Yes, I still use a landline.

[@surrealnumber8166]

Spoiler alert: This is not a true copper POTS landline. It’s VoIP. I refer to my phone system as a land line because, well… they’re phones. On land. With lines. Virtual lines, but they are lines nonetheless 🤷‍♂️

[@krantz55]

Millennial over here... I still have a copper landline. I took over my Grandparent's number when they passed away. This number has been in service for over 50 years. I also have my late granny's fax and cellphone number. Her cellphone number has been in service for about 35 years.

[@WhatALoadOfTosca]

You actually have a landline. The guy making the video doesn't.

[@surrealnumber8166]

@@krantz55 that’s incredible! Still carrying on the legacy ❤️

[@dankomancer]

@@WhatALoadOfTosca yea sounds like video creator has a VOIP service of sorts.

[@jackilynpyzocha662]

Baby Boomer!

[@GeekyGarden]

My dad just passed. I just cancelled my childhood phone number. That was a rough call to make.

[@zeighy]

I have a landline... though arguably it's VOIP. But close enough! Also technically, our landline provider has been providing "landline" service through VOIP anyway (since they switched to fibre and the competitor uses cable), so traditional landline service has been gone for a while in my area.

[@Daniel-it1dp]

Same here. We got to the point where a landline did not include long distance. This made the phone almost unusable since long distance included calling numbers in the same area code but just a city over which we have 3 cities within like 5 miles in every direction in the Austin, TX area.

[@ZenIsFluffy]

We lost a lot of convenience rolling everything to smartphones. Like you said Dedicated devices make a big difference. Couldn't agree more!

[@elixier33]

Mobile / cell phones are dedicated calling devices. It's their own fault if they can't Kate themselves on being distracted.

[@dafoex]

Agreed, especially for things like payment, too. I mean, reaching into your pocket to grab a fiver? Pah, it's clearly more convenient to grab your phone, unlock it, open one of a number of proprietary payment apps that don't communicate with each other, maybe log into that, find the person in your contacts, type in the amount of money, hit "personal payment" then "send" then "confirm", and finally say to the guy stood in front of you that you sent the money because cash is inconvenient.

[@ThalassTKynn]

I don't have a landline anymore, but I have been rediscovering the joy of single function devices. Particularly my minidisc walkman and my ereader. I've been resisting the urge to buy a proper camera for a while now lol (also a millennial here)

[@Diddz]

the sunglasses on the screen is the cherry on top

[@rgi9509]

Thought you meant POTS landline. Voip is pretty damn millennial.

[@dlarge6502]

Everything is VoIP and has been for years. The POTS service these days is just the last leg to the house, the whole thing behind the scenes has been fully digital for a long time.

[@rgi9509]

@@dlarge6502 Locally sourced artisanal small batch voip lovingly crafted at the CO.

[@pyoodiepie]

I would want POTS not VOIP. POTS is powered by the batteries in the central office. you arent left with no phonein a poweroutage

[@seniorchonkza997]

​@@pyoodiepiecell phones have their own batteries

[@lobbyhoe01]

@@seniorchonkza997 but most cell towers don’t

[@KaneHulen]

Howdy, Gen Z here! Believe it or not I’m still subscribed to landline service 😅

[@KaneHulen]

@kyqti it’s a payphone at a gas station down the highway

[@ethanklein8406]

Here here. Land line Gen Z-er here. Very few of us I'm sure, but you're not alone!

[@KaneHulen]

@@ethanklein8406 Oh nice! Are you a VoIP or POTS subscriber?

[@randomyt666]

​@@ethanklein8406My family pays for landline service. The modem/router does that over VoIP through NBN. The only reason we stopped leaving the phone plugged in was because of all the dodgy scam calls. I'm hoping to get my Cisco 8 port VoIP gateway online using the same sip as the modems

[@KaneHulen]

@kyqti I was just explaining the details of the phone. I’m not stupid

[@jaygreentree4394]

Working on getting my own voip line once I get things figured out in my new apartment.

