How a PRO redesigns a VTuber || IRyS 2.0 Design Deep Dive

Project Hope’s VSinger IRyS of Hololive English debuted on July 11th, 2021, and served as the follow up to the company’s stellar success of Hololive Myth just 10 months prior. After facing backlash due to her Live 2D Model's appearance, Cover Corporation and Redjuice worked to design, illustrate and rig a new model for IRyS. In this Video, I give my opinions and analysis on how effective the IRyS 2.0 model is!
[Time Stamps]
0:00 History of IRyS
0:57 Introduction
1:13 Meet the Artist
2:17 Addressing the 1.0
2:36 1.0 Art Style
4:10 1.0 Live 2D Execution
5:59 1.0 Clarity
7:47 1.0 Recap
8:14 Admire with me
9:04 Addressing the 2.0
9:10 2.0 Art Style
10:26 2.0 Live 2D
11:23 2.0 Clarity
13:53 Character Lore Progression
15:36 So, how did Redjuice do it?
16:48 Conclusion
Credits
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[@Toro-vw5kk]

Thoughtful comment

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for your thoughtful comment!

[@qqqhrjfjrnf]

A very thoughtful comment

[@isaachester8475]

Thoughtful reply

[@Mati-kun]

Woha, thats deep

[@Kromunos]

Incredible

[@andrewseet4408]

Small heads up about the designs of her fans. I believe the reason she was able to convince her artist father to include them. Was because they were originally designed by Sana.

[@YamAlbat]

Ahhhh really?! That makes it 10000x more special. Thank you for letting me know 🥹💕

[@andrewseet4408]

@@YamAlbat no problem.

[@jacobosaldarriaga4820]

Actually, she said that it was a design choice by her papa, and she gladly accepted having them.

[@andrewseet4408]

@@jacobosaldarriaga4820 gotcha. Do you have proof? I want to see. Because that is really sweet of her papa.

[@jacobosaldarriaga4820]

@@andrewseet4408 I will try to find it, it was during one of her zatsudan sections of one of her streams after her reveal. I will comment again once I find it. It was either the "get used to newrys" or Outlast stream.

[@samfivedot]

A lot of people were saying IRyS' old design was too busy, but what's funny is I honestly don't think her new design is THAT much less intricate. They just cut streamlined it a bit by cutting out some of the elements that were less noticeable or didn't work as well in Live 2D. Like I never noticed the wings on her dress until this video pointed them out. (It kind of reminds me of my own approach to character design, where I just throw every idea I have into the initial concept and then in later drawings pare back a lot of the extraneous detail) I do kind of miss the color scheme of 1.0, though. Her new palette still looks great and has a lot of pop, but there's something about the darker colors in 1.0 that keeps drawing my eye.

[@YamAlbat]

Hey Lance! Nice to see you in my comments section again! Wonderful addition to the discussion as always. Streamlined is the perfect term to put to the 2.0. The elements aren’t really different, they’re just better organized in my opinion. I will miss the black and white a little bit myself. I hope it comes back in a future outfit!

[@Filcayra72]

@@YamAlbat Streamklined and yet all the fan artists have been memeing about their struggles with the new outfit being essentially as difficult as the first one haha

[@tothebeyond6318]

I can't wait for Irys to get some new outfit with darker side pallette

[@Zergonapal]

The brighter palette will fit more when she is collabing with other people. There was always this sense that IRyS was being lit by a darker set of lights when she was collabing as V1.0

[@supanjibobu372]

Her old model wouldn't translate well into a 3D form.

[@Zone_Theory]

A few minor notes: - The redesign was not initially Cover's decision, but IRyS', she pushed really hard for the redesign. It had been in the works for over a year, which explains the lack of new outfits (why bother making a new outfit if she's going to change models?) - She was able to remove the halo and wings in her 1.0, this was not a new feature of the 2.0. - Bloom and Gloom are not representations of her audience, they are her mascots. Her audience representation would be "GuyRyS", the stickman character she often draws on her schedules and shows up on her stream. Also, she stated that B&G were not added to the outfit at her request and that it was a choice by Redjuice to include them.

[@TanteiFox]

"The redesign was not initially Cover's decision, but IRyS', she pushed really hard for the redesign. It had been in the works for over a year, which explains the lack of new outfits," this was my understanding as well, so thank you for clarifying that.

[@minariyerin3431]

Yeah this is what I have heard from my friends that are her Hardcore fans.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for clarifying these details! I appreciate you taking the time to bring those up. I typically have more time to research into these things before publishing a video, but I felt the need to get this video out within the same week as her reveal! I am more of a listener of IRyS's music than an attendant at her streams, and I guess that shows through the minor details I missed.

[@YamAlbat]

So glad she got what she wanted in the end!

[@optidalfprime3904]

Irys was originally supposed to be set apart from hololive gens as she debuted as a singer originally. However, she integrated naturally and soon there was no real difference between her purpose and other hololive gens. Now, her design is more hololive than something different

[@YamAlbat]

Big agree! I think you hit the nail on the head here! Thank you for sharing your insight!

[@artist0154]

also works because she is now kinda like the new 5th council member

[@Keirnoth]

@@artist0154 I think this is where it necessitated her getting the redesign done. IryS is more or less carrying on Sana's legacy as the 5th council member because you got Bloom and Gloom on her shoulders as a means of honoring Sana's contributions. IryS has been collabing with council way more often these days and while I still miss Sana the cinnamon roll, I think it was only natural that she became close with HoloCouncil. She's helping to fill that giant hole that was left in a lot of Sana's old fans. Council still feels complete and it was fortunate IryS was there at the right moment to carry on Sana's legacy.

[@haku_yuki2005]

@@Keirnoth to be honest , i initially think that Irys in her start was alone and try to find her way, and to be honest, i always think that she was part from the Council, so actually, it fits so well on her to be part on the Council.

[@AldenEmroch]

since the first time i saw her design i liked it, until i saw how it moved, it looked so awkward and weird, i adore the details and everything but all of it gets very lost as a vtuber model, when i saw the redesign i was a bit sad bc of the changes mainly on the face but when i saw it move the improvement was inmediately notorious, i'm glad Redjuice managed to improve the model without sacrificing the things that make her design unique , shows just how much they know about character design and color theory, is just so pretty

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah, I agree! I really appreciate Redjuice studying up on Live 2D to give us the best end product possible! Part of me hopes that some details from the 1.0 will make a return in some form in future outfits! I’m sure redjuice will do an excellent job designing her additions to her wardrobe. Thanks for commenting and adding to the discussion!

[@firepuppies4086]

The old model was more of a painting. Looked great but in motion was a bit, eeeeeh...

[@savruenvod]

Honestly it doesnt matter how many unique details you have if there are too much of them and theh conflict each other

[@ledieumort]

Just a clarification, the rigging wasn't made by Redjuice, but was made by a new rigger that clearly made a waaay better job

[@IunaIia]

@@ledieumort Brian Tsui is so good, I love watching the showcases he posts

[@mistress3847]

The 1.0 is like her early birth of conflict between an angel and a demon. The 2.0 is when she managed to find the control in her demon blood and finding hope in her angel blood. Truly one of the greatest progressions in vtuber history. I legit cannot wait for her 3d now that her model and design is 'meant' for vtubing now!

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah! I love how the lore was tied in. Her 3D debut was just announced to be at Holo Fes 4. I can't wait to see it!

[@shijai]

I actually love Irys' original model. She was unique and refreshing. But yeah, I can understand the technicalities of it.

