🎙"You Left WHY?!” DUMB REASONS FOR LEAVING (AND JOINING) A CHURCH |

[@charlesleywatt6123]

😂😂😂"I didn't ask for your judgment...I asked for your prayers"

[@ron_rawls]

The chemistry on this show is so great. And the topics are so insightful. Thank you guys. Well done.

[@darlenajackson5965]

The candid honesty is rich!! 😂 … Pastors are people too. Bless this Podcast🙏🏽

[@damitahodges5577]

Apostle Clack....sheep got teeth 😂😂😂😂😂😂 took me out!!!

[@MelaninRose]

It was so fast 😂😂😂

[@chescal82]

I knew I wasn’t the only one that heard that 😂😂

[@jasonrogers3507]

This conversation was a blessing!

[@charlesleywatt6123]

These conversational topics are so thought-provoking and necessary from all povs of "church"

[@oliviavcarter]

Bishop Jacobs has such a gentle heart. 😅😅😅😅 "Noooo Markk." Such a big brother. 😅😅😅😅God Be Praised. That is true. That would be out of spite. 😅😅😅God help us. Lol

[@Dsweetgurl23]

😂😂😂😂WORD❤

[@jsaintphard]

"a lot of gossipers hide under the cloak of intercession..." wow!

[@bigsjays86]

I have played for all of you except Pastor Brandon Clack when all of you came to California, and I have interacted with you all. You guys are great men of God and looking forward to seeing what God has for you. I have enjoyed listening to you guys as I deal with the fact that I am called to the ministry. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

[@Chris-pp2ef]

I have sat in a church for two years (not wanting to be there)… I couldn’t leave until God released me.

[@lovestarbucksgingerbreadco9142]

You all are halarious😂😂😂and anointed. Bishop Jacobs message “ I Don’t Know” OMG

[@javanwatson8024]

“God is defeateddd” 🎶 Bishop Brandon Jacobs

[@jeromejohnson5412]

😂😂😂

[@everythingalyb]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@relaxinginpeace1310]

😂😂😂😂

[@tatianadaniel3569]

And had a smile while singing it wrong😂😂😂

[@kate_Leann]

And was singing it hard lol

[@nianijones4611]

It’s strange to me how we preach “we are the church, the church is not a building,” but when we speak of church hurt we try to separate things. If a representative of the church legitimately hurt someone, that person has been hurt by the church. God is coming for a church.

[@jeromejohnson5412]

Okay we'll see it from this perspective. The church is the "body of Christ". The scriptures also say "Let this same mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus". So if we (the church) move like "Jesus" then you won't hurt anyone but help, those who claim to be in the church and hurt others are not of Christ but the devil, the scriptures say they never even knew God to begin with.

[@nianijones4611]

@@jeromejohnson5412 in a perfect world lol! Let’s talk about reality. There is no such thing moving through life and never offending or hurting someone else. People of faith are not perfect and “fall short of the glory of God…” if it were not so, your prominent biblical characters that were noted as men and women who loved God, we’re perfect in the sight of God, and/or were “after God’s own heart” never existed and the Bible is a lie!

[@jeromejohnson5412]

@@nianijones4611 The scriptures tell us to be perfect even as our father in heaven is perfect. Hurting someone because of malicious intent is a totally different scenario. Anyone who does such has stepped out of the will of God and is not representing Christ at THAT TIME. Regardless of your title or position in the church. For he that sins, is of THE DEVIL. Remember when Miriam (Moses' sister) spoke out against him, the Lord smote her with leprosy for I believe 7 days. And she was shut out from the camp. God even killed some of his own people for sinning. Sin disconnects you from God and you no longer represent him at that time.

[@nianijones4611]

@@jeromejohnson5412 with all due respect, you are not only responding to my statement out of context, you also sound like you are regurgitating information you heard and not diligently studied. It is very important to stay in context….but I’ll entertain. I never said in the moment the offender was operating in the spirit of God when they commit the act of offense, I said people that are truly representatives of the church are capable of offending. God does not turn off and on like we do and we are most certainly not perfect as He is…again context when it comes to the word is important. Many characters died in the Bible because they lied or sinned. There are also PLENTY that sinned, lived, and continued to be used by God. Name a book in the Bible that is named after a prophet, they sinned. Paul, Peter and the other apostles sinned WHILE ministering, operating in the 5 fold ministry, and representing the church. Good luck if you think otherwise! That would suggest saved people no longer need Jesus and that is a spirit of self righteousness, which according to the Bible God hates, and the spirit of Jezebel pastor Mark just mentioned and preached so eloquently about at AIM.

