Diablo Immortal Streamer Tests P2W, Paid $16,000 For First 5/5 Star Legendary Gem, Deletes Game

[@YongYea]

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[@lightningsam]

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[@la_sn3ak3r19]

Defund Police Nationwide! Vote Blue 2022!!!! 🌊💙💙

[@brookboi_6992]

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[@uinasenskam8326]

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[@spectrumsucks1607]

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[@TheBlargMarg]

Oh don't worry, in a few months all this gear will be worthless when Blizz increases the gear treadmill. Get ready to spend another few hundred thousand dollars again to get to the next gear cap!

[@georgejones5019]

The Destiny model. Sell DLC for $60. Raise the level cap, put the gear behind a long tedious grind, repeat. Even better remove content that's been paid for, or progress made from the first game. Then resell that content back in the 2nd.

[@gl4re]

Yes and it seems some people still dont realise that part yet and call this game ok.

[@solblackguy]

Wait until we see the what they pull in Diablo IV. Seems like everyone forgot Diablo III had a literal auction house.

[@TheBlargMarg]

@@solblackguy And this game has one too. Funny that it hasn't gotten that much attention considering how much D3's real money auctions house was brutally criticized. I guess when it's Free to Play anything is fine...

[@TheHeavyshadow]

@@TheBlargMarg Nah, I think the thing is that considering everything that's going on with Immortal a real money auction house is the least of it's problems and that's why no one focuses on that.

[@SqueakRecords]

Personally I love Diablo: Immortal. I spent over $250k on in-game purchases, and it has shown me the true path to enlightenment. After losing my wife, kids, car, job, and home to afford the addiction, I found that while I had spent more, I had less. Diablo: Immortal taught me how to live a life without material possessions. It was only after stripping me of everything I've ever loved did I know true happiness in freeing myself of the burden of having any money at all. I now live in the woods, living off the fat of the land. I hunt to survive and have become nomadic, befriending various forest creatures and embarking on magical forest journeys, then return to my cave and new family of Orangutans. I only occasionally return to society to access McDonalds wi-fi to preach the new good word of Diablo: Immortal.

[@Yogsoggeth]

This sounds eerily like the real life story of how I lost everything playing World of Warcraft... And I wasn't even at level 60 yet... I hate to think how much worse my life could/would have gotten if I had to pay to win back then :O

[@ryu-ken]

That's sounds sweet! I shall join you

[@Nathan-bf7mt]

Lmao this is so accurate.

[@Anime-Manwha-Manga-webnovel]

🤣🤣🤣🤣funny

[@ricojes]

This reads like a yelp review from a dollar store Archbishop Lazarus.

[@SubBrief]

Activision Blizzard has an earnings report August 2nd. Should be a good call. Lots of happy investors.

[@mustacobra]

Yeah, so many stypid whales giving them 20k each and multiple times

[@thomasritzgerald4997]

Not necessarily. Investors don’t want to see a game company hemmorhaging users. It would be a cause for alarm and make the stock price drop because future earnings will be shit. It’s like if Apple reported a significant number of users were switching to Android. Truthfully I want AB’s stock to drop, so that Microsoft can buy this shitshow. Maybe they can turn things around. Who knows?

[@rustyshackleford7503]

There's already info on it. Supposedly they hit 24 million in the first 2 weeks.

[@Ryno_757]

@@thomasritzgerald4997 You’re right; however, if someone wants to short sell the stock, the whales, loyalists, and curious purchasers are the ones that’ll give them the quick profit before they sell, before the plummet.

[@motleyflux]

That is abysmal. Diablo 3 sold 3.5 million units on the first day. The game selling at 60 bucks a unit is 210 million. So 23 Million for a game in development for 5 years is not good.

[@Spellfork]

It's crazy how Blizzard has gone from a developer that always released solid games of such quality that I bought and played them just because they were made by Blizz but now the brand is so damaged through corporate actions and inactions that the brand is more of a warning label for bad practices and predatory behavior towards their customers as well as their own employees.

[@ryu-ken]

Happens to them all when they get too big. Believe it or not, at one time even EA was considered an honorable badass company

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

@@ryu-ken right?! Back in the day, EA used to be who you went to for awesome games full of fan service and well developed gameplay. Wild how much it changed.

[@twofarg0ne763]

Blizzard did a nose dive when Kotich took over.,

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

Blizzard is just a brand. Some of the people from back then are still around, but not in charge. The current Blizzard is so bafflingly out of touch that they can't even pull their PR spins off properly.

[@pvshka]

I don't know how people missed this, but basically all the Blizzard founders left the company quite some time ago and said that it was a soulless shell of what it once was.

[@dlh9943]

With the amount of streamers pumping incredible amounts of money into the game, the game is doing exactly what Blizzard want it to do. This game was never designed for the wide market, it was designed for the whales at a high profit margin. In Blizzard's eyes, this is a success

[@AdrianPelaj]

Exactly, buys 16k worth of microtransactions, to prove microtransactions in the game are bad. Actual stupidity.

[@victorb5]

@@AdrianPelaj I don't know, 16k is a drop in the bucket and even if 100 streamers do it that's only 1.6 million. If that goes to grind the grossness of the game into the ground and no one plays it as a result, that's a win. We'll see if they wasted their money and couldn't reach the mobile gamers who don't give a shit.

[@SoulCrusherEx]

Exactly.... Why did one guy pay them this much money to prove a point?! They dont care what you think what a dumbass. They have your money. Thats it...

[@G3rmanLyrics]

so therefore a regular 60 dollar game should be played by the whole world to be profitable? Heck how is it possible for FromSoftware for example to be in business anymore?

[@beHaski]

My thoughts exactly. These people have subpar intelligence.