[@YamAlbat]

Same! Part of me will always appreciate and miss the 1.0 IRyS! Thanks for your comment ✨

[@ikr9358]

When Irys was revealing her new outfit, I was not initially sold on her dress, when we could only see the lower half of it. However, I was won over when the full dress was revealed. I find it interesting that I found the whole much more appealing than just seeing a part of it.

[@YamAlbat]

Agreed! I saw the red stockings and got a little nervous at the reveal! I didn’t know how I felt about all the red and purple! Seeing her bright smiling face melted all my worries though, happiness looks good on IRyS! Thank you for adding to the discussion!

[@tothebeyond6318]

tbh her 1.0 version Halo's and her hair design were my favourite part of her, Im suprised that they divided them both into two part.

[@ulyssesthedm]

Yes, as artists we always need to bear on mind that, while detailed and complex beauty is a wonderful thing, we can use more simplicity in our art to reveal a better story, and to draw the eyes of the audience to the most important parts of the art piece.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

I adore how Bloom and Gloom were made such a visible part of her 2.0 outfit. Sana truly is eternal. 💕

[@YamAlbat]

o7 Forever a part of IRyS's 2.0 I really wish I knew that Sana was the designer of Doom and Gloom before the comments section educated me. It would've been an excuse to fit my beloafed into yet another video. Thank you for your comment!

[@IceBloo]

@@YamAlbat it’s important to note that they don’t represent her fans either. It’s her mascot like Bloop is for Gura.

[@MagmaMonika]

So glad papa redjuice was able to design irys’ new design !! He did an amazing job for both of them imo o7

[@YamAlbat]

I know right?! I was afraid that they wouldn’t have him back for the 2.0, but I’m so glad they decided to work with him again! He’s an amazing artist

[@SKy_the_Thunder]

One thing: It's been repeated a lot how 3D would have been a problem with her old design - but that's not the case at all. If anything, a 3D version would have fixed some of the issues, like the limited motion & perspective shifts or the lost details from her hair being hidden. And rigging her "complex" hair would have been much easier than for other members. You could treat it like a singular _very_ wide braid and have it move as one; setting good limits would make it _much_ easier to deal with than things like Calli's or Ina's dozens of individual strands, or outfits as complex as Sora's dress seen in the video. All the other issues with the design would have still applied, but there wouldn't have been any 3D-specific challenges with it.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for adding your insight. My expertise is illustration and I haven’t delved much into the world of 3D. This is why I left the section open and speculative. Thank you for taking the time to share!

[@SKy_the_Thunder]

​@@YamAlbat No worries, I just meant it as an addition for people who might have encountered that argument before without questioning it. Of course we can't all know about everything - I myself only have a surface-level understanding of Live2D. Funnily enough, her new design is actually _more_ work to implement in 3D, with double the braids and halos, moving independently. Pretty negligible difference though. ;)

[@sylviasana]

As someone who loveeeeee Irys’s artist’s work, I personally think the problem with her vtuber model are mainly only because the sectioning and rigging. As you said, the artist might not understand how layers supposed to move in live2d and the rigger might also had a hard time trying to adjust face perspective to match with the art style. The original nose might be able to come out a lot better if they section the layers differently and rig a ‘whole face’ differently. I believe they just need more communication between artist and rigger. They didn’t have to redesign her. Only need to fix the model itself a little. But mehhhh who cares. Now She has 2 designs from a very talented artist and that is super cool!!!!!

[@YamAlbat]

Agreed. I’m so glad Redjuice got a second chance to show that with proper understanding of Live2D, he could make something hololive fans would be happy with. I think the quality of the rigging of IRyS1.0 may allude to some less than stellar communication fostered between artists and riggers who get contracted by hololive. I hope the process that Cover uses to make new models is revamped in the future.

[@greed1914]

I do think that there is something to her first design being too complicated. She was going to have a new kimono outfit and then it just didn't happen. The changes do seem to come down to being more Live2D friendly. It's easy to focus on her looking more like the other members, but I think it was less about that and more about shifting to techniques that are known to work.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for adding your insight to the discussion! I think from a marketing standpoint, hololive needs to balance how similar and different each of their talents look. I personally tend to like unique looking VTubers, but from a business perspective, the design still has to appeal to the core audience hololive has already built to be successful. Like I mentioned, I think it would be different if IRyS was designed for an indie talent. Then the 1.0 art style would’ve been fine, it just would’ve needed some tweaks for live 2D to look fluid. That’s my 2 cents on the matter anyways!

[@bohlam6c]

yeah i think Redjuice's artstyle is just harder to adapt into a model. You can see similar changes to Aruran and Flare where their newer models has more solid strokes and simpler gradation.

[@SelecaoOfMidas]

@@bohlam6c Now that you mention it, Lack-sensei also had to make adaptations of his own art style.

[@LadyManacos]

I'm so glad Redjuice was given the opportunity to make the 2.0 - it would've been so easy for HoloLive to not give them a second chance and instead move on with a different artist. Seeing the progression of not only Irys, but also her papa, got me teary eyed.

[@YamAlbat]

Same here! There was definitely waterworks from me at the model reveal. IRyS just looked and sounded so happy with the end result! I hope Redjuice feels accomplished with this 2.0. If cover decided to go with another artist that would have made things so awkward! Thanks for your comment!

[@TheZoobZoobs]

I'll be honest, I always laughed at the neuron activation meme, but seeing IRyS's redesign legit gave me a neuron activation and I've never had that with any other Vtuber new costume/design reveals. She is just absolutely GORGEOUS.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for the comment. When I said "instant serotonin" in the video, I meant it!!! I was grinning like a fool when I saw her bright smile!

[@Vichama]

I like the darker purple much better for her hair. The pinkish color just comes off too bright. I'm not sure, but I think her head shape is now more rectangular than circle, which is throwing me off. I also agree the horns didn't need to change. Besides those minor critiques I do like the new design. It is a shame the original was just too good for live 2D.

[@YamAlbat]

I can see it! Her forehead got taller for sure. And I get why they lightened the hair for the 2.0, but I’m with you, I prefer the color of the 1.0 hair. Thanks for commenting!

[@starpeep5769]

@@YamAlbat same

[@gokbay3057]

Honestly I think I prefer the darker colours of the original design more for her as well, but looking at Hololive as a whole I think the new lighter colours fit in better.

[@kii_tsune]

I love the Bloom and Gloom included in her outfit because she wasn’t sure where they would be but she told redjuice Papa she did want them in there because Sana designed them. But she was just as excited as everyone else when she found out they were on the sleeve 🥺🥺🥺

[@YamAlbat]

o7 sana is truly eternal. That makes Bloom and Gloom extra special! Thank you for the comment!

[@kii_tsune]

@@YamAlbat it’s super adorable. Also oof. Do not do voice to text while drawing cause that was a bit unreadable in areas haha. Great video Yam

[@iClone101]

The biggest thing for me was how much more expressive her face seems now. Her original design made her face seem very stiff and almost expressionless; that problem is entirely gone with her new model. Given how much VTubers use facial expressions to convey emotions, this change feels like a major improvement.

[@OniGanon]

If anything I would say the greatest improvement is in the rigging. My biggest criticism of her original design would be in how stiff she appeared even by vtuber standards, especially in the arms, the hair and facial expressions. Now she has probably the best movement in the EN branch. Tsui did amazing work. My other criticisms of the original design are that it was overly complicated, seemed kinda blurry in the face, and her expression seemed stuck with a distant blank look in her eyes. These appear to have been addressed, except for the first. The new model is not much simpler, her hair and skirt are only slightly less crazy. As for anything in the new model I would consider a downgrade: I miss some of the asymmetry of the original.

