Six, Five, and Four Segment Displays

Inspired by Posy's video on segmented displays
Visuals were all made by me! (Except seven segment display, that’s just a font)
Downloadable font for Serjaos display (made by viewer): github.com/klhrt/customfonts/...
Music by these geniuses:
• Nirvana's Nevermind bu...
• Dirt by Alice in Chain...
• Risingson (Remastered ...
• Nitrome Must Die - Gam...
• "The Competition " - R...
Cool display vids:
• 6 segment display prop...
• (Old) 4 Segment Numeri...
• 3 segment display concept

[@itioticginger9520]

While the urge to use less segments is quite interesting, the problem I see with all of these is that the individual segments themselves becomes far more complicated. The simplicity of the 7 segments in the classic display all being little dashes is hard to replicate.

[@0x6a09]

@@CiRdy34 oooo hi

[@Cypekeh]

Yeah but from the engineering perspective the circuit doesn't care how long the diode is and if you found some nice design you could represent all the digits with 4 bits instead of 7 bits. It could actually be useful in some real life cases. But the 4 segment design would have to be good and readable.

[@TobiasTHolmes]

​@@Cypekeh A seven segment display still represents the numbers with four bits, it includes a few logic gates to determine which of the seven segments to display from these, rather than being directly told with seven input bits.

[@Cypekeh]

@@TobiasTHolmes hmm you're right in that case i wonder if there are any advantages at all then. maybe being able to use less gates and having simpler circuit but practicality they're too cheap to consider that a significant drawback

[@petrkinkal1509]

@@vinsplayer2634 You can't have less than 4 bits so no.

[@suricate2964]

1:47 This actually looks really good as a sci-fi display

[@mopmopmopmopmopmop]

that zero is honestly so weird it's actually really cool

[@suricate2964]

@@mopmopmopmopmopmop yeah !

[@chainerfries4417]

I think the best would be 5 Segment Display B

[@Himechinachae]

@@chainerfries4417 that one feels like old movie

[@Cyanesque111]

My thoughts exactly, either that or a cyberpunk display.

[@kutsy3785]

The six segment display at 1:15 is probably the coolest thing to make electronic gadgets for. Not only does it look neat, you could illuminate the top parts to indicate degrees.

[@panthererousse]

cant you already do that on a normal display?

[@cheddartaco]

@@panthererousse yeah, but other six segment displays don't let you do this

[@omeg5473]

Wym "illuminate the top parts?"

[@potssnpanns8418]

@@omeg5473 inverse of the zero

[@omeg5473]

​@@potssnpanns8418 ohhh

[@shayes.x]

I enjoy the idea of these being used in something like a video game as a "foreign" language representation of numbers, maybe a futuristic game. They're legible if you look close enough, but otherwise look totally different

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

Oh, so like alien chop suey fonts? That's cool!

[@fordalels]

Makes me think of how splatoon did that!

[@Ghorda9]

predator did it with the bomb.

[@gabrieledomfazio]

0x10c somewhere

[@hadrienlondon4990]

The display at 1:28 looks good. Plus, the 0 being small and thus distinct from the other digits could be useful for calculations as knowing where the 0s are in a number make it easier to calculate stuff with it

[@beaclaster]

that gives me the same vibes as what cyberpunk gives to me

[@fryeguyvids]

It's also really good for calculations since it shows X and Y clearly, not only are they the most common letters used for variables but they are the two axises on a 2D grid! Z for the 3rd axis is also possible but it's identical to the 2.

[@Termenz1]

God every time I see 1:28 I automatically assume it's the bots with their "I can't believe how magical it was" copypasta again

[@Periwinkleaccount]

@@Termenz1 what do you mean?

[@RandomGuyyy]

@@_J3T CopyPasta::EmotionalAppeal (EVerbosity::Verbose)

[@gluttonousmaximus9048]

My favorite is always going to be the 1-segment display, because it's the most honest portrayal of numbers the way they are recognized in computers.

[@tovi3280]

excuse me the what

[@willowids369]

​@@tovi3280 one segment that's either on or off. Aka, it's a binary display.

[@aydynx]

@@tovi3280 a physical representation of a bit

[@LorenzJahn]

​@@aydynx of a bit stupid?