[@mehr5821]

I’m Gen Z aged and I run a local and a remote freepbx node. It’s sick! There’s much much more that can be done with freepbx+asterisks (even in a docker container and if you can’t use the full OS version). SIP is also a worthwhile protocol to learn as well.

[@easyflamer]

What can be done with those?

[@funkmon]

I called ATT to get a phone line so I had phone service when power was out. They told me they no longer offer that service. I didn't believe them. I threw a fit. I talked to managers. Nope. It all goes through the fiber modem. I'm not pleased about it.

[@surrealnumber8166]

@@funkmon same situation with me. Only way to have it in my area is to be grandfathered in. It’s annoying because the wiring still exists from their distribution outside to my house, yet they refuse to activate it. Only useable through the broadband modem.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

@@surrealnumber8166 Not a problem here. Yes, it's all through the fibre, but we have a backup power supply in the event of a mains failure. Not that we've had more than a couple in the last 30 years.

[@MrObsvenchilde]

That sucks. I have a phone line from ATT but I'm pretty sure they are itching to get rid of us.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

@@surrealnumber8166 The reason for that is all copper infrastructure is being removed, a great deal of it is too old for viable repair given the ever-decreasing number of users. Certainly here in the UK, arrangements can be made for elderly or disabled users who do not need broadband, but it still has to be provided via the fibre infrastructure.

[@p0358]

In my country you still have the old telephone lines where available. You can still get a new service through them, but you pay an extra premium charge for “maintenance of the line” in the monthly bill. We ended up using VoIP as the current phone needs electrical power from outlet to run anyways and that’s much cheaper…

[@yuriythebest]

I personally don't have a landline BUT I totally get what you are coming from in terms of "Dedicated Devices", or "physical apps" as I like to call em: got a wristwatch so as not to be distracted by my phone when looking at the time, 2 notepads for writing things down instead of the "notepad" app (one for ephemeral tasks and one for "long term memory"), etc

[@adam44x13]

my house phone(s) are all Grandstream. it makes me feel better knowing I have something connected by a wire.

[@earlt911]

I still have a landline.. Working as a 911 Dispatcher a landline still sends us the FULL name and address of the caller. Cellular is at times a challenge to locate. Cell towers go out as well. I also have a Panasonic 6x16 hybrid phone system in my condo.

[@jackilynpyzocha662]

The landline comes in handy if the cell is out of juice!

[@phillipcoplen8051]

If only my windsteam landline goes out so often it’s mega dumb

[@jackilynpyzocha662]

@@phillipcoplen8051 Are ;you familiar with "Soylent Green" where Sol rides a bike hooksed up to a light bulb?!

[@michaelescamilla5385]

my parents are building there last retirement home in south texas thanks to some programs in texas they will be getting free to low income landline help and im making sure there's a phone in every bedroom and yes even in the bathrooms in case of emergency because yes it happens I've seen it

[@rosenclosed]

I recently moved back to my parents place (because German rental apartment market in big cities is outright crazy) and my dad looked at me weird when i unpacked my Mitel 6869i desk phone. I love it tho

[@arw2008]

I use a digital voice land line fine. The joys of full fibre.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

Same here, with a UPS for backup power.

[@Norstator]

This is my land line phone! I got it working with my OpenWRT Router running Asterisk. Two land line numbers. Dialout number is always the one with no costs. Works like charm. Even the HD-Codecs are supported and sound great. Pretty impressive for a 14 year old phone I paid only 10 Euros for. Another pro is its capability to run off PoE so you don't a seperate power supply. It is also available in white. Pros: speech quality, menu system, network features, big display, assignable buttons with mutiple levels, PoE capability Cons: boot up time, huge size, no multiple SIP-Accounts Another really nice phone you might want to take a peek at is the Yealink T23G.