[@YamAlbat]

I agree with all your points here! Wonderful analysis! Thanks for sharing your thoughts~

[@maikatase]

Overall, I’m really glad redjuice did the redesign, I was worried that he would drop or be dropped for someone else. I think it’s really clear that he learned a lot about designing a model for live 2d in mind. While the nose style has changed to the traditional dot, you can still see some gradient along the nose, especially in motion. Which I think is a nice subtle touch, many other anime style noses barely have that gradient and is just a dot (and in some cases like Coco’s old model, there was barely a dot/nose at all lol). As for the smaller horns being omitted, I wonder if that had more to do with the dual halo redesign? The lower halo might’ve visually clashed with the second set or horns. My only complaint I have is the 2.0 color palette might be a little over saturated.

[@YamAlbat]

Yes, I am relieved to know redjuice wasn't dropped too! He really did an excellent job. Yes there is a bit of blush underneath the dot that hint at more nose! Definitely better than nothing! I agree with your theory, that the double halo booted out the 2nd set of horns! And yes, her magenta hair is now VERY saturated. At least it will be good at grabbing attention for thumbnails! Thank you for your comment!

[@XI_VII]

I like Redjuice art so much. No wonder I feel attracted to Irys model old or new.

[@YamAlbat]

Seriously! Redjuice is a wonderful artist, I love his work both in the Vocaloid and VTuber community 💕

[@manhcuong3035]

Based

[@okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

This is a great breakdown! I personally adored Irys’ 1.0 design *because* of how different it was from the other Hololive girls - she had some quirks but it was so intricate and experimental and I loved that such a big agency let something like this happen. Seeing her 2.0 model in action, its definitely objectively better as a Vtuber model - she looked *so* clear and smooth and expressive, even with out hearing her I could feel how happy she was. Still, I miss how mature 1.0 Irys looked. I love cute characters, yeah, but when *all* the big Vtuber girls are wide-eyed, round-faced, and moe-looking, Irys’s design… forgive me for this, but she kind of gave me hope for the future of big Vtubers. She was beautiful, mature, her eyes were smaller, she had a real nose, she even had full lips and dark lipstick! Her new model is noticeably lighter themed, obviously she’s brighter and has much less black in her design (i miss the contrast), but also feels more…girlish? Her eyes are still smaller than the other girls, but they shrunk her nose and lightened her lipstick and turned her hair into pigtails with bows… Idk, personally I preferred the more mature, less cute look, just as a general character design preference. Irys herself does have a bright, bubbly, girlish sort of personality though, so I kind of have to admit to myself that this look does probably suit her personality better, too. Oh well. (Sidenote, I think you’re the first bat-themed character who actually keeps the bat nose and I love you SO much for it, plus the little curls on the side of your hair and the shape of your ears - absolutely precious. This is your first video I’ve seen but I’m already excited to see what your 2.0 design will be.)

[@silentsorrow7167]

I have never heard a better description on why differently animated designs look so wildly different! It did it such justice while also keeping in mind the intricacies of the amount of trial and error character designers have to do!!!!!!

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for commenting! The trial and error phase of character design can last years. I could not balance a design like IRyS’s at my current skill level. It would take years of experience to make such an intricate design work! Redjuice is truly a talented designer!

[@silentsorrow7167]

@@YamAlbat I am seriously in awe of your work! As someone who draws and is trying to learn about rigging and such it helps to see how others progress!!

[@fricc_picc]

i’m gonna miss 1.0 a lot but 2.0 is gorgeous and i’m glad irys got her well deserved redesign

[@YamAlbat]

I agree with you! I hope some ideas from the 1.0 are referenced in a future outfit for IRyS! Thank you for commenting!

[@umbraemilitos]

I liked her original design, and I like her redesign. As long as she is happy; that's what matters.

[@YamAlbat]

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

I always felt from debut 1.0 IrYS felt way too adherent to the character sheet, in a way that stuck out in particular because of her senpai Kiara, the product of a similarly iconic Japanese artist, huke. Kiara fit the aesthetic of huke (and goddamn does it show in her merch), but her model wasn't afraid to simplify for the clairity of motion. IrYS, in comparison, was so faithful to her reference that she actually looked like she was wearing a 90s anime mask, with dead eyes the heterochromia simply did not help and often gave her an almost crosseyed appearance. Her expressions also felt rigid and stiff with very little emotion behind them, further amplifying the uncanny effect, like looking at someone with shaved eyebrows. Yes, in stills she looked fantastic, but motion just did not work with 1.0 at all and it was distractingly noticeable even after a year of exposure. I'm so glad to see IrYS 2.0 and how happy she seems, like weights have been lifted off her shoulders.

[@lunaangel4236]

I think another point is on the colour palette. Since the original design was much darker it made all the details much harder to make out and distinguish, so on the skirt and hair it was harder to tell where one thing started and another ended without looking carefully at it.

[@YamAlbat]

Agreed! The color palette of the 2.0 definitely helps clarify and unmuddy things!

[@reaverv559]

I loved her first design, for me it was weird she looked so different from myth and council, but I loved it.

[@strayink1725]

Despite the technical issues her 1.0 model still gonna be my favorite design forever. I still remember the first time i found IRyS I'm so falling in love with her model, it's so fresh and mythical it's almost like she jumped out of fantasy art book, so lovely ♥️♥️

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for the warm comment! Glad to hear you have such a special connection with IRyS!

[@BakusanDayo]

I am hoping the success of IRyS redesign and Azki new visuals will convince Cover that, although drastic, there may be merit in allowing their talents to update their official designs overtime, understanding that this is a much more involved process than simply getting new outfits/hairs/accessories. We may not want to admit that a vtuber's visual impacts their success metrics, but the numbers don't lie.

[@YamAlbat]

Agreed. VTuber technology is growing so rapidly, it's hard to hide the disparity between generations of talents. thank you for the comment!

[@montanarose4622]

Not sure what point you’re trying to make, since they’ve done this multiple times in the past. Irys is not the first to get a redesign.

[@biasparmadi1351]

i didnt know how complex her 1.0 model is until i started drawing her

[@YamAlbat]

For real! I never got around to fan art for the 1.0 but that would be a very daunting design to recreate. Thanks for sharing!

[@gerthddyn]

One of the things people did to show how different her model was to paste her face onto other models. Hers and Anya's were completely different and in some cases unsettling. The thing I miss is her putting on different colored stockings. I like that touch, but I'm just glad that she is so happy with the new model. You could tell how excited and happy she was throughout the entire reveal and in the stream afterwards (even if she was annoyed with the Tofu). I'm not counting on it, but I really do hope she gets her 3d model in time for Holofes.

[@YamAlbat]

Luckily it was just confirmed this morning that IRyS and council will be at holofes 4!!!! I can’t wait 😭💕✨

[@nothingmatters3802]

Her old model had the uncanny valley effect with how her nose and her face were shaped. It was something that you needed to get used to.

[@YamAlbat]

Yes, I've heard that a lot of her fans got used to the old one after watching her for a bit. Thank you for adding your thoughts!

[@dcresistance]

A little correction, the redesign didn't come because of backlash, IRyS actually pushed for the redesign herself! She also had the wing and halo toggle with 1.0! I love how both are so recognizably Redjuice, as 1.0 is just his normal illustrative art style and 2.0 is his anime style

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for the corrections! That makes the redesign even more special to me!

[@adamdefibaugh9674]

Her original design was very unique in Hololive. I loved it. I was the Bee's knees for me.

