Mixing LOUD: -3 LUFS - A Total Breakdown of the Gain Staging - Inspired by Skrillex's "Mumbai Power"

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BigJerr

BigJerr

Күн бұрын

Inspired by Skrillex's "Mumbai Power" session
In this video I show you guys how to hit -3LUFS while maintaining a clean mix -
THIS IS A TOTAL BEAKDOWN of the gain staging process
I even include a GAIN STAGING FLOW CHART
Seperate videos for how i used ProQ3 and ProL2 are coming due to popular demand !
Link to Chart:
www.toneden.io/scarlitoffical...
Book a 1-Hour One-on-One Zoom Lesson with me - jerrydiphillippo.youcanbook.me/
#Skrillex #MumbaiPower #mixingloud

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@au5music
@au5music 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial, fascinating
@caskei7881
@caskei7881 4 жыл бұрын
If Au5 approved, it means it really works!! LOL
@MafiaPyro
@MafiaPyro 3 жыл бұрын
Au5 lol my dude
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
thanks man
@sixsense6161
@sixsense6161 3 жыл бұрын
The real question is do you do any of this on your productions?
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
@@sixsense6161 good question I did for a while and as I get better at mixing I realize I need less and less maybe ill do an updated video on how I mix loud now
@papito2lindo
@papito2lindo 4 жыл бұрын
And I was here struggling just to hit a clean -12 lol
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
youll get it !
@SoundPeaks
@SoundPeaks 4 жыл бұрын
that's because you want to achieve this with a compressor, but what you need is a waveshaper. So you will instantly get there.
@chris8651
@chris8651 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundPeaks waveshapers rule!
@urigeheadmot1196
@urigeheadmot1196 3 жыл бұрын
lol how bad
@ArtemProductRendering
@ArtemProductRendering 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoundPeaks what do you mean by waveshaper?
@schawink
@schawink 4 жыл бұрын
Such a well structured tutorial. I definitely learned something from this style of tutorial. Thanks so much!
@rolandgreco5850
@rolandgreco5850 5 жыл бұрын
Most helpful video on the topic since Skrillex dropped those tracks. Awesome work
@zetamale
@zetamale 4 жыл бұрын
This is super interesting. I've always wondered how Skrillex, knife party etc get that next level loudness and this seems to unravel some of that mystery. Muchos Gracias!
@rgarzari
@rgarzari 4 жыл бұрын
That flow chart you used to break down the chains was awesome!!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
so dope my dude glad you dig it
@joel6361
@joel6361 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much dude! There arent many videos explaining dubstep loudness that way, literally changed my life.
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
amazing
@AMaj7ing
@AMaj7ing 4 жыл бұрын
I ve been looking for this for years , all i found is some dude brought up tons of analog comp and randomly tweaking it. THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN
@HowardCharlesUK
@HowardCharlesUK 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen the thumbnail for this video popping up on my recommendations for a while. I'm glad that today I've finally watched it, cause this is a great breakdown!
@table9music
@table9music 4 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful. I've seen the Skrillex walkthrough from different producers but this was by far the best. Thanks bro for laying it all out and explaining the routing so clearly! Subscribed!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
thanks alot - I was thinking about doing a full course on this topic actually
@majkistyle
@majkistyle 5 жыл бұрын
Get some more subs for this man! You put so much work into these videos.
@Fritztafer
@Fritztafer 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS BREAKDOWN! Exactly what I was looking for
@emmanumusic
@emmanumusic 10 ай бұрын
Hey man I want you to know how much I'm grateful for this video. You made an incredible job and it's very well explained. I feel like this is the last piece of puzzle I needed in order to take my music production skills to the next level. The result I got is just phenomenal. I've been producing for 13 years on and off. I thought my music was really good but now it sounds so freakin great and loud! It's day and night. Thank you so much for your work. My biggest dream so far is to make music with Sonny and I truly believe it will happen one day because I'm obsessed to succeed. I will remember you for sure.
@jfb_surfing
@jfb_surfing 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thx for explaining that process!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
you got it dude
@jrapp654
@jrapp654 4 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful! Still hope to see a video on how you use the limiter!