[@PsychopathicTurtle]

that was his worst mistake : Paying 16k for the sake of "Testing" or "proving" something even for the sake of "content". People can bash on the game all they want afterwards but they fed into the system by giving the scumbags behind Diablo Immortal enormous sums of money. We will get even worse than this game until people just stop spending their money into these microtransactions, paywall ridden, 10 years of grinding poor excuses for a video game.

[@flowpoi5864]

consider it paid anti advertisement. brought it to the attention of many.

[@mathiasthorndal9218]

16k is nothing in the grand scheme of things, especially if his example turns others away from spending anything

[@HellStamp]

I'm agreeing with this. who is gonna see this and think anything other than "i wasn't going to play this anyway and this proves it' The whales wont see this. The finance department will only see a +16k in the account This helps no-one. Maybe I'm jaded but I don't see this being a good thing.

[@Howitchewstofeel5gum]

My thoughts exactly.

[@spawnstah7228]

Exactly, if you wanted to prove something for anti advertising, there are much better ways to do it, than actually doing it, imagine trying to prove soda is unhealthy by drinking nothing but soda for months on end, it's bad for everyone except the people selling you the stuff

[@aarontrupiano9328]

for just one gem? this may very well be the worst monetization in any video game ever.

[@aeonremnant]

Iirc worst monetisation in any AAA game in human history.

[@alexdasliebe5391]

That’s a compliment to the team that worked on monetization

[@aarontrupiano9328]

@@aeonremnant i changed it to video game in stead of just game. it should be a little better now

[@brentc2411]

it may well not be also, just the best documented so far.

[@ironyman6385]

I Bet Blizzard execs are like, "Hey real gems cost even more money, and our gems are rarer than real ones."

[@ZappasMudshark]

I’ve played through the campaign and hit 60 haven’t spent anything and it literally feels like I’m locked out. The crazy thing to me was I was thinking about buying the battle pass then saw it had like 3 other tiers involved on top of just the basic battle pass. It’s fucking gross.

[@kevingame3198]

I know but there’s one good mobile give you should give a try League of Legends wild rift see what you will about this game it’s really fun But the monetization gives you no gameplay advantage you own a specific skin with no gameplay advantages that’s it just a pure cosmetic change

[@raidengoodman8754]

@@kevingame3198 plus with gamepass you get all characters

[@rebjorn79]

Yea, there's a very real feeling of being 'locked out' as you say. Meanwhile, some are adamant that the game is NOT P2W. It's absolutely P2W, it's _Immoral_ and it's disgusting.

[@kevingame3198]

@@raidengoodman8754 yep But that’s unfortunate for potentially Nintendo and PlayStation players

[@nonye0]

or dont play it. respect yoself ma man

[@gigagrave]

Giving blizzard thousands of dollars to prove their game is bad defeats the purpose. Don't give them your money

[@gazb2740]

They're gate keepers for the company

[@Grux_ASG]

What? Don't you guys have wallets?

[@notchs0son]

@@gazb2740 what are they gate keeping, Stfu stuff your money down their throats if “gatekeeping” is what I think then absolutely no one’s stopping you from being able to.

[@grandmagunsales2125]

Thanks to that CLOWN Blizzard can recover from any angry protesters Molotovs thrown their windows, unlike valve rn. Why is it people will burn half their wallet and hours of their life for things they hate but won't lift a finger to save what they love

[@DJD925]

Yeah good luck with that no matter what u do some dumbass will still purchase this shit

[@georgejones5019]

I refuse to download it. Let alone actually spend any money on it. This game is proof there needs to be laws and limitations on these things. There's no way this isn't gambling, or that this gem is worth $16k.

[@teamfishbowl1076]

why do you care if its gambling? every game with loot boxes has gambling in it.

[@Avermra]

Yep, I played a lot of D2 and D3, and I'm not touching DI or D4 until it proves to not be F2P in any way. The only way to voice your opinion is stop supporting the game, and yes, even as "F2p" you are feeding the MAU and supporting the game.

[@charbajeena7452]

@@teamfishbowl1076 then maybe all loot boxes games need to get legislation like a gambling games did.

[@swordre5805]

At least real gambling has a chance to earn back the cash.

[@StinkySundae]

No pixels are worth $16 K unless it’s 8K state of the art 90 inch TV

[@OmegaZyion]

And remember, it isn't hundreds of thousands over all, it's all for one character. To fully upgrade one of each class you would probably have to spend a million dollars overall because loot isn't shared between characters.

[@explodingtomahawks7589]

Oh dear God.

[@kildaver]

"Do you not have spare organs to sell? How many lungs do you *really* need?"--Blizzard, probably.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

This will happen. Someone is going to spend a million on this game. I wouldn't be shocked if we hear about it by the end of next month

[@definitely-a-b0t]

@@rosesweetcharlotte what game?

[@happiestrain1926]

The game the video is about? Diablo immortal??

[@snitzleflick]

Imagine having so much money, having money come to you so easily, and/or being so fiscally irresponsible that throwing $20k into a game for just a *chance* at gear means nothing. Blizzard is essentially making themselves a “high roller’s” club, but allowing the members to mingle with and completely destroy those outside of the club for its members ego and validation. Makes my stomach churn thinking about how filthy this scheme is.

[@kurrwa]

blizzard took inflations into considerations xD

[@warghostmonX]

They essentially brought real world economics into their games: those who have everything dominate everyone, and everyone else simply struggles to get by...

[@ghostghost6]

Quinn 69 is basically the Ninja of Blizzard Diablo games

[@Gloomdrake]

No, most whales are people who _can't_ afford to spend those massive amounts of money, but who end up succumbing to the addiction for one reason or another

[@broken9365]

This whole rabbit hole surrounding this game is the most first world problem and privileged thing i've seen since it came out. No wonder why yall americans/europeans are famous to be such an easy target for scammers when traveling. At this point it's just natural selection if you have so much money that you can't "ressist" the urge to spend it in a videogame just because other players are doing it.

