter is objective matter, not just a question of preference. ✌🏻✌🏻
@nemerkha6 ай бұрын
@@Fernando90054 screen and looks. The 2 are subjective not objective. The screen depends on how tall you are and what helmet you used. It’s simple. The looks? Well some like it, others don’t. Matter of taste and not a fault of the bike.
@Fernando900546 ай бұрын
@@nemerkhayes you are right, in my subjective opinion those are points that from my point of view could be bettered but I accept the correction, maybe is just me, I agree!✌🏻
@chrisssinstockholm6 ай бұрын
The Tracer 9 is crazy expensive. In sweden it cost almost twice the price of a Tracer 7. That does not make sense.
@articcircleado6 ай бұрын
I love the suzuki
@krazokid196 ай бұрын
Suzuki Gsxs1000gt > Yamaha Tracer 9! Get more for your money!
@fjrboy6 ай бұрын
A few more own goals on the Suzuki is......no centre stand or provision to fit one and no way to fit a top box? Supposed to be a sports tourer, my missus like a lot of pillions will not ride without one. So I bought the Yamaha
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Yeah the lack of a center stand is a bummer.
@shivamarya52256 ай бұрын
You can get it on the Gx version
@splodge57145 ай бұрын
Since 1987 and my GSXR1100 I've owned so many bikes without a centre stand and never found it a problem.
@fjrboy5 ай бұрын
So much easier with one to do basic maintenance...oiling chain on a tour is pain In.arse, etc
@RaulTecar5 ай бұрын
This is a pointless comparison, why not compare the Tracer with the S1000GX, as that is the direct competitor? Yamaha has nothing in the S1000GT class, only Kawasaki, with the SX.
@cyclenews5 ай бұрын
The GX is not yet available in the USA.
@ryan-jaybalisi52573 ай бұрын
I would agree on you.
@awakeadventurer91982 ай бұрын
Im actually considering the Suz GT, the GX, and the Tracer 9 GT. So this comparison is perfect for me.
@SteveBrigdenАй бұрын
@@awakeadventurer9198same for me. Directly relevant for me too.
@xpllmmff6 ай бұрын
you are comparing apple to orange as these two bikes have totally different riding position ergonomics. Tracer 9 is a typical road adv touring bike, and its counterpart from suzuki should be S1000GX. This S1000GT, on the other hand, is categorized as sports touring, and if you are looking for similar model from yammie, a FJR1300 has more comparability than tracer.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
"The new 2024 TRACER 9 GT+ is Yamaha’s ultimate Sport Tourer with a best-in-class specification that delivers unprecedented levels of versatility, functionality, comfort and control." This is a direct quote from Yamaha's website. The Tracer 9 GT + is not an ADV tourer. It runs 17-inch wheels just like the Suzuki. They both have single piece high rise handlebars. They are more similar than not. When we get the GX in the USA, we'll compare the two.
@G-Man015 ай бұрын
Heart: S1000GT. Head: Tracer. It's a shame that Suzuki does what it always does. Miss out on critical features. Whether it's a cost cutting tactic or marketing stupidity, it really is a shame that they don't just make fully featured bikes.
@olivierrassemusse21452 ай бұрын
Nice video. They are not exactly in the same category, no ? GSX-S1000GX vs Tracer 9 GT are crossover :)
@rodneyhull97646 ай бұрын
screens are ok if they are the size of a barn door,otherwise do without
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Correct
@CraigSmith5682 ай бұрын
I don't track ride, so all the tech is just useless for me. I have never found a situation where I thought I needed adaptive cruise control. I would take the Suzuki all day over the Yamaha.
@Sporttourer2 ай бұрын
All the tech is for the road and radar cruise is very useful for maintaining speed on the highway when following someone
@CraigSmith5682 ай бұрын
I have never once thought I needed any of the tech. If I'm following someone I'm not using cruise control. I just turn it off. I only use it on the freeway anyway.
@stoggy48399 күн бұрын
@@Sporttourer Yea, i don't like cruise at all. Its just scetchy as shit to give up control on a motorcycle. I don't care i don't want it. Just a cheap throttle lock for a few minutes is good enough.