[@Nomyriad]

nice analysis! I think Roberu from holostars has a similar problem with his painterly style. it just looks a bit odd when his head moves, and the shadows/highlights are very obviously painted on his skin and not moving naturally xD the skin on live2d vtuber faces kinda needs very simple lighting to get realistic 3d movement. I'm looking forward to the direction you take your model in the future! it's interesting seeing how you've changed and refined your themes so far :D

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah. Nice connection with tying back to Roberu, he totally has the same “painterly style” side effect. I’ve also found that the less shading connected to the base of the face, the easier face angles are to get right. Live 2D face angles are honestly hardest part for me (as you can probably tell from my own Live 2D model). Speaking of my own live 2D, glad to hear that you’re excited for my 2.0! I will be taking my time on it to make sure it is a proper successor to my 1.0!

[@savruenvod]

@@YamAlbat honestly i think Roberu has it better than irys 1 and doesnt look uncanny to me

[@yowamidesu]

Great video, you nailed it. I didn't dislike irys 1.0, but she was markedly different and stood out from the rest of the holo girls to where she felt out of place. Her papa did a fantastic job in helping her new model integrate better with the rest of hololive. The Bloom and Gloom was a beautiful touch. Sana is eternal o7

[@YamAlbat]

Sana is eternal! o7 Yes, IRyS definitely stood out as different in her 1.0. Which comes with a set of pros and cons. This comment section's many IRyStocrats have told me that it was IRyS who pushed for the redesign more than anyone, so my guess is she is the one who wanted to fit in. I think Cover hired her to be a Vsinger like AZKi but she went above and beyond that and assimilated in with the other VTuber talents on top of her Vsinger duties. That may be why she wanted the 2.0 to match the rest of Hololive better. Thank you for your comment!

[@Zergonapal]

As a personal preference, I like royal purple more than magenta and I think RedJuice could have kept the hair that colour easily. With IRyS 1.0 I always thought the mouth seemed really stiff and perpetually grinning. But I dunno if it was the rigging around the mouth or a problem with the face tracking or some other issue. What I do know is the mouth is a lot more expressive in IRyS 2.0 and that tracks with the massive strides taken by riggers in the past year or so when it comes to making faces more alive and expressive. The model looks really good and I think it is gonna get her more fans who may have been put off by the appearance of IRyS 1.0.

[@YamAlbat]

Agreed. I hope the darker hair can be explored again in another outfit. Perhaps because this outfit is more on the angelic side, that's why her hair was brightened up. It would be a very neat detail if more of her demonic features and darker color palette made a return in another outfit. Knowing Redjuice's attention to detail, it might just happen! For now, I am just happy IRyS got the redesign she wanted, and more viewers will give her a chance. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

[@planguy9575]

I was surprised by how consistent Irys' face was between her versions, yet the character was very firmly made to adhere to the Hololive aesthetic. That was sorcery. I was one of the people who didn't like how Irys looked at first, but because she was so fun to watch those positive feelings transferred to her slightly wonky model. So, I was worried about the 2.0 version of her perhaps losing some Irys feeling. But she's still her. But an even better her. A really impressive artistic achievement.

[@MTGC888]

You forgot the enhanced physics of the tofu😂

[@YamAlbat]

You can thank Brian Tsui, the master tofu rigger for that enhancement 🤭

[@maverickhero5834]

Excellent work on the video. You analysis of Irys’ redesign make sense. I’ve been a member of hers about 3 months after her debut, Irys’ design never bothered me. What caught my interest was her humor, attitude and long gaming streams where she loves to chat about anything. I do like the new design and I’m glad Irys is very happy about it. Irys’s mood about her design has improved her mood in her most recent streams, she really deserves the love shes been getting. Thank you for the video, you earned my sub! ❤

[@YamAlbat]

Ah thank you so much for giving my channel a chance and subscribing! It means a lot to me! IRyS is truly a talented individual. She's one of hololive's best when it comes to language skill, singing, and of course, entertaining an audience! I didn't personally have much issue with the 1.0, I really think it just boiled down to Redjuice's inexperience with Live 2D. However, seeing how happy the 2.0 has made IRyS, I totally think the redesign was worth it. Her feelings are the ones that matter most here afterall!

[@bonkiru9818]

Impeccable analysis, also about redjuice they're really popular back then in my local art community. When I saw them being the mama for Irys it's nice to see them finally getting into vtuber model designs, like seeing "old friend" finally getting places. Also the criticism is understandable because one rarely nail something in the first time, that does happen to me too when I first tried Live2D. If sometime in the future I want to create vtuber models I would ask for some secondary input on it to see if it works before pressing the release button.

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah! Redjuice deserves the recognition! He's a very accomplished artist with a very cool style! Perhaps if the rigger and redjuice were able communicate during the illustration process, IRyS wouldn't have needed the 2.0. I hope hololive adjusts the model creation process to reflect some of the past issues when it comes to rig quality so that more artists are able to deliver the first time! Thank you for sharing!

[@Ihearvoicez]

You made some great points I hadn't considered when first seeing IRyS but I will say I am glad she is so much more expressive now it really seems like the lack of expression on her model was holding her back a lot in everything she does. Even now watching her model bob along with the songs just suits her so intuitively.

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah, that's one of the things I noticed with the 2.0 Immediately. The expressions suit her personality better too! Thank you for your comment!

[@FengLengshun]

It's kinda cool how it creates a fitting story to her kayfabe in that, despite how hard of a time it gave her, she still managed to rise above it and get accepted by the audience. Once again, the Hololive recruitment team is amazing. I'd thought that EN Myth would be a once in five years collection of rare talents, but they just keep finding all these amazing talents.

[@YamAlbat]

For real, the amount of amazing talents who audition for hololive and then eventually get picked is wild! P.S. Thank you for teaching me the term “kayfabe!” This will be a useful vocabulary for some of my future scripts! Thank you for the comment’

[@Dubbleslice]

With 1.0, I was mainly bothered by her chin and jaw. When she moved to the side, especially looking up, it was just felt off. I didn't even realize people were bothered by her nose. Her 2.0 is just so amazing.

[@YamAlbat]

From this comments section I’ve gathered that the uncanny valley look is caused by different parts for different people. For some people it’s the nose, for others it’s the eyes, and for others it’s the mouth. It’s interesting to see. Thank you for sharing your insight!

[@tanvoltz4623]

The new design is an absolute delight, it is new but doesn’t feel new at the same time, the transition is seamless. Great video btw keep up the good work. I quite enjoy these types of video essay

[@YamAlbat]

Agreed! Thank you for leaving a comment! I am glad redjuice was hired on again for the 2.0, otherwise it might’ve been more major of a change! He did a wonderful job updating her model~

[@GenevieveRoscoe]

I personally loved her old design and how she was different than the majority (and i personally just adore painterly styles!), BUT I do love her new design as well! Moreso, I'm very happy Iris can be happy and thrive now with a more updated model that has better physics! My only gripe I had with the old model is that the tracking was alittle wonky, as was mentioned in the video! the art wasn't really drawn with rigging in mind, so the face parameters weren't that great when moved left to right & vice versa. But in summary, I'm happy for Iris, I'm happy she's happy with an updated model! 🥰🙌🏻

[@YamAlbat]

Genevieve ✨💕 so nice to see you in my comments section! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I adore her 1.0 model too. In fact, it was difficult for me to be so critical of it in this video, but I wanted to represent the sentiments of the community as objectively as possible. What really matters is how IRyS feels about it, and seeing how happy she was about it made me know that the 2.0 redesign was the right way to go!