[@brianoconnor5972]

Also remember that even if you get a 5 star gem there's a good chance it won't be best in your build. Then you have to sell your 5 star on the market and buy the one you need. However blizzard also takes a 10% cut when you sell on the market, so even if you get a 5 star gem you'll have to spend more for your build

[@Interesting_Failure]

Or if you didn't use an Eternal crest, it's just strictly worse and you have to keep spending as though you never got it in order to max out your gear.

[@pvshka]

@@Interesting_Failure or you can just not play that crap

[@TerrorSS]

I think I’m more upset that he gave blizzard 16k. We all knew what this game was before.

[@somebodyintheworld5036]

I'm not. We need some people to go the distance and drop the money. News headlines with people actually spending and losing crazy figures grabs public attention. Public attention that will hopefully lead to change. You can make a much more convincing argument when someone has actually lost that money instead of it being a theoretical amount. If anyone was going to do it, it's best for a streamer to who can commericalize the whole ordeal and recoup some of those costs. Also, the negative attention that streamer draws to the game is also great.

[@rskat501]

@@somebodyintheworld5036 he could probably write it off on his taxes as a loss

[@jekblom123]

The thievery needed to be publicly demonstrated.

[@biggs2560]

@@somebodyintheworld5036 The only public attention that will come from this are people laughing at this streamer for wasting $16k to "make a point". Everyone already knew about the egregious MTX, and this move isn't going to convince the whales to stop spending. Trying to make this waste of money anymore than a foolish display of wasting money is absurd.

[@moldykyle5815]

He could actually get most of that refunded, automatically. You can 100% refund orb purchases and bundle purchases. But if you buy the in game currencey platinum for orbs then that will forfeit the oppurtunity for the refund for that specific orb purchase. But if your account is connected to battlenet you will be banned for refunding. Luckily i was on a guest account so i was able to refund without getting punished

[@Dgero]

In the long run I don’t recommend anyone do what this man did, which was effectively become a cash whale that is talked about being the bane of p2w games, and what keeps them alive just for the sake of saying “see this system is bad”

[@iancredible-]

The reason Blizzard will continue with these shady practices is because there are people out there willing to fork out $16k. The Blizzard bosses couldn't care less whether the companies reputation is in the gutter, as long as people are paying for microtransactions and they are getting their bonuses this will continue over and over again.

[@arlaux1099]

It’s made 24 mil in 2 weeks. At 12 mil a week it’ll make 312 million in half a year.

[@adad87821]

@@arlaux1099 its gross that people are supporting this game

[@knox7945]

@@adad87821 people are literally zombies

[@hiddenxalpha7053]

1 high profile player spending $16k, means so many more WONT.

[@MandeepSingh-vt9hl]

@@adad87821 they are not hard-core gamers and all they don't watch these videos or even watch videos about games other than maybe review by ign or something.

[@dullsunrise8820]

Diablo Immortal is the perfect representation of most free-to-play games: sacrificing integrity and potential all for a quick buck, yet people who most likely need that money still get tricked into paying, with the game’s micro-transactions purposefully helping develop and prey on those with gambling addictions. It’s a shame that this one is at the cost of a once great series.

[@JesusKreist]

Again. Remember Dungeon Keeper 3?

[@Scottistic]

Do you need food or do you need to scratch that itch…💳💸

[@grafeugenius]

Thank you for the "most" part. Because some f2p games aren't that predatory. They're horny tho.

[@RessG]

Yep and sadly there's people who keep supporting and defending this kind of games.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

@@RessG "It's their money!" That's the one I have heard. A lot of the game's defenders really believe there is nothing wrong with these people spending tens of thousands of dollars on a game, completely neglecting the fact that this game was designed to trap addicts and squeeze them for every cent

[@lenseeing829]

Remember the times where we only need to pay once for the whole game, or just donating any amount just to support the devs and unlock the whole game? Gone.

[@Lenariet]

Or what about the million indie games? Just stop playing AAA trash. Even for your Diablo itch there are Path of Exile or Grim Dawn or whatever.

[@TheGreatTave]

@/フリークS_ I agree, only issue is that because more and more people continue to spend $20 on an in game skin or $5 on an xp boost or whatever it is, then the more these companies will continue to make over monetized bullshit instead of true art. Elden Ring, while not my kind of game, is a fantastic investment. $59.99 for a full, massive game, not to mention it'll most likely receive more content/updates in the future as well as the modding community. But, as long as games like Fortnite bring in billions of dollars each year, it's only a matter of time until Bandai Namco makes From Software shift to free to play over monetization as well.

[@TheGreatTave]

@@Lenariet There are still some good AAA games, but those publishers can be VERY greedy. Yes I recommend every Diablo fan just play Grim Dawn or Victor Vran or Torchlight or something else for now. Diablo Immortal is complete ass, and I am VERY skeptical about Diablo 4 at this point. I'll wait until it's out, but I do not see myself playing that game anytime soon if it's published by the same people who thought Diablo Immortal was a good product.

[@mrconroy4672]

@@Lenariet Or Hades game.

[@Thunda1986]

And pay for expansions that are pretty much a full game

[@UnreasonableOpinions]

It quietly fascinates me that the sheer horror at Diablo Immortal's predatory microtransactions has created enough interest for large channels and streamers that it is financially viable for them to demonstrate the awful odds by spending actual money on the junk. Realistically there's no more than 20-30 streamers putting in big dollars and they will be doing this for no more than a month or two before it stops being newsworthy entirely, so if they dissuade even a thousand people each from playing it's a net loss, considering the whales or the addicted will be spending for years. But it is a little grim that this means by making the game memorably awful instead of just utterly mediocre so nobody even looks at it, they may have arguably made a little more short-term money.

