yeah, that's not airing again

The music alone would be so expensive it'd bankrupt whoever touches it. This anime has a 20 minute intro. It's literally an MTV music video in anime form. No seriously, when does the anime start? This intro has been going on for like 20 minutes. Wait, this IS the anime? This? This is it? This is as close to a perfect anime as you can possibly get. It's like MTV was injected straight into my veins. Quite possible the most 80's thing ever produced. Yes, even more 80's than California crisis & Akira.
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The story of Cipher is set in mid-1980s America, mainly New York City. It concerns the lives of former child stars twins Siva (Jake Rang) and Cipher (Roy Rang), who mysteriously began to trade places until the two became synonymous with each other. Anise Murphy is a classmate of Siva's, and shortly after becoming acquainted with him ends up entangled in a bet to see if she can tell the two apart after living at their apartment for two weeks.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

There's ZERO chance this will ever be re-released, so here it is on youtube. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d33Sh2eedtaiZ5o

[@jonathanfranco8547]

Crazy how you posted this just now lol

[@nickmiroli]

Thanks. This is unironically in my top 10 animes.

[@cryptogenik]

You mean - Phil Collin's Covers? Who is actually singing cause that's not phil collins.... *Shazam found it - It's a cover by "Dale & Julie Ember with the Flames"

[@holdencolfield6676]

good thing you covered it, i think shojo is nauseating anyways, but at least i know it would still suck.

[@lorrainebrunner2490]

XD This is now *(ONE)* of my favorite animes!

[@noirtreize2713]

“They aren’t gay” That was such a plot twist from anime with no plot.

[@labenvenci1584]

They aren't! Cipher and Siva are just comforable doing that for some reason. I guess it's sorta a maternial thing. They even stated angrily that they are not to Aniese, the girl they are both somewhat in love with.

[@mslightbulb]

Wait, but what about the ending? Are they European or something???

[@Grgrqr]

Laben_ Venci apparently the maker of the shows thought it was normal for Americans to do that

[@grant8164]

He's not gay! He's european

[@Raylightsen]

@@labenvenci1584 Ok. Still is gay.

[@CCootauco]

Ah the American tradition of kissing your twin brother before a breakfast of American yogurt and iced cream.

[@kkaassist]

sweet home alabama

[@anvi7572]

Yeah... *YAH*

[@harrisonlee9585]

The breakfast of West Virginia champions

[@randomperson6176]

Why does that make me think of boku no pico wtf

[@chelseaoocandy]

And peanut butter

[@Deva7]

They're seriously not gay... the Japanese creators just thought Americans always kiss each other whenever they meet, so... yeah.

[@papercotton]

Yea, I bet they confused European family kissing to thinking Americans did that too (probably due to immigration).

[@FangzV]

Actually, it's just a thing between those two brother. Every other character in the manga thinks it's weird.

[@_V.Va_]

You gotta remember how gay Japan is without being gay.

[@TheBunnygirl20]

Lmao

[@venyuu8029]

@@papercotton yes but even so in europe you kiss your family members on the cheek and not on the lips lmao japanese are weird

[@ZuperNEZ]

"They're not gay." Can't two bros share the same bed and kiss without having romantic feelings for each other?... I think I need a talk with my bro.

[@amegardenia8296]

So, what's his reaction?

[@Melodyofthesea78]

@@amegardenia8296 He's probably screaming for help. XD

[@whatblank4157]

@@amegardenia8296 he'll punch you in the face

[@Raylightsen]

@@whatblank4157 Like a real man should.

[@thehermit8618]

I mean....they're literal twins. If they were gay and had feelings for eachother it would be its own tier of fucked up

[@conyo985]

This anime is so 80s I'm seeing purple lights and hearing synth waves

[@kennylauderdale_en]

I like California crisis more because reasons, but this is clearly the most 80's anime that exists. I don't think it would be possible to be more 80's without thriller added to the soundtrack.,

[@MilkPlus]

Too bad retrowave =/= real 80s

[@RoseTintedPath]

I read this as hearing purple lights and seeing synth waves

[@misaeltoral508]

Distressed Damn, I was going to say the same thing. Lol

[@dirtypure2023]

nothin better than a good synth wave

[@salj.5459]

When the guy wakes up and kisses his twin he says “Jay”, which is the name of the VA, instead of Cypher/Shiva.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

HA!

[@CutieRingoJoy]

they did not even try to do a retake like lol

[@stefpal2127]

HA!

[@JustAPolishAmerican]

HA!