@PaulKind3d2 ай бұрын
i want a gsx1000gt about as much as I want a m109r. I guess ill need to get both. My DR desperately needs some stall mates and that would round my riding quite nicely. 1 for spirited long distance riding.... 1 for bar hopping and local disturbances..... the DR for litterally everything else. The DR will certainly have a stall mate this year, the question is which one.... m109r or gsxgt? I know neither compete with each other excepting in my heart.
@FrankBonessa2 күн бұрын
Gt, 09 is cool, but not very useful. GT is a fast stepping mule.
@orlandogabriel93995 ай бұрын
Nice review. From Philippines
@motormichael58316 ай бұрын
Suzuki has no top case option. None. Makes me question if the Suzuki sub frame could even handle an aftermarket solution. That alone gives the nod to the Yamaha, given they are supposed to be tourers.
@marksimpson52186 ай бұрын
Yes, the sub frame on my tracer 900 gt was not designed to take a top box, but the new tracer 9 can. Not sure about the Suzuki.
@jordanjoestar88396 ай бұрын
The subframe is incredibly strong and suzuki does very very tough testing. That trellis rear end can definitely handle it. Aftermarket probably already has it solved as well.
@motormichael58316 ай бұрын
@@jordanjoestar8839 How do you know? During the press release, the chief engineer explicitly said the bike was not engineered to carry a top case, only for light, soft luggage.
@marcusgeorge18256 ай бұрын
Suzuki have never called it their small block Chevy engine as this could only come from America. Manufacturers, in general, attempt to cut down the R&D budgets by simply utilising an engine in multiple platforms. Nothing new here considering it’s been done for decades and centuries when it isn’t motor specific.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Look, Marcus, it was an off the cuff remark from a few people within Suzuki USA's management. It wasn't an official line said by Suzuki Japan. Don't read too much into it.
@marcusgeorge18256 ай бұрын
@@cyclenews It’s OK. I get it as it would only come from Americans as each car manufacturing country that’s produced a specific engine generally has a similar type of comment. Even Australia, at one stage produced the world’s fastest production sedan in the Ford Falcon Phase 3 GTHO. Check that one out if interested. All good.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
@@marcusgeorge1825 I'm well versed on the GTHO. Now that's a real car...
@marcusgeorge18256 ай бұрын
@@cyclenews and now super expensive in original mint condition.
@JS-nf1sn6 ай бұрын
I'm a Yamaha fan, big time, but the Tracers are ugly. I had an FZ6 fifteen years ago, reminds me of that, but not in a good way. I'm sure it's a brilliant bike....
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
The FZ6 was a great bike
@ninji522610 күн бұрын
I don't think Yamaha has a proper sport tourer because the tracer is definitely not it, that's a scooby doo level adventure bike with a sport touring mask on (and not even a very convincing one). We need a comfy R1 styled bike with bags, then this would be a accurate comparison.
@stoggy4839Сағат бұрын
an R1 is no comparison to a gsx-s. maybe mt10 but they made the wheel base on it too narrow it would be bouncy as shit. The tracer loses because it has weak crappy suspension and less breaking power.
@japprivera31296 ай бұрын
Only reason I WILL NOT buy the Suzuki is the center stand. Call it how you wanted, but if it says "tourer" somewhere, it has to have a center stand.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Fair call.
@shivamarya52256 ай бұрын
The Gx version has center stand
@ogdog1235 ай бұрын
After maker centre stand is available
@oscarsheen30456 ай бұрын
Ahhh I’ll just buy a tmax 🎉
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Nice
@ChrisSauer-oe5ve5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣 🛵 💨
@ApexMotow6 ай бұрын
A better apples-to-apples matchup comparison would have been the upright Tracer 9 vs Suzuki's upright GSX-S1000GX.
@cyclenews6 ай бұрын
Absolutely. But Suzuki didn't have the GX ready in time so this is what we got.