[@igorordecha]

@@willowids369 aka, a single LED

[@Axqu7227]

The MIDI versions of Nirvana and Alice In Chains songs really push this over the edge

[@Crafteyer]

Aren't those the Super Mario 64 soundfont meme songs, that just go way too hard? It took me a second to realise where I knew the music from and why it hit so good.

[@keeganfaulkner1240]

@@Crafteyer yeah, the are. I’m guessing from o4nward or something

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@matrixphijr]

⁠@@Crafteyer _That’s_ what that is. I knew I recognized the sound, but it was hard to really distinguish with, you know, ‘Smells Like Teen Spirit’ and ‘In Bloom’ instead of Mario.

[@berkerbey245]

They are. Someone made the whole nirvana nevermind album with sm64 sounds its on youtubr

[@deepdishsalad]

I love how the video looks professional and educational but we get golden lines such as “this seven is kind of a midget” and “but this looks pretty stupid” 🤣

[@skan5728]

I made a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5S1io2FrqZsY80

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@yoisakikanade_]

"it actually looks more like ancient cave paintings than numbers"

[@julealgon]

What's the problem with those lines?

[@yoisakikanade_]

@@julealgon theres no problem, theyre really funny. theres just kinda a funny contrast between the professional-looking video and the voiceover cracking jokes

[@unaverageavocado159]

It’s cool how almost every display is built around the number 8, and then branches out to everything else

[@YenjiJem]

This is getting WAY more views than expected. I'm aware the audio is pretty meh, I usually don't speak in videos so its something i'm working on.

[@kyogre8192]

Thanks for adding my video in the video lol I tried to make a 3 segment display Working on a really good five segment currently

[@fireninja8250]

One thing that annoys me is the quality of the music. Like I mean, yeah it's old, but sounds like it came from a microwave.

[@kyogre8192]

Also you said that there are 8 combinations a 3 segment can have, if you count all off as a combination then you are right but I don't believe so

[@nyanSynxPHOENIX]

Congrats! Always nice to get put into the graces of the Algorithm, haha

[@jellyfish0311]

Intensely interesting

[@wrpro7495]

It’s always interesting when designs stray from the practical and into the unique, like objectively the 7-segment display is the most efficient and understandable, but the more boundaries you’re forced to work through the more creativity shines through in the finished product

[@vonakakkola]

depend on what you mean with "efficiency", with few segments you can make a more compact circuit for converting binary numbers into which segment should turn on, in today's technology there's no need in this but try to make a display in Minecraft that have a binary number as an input, with less segments it's way easier make a circuit

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@PosyMusic]

Wow, nice! And thanks for the mention at the end!

[@oscarscadds36]

how has nobody noticed this comment

[@thepulsarx5896]

@@oscarscadds36 idk

[@Cyanesque111]

I personally like the display at 1:45 the best. It gives off a very unique cyberpunk feeling to me.

[@thedillestweed2644]

Dude yes. That's what I was saying. I want that to become real.

[@flatfingertuning727]

I'd like it better if realized as a 7-segment display, splitting the /, because that would allow all digits to have a Hamming distance of 2, in addition to having more distinctive outlines.

[@catprog]

I think for a 7 segment version I would add a dash for the 3

[@thedillestweed2644]

​@@catprog I'd clip the diagonal segment to make the 3 look like this __ /_ __| Not sure if that will appear as intended

[@flatfingertuning727]

@@catprog I like that a lot, especially since it could improve the 4 as well. Unfortunately, losing the split in the middle would mean that "5" and "8" differ by only one segment, and would make it hard to design other digits to ensure that any two valid digits would have at least two segments difference between them (maximizing Hamming distance would require making the 7 have a vertical side, to avoid similarity to the "2", and making the 1 have a short diagonal stroke to avoid similarity to the "7" and blank. If Hamming distance isn't important, I think a 7-segment display with that middle segment added would be in a lot of ways superior to today's common design. WIth that design, it's often hard for someone with poor visual acuity to distinguish among 0, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, and 9, since they all have the same exterior shape. This design, by contrast, has much more varied exterior contours.

[@thenumeratorofficial]

I died laughing at "that seven is a midget".

[@MuzikBike]

The subtitles censor that word for some ungodly reason.

[@DeadlyBlaze]

Just thought of a new joke:"Why is 6 afraid of 7?"