[@yuki97kira]

Cypher or shiva is their stage name..one of the twins' real name is jake..so he probably said jake

[@victoryb.5437]

The reason behind them kissing is actually talked about by the end of the manga where *[SPOILER]* even they admit they didn't know why they started doing it other than the fact that they were "forcing" their brotherly affection to cover up the fact they both had unresolved animosity and anger towards one another that they couldn't reveal. After being separated from each other for awhile and opening up about these dark feelings after they reunited, their relationship became a lot more "genuine" and they stopped kissing.

[@damgedroses]

Now that's some fascinating stuff to follow up "they ain't gay"

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

So, the couple equivalent of an unresolved argument but you continue to play nice to try to remain amicable but the anger is still stewing...but with brothers. I laugh, since I now know the creator thought Americans did this, but I am desperately curious to know where she got her research! Then again...even with the advent of the internet, my teenage self fifteen years ago just thought English was spoken all over the world and of course they spoke it in Japan! America is the richest country and countries all want to do business with us, thus they learn English to do so, that's why English is so popular! And then I was slapped in the face when I found out that not only was English not spoken there (nor in most countries of the world), they don't even use the same alphabet! And they have three writing systems! My dreams of possibly living in Japan died that moment but it's good I got the wakeup call when I did. I would've been an absolute weaboo, with only my viewing of anime (at the time, starting with Americanized 4Kids shows and ending with fuedal-era Inuyasha) and a copy of "Memoirs of a Geisha" to go by; a very depressing sight indeed.

[@Statusinator]

"I hate you, bro!" "Bro, I hate you too!" "..." "We should kiss." "Yeah..." "Yah!"

[@victoryb.5437]

​@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley ​ EDIT: SORRY, just read the rest of your comment, it was cut off on my phone. Actually, no the author didn't think that Americans did this. Only one character in the manga ever sees them kiss and it's made clear that she thinks it's odd. Even she's confused by it. The author herself actually travelled frequently to NY and knew a lot about American culture. A lot of the pictures and characters are based on actual celebrities during that time or things she saw during her travels there. Old Comment: Yeah exactly. But this was literally years of unresolved issues between them developing since they were kids. Emotions they couldn't identify or really admit to themselves until a traumatic event separated them and they had to be honest with themselves about who they were as individuals and not as "twins". It taught them how to connect with people and each other in a more authentic way.

[@shahani6037]

Lmao

[@kekero540]

I feel like the creator of the manga just got enough money together to make this project because she wanted to watch it herself

[@kennylauderdale_en]

why not. They had the money & nobody said no.

[@candlelitpeppermintcarniva8509]

I sure hope she did!! That's the dream, man!

[@_aWiseMan]

I wish just some really rich person like really really rich, just decided to make an entire 4 season masterpiece wirh a near unlimited budget . Like the most unique soundtrack ever with atleast two songs for each main character and antagonist and the best fights ever, the most well written characterswith a villain who you genuinelyfeel sorry for and understand despite how many bad things they do, and quality sound and voice acting in every language its put in with the perfect most emotional acting in every scene. For no reason other than they wanted to see it made. We need more people like that

[@PembePembe]

@@_aWiseMan 👎 make some of the main characters green for some reason but never explain it

[@concept5631]

@@_aWiseMan Perfect.

[@eldavid8774]

They might kiss each other but they said no homo after sooo its not gay

[@renatabravo5474]

no chromo

[@destynova693]

No Chrome

[@runeanonymous9760]

Incest bi

[@Doomroar]

It is still incestuous, so there's that for you kink beast out there.

[@soko4710]

I think that they decided to stop doing it near the end of the manga

[@barry-allenthe-flash8396]

_"Cipher says: Let's take a bunch of clips, from a manga nobody has read, make a bunch of fake interviews-- "_ Well, no one will want to watch this! _"And set all of that to _*_Phil Collins'_*_ music"_ Oh, now we have an anime!

[@danielsjohnson]

"set it to interviews" isn't that how Strictly Ballroom started?

[@greshzuki8234]

Except for calling them _fake_ interviews , love the summary. LOL

[@Blackberryfae]

I read the manga and it's sequel

[@ClayDress]

It's not Phil Collins, though. It's Kenny Loggins. He fucked up.

[@JoeOvercoat]

@@ClayDress just a very slight difference there. 😂

[@Anonarchist]

Having been born and raised in Brooklyn in the 80s, I can confirm, we have exactly zero palm trees.

[@Whatlander]

America has three states: California, Cowboy, and New York City. Sometimes it's all three at once!

[@Blinde2.0_666]

@@Whatlander cowboy?

[@prettyrat.]

@@Blinde2.0_666 Cowboy!

[@GameboyFanatic]

@@Whatlander Hey what about Ford In a? You know the one with the Maiemee city?