[@jeromejohnson5412]

@@nianijones4611 The apostle Paul himself said shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound....GOD FORBID. You have to come to a complete stop from your sinful ways, is God merciful YES, will he forgive you for sinning? YES, but Jesus himself even told the man he healed, Go and sin no more! You have to be perfect, and you can do it through the power of Christ whom will strengthen you. Perfect just means to obey ALL the commandments of God. Obey him in all things. Even if you fall, repent l, get it right AND DONT DO IT ANYMORE! Be perfect! And you are correct, Peter the APOSTLE did sin but how did Jesus address him? He said "get thee behind me SATAN". because Peter in that moment was a representative of the devil and not of God even though he was an apostle and disciple of Jesus. That's as far as I'll go. God bless you. And I pray God opens your understanding. Thank you for your time.

[@joemoore5312]

Thank you, Pastor Nathan Green. One experience with one person does not equate the whole church hurt you.

[@ladyconi1]

🙏🏽🙏🏽 Praying for all of those involved in toxic ministries. Break the tie and give direction for what’s next.

[@lanebingo]

36:53- 37:04 Bishop Jacob's Face throughout all of this LOLLL

[@quianaparker2741]

This ain’t New Zion Everywhere has me in tears! 😂😂😂

[@tylermcghawsr]

Hey YLC, in Bishop Jacobs’ commercial he’s saying his church starts at 12:30 “AM” .. that needs to be updated so peeps won’t get the wrong impression.

[@natashaj.4093]

Apostle Clack: ‘Sheep got teeth.’ I mean that part was super deep!

[@bishopericwrightsr.7962]

LOL, MY FAVORITE ONE IS "BISHOP MY SEASON IS UP." TRYING NOT TO LAUGH TOO LOUD!!!!! LOVE THIS PODCAST REAL PASTORS SHARING REAL ISSUES.

[@philw9787]

I pray for our leaders. 21st century saints so hard deal with. Saints we need lift up our leaders. Be a blessing not a hindrance. Saints hv remember, God church is a house of PRAYER!!!

[@s.o.gfamilyt.v.8659]

This is so healing for me! Thank you for having this conversation

[@bornbeautifultv]

This episode is particularly important in my opinion as you all brought up the importance of “the holiness of fellowship”. Please consider doing an episode to expound on just that!😮‍💨The ole’ saints knew each other on a deeper level back in the day OUTSIDE of the church. They called you, checked on you, made sure you are good and had your best interest at heart. Now a days, folks get to service, jump and shout and head right out the door when service is ova! REAL fellowship is having folks best interest at heart… 🗣️SAINTS!!! Check on y’all’s memba’s please!! Let them know you care!! 🙏🏾

[@theartistpatreecedade]

This is hilarious!!! Bishop Jacobs is my cousin's pastor!!!! Pastor Nathaniel Greene. Texas in the Houz!!!! And we love us some Elder Mark Moore! here too! I really am blessed by his ministry, singing and worship team.....O God Antwuan Cooks, Janae Jones!!

[@traceydenisescott]

I absolutely love this! The fact that these guys are so real, sharing some of their own experiences really helps. Not only that, but this shows that the bogus reasons that people leave churches are all around. I’m so familiar with these reasons. This is so helpful for healing, because many times we find ourselves blaming ourselves. Thanks for sharing as well as for such transparency!

[@kayshaaustin4839]

When I tell you these conversations are needed!!

[@francineallen6722]

I love how u all keep each other accountable. My GOD continue to bless u and keep u is my prayer. This conversation is on point and convicting. Thank u God for confirmation.

[@atvcbt]

God Bless these Pastors!!! Truly admire and praying their for them, their families and the ministries they serve!

[@pastorterrelllewis5327]

I thank God for the Church which played a power part of saving my life with the continued Word of God preached!! Thank God for all those that have taught me and have gone on into glory

[@Addisondad55]

Apostle Clack makes a very good point on attendance.