[@Kaleidio]

​@@MuzikBike that's because it's usually used as an ableist slur against dwarves. not in this context though, but the algorithm didn't care.

[@asdfasdfasdfasdf246]

@@Kaleidio how the fuck is it an ableist slur? my friend is short as hell and they don't care about being called a midget (they have dwarfism) they're an adult and i think they're 4'11 (if i'm doing my conversion correctly) they actually find it funny to be called a midget

[@Kaleidio]

@@Termenz1 youtube's algorithm is the one that confused the context for a slur, not me.

[@JoeJoeTater]

I could totally see an alternate history where 4-segment displays got used because you could fit two digits into a byte.

[@xplodingkatz]

3:44 that was actually a really good one :0

[@juh9870_projects]

Would be much easier to follow if when displaying numbers, they lit up both in large view and in right view at the same time, instead of with a delay of one number

[@zaidlacksalastname4905]

Yeah that didn't make a lot of sense because the small ones were useful for comparing against other numbers

[@tanveshkaviskar442]

That thing really made my eye sick.

[@skan5728]

I made a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5S1io2FrqZsY80

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@RalseiGaming]

Using midis in the background music makes me so happy I have a fascination with midis and just think they hold a lot of character

[@DiThi]

That's not exactly midi... I recommend you the video "trackers: the sound of 16 bit" by ahoy. Midi has a predefined set of instruments while tracker music have custom samples built in. Tracker music songs are also called mods because of the original tracker format that joined patterns and samples.

[@spyfoxguy]

I recognized "Lounge Act" immediately but couldn't place the non-Nevermind tracks. Anyone know what they are?

[@tictactony420]

@@spyfoxguy song at 1:45 is Risingson by Massive Attack, 4:20 is a MIDI version of Would? by Alice in Chains

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@KaneyoriHK]

I like the six segments cause they look very cyberpunk the fives looks spacey the fours looks pretty magical

[@mamoopy]

The massive attack at 1:50 is more than appreciated, legendary taste in music

[@petrkdn8224]

Now about a million segment display.. Hold up, thats just a screen

[@BookInBlackEWOW]

r/true

[@redpepper74]

I liked Posy’s video on segmented displays so much that I tried making my own 4-segment display as well, and actually I think it came out pretty well. Hold on I should totally make a video to show it off lmao

[@rea9lizer]

let me know when it's done!

[@lkahfi]

I just comment for the notification

[@albingrahn5576]

notify me

[@jannovotny4797]

notify me as well

[@gmdtungsten]

Notify

[@noahbrogle]

I would have never guessed myself to be someone to be so enamored by this type of content, but by god is it beautiful. Keep up the awesome work! And it's nice to hear your voice in this video, it brings a personal touch to it.

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@thelegendarybulldozer7256]

I'm not sure why, but the one at 3:15 is my favorite. Granted it absolutely sacrifices quick readability, but I think it looks the coolest.

[@skan5728]

I made a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5S1io2FrqZsY80

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@ikarimisu0184]

it looks like the ninjas logo

[@TheCreator278]

OMG HII

[@notwithouttext]

i tried making a seven-segment design based on the original, but the 1, 3, 4, and 6 look better. (maybe even 0 and 2) we start with the original:  ━       ━   ━       ┃ ┃   ┃   ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃           ━   ━   ━    ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃     ┃   ┃   ━       ━   ━        ━   ━   ━   ━   ━  ┃   ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃  ━   ━       ━   ━    ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃  ━   ━       ━      notice all of their lower right vertical segments are lit except for the 2. we can keep that permanently lit (maybe by drawing it on), making it six segments, and add a diagonal segment like so to bring it back to seven:  ━       ━   ━       ┃╱┃  ╱┃  ╱   ╱   ╱┃               ━   ━   ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃   ┃   ━       ━   ━          ━       ━   ━   ━  ┃    ╱  ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃  ━   ━       ━   ━    ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃  ━   ━       ━    (i know this looks bad, so here is connected version closer to what you'd see in real life) ┏━┓     ╺━┓ ╺━┓      ┃╱┃  ╱┃  ╱   ╱   ╱┃  ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃   ┗━┓ ┗━┫  ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃   ┃  ┗━┛     ┗━┛ ╺━┛      ┏━╸     ┏━┓ ┏━┓ ┏━┓ ┃    ╱  ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┗━┓ ┣━┓   ┃ ┣━┫ ┗━┫   ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃ ╺━┛ ┗━┛     ┗━┛