[@yanstein8464]

"i don't know why they're kissing" that's called fanservice kenny

[@totallynoteverything1.]

it's definitely pleasing the fans, for some fucked up reason, which I won't get into for legal reasons

[@yanstein8464]

@@arly380 i mean, some do like twincest hahaha thanks, ouran...

[@johnfreeman9349]

apparently there's a legit story reason for it but that is absolutely the real reason lol

[@InsaneGold]

"Yeahh" *"JAH"*

[@_V.Va_]

*_y a h_*

[@hatsuinu6232]

Ja... that's German for yes... I know... I'm kinda cool ;}

[@GLIEPNIR]

Kind of fun when you can "hear" a written comment...

[@crimsondynamo615]

**splices that clip from resident evil with enrico** “Yeah!”

[@scavorthespacecowboy2096]

@@hatsuinu6232 and spanish

[@computerafterlife]

this is the most A E S T H E T I C experience ever. i want to own the vhs or manga now bc i love the art style.

[@doubleh333lix]

Ikr???? It’s looks like my old vaporwave tumblr in a nutshell.

[@TheSlipperyNUwUdle]

Watch Kodocha. It has a cute and heart breaking story.

[@dearvermin]

@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle oh my gosh I love that anime even though I was born in the 2000’s it was my childhood but rewatching it I realise that it’s actually quite a sad story

[@TheSlipperyNUwUdle]

@@dearvermin yeah, and the dub is actually really good for the early 2000s!

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@doubleh333lix I think cause a lot of vaporwave was inspired by 80’s - 90’s stuff, including anime

[@towelgirl21]

"Yay." --- Nora, 1985 "Yeah." --- guys in Cipher, 1989

[@sheesh5344]

Even though this anime is questionable can we at least talk about the art style? It's actually really nice. If they did an anime in this style lineart and today's way of coloring anime I think it would be interesting.

[@Ray-tf5wu]

I'd so watch it

[@TrueNeutralEvGenius]

Questionable? QUESTIONABLE?! Damn stupid newfags. Any oldfag know, that "Cipher" is the most perfect anime, the only 10/10 in the universe. I remember how I watched it in the late 2000s and was astonished. Impressive. Very nice.

[@MariamArt_]

That’s why 80s, 90s, and 2000s Japanese anime is superior to 2020s anime

[@duchi882]

*Basically* The most 80s American Japanese Animation with Quality English dub _Interesting_

[@kennylauderdale_en]

It's pretty one of a kind isn't it? Shame they can't re release it for obvious reasons.

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

@@kennylauderdale_en Kind of sad. I'm surprised the original licenses wouldn't still apply if no changes to the masters were made.

[@Shin_Lona]

All English dub should be Japanese people speaking Engrish.

[@janeflame7308]

@@Shin_Lonathat would be terrible

[@lost_spacebunny2769]

@@Shin_Lona why tho

[@Ash113Lynx]

I was at a convention last month. My friend and I dug through the Laserdiscs that were for sale at one booth, just for giggles. And what do we unearth there? CIPHER THE VIDEO! Yeah, I bought that thing, it was only $15. No, I do not have a Laserdisc player. It was, as my friend said, "the most 80s anime ever on the most 80s format ever". She also said that knowing her house, there's probably a Laserdisc player hooked up somewhere. Even having read the complete manga, you'll be happy to know that I STILL couldn't follow along with this thing at all. And it is a good manga, it's worth finishing, imo (it kind of gradually drifts away from Anise to it being a character study on the twins). And every single side bar Minako Narita writes is just so hardcore 80s. Step aside, Stranger Things, you will never be this 80s.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

I would like to purchase your copy of cipher the video, but I know you won't get rid of it.

[@KhayJayArt]

Cipher s on KZbin kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6a4aYyXd9albac

[@mintybin]

Ash113Lynx true 80s treasure

[@FangzV]

I've never been more jealous of a youtube comment. Congrats on the find.

[@Ash113Lynx]

@@kennylauderdale_en true, but if it's just to show it off on stream, I wouldn't mind loaning it ;)

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

"Yeah." *"YAH."* And I will say this about the creator. She had her vision and she fought for it. She wanted things to be authentic as possible to depicted the United States right down making sure everyone spoke English. I'm not surprised if one of her original plans was to have it animated and designed to appear more like a Western comic or animated movie if she wanted to go that far.

[@persephonepomegranate9652]

"they aint gay" Then wtf are those stares that they give to each other

[@totallynoteverything1.]

that's true bromance over there

[@erenyeagerist7681]

They're not gay. Cipher has a girlfriend named Anise Murphy while Siva is in love with Dana Jackson but unfortunately she died.

[@buddy.ymotard]

The Yaranaika stare.

[@icantchooseamaindps6322]

what's wrong with brotherly love

[@spaghetti_dm]

"Also they're not gay" My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[@JosephM]

Same

[@_V.Va_]

What are you talking about? That's one of the most epic plot twists in anime!