[@MichaelYT23]

That's specifically why Diablo is predatory. Big KZbinrs and Streamers will spend money to demonstrate how bad the microtransactions are in diablo to prove a point, but at the cost of the devs getting free advertising plus more renevue. See the system? It's why stuff like this will continue. Develope a bad reputation from greed and people will talk about you and your game. They will spend money to prove how greedy you are yet they just got scammed and don't even realize it.

[@AlexanderBukh]

they getting a refund 100%

[@JohnDoe-ug3su]

there are actual people that spend more than streamers, sadly

[@fahmiluthfi7991]

theyve got 14,5 Mill from the first week, no matter how much people bitchin, its still a succes for their perspective, the question is at what cost? how big this degeneracy will impact them? im bit sceptic this will hurt them badly in the eyes of casual players, and there where the money lies, the casual whales

[@wallaceluna6241]

@@fahmiluthfi7991 If they make D4 legendary n skip the micro transactions ppl will over look this. If they do the same thing in D4 ppl will regard the company as just a greedy corp tryina squeeze you for every $100k you don't got.

[@anti-roxas850]

Imagine spending up to 1,000$ just for the chance to get a small item IN A GAME that be outdated *NEXT WEEK!!!!!*

[@kildaver]

@The Omnissiah It's why, every time my mobile account asks me to put a credit card on record, I click "SKIP".

[@manfredflyingcircus1232]

Just sick

[@hv2268]

That’s all gacha games pretty much

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

Did I hear that right? A 1/2000 drop rate from a pay-only dungeon with variable stats?! And it needs *duplicates* to upgrade?!

[@nerobiblios4086]

Honestly, the most surprising part of this game is that it has defenders. Like, legitimately, there are people out there going out of their way to defend it by using the classic "its free to play so it's ok" and "just don't do PvP and play PvE and you don't need to pay" arguments. I never believed people like those actually exist, but here they are.

[@karmabad6287]

Half of them are probably bots and the rest are just village idiots. Undoubtedly a minority in any case. If the community stands together, the game will get spanked like battlefront 2 did.

[@BaranTheBad]

How is this any different than rich kids in the neighborhood dropping huge money on a few boxes of MTG booster packs hoping to get that super rare cards to make a bad ass deck to crush his friends back in the day?

[@kafuchi2528]

@@karmabad6287 here's the thing.. this "minority" you're talking about spends thousands of dollars if not hundreds.. and this 1-5% of players alone will keep blizzard alive

[@throbbingwiener6218]

There's a Kotaku article defending this game. Imagine that, fricking Kotaku defending a game made by Blizzard. Given Blizzard's recent controversies and how Kotaku is very anti big gaming corporation, you'd think they would be flaming the shit out of this game before it even came out.

[@StinkySundae]

Defenders are Chinese hired fckheads trying to sound intelligent and logical

[@Woolie]

man, he sure showed them by instantly uninstalling & slamming the game verbally! that'll teach em!

[@jamesduncan6729]

All that money they made off him will make Activision/Blizz feel so guilty. This is such a good lesson for them to learn... Sarcasm of course

[@sparky117SAS]

@@jamesduncan6729 $16k for the amount of publicity he's gotten is worth.

[@FuhzyLiquids]

@@sparky117SAS publicity? I didn't know who they were until this vid and I'll forget about them before I wake up tommorow.

[@Justicejuice179]

@@FuhzyLiquids you’re not exactly encompassing the whole of the internet.

[@MapleYum]

@@sparky117SAS agreed. People seem to see this very narrowly. He’s gotten an international stage with this advertisement at a bargain cost. Better still be was able to make a solid point about Blizzard’s complete moral meltdown.

[@Mogglen]

@YongYea Before he passed, my grandfather played Diablo 2 for over twenty years. He was the one who introduced me to video games. I remember playing with him every weekend and talking about different types of builds and lore. The Diablo series is more important to me than any other. We aren't wealthy. All we have is our time, and our love for the game. Even $60 is a HUGE investment. I would NEVER spend a single penny on this disgusting display of corporate greed. My grandfather wouldn't either.

[@chainswordcs]

I can't believe anyone is defending this game and rating it above a 0. That better not be Activision-Blizzard bots

[@pitbullnamedcupcake8485]

Worse. Blizzard Stans

[@zigmus00A]

@@pitbullnamedcupcake8485 what's the difference?

[@59hawks]

@@zigmus00A bots have more free will

[@oscarpalacios7828]

Even worse, ludopaths that have the money to keep the P2W craze. The whales AAA companies are looking to harpoon.

[@sytherwusky]

@@pitbullnamedcupcake8485 This is on top of the revelations that women employees are treated horribly at the company

[@J01789]

It's still fucking stupid to spend 16,000 dollars. Yes, you pointed out the predatory practices, but you gave them 16,000 dollars to do so. I swear, streamers/gamers are part of the problem here.

[@Yoshixandir]

They are. They basically are encouraging it since the companies know their is always gonna be an idiot who is gonna spend that much money. No wonder the companies are ok with micro transactions it just works

[@mr.puggin8384]

They get to write it off since it’s part of the job and get repaid with viewers also content they don’t hate it they love the game easy content.

[@mattryan7124]

@@Yoshixandir quin averaged 20-21k viewers with literally non stop text to speech and subscribers revenue rolling in. He likely easily made all of it back and then some

[@stitchfinger7678]

@@mattryan7124 Twitch isnt even where most of the money comes from when youre that big.