[@knackrack615]

The OpenStage phones do support multiple SIP accounts, you just need to set them up as seperate BLF keys (and you will only have call history on the main account)

[@Norstator]

@@knackrack615 Thats good to know thanks! I'm going to try that!

[@barrygreenejr]

As a journalist, I can see a lot of value here. Just last week, I had a phone die mid-interview as I take so many. I can also see value in video conferencing as I take so many of them. Are you just off-screen when you dial in or is it a combo?

[@surrealnumber8166]

It’s a combo, so I leave my webcam running on the PC & all audio goes through the phone

[@o_gajo_da_polvora5043]

@@surrealnumber8166how did you get the audio routing working?

[@magesnz]

i don't have a landline anymore at home but i'm fully voip at home , i have a pbx at home and it works great

[@magesnz]

also personally i have 2 voip providers, one in new zealand with 2 lines and 2 lines on a canadian voip provider and they just work

[@minecraftrobloxgamer2_2010]

u ain't alone, i have a landline phone standing in my living room

[@JoeJ94611]

Regarding landline phones:my guess is scammers focus on people that have landlines because the elderly use them and the scammers have found the elderly are more likely to fall for their schemes.

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

I agree with the premise completely. Also, there are certain entities that do not deserve to know mobile numbers.

[@MickeyMishra]

I always wanted to set up a PBX system. Maybe one day I will for fun when I'm out and about seeing the world. Would be cool to install one of these open source boxes you mentioned.

[@scamdotnet336]

2007 Gen-Z here, my parents still have a landline, though it is going through the fiber box in the utility room, so technically VOIP. I honestly think it is kind of stupid like some other comment mentioned earlier that you cannot keep access to the copper telephone lines, despite having the wiring there (our house was built in the 70's and the cable for the phone line is still on the side of the house. I've yet to probe it to see if there's any power on it, i'm curious.) I'm actually doing a school research project (like long term, fairly serious) with a phone, of making a device that can hook up via a phone cable to any POTS phone, and serve as a central office, in the hopes of being able to call people on discord with it. Of course, this doesn't really serve much of a purpose, and is motivated by me thinking it's funny plus being interested in POTS stuff. Anyways, in terms of our actual phones, they are wireless ones, with a single dock in the master bedroom. My parents still have an old 2001 Northwestern bell phone, that I have been using for my project, but I am keeping in working order since it could come in handy during an emergency, as the fiber box is on a UPS. (this comment is a mess but I'm too tired to make it make more sense so whatever)

[@ZoomerNostalgia]

DankPods if he wasn't in upside down land

[@surrealnumber8166]

@@ZoomerNostalgia hahaha I could never live up to the standards of the God of Dank. Man is a legend

[@siloPIRATE]

He’d buy a landline made by Smasnug

[@aperson1181]

Can you please show us a walk-though, what equipment and the process?

[@Uncleharkinian]

great video cant wait to get my own place so i can do this, at this rate, im gonna be running a small rack with a PC for PBX, a tru-nas or hex-os build, maybe a plex. i agree with the ring sentiments so im partial to Lorex systems, dumb simple, great product! if i want a door latch of some sort, ill need a home assistant machine, somthing to drive my house wide sound system ive always dreamt of (which would be a entier set up of zones all driven by a audio server as well as a CD/BT and vinyl turn table) , and if i get to assemble all the antennas i want on the roof for recording and logging transmissions for personal enjoyment and work, ill need a dedicated SDR machine of some type as well! ill never understand how they think they could shove people like us into apartments.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

We have full fibre broadband here now, but we still use the landline numbers, albeit over VoIP.

[@MatteoMabesolani]

Hi, i have a landline too and I was born in 1998. I like to have it for safety reasons first, but when i am home i regularly use it to make and receive calls. It is a sip trunk on my PBX with 2 channels. I had PSTN till 2016, then VDSL arrived and POTS usage has decreased a lot here in Italy.