[@alkatraz706]

Those guys upstairs did jot get the review brah reference 😆

[@_V.Va_]

@@alkatraz706 Everyone got it.

[@IR-Fan]

Ayyy... 666 likes

[@kos2919]

Minako Narita is a well known 80s mangaka who was well known for her romanticised version of USA. She always depict USA especially new York and Los Angeles where she depicted those cities as vibrant city full of hip youth doing hip 80s stuff. She loves adding stuff like how diverse and exotic the city is. Also I noticed that many of her main character in her Manga is awkward Japanese girl thrusted into wild western lifestyle and catch the eye of handsome androgynous main male character that's considered the prettiest at the university or school and attract both female and male. The story tend to linger around doing nothing before they sped up the story near the end.

[@valhatan3907]

So it's basically a _"weeb"_ but, instead to America. I should see that coming.

[@ericktellez7632]

“Diverse” everyone in those series where white as hell, LA, but no latinos or blacks in sight

[@MRAxel1900]

I wanna see her despiction of Sudamérica.

[@komos3719]

Ameriboo stuff aside, that's kind of how most shoujo works lol

[@ZetroFox9274]

@@valhatan3907 there's a lot of people in Japan that have a weirdly romanticized view on what America is.

[@FavianTubeX]

Just want to clarify that Leiji Matsumoto just didn't randomly decide to drop in Daft Punk's music. Daft Punk commissioned the production of the film and paid the costs out of their own pocket, motivated by their love of Leiji's work in the 70s & 80s.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

It was just an example. Sorry if you took issue with, this wasn't suppose to be a history video, just a weird look at a strange anime.

[@FavianTubeX]

@@kennylauderdale_en no the video is great, I didn't take issue with it, I just wanted to clarify for anyone watching that Interstella 5555 was an actual collaborative film and not something Leiji made and then shoehorned Daft Punk into .. but other than that I loved the video and am looking for Cipher now. This seems like Tommy Wiseau levels of absurdity

[@allyrat]

I recently finished the Cypher manga and it's actually really good. I'd highly recommend it. As for why it had so much footage of the twin towners, it's because the twins are constantly compared to them (as in one can't stand without the other). Which is also why I believe the manga has never and will never receive any kind of re release or modern anime adaptation. I can't believe 9/11 resulted in no modern reprints of such a great manga.

[@a-s-greig]

So, in a timeline where 2001 wasn't known for impractical demolition methods, we might _maybe_ have had a re-release of this?

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

@@a-s-greig There is a lot of knock-on effects that would happen had that event not happened...

[@a-s-greig]

@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 I'm still blaming Franz Ferdinand.

[@DiamondsRexpensive]

In a world that isn't so snowflakey, it would get a re-release.

[@AGrayPhantom]

What a strange, experimental anime. I can't help but to respect it for being so... avant-garde.

[@raxyn1993]

youtube be like: nah no one needs to see this video into the garbage it goes

[@kennylauderdale_en]

Pretty much. I noticed immediately that only the people who hit the bell were getting notified.

[@user-yw2qz4fp9f]

Hello mr. Yrke

[@deathmetalhell]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6a4aYyXd9albac

[@mangomandibles5693]

Hello thom yorke. Where’s the new album my man

[@AveryScarlet]

Oh god, this is the anime that my grandma bought when I was still visiting her. She popped this into her semi-working laserdisc player for me and my bro to watch coz she thought we'd like it. My brother told me he lost a fest brain cells from hearing foot-loose too many times while I was introduced to the concept of incest and twincest all at the same time. I know they aren't gay NOW, but you can't blame my six year-old self for thinking they were after the kiss. XD

[@Clay3613]

Your grandma was into LaserDisc? Awesome.

[@DiamondsRexpensive]

That's the kind of grandma I'd aspire to be.

[@harrisonlee9585]

"And then Footloose starts playing, and you realize this is really something special." Perfection.

[@Natendowii]

"What is Anime?" Anime is...straight from Japan, totally unexpected, not kids' stuff!

[@greshzuki8234]

They have "kids stuff" too but they also have something for every one. You love cooking? There are manga and anime series about that. You love ballet? There is at least one anime for that. You love adult stories but you also love cutesy stuff? There are anime series for that. Sometimes you can even get both adult and cutesy stuff in the same darn series if you look hard enough / know the title. And this is part of why I fell in love with anime , they some times have different ideas about what counts as a series for kids , they have options geared more towards adults , and a series or movie for every thing or just about any thing you can think of ...making anime so varied in story and even art style that there is something for every one. I will never understand people who hate on anime. I bet most of them haven't even given it a chance or they are just terrible idiots who see something anime / hentai they don't like ONCE and then assume all anime is the same or worse assume all anime is both. ( hentai and the same ) 🙄

[@mariebenton94]

@@greshzuki8234 lol they were referring to a newtype USA commercial

[@athousandfeethigh]

@@mariebenton94 haha I thought it was a Trump impression

[@CutieRingoJoy]

huh? anime is not kids? stuff? Then what is Pokémon, Innuyasha, precure, creamy mami.????