[@kalystagutierrez1607]

While her design is still more "complicated" compared to her other gen-mates it's much more streamlined so it's a more cohesive complication(it's moved on from knitting to crochet for a clearer reference). Overall she matches the rest of her friends while still standing out in terms of design(just look at them), which stops the uncanny effect and doesn't make her feel/look like an outside collab. Her marketability has also improved drastically, you could believably simplify the format of her character if need be and fans have clearer markers for when they create anything with her character. I've only watched this video once and I can still get a good idea of how she looks color/clothes/shape wise. Her color palette is white in the middle with darker purples/red on the bottom with lighter/brighter versions on top. Her dress has triangular edges(general puff underneath) with long sleeves and flowers on either side of her waist at different sizes. Her diamonds create a faux arrow that points towards her head and wings. she has long socks/stockings and a giant heart diamond at the center of her chest with puffy sleeves that have a mascot on on either side. Her hair is much easier to create too since they look like swirls even with their more musical design. Her silhouette is still very diamond shaped despite the changes which makes sense given her lore but that's probably more coincidence than anything. As much as people might disagree, this is objectively a better design not just for hololive but Irys herself since she's the one that pushed for this for so long/hard. I'm just glad she's happy with it and can get more involved with her hololive friends now.

[@YamAlbat]

Agreed, I have already seen some very cute chibis of the IRyS 2.0, which illustrate that the elements of this design can be simplified much more effectively than her 1.0. Thanks for your comment!

[@Homiloko2]

I saw Irys on her debut day and was instantly disappointed with the model. It was drawn by a legendary artist but it just didn't translate well into live2D. Good to know she got this epic redesign, it looks amazing. Also props to redjuice for being humble, learning from their mistakes, and delivering!

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah Redjuice is a wonderful artist and he really delivered to the brief! Thank you for commenting!

[@Homiloko2]

@@YamAlbat Great analysis from you as well, it was a blast to watch

[@EvilZod23]

This was a great watch, thank you so much! I really enjoyed the side by side comparison and speculation on the reasons and makings of the changes.

[@AstralArtsYT]

Redjuice was a HUGE inspiration to me as an artist when I was a kid (I was a giant vocaloid nerd back in the early 2000s) and seeing them design a VTuber is so cool. I love the 2.0 design, and I also really love the 1.0 design as well although it wasn't as well executed.

[@YamAlbat]

That’s wonderful to hear! I can’t believe I didn’t hear of Redjuice until IRyS was made! I learned about the “World Is Mine” cover by doing research for this video actually! Love his art style! Great source of inspiration! Thanks for sharing!

[@jaycornu3351]

i enjoy both of her designs, honestly to me the most important thing isn't if we are or the fans are happy it's if SHE is happy with it and i hope she is. I've been so busy with work lately i haven't been able to enjoy her content much lately but she seems happy still i hope.

[@YamAlbat]

All the streams I saw after her reveal have been happy! I feel like she feels better represented by her 2.0! Thanks for commenting!

[@sisco5153]

Great analysis. And I had no idea her hair was that music note 🎵 that's a super cool design idea since she is a V-Singer I would have never known. Also, I like how your videos are super detailed and informative, im not an atrist, but I learn so much from these amazing analysis videos. Thank you for making them.

[@YamAlbat]

I'm so glad that you enjoyed the video. I was so excited at the small detail of her hair shape too! It's a subtle way to embed her identity as a VSinger into the design! It warms my heart knowing that non artists appreciate my videos as well! Thank you for the comment!

[@SDFRiver]

Wow. I watched the reveal stream and her excitement and happiness were palatable. We're all so happy for IRyS! This deep dive into the redesign was extremely interesting to listen to and watch. You earned a sub. While I'm not an artist, I really enjoy the theories and thought processes behind designs. Drawing, painting, molding... many art mediums have been developed over thousands of years, so I'm thrilled to see Vtubing come into its own. Especially considering we're all able to communicate and collaborate using the Internet. Works like this video will contribute to Vtuber design's further development, and I'm very enthusiastic to see where this whole thing will go into the future.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for your kind words! I am glad to hear that even non-artists are interested in what goes on behind the scenes to create a VTuber model! VTuber design is a new medium and it's developing at lightning speed!

[@scoutisred6319]

Love these types of videos that go into detail behind the making of what is presented, real fun to watch and find out about things we didnt know

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for saying so! I love watching and making these types of videos as well!

[@luck_ystarz]

this was an amazing deep dive into Irys's new design !! I would love to see a series of these kinds of videos just explaining what goes into new / updated vtuber outfit designs ! I remember watching your video about vtuber designs and you mentioned Millie Parfait's design being a good example, so I wonder what you would make of her recent new outfit !

[@YamAlbat]

Yes! I know IRyS and Etheria outfits happens at the same time and I had to pick which one to cover because these videos take a lot of hours to edit. I’m thinking maybe I should start doing lower edited KZbin shorts to cover more VTubers! The Etheria outfits are worth talking about!

[@xMacieX]

Interesting. First I thought "why would they redesign her, possibly comissioning another artist? Irys 1.0 looked awesome but I figured the only reasons that could arise would come from a marketing/usage standpoint before clicking the video. Seeing how redjuice developed a design as a rework with all these details in mind improving their own creation as well is really impressive. You can literally see the dedication/commitment to their work as an artist.

[@YamAlbat]

I know right? I can see the hours of studying Live 2D and watching tutorial videos and practice in IRyS 2.0. Redjuice understood the brief perfectly! Thank you for your comment!

[@najdayo]

as a non-artist, it's interesting to hear about those struggles that came up with a model like in Irys' case I didn't even know about. also, your voice helped me calm down, so thanks for that!

[@echoesvtuber]

Thanks for sharing your video! I really enjoyed watching it. It was cool seeing how much an improvement the 2.0 is over the 1.0, as I remember feeling that the 1.0 version was off, but could not describe why. You were able to descibe pretty much what I had in mind perfectly! And hope that with her new model, IRyS can reach even greater heights than before. Looking forward to your upcoming model as well! Am interested in how it would like.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for watching and leaving a comment Echoes! I was in your same boat when irys debuted, I couldn’t exactly put it into words what was off. Im glad I was seemingly able to articulate it in this video! The real important thing is that IRyS seems happy with her new design, and she’s the one that really counts! I’ll be taking my sweet time on my own 2.0, because there’s still some things I want to improve on before I unveil it! Hope the update is worth the wait~

[@YamAlbat]

Be sure to support IRyS and Redjuice! They are both highly talented individuals! IRyS's Channel: www.youtube.com/@IRyS Redjuice's Twitter: twitter.com/shiru

[@Sweetlordv2]

Me & me friends love our precious Hope iRyS because of her nice personality & singing 🎹😇❤❄💎 we actually dont really care whatever bad things others says like her appearance, etc..

[@AexisRai]

12:20 It's spelled "brooch" but it's pronounced "broach". Some digging says the etymology turns out to be the same for both words: "broche", Old French noun for pointed weapon or implement, was borrowed into Middle English with that spelling for both that meaning and for the ornamental pin, later diverging spelling "broach"/"brooch" respectively (with same pronunciation) to distinguish those two meanings, with the former also getting used as a verb, initially literally "to pierce", later metaphorically "to introduce a subject" as if to pierce the conversation with your incoming new topic.

[@WD_Batora]

You put out this video so fast. Congratz, it really shows how passionate you feel about everything. Redjuiced has a blog and he shared his thoughts there along side additional character design sheets. He mentioned being very proud of his CUTE-styled characters a he took this job very seriously. One correction: Gloom and Bloom are mascots she made with Sana and her chat. Her fans don't have a representation yet other than the silly stick figure. And also, talents can get as involved as they want with the design. For the kimonos/dresses they all were able to request ideas, only Ina respected her papa too much to say a thing. The best part of 2.0 is how happy and unleashed IRyS felt on her recent streams. I hope they fix the concave depth effect her eyes take when she looks to the sides. Good luck on your 2.0

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for sharing that extra information about Redjuice! It makes me happy to know he’s proud of it!!! I’m glad talents have input in their alternate outfits, it makes them more personal to each of them! Thank you for your in depth insight!