[@notwithouttext]

you might say, "if the lower right vertical segment is always on, then spaces would look confusing, and you'd still need an extra segment." in that case, you can make it so the segment is actually split and shared by three other segments. so the central horizontal segment contains part of it, the bottom horizontal segment contains part of it, and the upper right vertical segment contains part of it.        ╻         ┃      ╺━┓   ┃   ╻    ┃   ┃   ┃    ╹   ╹ ╺━┛ this way you can have a better 7 and can make almost all the alphabet, besides f, m, t, w, and x. ╺━┓     ┏━┓ ┏━╸      ╱   ╱┃ ┃╱  ┃     ┃ ┃   ┣━┫ ┣━┓ ┃   ┏━┫ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃         ┗━┛ ┗━┛ ┗━┛ ┏━┓ ┏━┓             ┃╱  ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃     ┃ ┃   ┗━┫ ┣━┫ ┃     ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┗━┛ ╺━┛         ┗━┛             ┏━┓ ┏━┓ ┃╱  ┃   ┃╱┃ ┃ ┃ ┃╱  ┣━┓ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃ ┃       ┗━┛     ┗━┛      ┏━┓ ┏━┓             ┃╱┃ ┃╱   ╱  ┃ ┃ ┃╱  ┗ ┃ ┣━┓ ┗━┓ ┃ ┃       ┃ ┃ ┃   ┃ ┃ ┃             ╺━┛ ┗━┛          ╺━┓             ┃ ┃  ╱  ┗━┫ ┃     ┃ ┃ ┃ ╺━┛ ┗━┛

[@adamantii]

@@notwithouttext This comment has so much effort put into it and this idea is actually really cool, props

[@Tree_-wp5zn]

Is this loss Sorry

[@notwithouttext]

@@adamantii thank you! i think it's really interesting how you can add diagonals without changing the number of segments

[@notwithouttext]

@@Tree_-wp5zn no (if it were loss why did i add diagonal lines)

[@KingCrafter999]

Sci-fi fonts

[@ansomnisecretvault]

Real

[@JumpinMasterGD]

GD fonts for 2.21 🗣️🔥

[@hansonkerman7286]

Fewer segments are pretty interesting just because of the creativity required and changes in perspective needed. as an artist these really fascinated me ty for making this video ❤️

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@sevensouls009]

Honestly some of these designs would make really cool fridge magnets.

[@CrystMaks]

thats literally such a good idea you can make numbers out of them

[@mbcommandnerd]

I could see the first six segment display being used in an elevator, as it can display all the numbers plus incredibly good up and down arrows! The 4 is PERFECT, too, giving this one a leg up over the seven segment display! It might be hard to read at first, but with a little practice, it could become second nature!

[@shiinondogewalker2809]

yeah tbh the only issue is the 7

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

2 and 5, 3 and 8, and worst of all the 7 are a bit hard to guess. Imagine if a foreigner uses the elevator, they may get confused at the sideways z.

[@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache]

@@cerebrummaximus3762 wdym foreigner? Isn't Hindu-Arabic just a universal way of representing numbers regardless of which country you're from?

[@cerebrummaximus3762]

@@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache Fair enough. I can't remember what I was going for in that month-old comment, but rereading it, I think it's the following. The numbers I spoke about in the previous comment were made to look almost unintelligable in that variant. If you're not used to seeing the number displayed in such way (eg if a country adopts that system while you country does not and you visit the foreign country), it may throw you off. Anybody who has used elevators or seen numbers in such screens may immediately infer that it's the said number, but if it's too different, it may and will throw people off.

[@saltedmutton7269]

2:50 that 4 *screams* of complete bodaciousness, love it!

[@skan5728]

I made a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5S1io2FrqZsY80

[@jacobsiron6929]

Ikr? Saw the glitchiness and thought "what for?"

[@bm-22projects]

Idk just for various effects I guess

[@mralem3548]

Also the 0

[@Ozzymand]

Posy's video on segmented displays was great, and yours feels like a great addition to what he showcased, great work man

[@kenb2957]

That sequence at 3:10 and on blew my mind, that patern is like a secret code that would look sick on a watch blinking through the day.