[@SaschaGriessmann]

I'm wondering how a german IP phone find it's way in the us 🤔 I also use them with the original head unit for my house. And I like them for the same reason you mentioned. Greetings from Germany

[@surrealnumber8166]

@@SaschaGriessmann ah interesting, do you have a HiPath unit or something like that? I’ve always wanted to experiment with one but I never could get my hands on it. And yes I wonder the same thing. I discovered these phones over 10 years ago when I was in college. My dormitory had these phones all over the place & I was intrigued enough to look them up and buy some for myself. They were surprisingly cheap, too Greetings from FL USA 👋🏼

[@felixman9691]

This is a cool video! Subscribed :) great attitude

[@joshuasprucie8933]

I’m a millennial as well and although I absolutely love my iPhone as a tech guy. Whenever I have to use my computer at the same time as being on the phone with a family member it can be a pain as I don’t have proper headphones with a good mic and hold the phone with my shoulder is awkward. I used to use a rotary dial telephone with a grand stream HT801 which worked well but I cancelled the service when I rarely used it. Now I’m in my own place I would love to have this phone on my desk as I used one in my old job and it was a pleasure to use even with a headset :)

[@sven]

98er here! i know this series of phones from the workplace i learned. they would all hoock into a deticated Siemens/Unify PBX. There are also variotns of that phone. With a larger extension board or with an Ethernet jack for full IP support.

[@ZT_1234]

Brings me back to the prank call days

[@JesusReyes-fh6wy]

I don’t know of very many IP phones that are accessible with voice guidance and the like. Is the PBX server something I could plug a regular phone into? By regular, I mean a standard corded phone, or even a cordless one? My current set up consists of an Ooma adapter, and a cordless base station with a few cordless phone extensions around the house. I would definitely like better control of which phones ring at what time.

[@surrealnumber8166]

Yes, it’s possible to connect a traditional analog telephone (corded or cordless) to a system like this. It requires having a FXS card on the PBX, or a POTS (VoIP to FXS) converter. Though, if you’re looking to achieve better control of choosing which phones ring and when, you would have to ditch the Ooma system entirely and replace it with cordless IP phones. Otherwise, you’d need a separate FXS converter for EVERY individual analog telephone in your environment. Not sure what you mean by voice guidance, can you elaborate?

[@captainchris2016]

Newer Cisco 8000 series phones have a voice guidance feature. Android based yealink phones have it too. Some poly phones might have it like the edge and ccx series?????????

[@JesusReyes-fh6wy]

@@surrealnumber8166 thanks for the info! I didn’t know cordless IP phones were a thing to begin with, so that could very well be what I go to if I ever end up making a system like this. In short, I am fully blind, so simply delving into menus simply to make a change like changing the ringer or the volume could be a little bit complicated. Made more complicated if I’m looking to do any kind of syncing with the server. I am comfortable looking up IP addresses and delving into Web interfaces though, but not sure how much can be done from a web interface, or how visual the page might be.

[@JesusReyes-fh6wy]

@@captainchris2016 i’ve heard of the Cisco phones, but the other one is new to me. Thanks so much for letting me know! If it is android based I’m not too surprised it might have a voice guidance feature since android does seem to have at least a basic screen reader built-in by default.

[@captainchris2016]

@@JesusReyes-fh6wy I believe the newer Cisco phones are Linux based. The screen reader does not have the best voice but they are there

[@enp82003]

Millinal here... Man how did the depression and anxiety of the world not get to you? You seem all set!

[@surrealnumber8166]

I’ll be honest, it did get to me years ago. It brought me to the lowest point in my entire life. But over the past 3 years, I found a career in programming commercial and residential AV/smart systems. I fell in love with it. It was stressful at first getting acclimated, but I always felt a spark of joy when I could see my programs work. The pay was ridiculously low, but the enjoyment kept my spirits up. Thankfully I’m now working at a company that pays me much better 🙏🏼

[@enp82003]

Good to hear! Gives me hope. Times are hard... I hit my low but trying to claw my way back... Life's hard but what is the other option right?