[@Zan_Ch.]

Excellent assessment and very well thought out! I never noticed the change from a vertical to horizontal colour distribution. Very cool! Thank you for the video.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@g4wrr]

i just discovered your channel recently and i wanna say that this analysis video is so nice!!!! everything you explained made sense and i was really surprised how good of a point the "1.0 live 2d execution" chapter was!!!! great video, thank you! ❤

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed the video. I wanted to try to be as nuanced as possible with the 1.0 break down. Just calling something "ugly" or "unappealing" without explaining what might be the problem is what many people have done in the past when talking about IRyS's model, and really bugged me! I wanted to give Redjuice the respect he deserved and look at things from his perspective!

[@orangeapples]

A while back when discussion o IRyS 2.0 was happening one of the things I pointed out to people was that her model isn't squared but is at an angle. Her left (viewer's right) shoulder and hip are higher up. This made her Live 2.0 avatar move in a weird way that it doesn't look like she's quite right. That may have also contributed to the uncanny valley feel of her avatar. I personally wouldn't say I have a problem with her artstyle though I can see why people would find it distracting. Roberu of Holostars also exists in an art style that causes him to clash when doing collabs. IRyS 1.0 and Roberu both suffer of the same low resolution look when doing collabs. That didn't stop him from getting a 3D model. IRyS 2.0's model has her shoulders and hips squared to the camera. That immediately jumped out at me. IRyS 2.0 is more expressive and I think she's also happier from what I can hear in her voice. I do hope IRyS 2.0 gets a Dark Mode. She is supposed to be half angel and demon, so if this is her angel form, her demon form would have the black stars above in her halos and a largely black dress and not so shiny and bright.

[@YamAlbat]

Ohhh I see it now! thank you for adding your insight! I bet Brian Tsui's rigging helped with the expressiveness too! I hope we do get a demon dominant form to her as well! Wouldn't it be sooooo cool if she had a dark demon form for her kimono outfit?! I hope we get to see it someday!

[@liquid74]

I think the biggest issue with 1.0 was indeed the 3Dish high detail face rendering while the whole face moved like a single flat surface. It was shaded with depth but the movement broke the illusion.

[@YamAlbat]

I can see where you’re coming from! Thank you for your contribution to the conversation!

[@powderphysics]

This was super interesting and really well put together. Also, I though it was funny when you were talking about the bodice wings and how they're hard to see since that was the first time I'd ever noticed them

[@KonglomeratYT]

When I first saw Irys the appearance was definitely strange to me. Seeing the redesign I feel like I can watch her so much more easily. Something about the face of the original one made me uncomfortable. I didn't watch her at all until I started seeing the new model. It wasn't even a conscious decision. I started watching the new Irys version a few weeks ago. I only just realized there was a visual difference today, but I do believe my subconscious interest was defined heavily by the appearance. She feels more relatable and understandable now. It is really hard to put into words because I didn't even realize any of it until now. I just know that it affected my actions without me having any clue.

[@TheSeabornGaming]

I always liked her OG design, and I did feel bad with the way people were so harsh about. I’m glad she got her new design, it looks really good.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for adding your thoughts! I agree with you!

[@GaryRocksGaming]

1st time I saw her I didn't like her 1st model much, but later I grew to love her 1st models very much and miss her

[@YamAlbat]

I think that is a common sentiment among her fans. I think people's view of her softened after watching her for a while, and her 1.0 became endearing to her fans overtime. I'm sure everyone will get used to her 2.0 the same way! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

[@GaryRocksGaming]

@@YamAlbat Thank you for the amazing video about IRyS designer and her 1.0 lore

[@austinjackson5724]

As someone who routinely doesn't have the energy to watch longform content and thus also doesn't usually experience the full context of these kinds of developments, this was a very helpful and informative video. It also helped me to articulate my own personal misgivings about IRyS 1.0's design, as I agree that the way it was designed was not tailored to the medium it was planned to be used for. A point that wasn't specifically said in this video, but was somewhat alluded to, that came to my mind is that one of the biggest issues with the model in relation to its usage for Live-2D was that its level of complexity caused there to be less overall motion possible in the model's rigging, causing it to look rigid and stiff. One of the highlights that makes Live-2D such an impressive medium is the ability to make 2D artwork move in such a way that it gives the illusion of 3D or 2.5D motion, and it seems that the truest extent of this might be the context that Redjuice was lacking while creating the 1.0 design. I also agree that the amount of variation in all aspects of the 1.0 design made it difficult for any of the details to stand out against each other, making it difficult to know where to look. Put more simply, it lacked obvious focal points and guiding lines. While I also really liked the darker palette of 1.0 to set her apart from other Hololive members, the lighter palette of 2.0 definitely seems to match her personality more (based on reports from other Holo members discussing their recent off-colab) and you can definitely tell that Redjuice learned a lot about this medium through this experience and applied those lessons to the 2.0 model. Hoping you don't mind the unsolicited tangent here, but I also have some points to suggest for the future of your own model since you mentioned wanting to revisit its design, and I hope I can word things in a constructive way that could be helpful ^-^ I know that looking into this stuff about another model doesn't always translate in a person's brain when they look at their own work, and being able to help you do that is what I hope to achieve with this. Of course, if you've already done your work on your model and are satisfied with the result (I realize this video is a month+ old), feel free to completely disregard the rest of this comment ^-^ For what I've just seen of your model in this video (the first vid of yours I've seen ngl), I can see a similar level of rigidness that I saw in IRyS 1.0, namely in the hair and facial features. Your hair would benefit from more variety of shading & texture to give it a stronger sense of depth. I get that the design leans towards a more simple palette and bleach-blonde hair is certainly very bright, but when the outfit of the model has more shading overall than the hair then the elements tend to clash in an undesired way, and the same could be said about the shading on your face. It's also very difficult to distinguish the base color of the hair from the highlight, to a level where the highlight streaking across the front is very difficult to notice. It all gives the appearance that the base model and the outfit were modeled separately with different shaders altogether, and were not intended to be used together in the same setting, which could be true for all I know but it generally shouldn't be obvious if the outfit is something intended to be used regularly. Another note on the hair is that it doesn't feel like it has any weight to it, which I understand is more on the rigging side and I don't know if you rigged your model yourself or had someone else do it, but it's regardless something to keep in mind moving forward. To clarify, when I say it doesn't have weight I don't necessarily mean that it has to look heavy or weighted down; I understand that some people genuinely have hair with so much volume that it looks like puffy clouds (my own hair gets really puffy too if I don't manage it). What I'm referring to is more its range of motion; while this is a common thing among vtuber models, it's also an element of real life that I feel is really what influences the application in Live-2D models, and that is that people's hair moves around a lot, sometimes even from the simplest motions. Even when it doesn't make large, exaggerated motions, it still sorta pulls and stretches with the movement of your head. Your model doesn't have much of that range of motion in the hair, which contributes to the sensation of it looking flat. Sure your more reserved body motions might be a factor, and in no way am I telling you that you need to change that and be more expressive because you already are expressive enough simply through your vocal tone and manner of speech, but the bigger factor is just in the way that the hair follows your movement; rather than feeling like it's rotating with your head three-dimensionally, it looks more like your rotating a 2D plane in 3D space and just looking at it from different angles. A possible way to alleviate this might be to make the middle and end portions of the hair slightly less poofy at the bottom and to have a higher relative range and speed of motion, but that's just an untested theory and might not work for you. I think the most important element here is to reduce how much it reaches out when you reveal one side and increase how much it hides when you hide the other. My only other main advice is to make your nose more visually distinct. What I mean by this is that while yes it is visible and noticeably larger than the common style presents, it is difficult to visualize its shape in 3D. Because your body language is more reserved, there isn't much opportunity to see even a partial profile of your face, which makes the overall shape more difficult to make out as the model is presented in this video. This is actually a case where more complex shading on the nose similar to what Redjuice did for IRyS 1.0, or even just some additional shape lines or shadows, would be a powerful tool to help sculpt the intended shape of your face and nose. Overall I do like the overall design of your model as it's very cute and has its own form of uniqueness. This is merely an attempt to help you enhance it further as you continue progressing, and I hope it finds you well.