[@fast-yi9js]

the last 5 segment display actually looks really friggin good

[@CallumsArmy]

the music choice and visuals are actually fucking brilliant good job dude

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@darth_dan8886]

Many of these make for a great setpiece in a sci-fi/cyberpunk/alternate reality retrofuturistic setting.

[@Jamesthe1]

I really like these designs; they have their own character to them and could be used in a font.

[@katsurotak6332]

Nirvana remixes in the background started to drive me insane I knew the melodies were familiar but couldn't figure out what they were because of how different they feel from the original Smells like teen spirit blew the cover away though

[@animefangamer277ominous_ab7]

For More Segments (Around 8 To 16!), You Can Write All 36 Characters (10 Digit Numbers Plus 26 Letters!) In Even Diagonal Lines Without Repeating Any Character That Was Used For A Fraction Of Up To 4,096 Ways! (Mainly Straight Lines For Each Design, Not Merging 2 To Form Somewhat Unique Shapes For Denoting A Character, Or Using Any “Curvy Lines”!) As For The Lowercase Letters… They Could Need Beyond 16 Segments To Be Created To Replicate At Least 1 Way They Are Written In Pen, Pencil, Or Even Typed Digitally! (There Are Little Letters That Can Be Written In More Lines Than Their Capital Counterparts, While Many Can Be Written In Straight Lines Like Some Of The Uppercase Letters!)

[@YenjiJem]

Your comments are always a blast

[@animefangamer277ominous_ab7]

@@YenjiJem … Thanks. I Try To Not Offend Anyone, Even If I Look At The Guidelines On What To Say On Any Content, Including Yours… Like How The 2nd Song Of “What Would A Googol Dice Look Like” Was “Machinimasound - Escape From The Temple” For Reaching The 1st Dice Cube That’s Bigger Than Earth In Volume… 1 Octillion Dice! (Before I Added The Music To My SoundCloud Playlist, I Watched A KZbin Upload That Directly Mentioned It As The 2nd Or So Theme For “History Of The World” That Was Focused On 1 Part, Such That The Animation Uses Flags From The 1st Year Of The Project To The Latest Of The Modern Day That Can Be A Couple To Many Years Old… If They Were Released Earlier In The 2020s, Or Throughout The 2010s / Late 2000s!)

[@Ceruleanst]

Adding two vertical segments down the middle of the traditional seven segments is enough to create disambiguated uppercase and lowercase letters, though some of the lowercase will be tall, and v may require interpretive license. If instead you put an x in the lower half, for a total of 11, you can have a pleasing and appropriately proportioned lowercase, plus reasonable punctuation, without even any need for extra on top for the capitals if you make allowances for T.

[@jocabulous]

i hate people that type every word capitalized

[@hellishbrogaming3643]

8 to 2.092279e+13 segments?

[@ricolorenz7307]

This is a fantastic video. The colors are beautiful, the content is engaging, the pacing is perfect, and the script is informative and the jokes hit right on the mark. Fantastic job, I'm glad the algorithm let me watch this today.

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@_bowlofsoup]

this was realy well made and feels reminiscent of posy's video on the subject. keep up the good work

[@energeticcreeper7969]

i appreciate how on pretty much all displays mentioned here, 8 is just all the lights on at once

[@olegmoki]

Posy's videos are so good, and seeing a video inspired by some is even better

[@indep_]

dude your music taste is so good nirvana and massive attack was a very pleasant surprise to my ears in this video lmao

[@notdudelol8364]

Love how he uses nirvana’s never mind music. Really makes the video more enjoyable

[@Lapis.A]

2:13 someone please tell me that looks like some kind of alien numerical system you'd see in star trek or star wars

[@jptoony2670]

Love the music you used in this. Massive Attack is such a good pick

[@Thepowerof2190]

When I watched this video at the end of the video you shout out to posy and when exit to full screen the video you shout out to is right on top top! Perfect timing👌

[@soaari]

Practicality aside, those designs are awesome! (Most of them haha) Also, really liked the Nirvana track in the background.

[@LithmusEarth]

4:07 I feel like the problem here is an arabic one, where "we" decided not to make our letters unique enough in anticipation of computer displays. There are most certainty in all of these displays enough combinations to satisfy, the problem lies with how we choose to represent.

[@LithmusEarth]

i would doodle with our english letters in my notebooks and stuff, this kind of segmented stuff, I always wondered if we could have had more efficient designs.