[@andreascutellaro]

Sometimes the Pastor doesn’t even know it’s happening until the person has had enough and leave

[@philw9787]

Leader hv to pastor entire church, not one person

[@coreynimons4987]

Grace and Peace!!!! Rev. Corey Nimons, all the way from Columbia South Carolina!!!!! Ready to hear what my brothers have for us tonight!!!!

[@andredove486]

I stumbled upon this podcast #preachertalk and it blessed my socks off. As the lead pastor of my church, I have dealt with a number of things mentioned on this podcast...Thank you Thank you Thank you. It is great to have some leaders you can identify with. May God bless you all. Pastor Andre Dove

[@FragologistDre]

Sheeeesh! Yea this convo gonna trigger somebody 😬 I’m ready !!!!

[@tondrajackson8668]

This is was an awesome, insightful necessary conversation. Well done Men of God. Thank you Bishop Jacob's for the difference between world and spiritual mindset #lovealltheseministries.

[@raygrant1480]

I love the podcast. There is so much I am learning on this side of the podcasts! Please don’t stop!! Love you guys! Prayers for you always.

[@charmaynewilson4214]

The representation of multiple sides is valuable.

[@jannetcooksey9758]

Pastor Mark, so transparent of you to share about them two particular individuals 🤣🤣 yes man of God, you in fact were cheesing hard! 😃😃😃 so human!! ❤️❤️

[@MelCJ]

I love this!!! Just listening to and laughing at this conversation is healing.

[@thomassimmons7385]

I Love this Forum, Thank You!

[@Lifesessionstdy]

Bishop Jacob’s face is everything 😂

[@rburton5731]

This podcast is informative and funny and the same time. This is good ground.

[@YLCTV]

Much appreciated!

[@ladydean87]

Omgee! I have that book! It was literally advised by our teacher. It is good so far.

[@justincook2028]

I love Jacobs 🤣🤣 Him and Mark funny!!! All of you guys are comedians

[@philemonjohnson344]

Man, this was good. Thank you leaders for having this conversation.

[@janessamalone4668]

Thank you Lord for protection and a covering that protects

[@williams13man]

I need a “you know your church a cult if…” sermon/podcast

[@brentq.johnson578]

34:29 Tell it Pastor Mark Jr. 40:52 The shade of that was thrown🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 47:23 SING PASTOR GREEN!!!!

[@monicalouis8333]

I traveled to different churches as an Army wife and one pastor expressed how his family felt when they become friends with the members and the Pastor becomes used to that family and they leave. It became so painful that they built a wall up and stopped letting people get too close to protect their feelings. I had never thought of it that way, especially in a very small church.

[@shirleymoore3366]

This is going to be GREAT👏

[@Tubbsmuzik]

Great topic and great sharing. Great job by all. Keep on keeping on.

[@YLCTV]

Thank you! Will do!

[@yolandawood3435]

This is such a great conversation

[@1petgor]

Great discussion. As always i love the chemistry. This was a very helpful conversation and much needed

[@YLCTV]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@clarencecornish3333]

Praise The Lord My Lord Brothers Like Every Monday Y’all Platform Is Very Empowering Having A Heart Of Christ And A Heart For The People To Live And Not Die Spiritually Is Hard Because Good Leaders Really Pour Into The People So No Matter How They Come And How They Go Make Sure That They Are Feed But We Have To Protect Our Emotions And Speak To Ourselves And Say I’m Just A Servant Sent By My Father To Prepare Meals For His People And When We Understand That We Accept That People Come And People Go I Love Y’all In Jesus Name

[@adeliajohnson5765]

Ready!!!! This is going to be good!!!

[@flourishingwithvicki8682]

I mean goodness. My friend and I were just talking about small groups and fellowship today. This brings so much confirmation

[@kdog662002]

A Tale of Three Kings is a must read - at least annually. I agree.