[@Natendowii]

@@greshzuki8234 You didn't get the reference.

[@AlottaBoulchit]

People who champion subs over dubs: *hurts self in confusion*

[@MaakaSakuranbo]

How so? Subs are nicer because they sound stays the same as the original creators desired it to be, and won't get reinterpreted or changed. If the original creator wanted it to be English, thats fine too.

[@SodomySnake]

In this case, the sub IS the dub. Dubception... or something...

[@JosephM]

Me. Even tho I know this isn't a dub

[@vib80]

@SodomySnake Oh, it's still a sub. They're right there on the screen... in Japanese.

[@philpyung4831]

@@MaakaSakuranbo "confusion" is a meme, it's a status ailment in video games like pokemon. I assume you don't know that because you took the comment seriously. It's a joke, a good one.

[@maef7026]

I lived in Korea in the 90s and only today did I learn that I have some merch from this anime. For years I thought it was just art made specifically to sell stationary and school supplies, I've never seen this manga before! XD

[@elekkitty]

It literally sounds like he’s bashing the anime and then saying it’s the best thing in the same second. Actually, I think he IS doing that.

[@vp3841]

Nah, I think he realizes that if he'll just bash them, pple will get bored pretty fast (another channel shitting on things, how original), so he does the cheap trick of "kinda liking it" and so far everyone's lapping it up.:D

[@Hex.Decimal]

Never stop uploading Kenny.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

Never stop commenting.

[@_V.Va_]

I don't think he'll ever stop uploading Kenny.

[@SailorLavender]

Kenny: They're not gay. Me, mind slightly blown: "THEY'RE NOT?!!!" Mind clicking with the info that they're brothers slightly after...

[@AlottaBoulchit]

I'm still shocked they're not gay. I knew they were brothers but that didn't really phase me because it's Japan.

[@loli_cvnt5622]

Never stopped Japan before

[@SailorLavender]

@@loli_cvnt5622 Good point.

[@soko4710]

they both get girlfriends in the manga but one of the girlfriends dies

[@CynicalOldDwarf]

@@AlottaBoulchit In all honesty, them being brothers makes them not being yaoi even more surprising. I guess they do have that strange kissing thing though...

[@woooooooooooow1214]

His name is Jay, Jay Kabira who played both Cipher and Siva. He’s quite a guy and he did a real good job.

[@madaharsaal-maisan3693]

I came here from "the logical way how to end your anime." And also, *yeah*

[@Botankh2]

Kenny you gotta help save these gems by helping archive the VHS tapes you have. Not necessarily upload them online but to make backups. Please you're our only hope

[@kennylauderdale_en]

You need multiple people doing that for that to be a thing. One house fire or flood & it's all gone. Sharing links of the videos I do to raise awareness is probably the best thing you can do. The more people interested in this stuff the better.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

@@kennylauderdale_en I'm sure you already have various programs (like Handbrake) in order to put the clips of the shows/movies into your reviews, but you should consider posting the entire films if they aren't posted already. If you can't post on YT, there is always Mega and Google File links, as well as Daily Motion and Vimeo (who seem to be less Orwelliany).

[@kennylauderdale_en]

You do it.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

@@kennylauderdale_en That's kind of hard to do when I don't have the video to upload. Also: somebody beat both of us to it. Link in separate post.

[@DZrache]

I mean, you don't HAVE to, but it'd be nice and actually show you about these things being preserved and shared amongst fans, instead of just showing off that you have this super speshul stash of rare animoos that no one else gets to see

[@badwrongfun5541]

Are you telling me that Cipher: The Video did 9/11?

[@kennylauderdale_en]

I cannot confirm nor deny Phil Collins involvement with that particular tragedy.

[@wildwoody8324]

I thought Rem Lezar was responsible?

[@ViktorTheMusician]

Wait, I get it Twin Towers Because they're twins This feels like one of those situations where the context of something has been so radically changed that an obvious joke/motif in the 80s feels so abstract now.

[@nintenx1235]

“What is anime?” Anime: short for animation. Spongebob: is an anime Shrek 2: is an anime Cipher: is an anime Twinkle Nora rock me: not an anime

[@TheAmbientWarrior]

"Have you ever had an anime where you never skip the intro just because it's that good? Imagine that feeling stretched out to 42 minutes. It's nothing BUT intro. It's ALL anime intro. It's the best parts of anime, without any of the filler. I can now say Phil Collins is my favorite anime composer without it being a lie." I can hardly get more sold on a show right now stop it!