[@DatedRhyme]

The guys in the flat next to me at uni had this, they all had a desk phone on there desks in there bedrooms and they could intercom or push calls that came into the flat to the respective rooms, they were all music students so did there own hold music, it was kinda funny tbh

[@paulstubbs7678]

I still use one, however with the advent of fibre broadband my telco/isp upgraded it with a voip box (it's actually built into my router/access point), same number. Calls on it are now basically free, my wife can yak to her mum all day and nothing appears on the bill. I'm not running a business, so no fancy phone, just a few plain old phones. Yes I have a mobile, however the handset or my old POTS handset more fits my face than a flat sheet of glass that most mobile phones now are.

[@PhilXavierSierraJones]

Take my subscription!! Great video. Very amusing to watch.

[@surrealnumber8166]

@@PhilXavierSierraJones much appreciated 🙏🏼

[@BigDaddyTimberWolf]

I love landline and still use it, I have a voip phone also but need a new router so I can port it since xfinity sucks!

[@sealstech8087]

A truly sensible person making work work for them, love it. If you wanna try something new when the PBX goes down, check out the “talk” line from Ubiquiti. Its still free once you own the equipment in their ecosystem as long as youre not managing dozens of phones and numbers. The extended UI eco is big and you can combine network, access control, cameras and talk all work together. Also has video capabilities for other capable end users. Sweet video.

[@sealstech8087]

They also have analog tel converters for older fax phone and security lines. Can add dualpath failover to the whole network connected to a cell tower.

[@H3wastooshort]

I found one of those IP phones (SIEMENS OpenStage 20, the one with the smaller screen) at the recycling yard. It now lives at my local makerspace. I kinda despise its Web UI but other than that it works fine, even after rotting in a drawer for several years and who knows what else, but given that it's Siemens branded, it probably has been around for a while.

[@surrealnumber8166]

@@H3wastooshort ah nice. Yeah I agree about the web UI. But it makes sense, they probably didn’t focus on making their UI “nicer” because these were provisioned phones. But yeah as soon as I start to get SSL errors, that’s when I finally will retire these phones :/ I actually started out with 20s before I replaced them with 15s instead. The 20s are nice and all, but the lack of programmable hard keys makes it a bit confusing

[@H3wastooshort]

@@surrealnumber8166 i had to enable older TLS versions in the about:config page in firefox. I think mine will just be in service til it breaks which will probably be a while.

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

You should do a collaboration video with Technology Connections about these phones.

[@GeekyGarden]

I used to support a Cisco phone network. I appreciate the skills it gave me, but I hated it at the time.

[@brickviking667]

I wish I had copper, but here in this country (like many others, I suspect) the telcos are actively trying to decommission copper as fast as you can say Fibre. I had no choice in the matter, so I've got my Uniden phone plugged into the phone port of the fibre modem. It "works", but seems a bit scratchy occasionally. On another topic, could you do a video on how hard it is to purchase a landline phone where you are? I got "very lucky" as my requirements were "no batteries, no wireless". There were only two phones on our market at the time that fit that brief, both Uniden. Sigh. Oh, and I was born in 1967. Definitely not a millennial here.

[@WhatALoadOfTosca]

Bless. When millennials actually think this is a landline 😂

[@surrealnumber8166]

In my eyes it’s always going to be a landline. It’s a phone line & it lives on the land 🤷‍♂️ obviously it’s not a copper POTS line but hey good thing I’m posting this on KZbin and not Reddit 😂

[@vandorb12]

This isn't a landline... This is ADVANCED landline :)

[@aperson1181]

I am a Millenial also. I have all Ethernet connections on my PC. Love your contect, I wanted to migrate from GV but did not know how, or what.... What service provider do you use for VoIP?