@pedrodelamigofficial
@pedrodelamigofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Thank you
@dulmin_
@dulmin_ 3 жыл бұрын
I hate anybody who leaves this channel unsubscribed, after listening to all these useful information !! 😍👍👍
@chillinyoutube2245
@chillinyoutube2245 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool Thanks for the teaching. It will teach me to make tracks even louder than I could -5.5-5.9 short and long -6.1 LUFS is my maximum I think this will give an even greater impetus
@gabo182b
@gabo182b 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video man ! a lot of tips and tricks to try out.
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
amazing - tell me how it works out for ya !
@vuul6093
@vuul6093 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING I NEEDED THIS
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
you got it !
@taiji8517
@taiji8517 5 жыл бұрын
subscribed! this was so informative :)
@nickashley3785
@nickashley3785 4 жыл бұрын
So sick dude!!
@Matt-mn1nn
@Matt-mn1nn 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid man thanks so much
@emilyarmstrong6462
@emilyarmstrong6462 Жыл бұрын
This was so helpful! I'd love to see what settings your limiters are at for this
@sokoleski
@sokoleski 4 жыл бұрын
exxelent and clear presentation , many thanks for this
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
thanks
@there_vision
@there_vision 4 жыл бұрын
This is game changing stuff right here!
@DiegoCapoccitti
@DiegoCapoccitti 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you for sharing!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
you got it
@MrCreezy7
@MrCreezy7 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more of this!!!
@fakeluv.4943
@fakeluv.4943 4 жыл бұрын
SO WELL EXPLAINED!!!!
@denverlightinganddjservice9101
@denverlightinganddjservice9101 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@fkaecrase
@fkaecrase 5 жыл бұрын
this project is a boom! and i learn much stuffs THANKS BRO!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
of course glad you liked it
@estebanlicea8909
@estebanlicea8909 4 жыл бұрын
Your beat and those lazers are FIIIREEEEE, I need em!!!!!!!
@ethanrogers8426
@ethanrogers8426 4 жыл бұрын
Here is my flow. Make multiple busses - drum buss, bass buss, sub buss, synth buss, foley fx buss, risers/downers buss. Soft clip each buss to get the most perceived sound from the buss without destroying the sound/timbre. Route each buss to a pre master buss, add saturation and again soft clip to catch any crazy peaks. Route the pre master to your master buss then process - I use 2 buss channel saturation > 2 buss compressor > soft clipper > ott > ozone 8 (eq > exciter > imager > mutlband compr > post eq > limiter to - 4dBs ceiling. Then to the Fab pro L2 with +4 gain. I control my LUFS by the input into ozone which is between -3dB and -4dB. I get crazy loud clean mixes.
@ethanrogers8426
@ethanrogers8426 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as well btw! Subbed
@RajBeats
@RajBeats 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, thank you
@hannahbackward
@hannahbackward Жыл бұрын
Oh man! I was searching around for how to use reference tracks, if you should try to get your mixes as loud as mastered reference, how loud your sub-frequency should be, the difference between Span and Metric A/B and then I stumble across your channel and this video and wondering what the hell I got myself into. Fascinating stuff, btw! I'm gonna rewatch this and check out some of your other tutorials. The good news is I use Ableton.
@YeudaBenAtar
@YeudaBenAtar 3 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial!
@US3Rofficial
@US3Rofficial 3 жыл бұрын
you did this totally correct. well done man
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
well thanks
@namenamename290
@namenamename290 8 ай бұрын
SUCH a beautiful tutorial, I soaked in as much as I could, and even took notes ! :) Thank you so much for the information, BigJerr, I haven’t been this excited to learn music production in years ❤️
@namenamename290
@namenamename290 8 ай бұрын
Dope shirt btw !
@ryde2012
@ryde2012 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic will try this 🔥
@mranderson3217
@mranderson3217 5 жыл бұрын
super dope!! thanks for sharing
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
you got it buddy !
@palmigretar5240
@palmigretar5240 5 жыл бұрын
that's an easy sub! Looking forward to check out some more of your content! Thanks for the insight :D
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
your the man
@pianoatthirty
@pianoatthirty Жыл бұрын
Ok that was awesome, thank you.