@mm-hq4qh5 ай бұрын
lol
@DC-BGАй бұрын
트레이서의 스크린은 정말 최악이야....근데 디자인은 이쁘지 않음????
@RobertBurwoodАй бұрын
No its horrible looking!
@DC-BGАй бұрын
@@RobertBurwood 아니야!!! 트레이서는 엄청 아름다워!!!! ㅜㅜ
@22RoadKing64724 күн бұрын
I agree that the Tracer is ugly.
@DC-BG23 күн бұрын
@@22RoadKing647 NO!!!!!!!!!!!! ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ
@888jackflash6 ай бұрын
SINGLE HEADLIGHT: NO ONE WANTS THIS. What is Suzuki thinking? "Sporty"-look??
@Jeffrey_t_e5 ай бұрын
They both have one light for low beams. The solution is to leave the high beams on during the day.
@888jackflash5 ай бұрын
Not the best of solutions. Why should we have to "settle" for that? @@Jeffrey_t_e
@nogerboher52664 ай бұрын
Yamaha vs Suzuki! Which one will break first?! 🤣No but in all seriousness how come Yamaha in collab with car companies such as Toyota, Ford, Lexus and Volvo - and then Suzuki with their own cars, both make some of the most reliable and best performing car engines in the entire market but somehow can't make reliable bike engines even if you held a gun to their head?! 😂😂
@messageinathrottle40462 ай бұрын
My Yamaha and Suzuki experiences seem to be quite opposite of yours. I ride both (current stable includes a 2019 MT-07 and a 2008 Bandit 1250s), have been riding for years, ride daily in all weather (including at least one annual snowstorm I didn’t expect 😂), tour and commute, and have never had a single repair. I just do rudimentary maintenance and replace wear items.
@PaulKind3d2 ай бұрын
im riding a 2007 suzuki dr with unknown miles on it. Bought it used from a guy who did TAT riding on it said he crossed america a few times with it. On the new odometer its at 17k miles but he had only swapped to a vapor a year before i bought it from him. Has some upgrades to it, but the engine is original, the clutch has been replaced 2x (once by me), and its sparkplug blew out of the engine once and i had to timesert it. Bought for 3k, and guess what that motor runs like it was built yesterday.... The GSX1000 motor is equally proven and reliable. People typically claim any bike of the japanese 4 are effectively bomb proof and have odometers to prove it. If you think these machines are unreliable im going to have to say the problem is likely you. not the bike. They are unbelievably reliable (both suzi and yami). If i didnt knw better id think you were trolling.
@bikersquest2 ай бұрын
Since when were Yam and Suzuki engines not reliable? They literally came 1st and 2nd on an motorcycle reliability index....
@johngodden43634 ай бұрын
This guys been paid off by Suzuki. His bias is through the roof.
@cyclenews4 ай бұрын
Nice try
@paulocometti431714 күн бұрын
Stop put ABS and every bikes...
@extrajava917512 күн бұрын
why
@stoggy48399 күн бұрын
@@extrajava9175 ABS is dangerous. It doesn't work and it causes brake failure. Noone breaks by pumping the brakes for reason. They run the brake hoses on top of the engine to get from the master cylinder to the ABS pump. Heat kills brake fluid.
@cyclenews9 күн бұрын
They can't. It's the law.
@stoggy48399 күн бұрын
@@cyclenews so that is only in england, maybe EU too. and if the law is endangering people then the law is criminal. Whats the fine? Id bet the ABS crap costs around $1000 US. I'd pay the fine and not pay for ABS. As in I will pay the fine and you will not charge me for ABS crap. I live in the US though, i don't have to have ABS.
@cyclenews9 күн бұрын
@@stoggy4839 The manufacturers don't make U.S.-only bikes. They make bikes for Europe and that's what everyone gets worldwide, including America. Hence the reason why all engines have to conform to Euro 5+ (whatever it is now) regulations.
@stoggy483918 күн бұрын
we don't need apple car play for our bikes we need the ability to tune our EFI. Get rid of ABS too. keep your eyes on the road... WTF. Use a cardo or sena or just head phones.