[@bm-22projects]

3:54 Or you could just have the top left segment displayed as 4

[@Sammy71ful]

When I was a kid, I had this really old (now) mini “game” computer that you could do various activities with. If I remember correctly, it made use of that very first segment display (the standard, already-existing one), but with four additional diagonal segments in each of the “quadrants”. I think this allowed it to display all numbers and alphabetic characters fairly clearly.

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@cmmartti]

That is a fairly standard variant common on a lot devices that need to display text, like security system displays or car radios. But it's not much harder to just go full pixels at that point, so that is usually what is done.

[@HAL-oj4jb]

I now really have the urge to build an analog clock myself that uses one of these, the second and last 6-segment displays look really dope, I think they're easily readable and look kinda sci-fi

[@skan5728]

My secont attempt at a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/laO8kp5paspso68

[@arorei]

The 7-segment displays already show difficulty displaying letters, so I think instead of reducing the number of segments, increasing it will be more beneficial. I've seen an 11-segment display and safe to say it does the job very well

[@bonelessChillies]

I love how legible the 2nd 6-Segment display is!!! Also for the 9 at 4:02 the bottom left segment could be pink instead to mimic a 9 with a straight tail or more like this (q) since the curve is more westward. There is still slightly a problem with that solution, though.

[@Niapemium2763]

2:12 im starting to think were the aliens because that display that shows numbers looks otherworldly

[@user-qi6pv9jh7o]

At least it's symmetrical (which really adds to the chance some aliens may use it for human communication)

[@quonit37]

I'm just impressed by your soundtrack omg

[@joenormanmusic]

Dude I love the low sample grunge songs in the background. I was like "Is that 'Would?' by AiC?" and it was lol. Cool vid!

[@herrkatzegaming]

A lot of these lower segment displays look like they'd be used in a video game setting by non humans (like the Combine from HL2)

[@SomeTomfoolery]

Super interesting to see! I've designed my own concept for a 4 segment display, but it compromises a lot on a few of the digits. It's so cool to see some other attempts!

[@TheAdhdGaming]

this is a cool delicious demo on x-segment displays :3

[@bruhbbawallace]

humans are so good at making up new problems to solve also i love the midis

[@InfraredScale]

Would love to see some of these as fonts, also good music choice :]

[@scifidino5022]

0:07: **exists* Me: **blinks* Video: **Turns into alien hieroglyphs*

[@gms02]

actually fifteen seconds in and already had a belly laugh. I'm going to enjoy this video

[@NaeemTHM]

I have no idea why this video popped up in my recommendations but GOSH am I happy it did. Fascinating stuff!

[@hrishikeshaggrawal]

3:00 You can improve that 5 segment design B if you make the middle horizontal section a bit shorter at the right end and extend the bottom right section into the space created (only majorly sacrifices clarity on 2 and reduces style points on 4, 9 but significantly improves 0, 3)

[@raffimolero64]

I think I prefer the original. 3 is already really good as is, and I don't think the slight improvement to 0 is worth the downgrade to 2, already difficult to read. My priorities here are to reduce the tail on 2, reduce the indent on the left of 6, and make 0 bigger. Let me know your opinions on this one: Move the middle bar down (making 0 bigger, 6 clearer) Offset the bottom half of 1 (1 is no longer a straight line, makes 6 clearer) Add a serif (little nub sticking out the bottom left) to the top left bar (mames 2 clearer, 3, 7 more stylish) Stretch the top left bar to the right, replacing the top of 1 similar to your suggestion. This now occupies the whole top section. (makes the height of 4's tops more consistent and makes 5, 6 clearer, at the cost of 1's height) We could also add another serif to the middle bar sticking down the bottom right (the exact opposite of your original suggestion) but that would sacrifice 0, 4, 9. What do you think?