[@vib80]

Yeah, I remember spoken English being a fad with Japanese girls in the 80s/early 90s, so I'm not surprised they went all in. In the mid-90s kogal culture took over and it became less of a thing, replaced with sock glue.

[@Stettafire]

I was listening to what you were saying until you said 'sock glue'. I know it's been 5 months but I'm confused and concerned. Sock glue!??? I have so many questions

[@NozomuYume]

@@Stettafire Kogals wore loose socks -- socks so big and loose and rumpled that they look almost like legwarmers. Since the socks were loose, they didn't stay up on their own, so they were held up with glue or double-sided tape.

[@just1randomhooman667]

@@NozomuYume I-

[@Qbgarden]

I thought "sock glue" was something totally different. Please don't ask.

[@arya31ful]

@@Qbgarden I know what you meant and now i'm sure they really did that back then.

[@dragongoat1120]

I read the manga. They kiss because it's a family tradition.

[@Nocturne22]

That's... better?

[@jenathent4840]

DragonGoat 11 so Tom Brady

[@victoryb.5437]

Nope. They *made* it into a family tradition. But the reason behind them kissing is actually talked about by the end of the manga where *[SPOILER]* even they admit they didn't know why they started doing it other than the fact that they were "forcing" their brotherly affection to cover up the fact they both had unresolved animosity and anger towards one another that they couldn't reveal. After being separated from each other for awhile and opening up about these dark feelings after they reunited, their relationship became a lot more "genuine" and they stopped kissing.

[@PhilosophicalBum21]

@@victoryb.5437 That's really interesting. Thanks for letting us know! We would have never known otherwise, the manga seems super hard to get!

[@baohanh9038]

Jocelyn Cheng maybe it’s late and sorry for my bad english lol. SPOILER. It’s a long story. When they were kids, their mother had an affair. Although they didn’t tell their father, he knew about it somehow. Consequently, one night, the parents got into a fight, the father went hiking for some reasons with the little brother-Cipher and he died because of bad weather (Cipher was still alive). The brothers thought it was their mother’s fault that their father died so they moved out and lived together. Unfortunately, Cipher also thought it was his responsibility for the death of his dad and he usually had nightmares about that night so he started using drugs to forget about it. The big brother-Siva, tried to help his brother to overcome it by forcing him to go to school as Siva and Cipher actually liked doing it (because acting was the only thing he loved and was good at). Finally, Cipher got rid of his addiction but they still went to school as Siva.

[@Stormborn_717]

1:39 "Never Gonna Give You Up"

[@SakuraStardust]

They made a new City Hunter special and set it in modern japan... the 80s aesthetic is what made that series

[@montajedelespectador]

Watch MIX, other baseball anime of the creator of touch, its so kawaiiness classic, not like the modern moe cuteness

[@KhayJayArt]

Steven Spielberg has god tier taste in anime.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

I wouldn't go THAT far.

[@SkullKidAu]

As I said on the last upload Cipher the Video is the truest proof of a higher being

[@DaVince21]

It's kinda funny how this anime is a little bit of an enigma, considering the word "cipher" is a common phrase used in the world of data encryption.

[@DeathGripsIsOffline696]

"they aren't gay" you're right they're bisexual

[@tonyd.u.y7262]

Holy shit you're a genius

[@nobuddy5442]

Do you want them to? *Aight I'mma bounce,keep on Alabamians*

[@adecentdelinquent8986]

Weren't they clones or something

[@totallynoteverything1.]

@@adecentdelinquent8986 so it's technically narcissism

[@delete---7593]

😂

[@abroogie]

This was worth the wait and more. I wish living in New York was a Phil Collins AMV.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

Thanks, I put an incredible amount of work into trying to review an anime with literally no story.

[@rikiishitoru8885]

God damn you, Lauderdale, Laserdisc is the future and you will NOT censor me!

[@Corium1]

I’m still trying to invest!

[@beanbandit495]

Pffft, pathetic. Buying every single cel for the entire anime is the only way

[@kennylauderdale_en]

Blame youtube. Videos show to subscribers using the premier function apparently don't go out to 98% of your subscribers because it counts as a "stream". They don't want you to know about the Footloose anime. It's a scheme against Kenny Logins, Kenny G, & all Kennys all over the world I tell you.

