YNGWIE VS Pantera, Yngwie about the donut story, Dimebag and Pantera

This is my new review on why Yngwie Malmsteen didn't accept donuts from Pantera's guitarist Dimebag Darrell in 1990.

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

Hey guys, here are the links: Player's Pick Podcast - full interview with Yngwie - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4mXiKxoo5xpi5Ysi=x46-xKsZSdfodXQj Dimebag's 1990 video clip - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnewqoGHgLp7b7csi=iBisC0Ka3DcW0jCn Phil Anselmo about Dimebag meeting Yngwie - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn6Xd4WEg62YgZosi=Yo_yqY5rn6ZpRmUG

[@user-iq6cc3df3l]

“Do NOT give Yngwie donuts! Know why? Donuts cause sticky fingers, then Yngwie can’t play 100 notes per second after eating donuts! And Yngwie is greatest guitarist ever!” (Yngwie speaking in third person like “The Jimmy” on Seinfeld.)

[@tonyahollen6133]

Lmao

[@LupoDog]

USE YOUR PICKING HAND!!!!

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

The prophecy says every chat be filleth with Yngwie hating trolls. 😂

[@sconni666]

If I had a girl under each arm and a eight ball in my pocket, I wouldn’t want to donut neither

[@VinCostanza]

I’d risk it all for a donut

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

Yeah Yngwie was going to his hotel room with two girls while Patera kids were playing around with donuts

[@sconni666]

@@guitarherocallahan3510 pretty much

[@MichaelDouglasSkewes]

Either , not Neither!

[@sconni666]

@@MichaelDouglasSkewes I blame spell check and laziness.

[@vincentgarzoli3197]

As much as I love Yngwie, and was inspired by him in the mid-1980s, I disagree with the notion that his ego had been unfairly criticized in the media back then. First, he didn’t always respond well in interviews, especially when he encountered certain colloquialisms in the English language that he didn’t fully understand. To be charitable, I think some interviewers could have considered that English was not his first language and sought clarification of some his statements that initially came off as arrogant. Yngwie, himself, had built a kind of self-protective armor around his mindset growing up in Sweden as a result of blazing his own path musically in an otherwise conformist society. This made him prone to being dismissive of things that conflicted with his musical goals, so he would purposefully disregard other guitar players and metal music. It needs to be remembered that he became famous during the height of the big rock star period, and for better or worse, he played out the stereotype (and in many ways still does) to the hilt. The other thing that notoriously went with that time period, of course, was cocaine use, and Yngwie was known to partake…What happens when you mix a Rock Star Ego with Cocaine??? You get a Gigantic A$$h@le!! I have also believed for many years that the brain trauma he suffered when he crashed his Jaguar into a tree in the late-80s possibly left him with CTE. I believe it has affected his music as well as his behavior beyond the notorious Yngwie is God persona. That said, he seems to have mellowed/matured with age on a personal level, being much more considerate and open with interviewers, even making up with Steve Rosen, whom he had famously pissed off back in the day. Overall, I view Malmsteen as an important, though tragic figure in music history. I wonder what people would say about him and his music had he died in that car wreck, instead of survived and gone on to make music that has rarely measured up to his pre-accident output??? Would he have been placed on a pedestal like a Hendrix or Rhoads??? We’ll never know.

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

Nobody played like Yngwie before Yngwie. He's one of the biggest game changers. Like George Lynch said, "Everybody wanted to be Eddie. Just like later everybody wanted to be Yngwie". Of course Yngwie is known mostly among musicians and guitar players.

[@VincePalamaraJFK]

Good comment, and I definitely think you have a point about what his status would be had he sadly passed in June 1987, but I disagree that his post-1987 output was subpar. In addition to Odyssey, Eclipse, Fire & Ice, The Seventh Sign and, to a lesser extent, Magnum Opus, Facing The Animal and Alchemy, WHAT ABOUT BOTH THE STUDIO AND LIVE VERSIONS OF HIS CONCERTO FOR GUITAR AND ORCHESTRA? I concede that his post-1999 material has been very uneven, but his 1988-1999 output was stellar.