[@ShadowWulfGaming]

Thank you for making this, as a content creator, and self-created VTuber, this helps me out with making considerations for how I'd want to convert my model from VRoid to Live 2D and what to take note of and how to match the changes This helps clear the clouds of the mountain I've got ahead of me and what I need to learn with my works

[@YamAlbat]

Redjuice's work definitely helped me study for my own 2.0! I'm glad I was able to break it down in a way that inspires you for your own 2.0. Best of luck with the Live 2D version!

[@tuliomesquita1294]

Not going to lie, but I cried when she fully revealed herself, manly tears of course.. it's not everyday that you can feel your oshi's happiness trough her voice, but her new design makes you feel energetic too, it's gorgeous. I liked your breakdown too

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for watching! SHe was so happy at the reveal! I almost cried too, and I am not even a regular viewer!

[@Sanadachi]

Great video, you bring up points and details I had previously missed. Very interesting. Personally, I like both the 1.0 and 2.0 model, and to some degree, I’ll miss the original. But every time I see IRyS new design in action, how much more lively and expressive she is, I can’t help but to smile.

[@YamAlbat]

My thoughts exactly! thank you for adding your thoughts!

[@IsabelleAmponin]

after watching a few of your videos, i just had to subscribe! i'm not in the vtuber sphere but your insight is just so entertaining, thorough, and charming. as an artist myself, i really appreciate your eye for detail. i look forward seeing your future content!

[@StormierNik]

This was such a nice recap of all of this. I had always found her original model to feel off to me, and hadn't fully noticed the flat plane effect that it caused in its rigging. I never noticed how much of it was cluttered and lacked visual clarity either. And by the time i looked at the hair again from the back later on in the video, that immediately made me imagine some artists seeing that and going "Nope I'm not gonna try drawing that hair." She really does look like she fits into a Jrpg with the original though. But a in all, it's definitely a fantastic upgrade. For it to go with some lore makes it fit into place that much more too. Very happy for her.

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah, I’ve never seen a more fitting model redesign in the history of being a fan of VTubers. The clarity and rigging upgrades as well as tying it into the lore was done so well! And you’re right, the 1.0 would do amazing in a JRPG. Thanks for your comment!

[@Panster7]

I'm so glad they stick with Redjuice for the 2.0. I was lowkey worried they would get a new artist all together Also... S-Tier Tofu TSKR Redjuice papa

[@YamAlbat]

Me too! If they went with another artist I would’ve been sad. How awkward would it be too, because redjuice is the original designer and just wouldn’t be credited as the current papa anymore 😭 We can thank Brian Tsui’s rigging skills for the S-Tier tofu 🤭

[@Zack_Strife47]

Suddenly appears in my recommendation. Ended up watching till the very end. what a great analysis. Subscribers +1 from me. And actually im one of many people that like the 1.0 model because its kinda unique. But the 2.0 is pretty good too. Its getting simplified, but in a good way 👍

[@YamAlbat]

Ah thank you so much for giving my video a chance and subscribing! I'm in your same boat, I think the 1.0 is super unique, but the 2.0 will be better for what IRyS wants to do in the future!

[@ozyssah]

This was a really interesting and good vid, you went more in depth than most ppl I've seen talking about what they thought of 1.0. I always loved the wings on irys sides, but agree they were very easy to miss, overall I like the redesign more, but 1.0 will probably still be the image in my head when thinking of irys bc of how unique it was

[@KuronoGomiCh]

Yam your doing amazing! i love these videos! Great insight!

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you so much Gomi! Love what you do too!

[@MikaMikaWhatever]

You were right when saying the 1.0 design is really good for a still artwork. But putting said artwork into motion, it just feels off. I love IRyS and her I enjoy streams but I gotta admit that I really didn't like her old design, because of how awkward and uncanny it was. And based on how excited and super happy she was with IRyS 2.0, it's safe to assume she didn't love the old one as well. It could be why Cover probably pushed for a new look. Her papa did deliver and perfected the theme and appearance with IRyS 2.0. My only problem was people pretending that the 1.0 model had no issues whatsoever. That's just a big cope imo; IRyS knew it, Cover knew it, Redjuice knew it, that's why the redesign happened

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah! I heard some people saying that the 1.0 is “ugly,” and it just isn’t the case. It’s a wonderful illustration, just like all the characters redjuice has designed! I know a lot of people had an issue with the 1.0, but redjuice nailed the hololive aesthetic with the 2.0, and Brian Tsui did a wonderful job rigging! so I don’t think that’ll be a problem anymore!

[@jerd8797]

Super good analysis! while I loved the 1.0 I can definitely understand a lot of the points brought up, and can really tell it comes from a place of love! One thing i'll mention is that it was brought up that with 2.0 she is able to hide her wings and halo, that was actually possible with 1.0 as well, it just didn't really get brought up much lol. That aside, always appreciate more love for IRyS and Redjuice in the world. Great video!

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for commenting. This video was truly coming from a place of love, I've always loved IRyS! I am not a huge stream watcher unfortunately, but her music is a mainstay of my playlist, and I will never forget her iconic debut! And thank you for clarifying on the wings and halo. I didn't notice them to be toggles of the first model! I hope this 2.0 means more attention for IRyS because she deserves every fan she gets! I'm also glad Redjuice was redeemed in the eyes of the fans because he is such a talented artist!

[@xenorayy]

Her 1.0 design was my favourite in Hololive ever since I saw it at her debut, Redjuice draws beautifully and the color scheme is really nice. I still like the 2.0 but I do overall prefer the more detailed and darker colored model.

[@SelecaoOfMidas]

An excellent breakdown of both designs and highlighting redjuice's overall style, and the changes he made to fit the particular aesthetics seen in hololive models. I will say though, the opportunity to have made IRyS 1.0 a 3D model would have been a modelling magnum opus for the people who do their work at Cover. That design would may have been great in that form, even if it really shines as still illustrations. I love the 2.0 design for the transformation that it represents for IRyS, and you make a good point about it fitting into her lore, even if that wasn't an idea in mind with the redesign. Also, the choice of having Brian Tsui do the Live2D rigging accentuated a lot of design cues, and makes her more expressive. Also, first time having heard of you thanks to the KZbin recommends. Gladly subbed. 👍🏾

[@YamAlbat]

For real, if hololive would’ve gone for it and commissioned the IRyS 1.0 in a 3D model, it would’ve been amazing to behold if the artist could nail it. There’s also the possibility that the artist couldn’t get the 3D to be believably accurate enough to IRys though. Brian Tsui was a good choice for the 2D rigger too! Hey thanks for giving my video and channel a chance!

[@angelsevilla3708]

New is great but I am going to miss the darker 1.0 color palette dearly. The new one is very saturated and less angular which was precisely what I liked about 1.0. This wont stop me from being fan tho Great Vid

[@YamAlbat]

I agree, the new color palette is very saturated and bright. I hope her darker color palette may make a return in an alternate outfit, maybe her kimono will be more demon themed!