@kringspier123
@kringspier123 4 жыл бұрын
This is great ! Thanks
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
of course
@LuMozMusic
@LuMozMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool ,thanks.
@nikku1166
@nikku1166 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Interesting he had Camel Phat on his master. This was an old trick back in the day when most software limiters weren't very transparent. Now obviously CamelPhat isn't known as a Limiter, but a multi-effect plug-in (mostly used for saturation, coloring, filtering, compression, etc.). But what people started noticing with it is it had an amazing built in limiter that was fairly transparent and sounded great. People would place it on buses and masters with everything turned off except the "master" section with the "mix" set to %100, and then dial in the volume. Mainly using it just keeps anything from going above "zero"... it gives it a hard-line ceiling that nothing will go over. This helps out the main Limiter (Ozone or Pro-L) a lot because they don't like a clipping signal entering them, so your guaranteed to have a proper but loud gain staged volume coming out of CamelPhat entering your main limiter so it doesn't have to work as hard..... I prob explain that horribly, lol. But I bet he's just using it to keep any wild peaks under control. Many people would drop it on the master this way when they first started out a project as well (like the only thing on the master to start, even if they weren't going to keep it there later) to keep anything from clipping go going above zero while working on a tune. There's actually an old video floating around of the DnB producer Audio (he's a straight Don in the Jungle\DnB game) doing just this exact thing in a tutorial track breakdown.
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
any limiter will don on the master (except ablutions lol) and mixing into that limiter is the key to loudness
@nikku1166
@nikku1166 4 жыл бұрын
BigJerr Definitely. I love mixing into limiters, especially on drum channels. I think the key to the whole “loudness war fun” is pushing things in stages (as your video explains). Small amounts of compression and limiting in stages reduces the workload final limiter has to perform, thus allowing you to push it farther and it to react better. At least that’s what I’ve been noticing in my bedroom superstar studio late nights. And yeah, Ableton‘s limiter does suck. I was almost certain they would update that in version 10. It’s not completely useless, but on a master channel it sure as hell is. Lol
@varlok8113
@varlok8113 3 жыл бұрын
Bro that was perfectly put, not horribly explained. It's one of those little but important details of getting the most out of your audio.
@okidot
@okidot 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigJerr Really misleading info! You preface the whole video by saying not to mix like this, but you are showing people how to do it anyways. Loudness war is not over if people want to mix to LUFS -3. Pulling air through my teeth watching first few mins... tragic
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
@@okidot im sorry this bothers you so much - lol
@milosmaric4790
@milosmaric4790 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot on these tips bro!!!! Of course, we are all interested in learning how to get sound enough loud but don't lose the quality of it..If you can make some short videos about it, that would be grate!!!
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums Жыл бұрын
awesome vid. You can also substitute clippers for limiters in many cases it sounds even cleaner !
@ShiShiWorld
@ShiShiWorld Жыл бұрын
thank you for this!!
@DJYukie
@DJYukie 5 жыл бұрын
Wow super informative. Thanks a lot as usual! Have questions about you q3 and l2 so for sure excited about your vids on those!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
cool what are you question specificly so i can see if i can work them into the lesson
@DJYukie
@DJYukie 5 жыл бұрын
BigJerr BigJerr thanks for asking! Personally In this case the bus processing. Im curious what you are listening for when deciding your limiting type and the other parameters like attacks and the channel link in the l2. Also I just started trying to use the mode with the headphone. (Think its audition) and im just not getting what I should be looking for in that. Anyway thats just so stuff in my head but any vid here I learn something i had no idea about so thats appreciate big time!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
@@DJYukie all good questions! the EQ video will likely be first and ill touch those questions there - as for the limiter - go back and listen to what I said in the "things to watch out for when mixing loud" section at the end of the video - limiting will add a sorta "pressure" to you sounds/Buses - its one of those things your going to have to learn to both hear and feel and ultimately CONTROL !
@DJYukie
@DJYukie 5 жыл бұрын
BigJerr ahh ok I gotcha. Ill do exactly that and train my ears better! Btw your Wish Wish Remix killed at a festival I did over the weekend!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
@@DJYukie I love that did you get any video ?