[@vincentgarzoli3197]

@@VincePalamaraJFK Hey, Vin! Thanks for the reply. I watch your channel as well. Oh, he has certainly done some really good things post-crash, but I think it can be confidently stated that the bulk of his signature came before that fateful night. Other than the Concerto, and the volume of things he had written as a teenager in Sweden that found their way into Odyssey and Eclipse, he has become a different player (to my ear). He didn’t seem compelled to fill every space the he has evolved. And, yes, Fire and Ice could be described as a very solid flash of younger Yngwie. Again, just my opinion, but that is arguably his best commercial effort, and it did come after the accident. A part of me wishes he had abandoned rock and continued creating repertoire for classical orchestra and electric guitar. I think he still has a lot to offer there, but perhaps his self-description as a rocker first in the Beato interview explains why he hasn’t pursued that niche further.

[@sole__doubt]

@@VincePalamaraJFK I just watched your video with Mark Groubert the other day about JFK, excellent content. I love how level headed you are about the JFK stuff. Its awesome to see you also like Yngwie. We'd have a lot to talk about.

[@sole__doubt]

I never understood why anyone cares if he's a nice guy or not. His playing is so incredible he can do whatever he wants. Its not like any of us are hanging out with the guy so again it doesnt matter and yet its what most people talk about.

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

As we age, many of us gain weight. It's natural. Later on, Dime looked over-weight too.

[@cadaverkev]

I've notice as the years passed, he has toned down the ego. I've watch several, more recent videos, and he seems to be a pretty cool and normal guy. Age has a way of doing that to you. Or it could be he realizes his fan base is a little more streamlined, so why piss that off.

[@PaulC39]

A lot of miles about Yngwie not liking donuts from Dimebag Darrel. Yngwie not having feeling playing guitar or soul. Untrue.

[@rafuxec]

Kirk does suck though, he is only in metallica cause he keeps his mouth shut while lars and james run businness

[@LPWSzzz]

Dime was known for trolling ppl but also being really cool at the same time so I think if malm would have laughed it off and just talked to dime for a second about guitar it would have been a classic but malm seemed like he was busy being a glam Rockstar

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

You see, it wasn't a friendly situation. They were intentionally annoying Yngwie to drive him mad. Yngwie was with two girls. The kids were making fun of him. If Yngwie had laughed it off, it would have been looked stupid. Yngwie had to get rid off them as quick as possible and he did it. So they just stayed there with their donuts.

[@russellspear6188]

@@karsguitarchannel6088 That was smart. Unfortunately, we're living in an age that is anti-competency and anti-efficacy, so you'll have many readers who will identify with the punks making fun of a legend, thinking it's cool to act like dirtbags. Yngwie had better things to do than be part of their homemade porn or whatever it was supposed to be. I don't know how a grown man got his dick inside of a donut hole, but I really don't want to know.

[@damfunk.]

😂😂 Some people just can’t take a joke. Yngwie has only himself to blame for the way he is perceived.

[@sole__doubt]

I perceive him as the greatest living guitar player.

[@russellspear6188]

I perceive Yngwie as a musical giant...because he is. The only guitarist of the 80s who was more influential was EVH and even there there's room for some debate.

[@JunkyardHog]

Never heard of her…

[@vegarseljenes]

Yngwie sure looks like a man that knows his Donuts 😏

[@TheEWFX29]

So did dimebag.

[@Diggerdog2nd]

Yngwie was gaining weight back then & I'm sure he took offence to these guys fucking with him because he's fat It's common if you're trying to insult someone who's got some extra weight on them to say (eat another donut) even if you personally don't have any donuts on you like Dime did. Dime had a crazy fun sense of humor.

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

As we age, many of us gain weight. It's natural. Later on, Dime looked over-weight too.

[@user-iq6cc3df3l]

This video jogged a really stupid memory. 30 years ago I used to work with these guys who, instead of saying, “Nothing!” would say, “Donut!” presumably because a donut looks like a zero evidently. Anyways I played along. But I created this saying where I’d walk up to somebody and say, really nicely like I cared, “You know what I like about you?” And when the person would respond, “What? That’s so nice!” I’d say, “Donut.” It became a really stupid running gag. I think this is what angered Yngwie the Magnificent.

[@chrisw5742]

nope

[@roarzilla]

Wait, that was yngxie??!! Wtf

[@johnmcminn9455]

They ask Yng a question and he gives them a real answer . He is usually listening to the phrasing tuning and intonation of guitar solos aside from what he says about the riffs and rhythm. If you listen to i am a viking guitar solo and just sight his phrasing with out the fast playing you can say that is great phrasing .