[@bichela]

I have a Merlin Legend r7 system with a 408-mlx and a 408-atl card and 012 basic telephone with built in ring generator connected to POTS and a freePBX system running on a raspberry pi2. I run my own telephone exchange.

[@durpepsi]

In my country it's actually pretty common to still have landline even tho nobody really uses it lol

[@Michaeldunifin18]

I use a kind of equivalent (hope thats how its spelled) system, I use cisco IP Phones on CallManager

[@LidLockTV]

those openstage phones are soo sexy! they kind of remind me of the design language of nortel

[@gamagama69]

so how are you configuring this? do you need an rj11 nic on the server that u use for freepbx? does freepbx just have like an api key, or method to login with a provider? would like to see the setup!

[@maxdutiel]

10:55 the newer Cisco ip phones are easier to program, at least that is what I have heard. You have to get the MPP firmware though

[@plushifoxed]

i just got an old phone and an ooma telo box myself, i want to have fun messing around with landline stuff soon :D

[@dakingofcubes]

can it either run bad apple or doom?

[@jeopardy60611]

I prefer to use a landline for better sound quality. I run a voicemail system, and it's better to record messages using a landline than a cell phone.

[@diegogarciamedina6363]

copper line pots?

[@mashy712]

So this video is a year old already. Since it took awhile to upload?😂

[@surrealnumber8166]

@@mashy712 I’ll admit, it took me a while to understand the joke 😅

[@officialoofyt]

"hey. i am phone c:"

[@Shimmy02]

I love the wallpaper...

[@CoverageAwarenessStudio]

I still have a landline too!

[@joseprieto]

I got my hands on some Cisco 8841 and some other phones

[@surrealnumber8166]

@@joseprieto I’m curious to know how easy/difficult it is to integrate these phones with a SIP setup. My past experience with Cisco phones was using 7942/7962 models, & using them via SIP was a nightmare. Lol

[@joseprieto]

@@surrealnumber8166 it's terrible, but not the worst. You do still have to deal with the BS xml file

[@TestGearJunkie.]

@@surrealnumber8166 I use SPA508G phones with a SPA9000 PBX and it's a cinch. Plug a new phone into the system and it's configured automatically with the next free extension number. Granted the PBX itself was awkward to set up, but once that's done it doesn't have to be done again.

[@oroville12345]

You are not the only one bro I am in the same boat

[@dlarge6502]

Everyone uses a landline without realising it. They just call it broadband 😂 I mean IT'S THE SAME LINE 😂 I have my voice service still connected as although I rarely use it, I don't see why you wouldn't want to have a line to the place you actually live! I could go on about power cuts and stuff but I'll say that if I were to trip and whack my head, the last thing I'll be able to do in the most serious of injuries is crawl somehow upstairs to get my mobile, and then try and stab at the touch screen, which I might not be able to see if I have double vision or something. If I'm upstairs or downstairs I'm more likely to try and reach for the physical phone, not the software one, which has physical buttons that are big and beep. I can dial 999 in pitch blackness while not being able to see correctly. It's also great when calling businesses as they can sell that number all day as I'm not home much of the day so miss most of the scam calls 😂

[@UAVXP]

Hotkeys: exists

[@gman83090]

With my landline phone it doesn't cost anything because the government has something called the universal service obligation and as part of the universal service obligation Telstra has to provide free landline phones and Telstra payphones so my landline phone doesn't cost anything to you for international and local calls and national calls

[@hilo2-est3-elev]

Is it running on asterisk or freepbx?

[@BritishEngineer]

Gen Z here, hoping to get an ADSL landline.

[@VinnytotheK]

Landline =/= VoIP, no?

[@MisakaMikotoDesu]

Aren't landlines just VoIP now?