[@BB-pn2qv]

Absolutely agree, this was idiotic

[@pj9100]

"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message"

[@psychomantis3361]

What blew my mind was when Quin unequipped his gear in one of the rifts and was roughly still as strong as we was with no gear due to the hand holding scaling system.

[@LowKeyJaded]

You’re only as powerful as you think you are.

[@simongraves8339]

That's what I explain to mobile "gamers" their isn't really skill and ability properly involved in them it's either rng or hand held game does most of the work for you

[@Junos2011]

Well, it's a game on a hand held device. What did you expect?

[@whynotsa6866]

@@Junos2011 no don't try to divide the handheld players from non handheld players, it's the same argument that the pro-diablo immortal people are parading. there are proper games in the handheld market that are skill based.

[@GeorgeMonet]

I don't think you understand what hand holding means. Hand holding is when you receive outside help or are guided through something, the idea is that someone is holding your hand to guide you through something. But stats being essentially worthless is not hand holding. Handholding would be something like doing Grifts in D3 with a high ilevel player who invites you to a high ilevel Grift and completes it for you while you follow behind so you can leapfrog over the early legendary farming grind.

[@scottlypuff]

i just want to thank yolu for your coverage i just saved my friend and about 30 families from their "unschool" group from chaos the older kids wanted this game so i warned her to look deeper sent some of your vids and even the teens are against it now thank you!!!you are doing good important workk!!

[@chistopherr7536]

The fact Blizzard designed their game around this ludicrous level of macrotransactions tells us they have the same morals as a casino and a drug dealer. They not only don't care people with severe gambling addictions are going to spend their life savings, some even likely to lose their homes to max out in this game but they actively encourage it. Blizzard is a stain on the gaming industry as a whole. They're truly evil.

[@RecoveringLoLAddict]

Incredible how a company can make 3 of the best games of all time and then 20 years later they have created 3 worst games of all time.

[@tompotter8703]

It’s basically a ship of Theseus. If all the creative and fun loving people have left or been fired, and have been replaced by people who are only interested in money, then is it even the same company?

[@Erakius323]

Agree. Growing up, Blizzard was a mark of quality. Now? It’s a warning to avoid.

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

... effortless, I might add.

[@WarLord34]

It’s like the quote “you either die as a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”

[@kurrwa]

yea blizzard only did 3 titles nothing more. There are a lot amazing games from 90s and early 2000s so nothing special about blizzard to be honest people overyhyping this company for no reason and now we get what we get :)

[@brentc2411]

This is kinda needed, actual first hand documentation of just how predatory these business practices actually are. Even though it sucks handing $16k over to them. But, this isn't theoretical number crunching based on odds, it's undeniable evidence of just how insane these games are.

[@rebjorn79]

You should also see Bellular's series on this. They dive in deep.

[@zenoblues7787]

Exactly if it cost 16,000 for 1 5/5 gem imagine how much you'd need to spend to full deck out a character. Much less the added cost to fully upgrade those gems which requires progressively more duplicates. This is needed it's a real world example everyone can point at to show how ridiculous the monetization in this game is. The original 110,000 estimate was likely lowballing based on the best possible circumstances.

[@chainswordcs]

This. I absolutely agree that I don't want any more money to go to Activision-Blizzard, but it is what it is. It is somewhat useful and nice to have empirical evidence of the terrible monetization systems in place, and it's not *my* money to spend anyway so I can't be too upset at some streamer.

[@celiafrostborn]

This game will receive the record for the most predatory monetization as well as the lowest rated game. Blizzard should be proud they suck so bad and have earned those titles for Diablo immortal XD.

[@chainswordcs]

Also, this is the same company that made $24,000,000 in two weeks from this stupid game. This one streamer only accounts for 0.07% of that total. 🤷‍♀️ I guess I'm trying to say that there's no need for in-fighting

[@SFSomega]

Blizzard says thank you for that 15k statement he made. Very powerful indeed, much wow. He really showed them.

[@Tiriumski]

15k is not even a peanut crumb for a company like activision blizzard.

[@DK-421]

Then you have the one guy that paid ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS and didn't get a single 5-Star legendary gem.

[@manilowgamer]

They deserve what they get.

[@KDriz1]

Is this a real person that did this or a general statement?

[@Faust_YT]

@@KDriz1 Someone did spent that much. You can check it on Asmon channel, he reacted to it.

[@taekan625]

@@KDriz1 it's real, and called it an "investment"

[@uuu12343]

@@taekan625 Yo WTF

[@a.m.7438]

Remember when you could play a game and discover secrets that unlocked characters/costumes/hidden weapons and it was designed through creative puzzles and the environment encouraged exploration and engagement? Imagine FFX now. Paying to unlock spheres on the level grid. Paying to play in the arena for special weapons. Imagine the hell it would be if released today.

[@joro8693]

100% the customers fault. I don’t feel bad for anyone anymore who ever buys games that have monetization. There is absolutely no excuse for the last 5 years to expect a company to be any different than this. You kept giving them an inch with just cosmetics and now you have this.

[@FatalParadox]

@@joro8693 I completely agree. Why people keep giving these companies there money just to complain about it is beyond me. Protest with your wallets people stop buying there trash and they will be forced to make a decent game.

[@XxMeatShakexX]

Damn he really epic trolled them spending 16k on something we already knew!

[@wouterfaes2309]

nononono , you are very wrong about that . Quin actually proved the point to sooo many people . The 16k he had to pay for that is nothing . He made sure they lost MILLIONS because of him! Quin is an actual good guy

[@leef1500]

Also his monetization from that video alone will easily pay for what he spent so it's really an investment.