[@richardsmith7322]

Yngwie is such a stuck up guy with an ego that makes the song Walk sound like it was written for him 😂 God man I just love Pantera 4 guys that are very special to me. Pantera is the one band that actually gets me through so much and that goes for the whole crew as well. The most humble, funny, real ass people that no other band can make me feel Dime Vinny Phil & Rex are highly important to my life in more ways than one. I just want to thank the Pantera family for making the celebration tour a reality. Phil said that we were the best crowd of the whole tour so far when they came to NH and with all the diehards that were at that show made it known we wanted that show more than life! Me and my brother went just us and it is still the best day of my life. That’s a Hard Fact! 💯🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 get ya pull

[@tonyahollen6133]

Yeah or they should've called it "Fuck**g Hostile Donut haters " getcha pull🤘🏻

[@blackwrits]

I hope this comment is a joke

[@tristanrl1940]

To an extent: D Bag’s lead playing was certainly Yngwie inspired - egos notwithstanding. Perhaps Yngwie would not have easily resisted if the offer had been a pot of Swedish meatballs, instead

[@RichGtr1]

You spelled Eddie Van Halen wrong.

[@blakkno666]

Yngwie inspired? Nah, sorry, I don't hear it. Roads, van halen etc yes.. YM, no....

[@JunkyardHog]

I’m sure he loves the balls 🤣

[@tonyahollen6133]

His description of Dimes playing screams how invalid he started feeling....OF COURSE Phil and Dime behaved that way its who they were. Even if you don't dig Dimes style then you at least have to admit he's been extremely influential as well...maybe just as much as donut haters?

[@JunkyardHog]

More inspirational, more relevant and respected.

[@mickmrowan]

So, Yngwie is fucking hostile?

[@THESESSIONROOM]

I don't eat donits!!😂

[@jasonzajac1819]

I was with DD. I know why they kept it up

[@johnmartin60515]

Yngwie knows donuts

[@romeo8334]

It's the rock world, no one really cares about yesterday, the sadest part is that its the past and gone for ever .

[@blakkno666]

The way I heard it years ago, Dime and a couple of people saw Yngwie talking to and treating the girls badly so Dime decided to fuck with him

[@brunovallesmunoz4757]

Entombed's Wolverine blues > Everything from Yngwie since Magnum opus

[@jsebastian9547]

I never heard the story, but the moment I saw the title, I knew someone was going to have a donut on their weiner. It's Pantera we're talking about...

[@russellspear6188]

Donut holes are relatively small. I don't see how it would fit...and I don't want to either!

[@retard_of_astora8648]

Classic dime W

[@davidstream_therapy]

Fr fr, playa. F these Ywngie losers! PANTERA RIFFS 4 DA WIN!!! + luv James Hetfield?!

[@theshilstoneband]

Yngwie is amazing!

[@davidstream_therapy]

Pantera rulez u drools

[@scottwhite2757]

Excellent Kar.. Thx Shawn. ✌️

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

Big thanks Scott! Have an awesome day!!

[@hotrod8915]

Yngwie really wanted that donut

[@ericbrewer2409]

You keep saying, "very underage." You better hope Yngwie doent see your video and sue you.

[@capnzilog]

There's no need to overanalyze this. Yngwie had put on weight during the "Fire & Ice" era and Dimebag, who was playing the same festival, laid a trap to troll Yngwie who walked right into it. Presented with a non-sequitur, Yngwie sensed he was being mocked and reacted accordingly. Also, it must be said that the two girls he was with were absolute stunners so props to Yng.

[@timothyvonvictory7105]

Pantera bullied yngwie lol awesome

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

Yes they tried but Yngwie just went 'Get out of my way!' and he didn't even notice them. They were acting childish really.

[@timothyvonvictory7105]

@@karsguitarchannel6088 oh he noticed them

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

@@timothyvonvictory7105 I mean he don't even remember the incident. He didn't care. And in the end he's right. They were too skinny to scare anybody.

[@bartrobinson2103]

Drug head dine bag

[@timothyvonvictory7105]

@@karsguitarchannel6088 he remembers

[@maloosecat123]

oh so the Donut was about the calories...lol!