[@PipkinPippa]

The redesign is so beautiful ;;

[@YamAlbat]

It really is! Redjuice papa did a wonderful job! Thank you for checking out my video, Pippa! I like your channel!

[@O-EGames]

I love IRyS 1.0! I wish I had known about her sooner, she looks so pretty and I like her older version more 💀

[@evanlakey6904]

This was very cool. I think its a very well done in depth look at the power of a process in art.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for the kind comment! I am trying to improve at design analysis with every video entry!

[@TheLalacream]

My only issue that I had when I first started watching Irys was the shading/blushing around the nose. Everything else I loved immediately but the nose gave uncanny vibes

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah, even the 1.0 is a very impressive design! Redjuice is a very talented character designer. He just needed to adapt his art style to the preferred aesthetics of hololive fans. Had IRyS been a design for an indie VTuber, I think the 2.0 would have gone a bit differently!

[@omitomoo]

All in all, I hope that with this new design, she's able to get more out of all the things she's been missing out on because of the old design.. such as FINALLY getting a 3D model, more casual outfits and her 'lost' New Years Kimono. It was sad to see every other talent be able to get something new, but IRyS being left out because of all the complications with the rigging/design. I do think Cover needs to be aware and careful of the artists they hire to make models, and if it will be marketable to the greater audience. No offense to RedJuice as he was new to VTuber models, but they should really stick with people that have had experience and know the in's and out's of what makes a model look good for movement the FIRST time around. So many people didn't give her a chance at first till now because the 1.0 threw them off, and it would suck for that to happen to another new talent who gets stuck with a model/rig that turned people away right on debut day.

[@YamAlbat]

Thanks for commenting on my video as always! I look foward to what you have to say with each entry! Yeah, that's the real thing to look forward to after this redesign: 3D model and new outfits! I always felt bad for IRyS when HoloMyth would get yet another outfit, and her Kouhais at council got their kimonos before her. I think in the long run, it'll be worth the wait. Now she has a design she's truly happy with! I agree with you. I think the way cover hires artists is a bit outdated. Once upon a time, Live 2D artists were uncommon, but nowadays, there's so many specialists in Live 2D to choose from! I have a script on the backburner about this...

[@omitomoo]

@@YamAlbat I would love to see a video on your thoughts on this honestly! The take in this video was spot on and from what I see helped people realize WHY the 1.0 was in need of an update outside of “it’s uncanny”. I think Hololive targets popular/well-known industry artists only to hire, and to me that’s just silly. Imagine seeing Froot or 2wintails as a model artist for them, I feel it would help the community feel more close(?) with Hololive and that talent using the model, yaknow.. 🤔

[@GOKUDO369]

This is the first Video ive seen from your Channel and i am simply amazed! Everything is Top Notch! The Structure, the Narration, the Pacing, the Graphics used aswell as your in-depth but simply explained insights into what influences the Design were to such an extend that i was expecting you to have a Million Subs 😅 I hope you reach this Milestone one day and wish you great Success with your V-Tubing endevours 😁👍

[@YamAlbat]

Ahhh wow! Thank you for the flattering comment! I’m still new to videos, so I try to improve in each aspect with every entry. Thank you for noticing my hard work, and taking the time to leave a lovely comment!

[@jjlol6113]

this was such a nice video to watch! as an artist myself, i thoroughly enjoyed going deeper into irys' design and you did a great job!

[@YamAlbat]

Glad you enjoyed it! It's really fun analyzing character design through an artist lens!

[@morizen-]

(honestly i’m not too well versed on the hololive en girls so my take may be fully off) But her 1.0 design came off in a “darker” more “matte” way. Which is why her silhouette and thumbnails were sorta “blurry.” The brightness and unique design accompanied alongside the simple yet complex design perfectly suits her lore and her. The horizontal color split is also quite satisfying considering the fact that it fits her angel-demon contradicting each other, as (like you said) it did in a vertical format in 1.0. I loved the video and ngl i have never seen u b4 but this was hella pretty and very clear. 100/10 🤌🏻✨

[@YamAlbat]

WOW thank you so much for all the compliments. Yeah, the angelic progression of her design really surprised me and made me excited to get this video out. I think the design will make IRyS gain even more fans than ever before! I'm glad you enjoyed the video, I'm still new to making them!

[@morizen-]

@@YamAlbat 👍🏻 keep up the good work! :D

[@Bob-bw2lv]

At first it's suprising that Irys has different style of design from any member it's very rare to see that kind of design as she's a new generation

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah I was very surprised at the 2.0 reveal too! Thanks for your comment!

[@CyberAlter]

Amazing! Love the evolution and comparison, very well explained and informative. Also, I like the detailed noses.

[@YamAlbat]

Thank you for the comment, as always! Detailed and large noses for the win! But, I'm still glad IRyS got the redesign she wanted in the end!

[@crafteariee]

Thank you so much for this design breakdown! I adore redjuice's art style and was saddened but understood at first the initial mixed feelings people had with Irys's debut design as in motion it felt instinctively "off" perhaps due to how the painterly rendering would warp strangely in 3D space motion. As an artist with a love for all sorts of character design, I very much agree with the "designing for clarity" ethos behind her 2.0 design. This makes me so happy to see, I've been taking notes to learn from in case some day I learn to design characters for vTuber rigging!

[@Sweetlordv2]

Me & me friends love our precious Hope iRyS because of her nice personality & singing 🎹😇❤❄💎 we actually dont really care whatever bad things others says like her appearance, etc..

[@YamAlbat]

Those are the best type of fans! Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

[@todkapuz]

Generally agree that she needed the transformation to be more a part of the whole group in a seamless way. I still am kinda partial to the 1.0, mostly because I rejoiced at something different than everywhere else, and I saw her as being AZKi's english side... (AZKi while in INNK was not as Hololive like as well). And while it would have been a bit of an expensive 3D, I really thought that was something they wanted to pursue to bring v-singer more to a larger audience, where likely the more realistic appearance would be more appealing. That said, and honestly I never thought when she was announced, especially with the "v-singer" monogram, that she would actually stream that much (much like AZKi), instead being more of the paid star that AZKi was under INNK. Honestly if anything that is what didn't really find me attracted to the whole idea in the end... she wasn't the English side of V-singing really... and fell back into the typical hololive rut but yes with, in my mind, a very nice model. Not to say that Irys isnt talented or interesting, of course.. she is pretty amazing. But yeah... I do think I've found a bit more appreciation for some of the 2.0 changes from your view though. But yeah, I ... kinda want something over than cute moe blob .... but yeah.... that is.. like.. most of v-tubers these days it seems.

[@YamAlbat]

Yeah, trading originality for fitting in with the group is a bit sad, but a necessary change. And I think you're right, her 1.0 was more original because the role of the EN Vsinger was more like AZKi than Hololive Myth. IRyS chose for herself to assimilate into the regular hololive gens similar to Suisei, and now IRyS has a look that reflects that decision. Excellent insight. I never thought of it that way! Indie Vtubers are a better place to look for unique art styles and more general diversity. They are harder to discover due to the lasck of pro advertising and recognizably, and don't have as much time to make content as agencies, but you can find some truly unique models and ideas out there! Thank you for your comment!

[@kingjulian1202]

that was a really nice breakdown of the changes and improvements that wouldn't have been noticed with just watching her rarely like I do, but it definitely grew the appreciation of her new model

[@elsenordesayuno6942]

Thank you for the analysis (or I should say anAyrisis), it has been very interesting and I've learned a lot of things about character design. Good job!