[@MoonlightEmbrace]

That's amazing and I'm glad it works for you as it's such a quality of life improvement but I need to constantly share my screen or see someone else's shared screen and send/receive text, all over Microsoft Teams so I'm stuck with Microsoft's bloated PWA crap. Sadly, I can't switch to a cheaper line.

[@MemeCho-j4o]

genz here i also use a land line. Richard stallman is the reason i don't own a cell phone.

[@dafoex]

If only Amstrad still made the e-Mailer

[@1-eye-willy]

i do most of the same shit too. thats why i have two smart phones. one has actual cell service and the work phone uses a "textnow" account and is a wifi phone. i guess its just a matter of preference, but for me its a matter of poverty, cheapness, frugality. my set up costs me virtually nothing, and im not tethered down to the wall😂

[@Thomas-yr9ln]

I still use a land line DSL Phone line.

[@Fluffysnowfox]

Every household in Germany has landline

[@AiOinc1]

VoIP isn't a landline. I think we are probably the same age, but I have a real copper POTS line.

[@TheBrettMizer]

Millennial here no landline but I do send faxes

[@Some_Waffle]

Here before you blow up ^^

[@s.m.mediaproductions5304]

I'm a millennial who still uses a landline! A 100 year old rotary phone!

[@theawesometeg219]

can you believe it? Reversi

[@Ian-ff2hz]

Amazon gladfully hands your ring footage to the police without your consent.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

Not if you don't have one..!

[@Lachlant1984]

Are those IP phones?

[@lisastade4992]

The only person I know who uses a landline is my aunt.who works as a diplomat for the dod. So I see why ww3 is always at risk every damn day. For some odd reason.

[@christhekid674]

I know people still uses landline phones I don’t I use a iPhone and I find landline phones really nice and common

[@MR.CHEESE_Baby_EcLiPs]

I use it too

[@davep7176]

You get a mic with a physical mute button

[@gamingforlive2150]

Honestly i preffer voip phones (mainly because we dont have landlines anymore here) but yea i totally get it Edit: you just said its voip ok didnt know that but i preffer more modern lookin ones still

[@pixeluser175]

No landline in this video.

[@ericonca]

That's not a landline phone though. It's a voip desk phone.

[@404invalid-user]

the us have it so easy with voip rates here the best deal i can find for unlimited minutes is £36 a month

[@isaacrundel4030]

me too

[@allanegleston4931]

i took over my moms old number . most ppl know it and i have analog dial phone incase the power goes out.

[@danielkingshott2659]

I'm not sure using a VOIP provider is using a landline.

[@surrealnumber8166]

@@danielkingshott2659 yeah this isn’t a true POTS landline. But at the end of the day, I’ll always call it a landline because A. it’s less confusing for some people and B. it’s the same idea of having dedicated hard-wired telephones in a home, only using newer technology ;)

[@Shock_Treatment]

​@@surrealnumber8166Except the fiber optic landlines don't provide power when the power goes out.

[@dlarge6502]

​@@Shock_Treatment that's why you need a small UPS.

[@TestGearJunkie.]

@@dlarge6502 I was just about to say that. We have a 3kVA one that powers all our computer equipment for long enough to shut it all down, once that's done it will keep the phone system going for a couple of hours. We've never had an outage longer than 20 minutes or so in the last 30 years, so I don't think we'll be without phone service any time soon.

[@20NewJourney23]

@@dlarge6502 if your Internet dies, so does your phone line

[@bharatmadho3742]

I still have landline :)

[@aperson1181]

That mini PC is pricy,m talk about affordable.

[@SlimbTheSlime]

Gen Z. I've got a VoIP phone with the intention of switching to copper lines for better fax quality.

[@HunterKleinTheHuntzman]

You just need to make sure you have enough bandwidth and minimal packet loss and fax over g.711 ulaw should work perfectly fine. I work on voice systems for large enterprises and hospitals and it's ALL VoIP now.

[@xKuhnt]

I have a wall phone and normal landline in my apartment.. im gen z