[@richardsmith7322]

Dime was the best player that braced the earth nobody can argue this and what band ever got better and better with every album that came out!a Pantera is more important than a lot of people think and to have the personalities they had was one of a kind

[@keitha.563]

Absolutely agree 💯👍🏼

[@Tedanson]

Dimebag doesn't get the credit he deserves compared to the 80's players that blew up a bit before him

[@protoolsfanatic7276]

All the old shredders,Tim Henson and new shredders can't hold a candle to the Beatles, nirvana, eagles, rolling stones ect. Less really is more.

[@blackwrits]

NIRVANA = LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR

[@yoonhur4701]

It’s not what you say or offer, it’s about how it’s done.

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

Spot on!

[@image30p]

Yeah Pantera was pretty obnoxious. And yngwie was also obnoxious. Alcohol 😢

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

Yngwie was their idol but they couldn't achieve his level and obviously they hated him for that.

[@fuckitweball77]

Obnoxious my ass, they liked playing pranks yeah, on Machine Head, on Prong, on White Zombie, on Type O Negative. But it was always in good faith, Malmsteen just didnt react well is all.

[@ShawnStaplesFreeGuitarLessons]

Dimebag would enter guitar playing contests when he was young and won every one so the judges decided to make him a judge as to let others win.

[@davidstream_therapy]

Thems Facts. Best Guitar Player Ever. (Bar: James Mothafuckin Hetfield.)

[@Canuplease1974]

I never liked Yngwie. He always seemed like he was so far up his own ass, he couldn't possibly be aware of anything other than his own music.

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

Great stuff, thanx!!

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

Many thanks! Much appreciated

[@seshimct]

yngwie was Al long before today

[@djskootr13]

The fact you keep bringing up Yngwie had underage groupies with him like it’s no big deal is fucking weird man. A donut is nothing compared to assuming he’s going up to his room to do things with teens.

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

Well I agree, it does look weird.

[@LicksoftheLegend]

😂 thank god someone said it! I was like wtf is going on this video is saying he’s sensitive about his weight well completely ignoring how gross him taking underage girls to his room is haha

[@Re-Todd_Howard]

@@LicksoftheLegendthe issue is the assumption they were underage. One of the women he had with him was his wife Amber Dawn Malmsteen, who definitely wasn’t underage. No idea why people just assume things like this.

[@LicksoftheLegend]

@@Re-Todd_Howardexcept she was 17 in 1992 man and this was 90 so how does your statement make any sense.

[@Re-Todd_Howard]

@@LicksoftheLegend how’d she get married if she’s underaged? I’m genuinely asking, I guess my logic was if he’s with his wife he’s not with an underage woman, because this is the United States. Im open to being corrected on this.

[@fatmasglobal]

No means no.

[@waffle2881]

It's a donut not sex lol 😂

[@Kaprije1]

yngwie is too defensive remembering nothing not even knowing them... O my. What do this guys have on him?

[@Chris-mq2dt]

I could see how yngwie didn't remember anything as he took coke at the time.

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

Yngwie met kids like Pantera guys everyday. He wouldn't remember. Yngwie was their idol but they couldn't play like him and this is why they hated him for that.

[@Kaprije1]

@@guitarherocallahan3510 well he did tur with them so I dont think he didnt know who they are.

[@JasonCGuitarOfficial]

LOL the amount of speculation in this is amazing. From someone that was there when it happened .... please stick to the facts.

[@johncoffey3672]

Seems like Pantera was joking and he got piissy whatever

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

They were intentionally annoying Yngwie to drive him mad. Yngwie was with two girls. The kids were making fun of him. If Yngwie had laughed it off, it would have been looked stupid. Yngwie had to get rid off them as quick as possible and he did it. So they just stayed there with their donuts.

[@Jeffmetal42]

I just discovered Yngwie is playing at my local club in Austin in November. I really want to go toss donuts at him. I probably won't tho, don't want to mess up my good standing w the venue.

[@1000poundsguitar]

Pantera > Yngwie by miles

[@blackwrits]

If you have bad taste, sure

[@simonnorgren2911]

@@blackwrits There would be contention if he was talking about the true iteration of Pantera

[@davidstream_therapy]

@@simonnorgren2911 You prob yo-yo hard dookie outta ya butt, playa. Dimebag is where it's at, unless you can't see.

[@Ibaneddie76]

Why do you keep saying Yngwie had 2 underaged girls with him? That's a serious allegation you better have your facts correct and be able to vet that bit of info before you slander another man on the internet! Love you Dime and Vinnie!

[@John-so4fq]

This is intriguing but ultimately very pointless trivia which will end in nothing.