[@maverickrx8]

@@wouterfaes2309 uh.... no.... he really didn't. This isn't going to do a damn thing. If people weren't playing the game by now, they weren't going to down the road. If people already playing the game didn't spend money in the first place, they weren't going to spend down the road anyway. This doesn't stop whales or light spenders. Your ignorance of the mobile market is excruciatingly painful. Hailing this guy as a fucking hero for paying a corporation 16k so he could tell us something everybody already knew is even worse.

[@xxprototypexx5056]

@@wouterfaes2309 LMFAOOO, no he didn't. People already knew the monetization was over 100k, proving something that has already been proving is pointless, because we all already know how bad it it. he's doing it for publicity and cash, not because he wanted to prove something. All he did was give them 16k, he became a whale and supported the very thing he was trying to "prove" was bad. Acting like he did anything other than that is just straight lying to yourself and others.

[@MascrisSensei]

@@wouterfaes2309 you are really a innocent dude eh? Did you think they do that for fans? Nah... More revenue and more views are what they after. The money he spent on that "test" is nothing. They come again for Diablo 4 and you should expect the very same "test"

[@Dexter01992]

It's all hilarious to hear until one realises the game is financially doing great as most people playing it are willingly spending money on it. We can review bomb it as much as we want. As long as these people keep proving the companies right, this trend will only get worse...

[@dustinnabil798]

That's the problem with whales. Even if they just make up 0.1% of Diablo Immoral player, they would still bring a lot of money to Blizzard from the sheer volume of their transaction.

[@Empress_Theresa]

To be fair some people also willing to spent money on a Ferrari, a Yacht, or on a trip to Vegas. If they have the cash to burn...I mean, who really cares, right?

[@krazyg1910]

@@Empress_Theresa it's because the scummy micro transitions trickle into other games and can possibly ruin ones you like

[@Dexter01992]

@@Empress_Theresa Problem is when the guy who can buy a Ferrari starts buying a cheap/medium city car and also buys all subscription services or unnecessary premium stuff (that normal people would unlikely get because they are unnecessary) that enforces car manufacturers to keep pushing on these things, affecting normal people who now get a "crippled" car that is now missing features as now they are "premium" features. Same is for these games.

[@dsan17]

@@Empress_Theresa Now Imagine if all cars are Ferrari's priced $200k and the only way to fly is by renting a private jet while you still earn the same as you do now. That's the danger of what's happening with games now. Pretty soon you'll have to pay real money to unlock riding a mount and accessing your storage in games.

[@DeadFishFactory]

Blizzard: Yes, people. This game is awful! Please keep testing and confirming that that rates are rigged.

[@chrisgill261]

With the closure of your shop, all Yong Merch is now legendary loot.

[@kaylafoxx41]

People need to also realize that even playing the game for free boosts it in algorithms. Playtime, downloads, everything. It all boosts the game. Stop playing it. I went a step further and I refuse to play ANY Blizzard games. I grew up on Diablo 2, put hundreds of hours into Overwatch and Diablo 3. I played three expansions of WoW. I loved Blizzard. Don't support their shit. Destroy them until they improve.

[@Nomadic813]

I loved blizzard circa 2000 to 2007 era. Post merger Activision Blizzard is not that. It's like a zombie of a loved one... Your daughter's dead man .. that thing out there isn't your daughter anymore

[@ricardohoang8452]

The best solution is not installing that piece of shit!

[@MikeHunchak]

Play it. It’s collecting critical analytics for the MMO assets moving to D4. Stop being ignorant. Don’t kill this series over something you don’t agree with.

[@jaredparks4713]

On the one hand, this is some great hands-on research that really shows just how awful this game truly is. On the other hand, this man gave Activision Blizzard $16K, which is _exactly_ what they want. They basically won here.

[@MyAramil]

would be funny if he charged back the money XD

[@LucianCanad]

I'd say it's a tie. Hopefully, his $16k makes thousands more people not give this game their money.

[@The_Gamer_91]

@Warlok...how?? Same for Elijah. The man gave Blizzard SIXTEEN THOUSAND dollars on in game currency...think about that. How much do you pay for a normal game? Between 60 to 70 dollars now...take $16K divided by that number....he gave them at least 228 full games worth of revenue there. People NEED to stop giving them money...this is EXACTLY what Blizzard wants.

[@TheNzFox]

@Warlok short term only? long term they release a trailer for diablo 4 and everyone gets collective amnesia. There is no long term consequences for anything these companies do when everyone pre-orders the next game anyway

[@sspectre8217]

the "don't you guys have phones?" guy is probably wiping of tears with 100$ bills right now

[@Gusanito1886]

The game made more than 24 million in it's first weeks. We as players can't stop this because there's a whole other group of mobile players who just throw their money into these sort of cashcow games. The only thing that can stop this is solid legislation. In Europe Consumers Associations from 18 countries have started working together against gambling in games.

[@hunterrhea2464]

While watching this video, I got a mid roll ad for Diablo: Immortal. The irony is killing me

[@MaxieM0us3]

I don’t care if streamers or youtubers spent 16k+ to “prove a point”, they’re still part of the problem of making gaming worse. Blizzard got their money, that’s all matters to the company.

[@BrainAbsoluteZero]

@G T Problem is that a lot of the execs see the short term gains and double down on them. They don't learn lessons from the money they don't receive, this is the kind of thing they point to and say "see we can make money here!"

[@astonmartin8537]

They are the ones that going to keep it alive longer.

[@SGT-Sasquatch]

100% agree. What makes it worse is that these streamers are using money donated to them by thier patreon supporters haha. So Blizzard is still getting the community's money even without them playing.

[@nagasadow99]

It's comparable to a necessary evil, if you had to take one life to save a thousand, if you can spend 16k to save people from spending millions then it's a win.

[@MascrisSensei]

It is actually a win-win situation. Streamers lost nothing since they get more money and views, meanwhile Blizzard got more funds to keep the game runs. What do they want to prove? Absolutely nothing except for gaining more views and revenue.