[@oliviasimmons8069]

Hi Family! Shared from NC!!! I cannot wait for tonight’s episode of #PreacherTalk

[@reecee_pie340]

Is it just me or is anybody else vibing to the music that plays during the brief interruption when they introduce their church?😂❤ 🎶 The convo is great too!!!! Sad this is a reality though 😢

[@bornbeautifultv]

Yes, the background music is 🔥 I need a whole song 😂

[@poppeye03]

Such a necessary conversation

[@louisthomas9791]

Men yall have said some real n deep things n all right. Wish yall could come to my city n get with some of these leaders on all yall just talk bout. Its going on right now😢

[@philw9787]

Learn so much, human side of yall is awesome!!

[@tayjacksonjackson9916]

We must learn to follow first.

[@tdrobinson90]

“I hope your glasses fog up eternally!” 😂😂😂

[@FaithfulWisdom-kt2hk]

Excellent topic again!!!

[@SteelsLoungeNetwork]

36:00 lol i asked for your prayers not your judgement 😂😂

[@tarahyde4080]

Amazing content!

[@bordenministries6737]

My dad (bishop Stukes) would say,'if you act out in public your whippin' is coming in public"

[@tiaparkerbecomingherwomens7234]

I love this Pod!!!!

[@Mytruth704]

This is HELPING ME ❤

[@GB2GMusic]

Very interesting conversation gentlemen.

[@chasityhattley5862]

“Youre the new bobby jones gospel” facts ALL the way in TX. 730AM EVERY Sunday while getting ready for service

[@murae22]

This is soooo good!

[@shalondaflowers5584]

Yes LORD! Amen!

[@Tharealgwynthe]

31:11 this is one reason why I left the church. Double death in the family and no one reached out. No support system. It was so hard. I left the chat and never looked back. But if I had been there for years it would have been a fellowship. I needed someone but since they didn't know me I got nothing.

[@Tharealgwynthe]

@sunnydays6237 I left that church. When I say no one knew me I mean they knew of me but it was hard to hold a convo with anyone else in the church other than the single mothers since I was one. It's felt like since I was the new kid on the block we had nothing to talk about. Also I did bring it to the Pastor about the double death. No one called, reached out, offered services anything. Maybe I was expecting too much. But from the church I pay tithes and attend faithfully I expect something rather than nothing.

[@JabbarBranch-yp4zf]

This is awesome conversation thank you guys

[@shirleymoore3366]

So excited👏👏👏

[@thomassimmons7385]

Real Good Disscussion

[@troyyoung1585]

Thank you!!! I personally needed this!!!

[@YLCTV]

Glad it was helpful!

[@sandraashburn7087]

I truly enjoyed this

[@jsaintphard]

the way they throw bishop Younger under the bus almost every episode got me laughing so hard 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@atvcbt]

I'm late responding, but Pastors you're on it!!!

[@oliviasimmons8069]

THIS CONVO is so on 🎯🔥🔥

[@MsTFT]

Happy Birthday Pastor Green!!!!

[@bcrhkk6683]

God Bless! Remember, these opinions are their opinions! Let God speak to you thru His Word! His Word has all the answers ! Spend time with God and He will guide you! Listen to His Word for your life!

[@MsTFT]

Thank you Jesus!!! Bless them God!!!

[@oliviasimmons8069]

Y’all are starting on 1000 already!! 😂😂

[@trey89jj]

Omg this is TIGHT but so true 💯

[@MsTFT]

This was NEEDED!!!!

[@shirleymoore3366]

Talking Good, thank you!!!

[@kkakakah6750]

This is deep

[@sheilapalmer9085]

Yes you can leave your church, but their heart is somewhere else. ⚖️

[@josephdavis7638]

Good stuff!!

[@Songtress83]

This is good!

[@gibinal116]

I love these discussions. I truly do. The only thing I didn’t like about this discussion is that everyone assumes a woman is after the Pastor….Im hoping we progress to a new narrative. ❤ SN: starbucks give the brothers an endorsement 😊🤣

[@astridbrown1290]

That’s Good ( He made her who she was ; because He didn’t know who He was ) Jesussssss !

[@kate_Leann]

He said “such a sweet name” 😂😂

[@francineallen6722]

Speak the Truth

[@KeithBSII]

Can we get more shots with all 4 of them on screen to see more reactions lol.

[@astridbrown1290]

A little leaven leavened the whole lump ( fellowship = fellows in the ship ) with common ground, sense , knowledge, understanding Wisdom, morality, purpose and goals … !