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

Paul Gilbert also mocked Yngwie's weight at one point. It's not good mocking somebody's weight. Many of us gain some extra weight while getting older.

[@ssteacup]

Tbh i didnt like many of Dimes solos.

[@davidstream_therapy]

Pantera rulez u drools

[@biorythmicshifter]

All due respect but Dime was an obnoxious drunk…I’m sure that wouldn’t bode well for anyone about to get laid. Malmsteen was right on about Dime’s playing, he’s a good riffer but mediocre on lead. Definitely not in the same league as Malmsteen according to my ears as a fellow player.

[@someonehadtosayit2566]

They were underage kids…

[@bartrobinson2103]

What a bunch of weirdo's

[@mikemorgan548]

Ridiculous waste of time, but funny

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

I think when Phil Anselmo talked trash about Yngwie, looks like he was talking about his own insecurities.

[@rumpoleonthehilloldchap6528]

lol you told him

[@christopherm.townsend4990]

Sure buddy.

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

They all wanted to play like Yngwie but they couldn't. They hated him for that

[@getwhatyougive]

@@guitarherocallahan3510LOL I don’t think Dime gave a fuck about playing like Yngwie. That would be like hating Hendrix or Eddie; Yngwie is on his own level. Goofy

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

@@getwhatyougive I'm sure when Dimebag was a kid, he wanted to play like Yngwie. Kirk Hammett wanted to play like Yngwie. But they couldn't. Yngwie was too pompous, so they started making fun of him.

[@waffle2881]

Malmstean is a snob who can't take a joke lol

[@usertube140]

I wouldn't want to so much as smell Pantera than take their food.

[@christopherm.townsend4990]

Loser.

[@lukeknutson3191]

and they wouldnt want to give you their food either especially after your face in yngwies asshole.

[@someonehadtosayit2566]

I never knew Malmsteen was a child predator. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised since nearly all those glam guys likely were.

[@blackwrits]

Yngwie wasn't part of the glam scene. Ironically, Pantera were.

[@someonehadtosayit2566]

@@blackwrits and you’re only concern about my comment is wether he was glam or not lmao

[@blackwrits]

@@someonehadtosayit2566 Considering how many musicians and celebrities are actual pedophiles I'm not really shocked. Considering those girls never pressed charges I highly doubt they were actually underage anyway.

[@karsguitarchannel6088]

Never fall for cheap provocations

[@russellspear6188]

If Yngwie didn't have the ego he has, he never would have become as great as he became. Anyone who makes it to the very top of an ultra-competitive field. whether it's Yngwie, Evel Knievel or Muhammad Ali (I am the greatest! I am the greatest of all times!) had damn well better have an ego.

[@metalpalace]

Malmsteen plays without Soul or passion? That's the dumbest thing Phil has ever said

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

What did Dimebag do so special to be named the greatest? He was good while Yngwie is a guitar prodigy, a legend, a gamechanger!!!

[@timothyvonvictory7105]

So was dime buddy. Both are incredible

[@bartrobinson2103]

🤣🤣🤣

[@bartrobinson2103]

Junkies

[@timothyvonvictory7105]

yngwie had his substance abuse issues @@bartrobinson2103

[@Chris-mq2dt]

​@@timothyvonvictory7105 yngwie changed the game when he came in the 80s he introduced the shredder stuff.

[@love68]

😂Fk Yngwie. Little dk issues. 🤘🔥🤘🇺🇸🤠

[@johnhedges230]

You're the expert 😂

[@johnbailey9314]

Dimebag was way better than malmstien

[@funkster007]

Way better? Ok buddy

[@VinCostanza]

@@funkster007wayyyyy better

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

Comparing to Yngwie, Dimebag is a beginner level player.

[@lieutenantdan2217]

​@@guitarherocallahan3510na, it's apples and oranges. They both have such distinct styles.

[@LeonLandgren-qt9pg]

Pfft no need to compare em.

[@messi8921]

Yngwies a cancer ♋️. Very egotistical and sensitive

[@guitarherocallahan3510]

Dimebag is a beginner level player

[@nakinaki7991]

Yeah right 😂

[@franksworld3366]

You don’t know what a good player sounds like Dime has more groove and feel than any Yngwie songs Yngwie is a good player but Dime had the feel and the groove!!Have a donut!!

[@TheMad0ne]

Lol this guy 😂