[@surething119]

I listen you while opening my shop up ever day because I can actually hear your voice. Awesome sound quality loud and clear. Appreciated

[@PainfullyCasual]

Bruh you can buy a real fcking gemstone irl with $16K.

[@iMarcism]

Plus a perfect cut diamond with great cut and clarity

[@PainfullyCasual]

@@iMarcism exactly!

[@kaibe5241]

The fact that they even did this test, when there's now a simulation app around, shows why Activision doesn't give a flying fuck. One person just spent sixteen grand.

[@warghostmonX]

They essentially brought real world economics into their games: those who have everything dominate everyone, and everyone else simply struggles to get by... we're not even allowed a place to relax anymore. No escape. No mercy. Just pain...

[@pvshka]

Kinda like with sports

[@TheOneWhoHasABadName]

try indie games instead, they usually don’t exploit you celeste costs at most $20, and with mods, you can literally get a thousand hours of fun gameplay to escape from the pain, you just need to find a different game. at least, it works for now, not sure if this will continue to work in the future

[@hiimmeurnot]

The fact that this franchise is named after satan is so 'on-the-nose' that it hurts.

[@wolfrainexxx]

$16,000 for Diablo's microtransactions? His spending equated to roughly 266.66 game sales at $60 per copy. Basically, he just proved why microtransactions exist, and why they target "whales."

[@RandyCivilized]

I'm just imagining blizzard as that gif of Tallahassee wiping his tears with money from zombieland when they read that tweet

[@darkgamer87]

we are living in a time where 1 digital item costs more than a whole big videogame collection. wonderful...

[@taliban_skate_vids]

25k is enough to change my life for the better and would help me back on my feet. The future is a terrifying thing.

[@maccamachine]

fr me too that’s insane man and i wish you luck

[@PeterCaptainObvious]

Same here man

[@cloudri]

clearly!!!! was anybody really expecting anything less from the company like this🤬🤬🤢🤮

[@Zathurious]

When I saw a video where streamers were bragging about spending 20,000+ dollars to dominate the pvp arena, I was so disgusted. Do these people not realize they just spent an amount equivalent to the yearly income of working class Americans?

[@budderk1305]

lmao, no they don't

[@GothPaoki]

Diablo immortal has earned 24 millions so far from what I've read today. It is the epitome of greedy,scummy move and unfortunately for gaming as a whole it fk worked like a charm. The future of gaming looks grim. If companies can make millions with minimal effort on a mobile phone game why invest more on pc and console games? It obviously pays off despite the backlash so who tf cares. Companies got the message that they can be scummy and they will be rewarded for it. It sets a precedent. Also I've had enough with people who call out the game and still spend thousands on it. And i don't get the argument streamers show the game and do it for their audience. They are part of the problem as well as their audience if that's the case.

[@DeetotheDubs]

I agree with everything but that last part. I hope that the demonstration of how much money it took hits harder than just saying it sucks and that this ultimately means that fewer people spend money there. If two whales are turned away from spending thousands of dollars and hours, it may be worth it.

[@andy764]

Nah, not that grim. There are many great games you can buy and play without any monetization. Just avoid Activision Blizzard and EA all together.

[@mailiflower8094]

There are still indie game devs and smaller companies that you can give your money to instead. Funding them instead of the big corps will allow competition to remain in the market instead of being crushed out by lazy games and apps.

[@MrProg-ey3tl]

The future of gaming lies with small indie studios as long as they stop making games that are just glorified art projects.

[@thyruos6499]

This is why I uninstalled bnet and all games I had associated with it. I really do enjoy some of their other games, but boycotting all blizzard game, old and new, is my little way of refusing to continue to financially support a company like this.

[@kildaver]

"Do you guys not have money?" I expect the expansion to this game to literally mug the player. I expect the game to literally club you on the back of the head, you wake up, have a rare item, and have one less kidney.

[@GholaTleilaxu]

I expect the fan base to literally take one of _their_ kidneys as a trophy.

[@elricmcewan7299]

Hey...you're finally awake

[@Khaisz.]

8:40 that clip is actually even better with the stuff just before it, because he used that 5/5 gem to upgrade a 1/1 gem before quitting.

[@lj1653]

congratulations on getting a 5 star gem in season 1 which lasted 30 days! season 2 features new gear and new gems that are twice as powerful, so get ready to do it all again next season!

[@JRMelancon]

“Ooooh nooooo. Please stop ‘teaching us this lesson’. We can’t handle any more giant influxes of cash!” -Blizzard all the way to the bank Seriously, anytime that streamer wants to “teach me a lesson”, I have some student loans that I’d like to pay off.

[@JackieFrankieful]

This streamer who spent $16K got all the money back from youtube and twitch. He gained even more than he spent

[@JRMelancon]

@@JackieFrankieful cool…and Blizzard still got $16,000. That’s like defending your home by pelting robbers with bags of money. I’m sure they’ll totally learn their lesson if we just keep throwing ridiculous sums of money at them “for the lulz”.

[@sabrinarosario6499]

@@JRMelancon Completely agree. Blizzard doesn’t care about the bad rep, they just wanted those 15k and they got it and they will get more from people with addictive personalities and whales and streamers.

[@janniknielsen9292]

@@JRMelancon Well, I can see your point of view, especially if I completely dismiss the lesson he was trying to teach, like you have.

[@janniknielsen9292]

@@sabrinarosario6499 The point is to discourage potential addicts from even touching the game, dipping their toes into it spending money.

[@emilecaitan2067]

"Do you guys not have phones?" Do you guys not have self-respect?