[@unilajamuha91]

I don't know man, 2 is already a stretch, can't sacrifice it any more. 3 and 0 are fine, and aren't improved all that much imo

[@hrishikeshaggrawal]

@@raffimolero64 moving the middle bar down also makes 2 better. but it makes the 0 look less like a rectangle and more like an almond which is a downgrade imo but it's ok offsetting bottom half of one makes a lot of numbers loose a lot of style points, maybe just decrease the inclination angle of the entire 1 a bit instead of making it completely straight; do this by stretching the entire aspect ratio to be taller and thinner. this will also improve 0 by decreasing the angle on the right side to be less radical completely agree with that serif. i noticed that part as well after typing my comment hmmm instead of stretching it completely into the other, make it so both share the same space with an angle like :- instead of the original: ____ _ __// / ,,,,/ / (ignore the commas and line spacing) or your suggestion: _____ ____/ ,,,/,,,/ (couldn't put the roof on the bottom piece sorry) do this: ____ ___//| ,,,,,,/ / (in the first one the entire square space is given to one segment, in the second it's given to the other and in the third it's distributed equally after being cut in half diagonally) this will also make 4 better, while also giving the desired affect on 5 and 6 without sacrificing much from 1. that serif you said only improves the original version of 2 and sacrifices a lot. but and moving the middle bar down and adding that first serif to the top left piece makes 2 abundantly clear as per the changes made above already, there's no need for this change. I believe we've pretty much created a perfect 5 segment display at this point with only flaws being the small 0 and there being a strange gap in the middle of 1,2,3 which looks perfectly ok with 1 because that is usually the case even with the normal 7 segment display 1; and surprisingly that gap also makes 3 cooler. only for 2 does that gap seem strange, and a 2 shaped like a Z is just too odd. another option is to let the top half of 1 "dig" into the segment below it almost halfway. this makes 5 and 6 a little strange but it doesn't affect their readability while making 1,2,3 less weirder. Also, a lot of interesting things happen if you turn the segments of 1 into a single continuous parabola that has a lot of curve in the top part that smoothly decreases as it goes into the end of the bottom part of the 1, you make it curve outwards into the left side. it makes 7 change it's style to the other well known form of 7, solves the problem of 2 looking like a Z, it also solves the problem with the bottom left part of six looking weird, makes 1 a little strange though but it's not that bad and makes the 4 and 9 look more like the hand written versions, you could make that top serif's inner corner round while you're at it too. oh and i also just realized you can make the bottom half of 1 share the corner space with the neighboring piece in the same way the top one does as i suggested above. this has not much added bonus other than making the 5 perfect and 1 a little more symmetric again with little sacrifice on 4 and 9. I've made a design based on some of the propositions discussed: ( redd. it/13nn4o0 ) (remove the space between the redd. and it/ for the link)

[@DavidSartor0]

@@hrishikeshaggrawal Thank you.

[@skan5728]

I made a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5S1io2FrqZsY80

[@drumm4173]

3:32 I think the 7 would be better displayed if you also lighted up the bottom right one

[@rizizum]

That would make it look the same as a 3

[@aylen7062]

Or rather only the bottom right line.

[@beaclaster]

@@aylen7062 that's 4

[@aylen7062]

@@beaclaster Fuck, you're right.

[@drumm4173]

@@rizizum you're right I didn't think of that :/

[@gl1tchygreml1n]

I really like these, they're how I imagine alarm clocks might look on other planets

[@theogA_Person]

This vid absolutely lives up to posy’s vid, simple and straightforward with clean visuals

[@adumbchicken8022]

I really liked your concept of a 4 segment display, using the curved lines really gives you a lot more room for creativity on how to display the numbers.

[@skan5728]

I made a 4 segment display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5S1io2FrqZsY80

[@jaceg810]

I personally think 5 segment A is actually quite readable and I find it to be great looking. Something about the way it bends and is at first glance so alien yet still readable makes it great to look at, that and it being symmetric in multiple ways.

[@ganondork7561]

sick music taste, cool displays too 🤩

[@notetomgaming6701]

As a person who has never existed, I find this mind blowing to me

[@VesaKo]

I once tried one for suits. My best is a five segment (depending on how far the same segments parts can be separated, as there are actually 7 segments but two pairs that light at the same time) which keeps everything looking very clean and almost the same size. The diamond has curved sides and appears as the bottom of the heart and the top of the spade. The curves exist to make the club look good, which shares 1(or 2) segments with the heart as well as a connecting segment to create a circle at its top. You could do fewer segments, but the scaling and shape reading would be muddied. Edit: Just thought up a way to make a two segment display for it... If you keep the middle segment (the diamond) as a painted region, it technically doesn't count as a segment. Then just accept that the club has four leaves.