@NIcknELijah
@NIcknELijah 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for changing my life forever.
@jesseoneil5471
@jesseoneil5471 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank you.
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
of course
@user-ud3lu6mu5k
@user-ud3lu6mu5k 8 ай бұрын
great stuff thanks
@tano_cariddi
@tano_cariddi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this!!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
you got it
@fortknightpredilluvian2008
@fortknightpredilluvian2008 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Instant sub
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
glad you liked it
@arm4nmusic923
@arm4nmusic923 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man
@xerixm5314
@xerixm5314 3 ай бұрын
I produce metal and i often mix into a clipper (like standard clip/jst clip/inflator etc..) and then once the mix is fone i would crank up that clipper and add more saturation/limiter etc... i can never get the loudness of -3LUFS like they do in EDM. Appreciate the tutorial & flowchart breakdown this was like a PhD research 😂. I might try it in my next few songs. Sidechaining is also another great technique worth mentioning. That pumping effect i often hear with skrillex tracks for thay split second whrn nothing is playing during the attack of the kick or snare 🤘
@Scansiswave
@Scansiswave 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
@Thyronix
@Thyronix 2 жыл бұрын
Dude you blew my fucking mind. Thank you for this amazingly helpful video!!
@umaranwar8507
@umaranwar8507 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial
@yukionesound
@yukionesound 2 жыл бұрын
Очень крутая информация! Спасибо!
@i-wish-i-was-afk
@i-wish-i-was-afk 11 ай бұрын
This video changed my mixing game.
@plxp
@plxp 2 жыл бұрын
Structured asf! This tuto is gold As a dnb producer, it helped me a lot to reach a loud level on my tunes Thanks mate! I knew it was all about chains and different kind of comp but I didn’t know how to use it I was jus cutting peaks with clippers and squashing my transients but it was sounding a bit agressive due to the fact everything was going in a master bus ! So, thank u very much 🤝
@yoyoma4424
@yoyoma4424 4 жыл бұрын
HI great vides! Thanks very much!! Can we see one other step as you mentioned? I would love to see eqing the drop synths?
@eliopose
@eliopose 4 жыл бұрын
mastering with mastersword
@lonlonidiot4994
@lonlonidiot4994 Жыл бұрын
My FL studio Template's about to go next level. Thank you for this❤
@rux_ton
@rux_ton 4 жыл бұрын
Im intrigued by this-- definitely gonna experiment to see how this can affect my overall sound. Also props on the zelda shit, and from what i can see, really dope tattoos man. You got a new sub tonight:)
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
thanks much - I actually think im going to be doing a short course on mixing loud soon
@rux_ton
@rux_ton 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigJerr No problem! im definitely keen to hear it! *no pun intended*
@AmanBansil
@AmanBansil 4 жыл бұрын
Liked and subed. Would love a start to finish guide!
@stenlyspa1325
@stenlyspa1325 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, nice tutorials! thanks for all of them! Is this your final mastering touch to your tracks or you export everything and do other like classical type of mastering after all? i realy do not understand this moment! thanks!
@briancase6180
@briancase6180 3 жыл бұрын
I think you summarized Skrillex's tactics very well. I've experimented before seeing this with simple tracks (not so many individual sounds/channels), and it definitely works very well. I think there's more than one way to do this, but this is the general idea. And I think the way to explain it is this: you need a good crest factor at every stage of your mix. If you have a great overall crest factor at the end, your track has the potential to be very, very loud (if you want that). Another thing is that getting to -3 is appropriate maybe for some pop and some EDM, but not for everything!
@johnfire2330
@johnfire2330 3 жыл бұрын
THANKS!!
@nosleepclub8823
@nosleepclub8823 4 жыл бұрын
really cool, thank you! and what do you do with the pre-master chain?
@mattsotoofficial8224
@mattsotoofficial8224 3 жыл бұрын
Youre very help with this tutorial, Thank you so much i appreciate it. Question, where do you learn it??
@TripTropMusic
@TripTropMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Sick! Gonna try this out
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
so cool please do tell me how it works out !