[@rikiishitoru8885]

@@kennylauderdale_en We must join forces to end KZbin's agenda against Laserdisc

[@JosephM]

@@beanbandit495 agreed

[@TheDfhdr]

This sounds like Cole and Dylan Sprouse the Anime XD Netflix should get on that XD

[@samiamrg7]

“I did think it was weird to end the anime with 5 minutes of live action video of 2 buildings that no longer exist” *Oof*

[@sumdood8563]

Anime is a lot like Gygas: you can’t really describe it, but you’ll know it when you see it.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

[ʸᴼᵁ ᶜᴬᴺᴺᴼᵀ ᴳᴿᴬˢᴾ ᵀᴴᴱ ᵀᴿᵁᴱ ᶠᴼᴿᴹ ᴼᶠ ᴷᴱᴺᴺʸ ᴸᴼᴳᴵᴺˢ ᴬᵀᵀᴬᶜᴷ]

[@burntpoptart853]

Phil Collins started praying

[@duchessedeberne3909]

Love this thread

[@popgunpanic2390]

My girlfriend is a huge fan of cipher. One of the things she noted is how accurately they got the Staten Island ferry in that one scene that depicts it. In 1980 before the internet.

[@CylonDorado]

“You might say anime needs a story, a plot, or things like character development...” I don’t know where anybody got that idea.

[@Ari-pi2qn]

How many times did you change the thumbnail

[@kennylauderdale_en]

Until I got it right. Now it's perfect.

[@lucapeyrefitte6899]

kenny lauderdale 😂 it totally is though

[@roundmoundofpound6066]

Phil Collins is indeed a great anime composer. Up there with Keith Emerson, and Jeff Lynne.

[@a-s-greig]

I get the joke, but boy _howdy_ did Jeff Lynne made a fantastic EP track for Daicon IV.

[@leesherman5192]

@@a-s-greig That was the first A.M.V. I saw and it gave me unrealistic expectations for all other A.MV.s.

[@kKizz]

Personally, Cipher is one of my go-to classic shoujo manga. I feel it's one of the best out there. Psychological trauma and overcoming it and stuff. They're just wrapped in this shoujo-manga package... The author's current on-going series is very interesting too (Hana yori mo Hana no Gotoku). Beautiful illustration and story though I doubt it will get animated ever...

[@milmil5350]

This is amazing. *When you mess up while having a "clear" vision, it'll still become a masterpiece.* That's what I learned from this and The Room.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

They sincerely tried their best, so everything about this is from good intentions. That's why I hate a lot of modern media. It's usually too self aware & sarcastic.

[@hemidas]

"California Crisis is the most 80's anime!" Cipher: "Hold my sake."

[@vib80]

Sake isn't 80s enough... make it Pocari Sweat.

[@teamLNearMello]

kenny lauderdale is quite a guy and he did a really good job.

[@edrice2621]

Let's hear it for the boy!

[@Gabriel-ih7ig]

Zonesama played it on their new years stream. it was a life changing experience. I would not mind modern anime taking more of this direction. To top it all off with voice actors that sound like people, sweet editing, and a use of copyrighted material that simply not be a possibility nowdays makes it perfect.

[@Dr.Blythe]

Your video really made me interested in Cipher I feel nostalgic for old Anime, even tough I've hardly seen any Seeing your videos about these obscure but interesting lost Anime brings a smile to my face. Thanks Kenny, truly appreciate it. ♥

[@lilacKurage]

7:43 she can pull off keys as earings. I love her already. Well, another good video! You made me wanna check the manga!

[@OogaChakaOogaOoga]

- _title says 'California'_ - _anime based in New York_ *well, what*

[@kennylauderdale_en]

There's a part of the manga where they go to California as actors to work on a movie. Those clips with the palm trees come from that.

[@montajedelespectador]

Watch after see the classic heavy metal antology shorts animated movie, in double session, there can be a japanese spin off

[@powertheimmortal]

3:45 thats an idea stand: footloose ability A once you hear its user’s radio you are compelled to dance. the tempo slowly increases so inexperienced dancer’s legs begin to break.

[@TheOriginators]

I've been on quite a binge through your anime reviews lately. Would love to see more!!! :D

[@consequenciasinimaginaveis6901]

I came back to watch anime because of your wonderful videos! Greetings from a brazilian fan.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

That's the best compliment I've gotten in months.

[@grimthelover]

Bah I hate how literally in like a month and a half youve become one of my favorite youtubers Please keep making content on the obscure Your awesome

[@kennylauderdale_en]

Feel free to share my videos online. The more people that know Phil Collins & Kenny Logins are part of an 80's anime the better. Might be a little biased on the Kenny Logins though.

[@FangzV]

Thank you so much for including those Tonegawa clips. I've seen Jay Kabira credited with that role for a while now, but I've never sat down to watch Tonegawa and the clips I found didn't convince me. But this...this is without a doubt that man.