[@areadenial2343]

No offense, but couldn't you just have 4 segments in the shape of each suit? For something so specialized, that seems like a better solution

[@VesaKo]

@@areadenial2343 Yeah, that's fair, it is definitely more practical. I didn't really think of it too hard, just wanted to give it a try in the same manner as with numbers

[@ReyndOut]

I made a 6-Segment display similar to design B of the 5-Segment Displays, but with the middle horizontal bar being split in the middle. Also, my segments had diagonal lines instead of horizontal lines on the edges.

[@SunshineAIC]

Those AIC arrangments are kinda really cool, I've never heard this type of midi-ish sounding style applied to that type of music.

[@eathamgamer]

Heck nah this is the goofiest music selection I've ever seen on a video. Nitrome must die, Mario 64 soundfont covers of songs? Tbh I'm here for it.

[@sgt_castor]

Since I saw Posy's video I'm looking for a good 4 segments display, a mathematically perfect display. I've tried to do one, and after multiple iterations I came up with a concept that honestly doesn't look bad, but it's still interesting to see other designs, maybe one day with all the power of designers we will get the best display

[@vylbird8014]

Four lights, that's all it takes. Let the user learn binary. It's not that hard. Slightly different shapes of lights for ease of reading.

[@sgt_castor]

We could use of course binary, but there's no point anymore. It's more interesting having number shaped digits than 4 LEDs

[@CompactStar]

I think the later iterations of lux fundred's 4 segment display are near optimal

[@ahrens1497]

I think it would be cool to see the numbers as just the on segments on a dark background, without the outline of the off segments, to really test readability, since most displays just keep a black background anyways.

[@icecubeviking]

my brother in christ, posy made me fall into this rabbit hole

[@jfawesome123]

I used to watch this channel when I was a kid! Glad he’s still around today!

[@Sb129]

It might sound weird but thinking about how we try to display our letters and numbers with a limited amount of segments on a fixed display somewhat helped me make my artificial languages. (for a book I am currently outlining) Also, this is one of the few KZbin videos I watched at 1x speed.

[@squeeeps]

Idk if I’m alone on this, but I was really irritated when the segments didn’t light up at the same time. For example when the big 7 on the left lit up, the small number 6 on the right would light up. I guess I just can’t pay attention properly, because I had to constantly rewind and pause to be like “that number looks totally wrong” only to realize I’ve been looking at the previous number. I hope my rambling is understandable

[@blakestoudt2131]

Very cool topic, something I had never really thought about before. And the music was fantastic!

[@Benny_Blue]

I feel like you could fix design 4-B by "accidentally" drawing 6 and 9 backwards. They'd still be perfectly readable, but 4 and 9 would no longer be duplicates.

[@ImNotPalmer]

Right around 2:20, was that Nirvana background music? It kind of sounded like it.

[@balloonboom5912]

Smells like teen spirit but with SM64 soundfront (Shazam)

[@ImNotPalmer]

@@balloonboom5912 noice

[@fallenflame8678]

Awesome concept and awesome music!

[@theaeye3767]

Amazing music choice for the video such a good song.

[@javierlatorre480]

2:52 The number 6 in that display should've lit the top diagonal segment instead of the top horizontal segment. That way it would more resemble the number 9 for the same display.

[@NickAndriadze]

Actually, your curved design showed a lot of promise. I think some of those segmented displays would've benefitted from using a curve or two as well, but the fact that they use none make them all the more impressive. Overall, really cool video.

[@10thletter40]

Thats a really well made 4 segment display at the end. All of them are decently readable!

[@FlowGD]

I only have the utmost respect for you for using a Nitrome soundtrack in this video, I instantly recognized it as being Nitrome when I heard it :D

[@Cutekittens4471]

2:32 difficult to display 047?

[@Mutant-Creeper_101]

It looks like ninja😂😂 3:36

[@bdot02]

The podcast "a problem squared" did an episode on researching the research that's gone into designs with fewer segments as well as soliciting listener submissions. It was quite interesting.

[@samueldeandrade8535]

This guy always makes simple but very interesting videos.

[@user-ne4sh1vt5g]

1:39 WOW

[@punpck]

4:30 klingon

[@kemopon7]

Love the music! Fun to recognize the songs

[@magnusskipton7067]

These are freakin awesome, and would look amazing in any number of sci fi settings

[@77xlhjm]

3:50 why does the 1 look so weird