@SlayALLDay1979
@SlayALLDay1979 4 жыл бұрын
TRIP TROP Hah
@ryde2012
@ryde2012 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic I’m subscribing to you
@davincisound739
@davincisound739 4 жыл бұрын
I would never mix this loud but this video was dope, great tutorial!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
just an option my dude def mix however you'd like - its your art after all!
@davincisound739
@davincisound739 4 жыл бұрын
BigJerr 💯💯
@reiherreracl3459
@reiherreracl3459 5 жыл бұрын
thank youuuuu!!!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
yoor welcome
@Miner49erize
@Miner49erize 4 жыл бұрын
Super interesting! The signal flowchart is really helpful, but I notice that you never showed the Premaster bus in the tutorial. That just has a Pro-L on it? How much gain reduction is that limiter doing?
@Vidorraofficial
@Vidorraofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@loganhollywood8963
@loganhollywood8963 2 жыл бұрын
The way you explaining 👓🕶🥽
@luminator7130
@luminator7130 4 жыл бұрын
Yoo man thank you so much for sharing your work. I like it very much and I have some questions, what about the drums is it routed directly to the master or sent to another chain and then routed to the master.
@solacemusic7902
@solacemusic7902 4 жыл бұрын
This is fucking amazing ❤️
@WHITETRASH1999
@WHITETRASH1999 2 жыл бұрын
this video is very rare shit,thanks,for some knowledge and for that chart
@LuckyElk91
@LuckyElk91 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for this awesome tutorial. I had a quick question on your pro q dynamic eq settings on the sub bus..? The way they move looks too fast to be your kick and snare frequencies.. what is it you are removing from the sub dynamically there? ;) Been working a lot with dynamic eq and this looks cool. Thanks.
@georgewirkus
@georgewirkus 3 жыл бұрын
awesome video
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@intheblink
@intheblink 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, really nice video. I like your style and the pace a lot. One recommendation: there seems to be a lot of mouth noise getting through. You might find something like iZotope RX’s mouth declicker could knock that out for you. Great work!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
OMG I get it there have been several comments and since then I MAKE SURE not to have any mouth sounds(it was just a late night and I forgot) - please lets all move past this minor detail lol
@intheblink
@intheblink 4 жыл бұрын
BigJerr ah, sorry, didn’t see the others. Might just be more pronounced on mobile. Anyway, keep up the great work!
@thetoast677
@thetoast677 5 жыл бұрын
this is dope
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
thanks man
@pythonbeatsss2331
@pythonbeatsss2331 4 жыл бұрын
Best!
@WebangDubstep
@WebangDubstep 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work!!!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 5 жыл бұрын
thanks !
@WebangDubstep
@WebangDubstep 5 жыл бұрын
Most def man always great tutorials!
@ALEXSUPERBEATS
@ALEXSUPERBEATS 4 жыл бұрын
NICE!
@harikrishnan4411
@harikrishnan4411 4 жыл бұрын
great
@badlad651
@badlad651 3 жыл бұрын
That deserved a sub
@Bloquednb
@Bloquednb 4 жыл бұрын
thumbs up and a new sub nice video dude
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
thanks so much !
@dimitrispalantzas5281
@dimitrispalantzas5281 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I wonder what will spotify do to a -3 lufs master? Will it be turned down by 11?
@flyoverfredusa
@flyoverfredusa 4 жыл бұрын
when i do it this way i always struggle to get the volume whilst protecting a deep warm sub bass - it distorts so quickly :(
@kylechumchal
@kylechumchal 4 жыл бұрын
My man pulled out the spider man font! FR though super insightful video 🙏
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 4 жыл бұрын
Imaginary World that’s def not the spider man font
@WhoIsJaeLee
@WhoIsJaeLee 3 жыл бұрын
Cool vid! Are you controlling the volumes after limiting with pro-l out gain? to match the balance you set on mixing?
@bobsanders2145
@bobsanders2145 5 жыл бұрын
subbing 100%
@rahilchadha6649
@rahilchadha6649 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever happen to create that mixing loud course that was mentioned? Great content btw!
@anthonycruz9238
@anthonycruz9238 3 жыл бұрын
This is SO loud. Super helpful though.
@R3GALMUSIK
@R3GALMUSIK 2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Is there any need for a clipper on the pre master?
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