[@cigarettesmoke7636]

The Cipher manga is great RIP CMX. I never knew there was an adaptation, thanks for bringing this to light, I'm going to check it out it sounds interesting!

[@liomanwhy]

After some time of waiting, the video is finally here. Thank you, Kenny! Let's watch it for the boy

[@Lori_P89]

Whoa the thumbnail for this video has changed for me like 3 times!! That's just how potent this anime is

[@nickmiroli]

This turned me on to Cipher which is now in my top 5 animes list. Thank you.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

1:30 This was pretty standard back then, and it confused us gaijin not realizing why that was!

[@roughlysktch4542]

I love the art style though!! We need more of this, animes that are willing to be silly w out being too self aware. Reminds me of Heartcocltail was an actual anime.

[@hicknopunk]

Thank you for the terrable videos. ^_^

[@sagie]

This is amazing, i'm yet to watch it if ever - but recently finished the manga and had to say it become one of my favorites, so seeing this video was a treat I'm not sure how i got, thank you!

[@poisonbang2178]

Happy to run into this video, Cipher is my favorite anime. I had no idea there was a manga of it as well though.

[@OzzKrol69]

Jeeesus this is like that pop team epic American movie skit but with funnier engrish and 40 minust long instead of 10.

[@yakiyaki5043]

Telling my kids this was banana fish

[@tatiquieta]

2:32 i had to pause for 2 min i cant stop laughing

[@rixou4991]

Literally the story in the beginning that you fabricated was great! I hope there will be a series like that or you can even make an anime about that! 🤣

[@StoneMasonComix]

I’ve been curious about this one ever since you posted those clips. Shame there’s no broader story, but I do love me some Phil Collins. I might check it out.

[@Geck0GC]

Danger zone? As in, the song by Kenny Loggins? *FOOTLOOSE*

[@MustachioedBear]

great vid. also like the xabungle music. Dancing Xabungle is such a great album!

[@shahani6037]

Thank you youtube for recommending. My life is changed by this newfound vintage anime series

[@384vh5mw]

Here's an algorithm boosting comment for ya, Kenny

[@ObliviouzRomantic]

The fact I still don't know what their secret is makes me sad.

[@a-s-greig]

If he told you, would it be a secret?

[@kandigloss6438]

You have actually convinced me to add this to my OVA challenge list even though I had disqualified it, I'm doing a personal challenge where I'm watching every OVA from 198X - 2001 that has english subs.

[@user-rx9es3jx7g]

IVE SEEN CLIPS FROM THIS VIDEO AND ITS CRACKED ME UP FOR AGES!!! AND IM SO HAPPY THAT I KNOW WHAT ITS CALLED NOW

[@jellyintheattic7323]

There are 3 other 80's anime you might want to check out (if you haven't already) which have a very similar music video vibe to them: To-Y, based on a manga about a rock band, featuring loads of big J-Pop hits of the time. It also looks quite gorgeous Machikado no Märchen, one of the earliest OVAs, with a very loose romance plot framing a bunch of very 80's music segments Chocolate Panic Picture Show, which is actually a straight up music video based on an experimental gag manga with a serious case of blackface There's also Noel's Fantastic Trip, which is a vanity project of children's songwriter Iruka which frequently halts it's story for barely related music video interlude, but it's a production for very young kids, so I don't know if it would be your cup of tea. Anyways, keep up the good work!

[@kennylauderdale_en]

That's a lot to work with. I'll see if I can get to some of that eventually.

[@livlinn971]

Thank youfor an another great analysis! Its such a shame that a gem like this gets burried because of copyright bs😓 At least they should release the manga in ebooks... Also read the sequel series.

[@Kaizykat]

I was watching some of your other videos the other night and was like, "Okay, is this guy _that_ funny or am I just really slap-happy?" Considering I spat out the water I was drinking at the mere _mention_ or Nora, it's the former. I love that these things exist.

[@BelleFlower15]

You mentioned Country Road being in Whispers of the Heart!! That was such a weird experience for me because I saw that movie long before I knew the song was an American classic. 😅 And I loved the lyrics they used in the movie. Imagine my dismay when Country Road became a meme and the lyrics were so different. 😩

[@TheXev]

3:16 This line is making wonder which anime I saw when I was in collage (between 2002-2005) that featured an entire episode of a girl making a Japanese version of Country Roads... thinking it was either Happiness or Kashimashi... now I must investigate since I haven't seen either in forever.

[@RedZeshinX]

Was gonna say no way Cipher is more 80's than California Crisis, but you actually say that in your video @3:26. 😄

[@holyfool5605]

I love this manga and im glad the OVA because such a meme, all thanks to you. thanks kenny, you rock!

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

Just pure nostalgic aesthetic. I love it! :D