[@evencesampeur10]

swimming in their pool at their millions dollar penthouse, laughing at dumb people who feed them money, no they will not have shame.

[@farqueleyou7578]

Two words: "Cosby Suite". No, they do not have self-respect, or respect for anyone or anything else.

[@Strider_Shinryu]

Correction: The video states that "Blizzard is facing the consequences" but, let's be honest, they aren't. Does the game have a bad reputation amongst a lot of more dedicated gamers? Sure, but that doesn't really mean anything when there are tons more less dedicated gamers who will gladly pay (and play) along with a notable amount of dedicated gamers who are also still defending the game and Blizzard. And is "everyone" leery of what they're going to do with D4? Sure, but look at how much traction all of the previous social actions against ActiBlizz have actually hurt them. Remember Blitzchung? Bobby Kotick? Mass sexual harassment and staff abuse? Union busting? If it has an ActiBlizz IP on the box it will sell and sell big. Period. There are no actual consequences here. Edit: Heck, even in the Quinn video he still keeps Diablo 2 Ressurected and Diablo 3 installed. So much conviction....

[@zephyr8072]

Well it helps that many of those “hard working devs” are sex pests who never deserved thr praise they were given. Blizzard should be completely abandoned by anyone of right mind. Let them wallow in their Chinese money pit like the soulless drones they are.

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

The consequences will be that their hardcore audience that used to buy all their games is more and more alienated by devs.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

They don't even need a ton of players because of just expensive this game is

[@Anomen77]

It still only earned them 10% of what diablo 3 did though.

[@zephyr8072]

@@manoftherainshorts9075 They. Don't. Care. The whales and the Chinese audience will generate more revenue in a month than their hardcore audience did in years. Their reputation and their legacy are easy sacrifices to make for all that money.

[@noone3216]

Amazing. This video kicked off with an ad for diablo immortal lol

[@heximiasmagaming3995]

Ok, so to break it down. $16K for 1 5/5 star gem, + 5 more times = nearly $100K, then to get to the awakening stage, you have to pump up each gem 10x's, so now we see a $1 mil price tag before awakening. WTAF!!! Who in their right mind is paying this much!?!?

[@ricardohoang8452]

@@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361 You underestimate whale and poseidon kiddos in the US

[@yomin2162]

If you have 16k, go buy a physical 2-carat diamond instead. It'll last longer than this game.

[@ben8929]

@@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361 Most of the whales in these games are not rich kids sadly. They are usually normal people that can not afford to spend so much, but still do it because of their addiction and end up ruining their lives.

[@XXETU972]

He sure showed blizzard by uninstalling after giving them 16,000 dollars

[@NomicFin]

I honestly don't understand mobile gamers. Like, I'd assume most of them are casual gamers as people really into gaming would likely buy a dedicated gaming console or PC instead of just playing games on their phone. Yet there's apparently enough people willing to spend thousands of dollars on these games to sustain not just one or a couple of games but pretty much the entire mobile game industry, as this kind of stuff is standard across mobile games even if most aren't quite as bad as Diablo Immortal, meaning it can't just be one or two people with too much money in their hands. How the hell are there so many people who think spending thousands of dollars on low-quality shovelware games is in any way a reasonable thing to do to sustain an entire industry?

[@codycigar6542]

Wow, he really showed them. Gave them 16k then stopped playing. I'm sure Blizzard will feel very bad about him slamming the game.

[@GholaTleilaxu]

That POS is mocking us all with his 16K that he can probably spend 10x over.

[@Mike-vn8sn]

Can you imagine spending $16,000 on a game? It's pretty crazy to think that someone could actually spend that much on a game

[@Drimirin]

Right. That amount of money could literally change my life and people piss it away on stuff like this.

[@wishlistdestoroyah8245]

My friend's wife's friend spend 40000 cad on cellphone games monthly.....so this really don't surprise me at all

[@Yinzermakesvids]

Star citizen plebs

[@topkekmemes1675]

16k won't change your life you fool. And if 16k is alot of money for you then maybe u should focus on your career instead of playing games.

[@astygmatyzm9071]

@@wishlistdestoroyah8245 unless your friend is an oligarch, i find that hard to believe.

[@xxx-ff9gw]

Actually it’s pretty ironic that I got an ad for Diablo immortal on this video 😂 I actually had an ad before and a banner ad under the video the entire time

[@romainbanks356]

The fist ever Pay 2 Loose, incredible feat from Bli$$ard!

[@Nanashinoshi]

The fun part: Yes all this monetization is bad. But all these streamers dumping ALL this money into the game just to show HOW BAD the monetization is, is actually putting money in Blizzards coffers...making the game extremely profitable. Either way, this game JUST made the company bank. Thanks streamers.

[@misterymisterio8778]

The streamers are actually making money since they get way more with donations. And yeah this is a huge sucess for blizzard, and for no small part due to viewers and streamers.

[@cubedmelons876]

To be fair, whatever streamers spend on the game is probably offset by all the people watching them who will then realize how bad it is and not download the game. The streamers are costing Activision-Blizzard new players.

[@fatty1040]

Bruh you really mad at streamers over PSAs.

[@Nomoon777]

Not really, we are talking about 10-30 streamers? a bit more? this is not even 1% of their revenue, on the other hand they caused quite a bit of brand damage by showing it. By what i saw their revenue was 24 millions in the first week, so no the streamers made them no profit really.

[@RvnWolf]

Pretty sure it's not all the streamers it's those few delusional streamers and whales defending Immortal

[@thisislenin7800]

love your content , i watched you for the first time a couple of years ago , really good points , good with your next endeavors

[@TheGoondas87]

So apparently to fully rank up your gems you need a total of 444 gems to get all 6 slots fully ranked up. So you'd be looking at $6,660,000 to get a fully upgraded character going off this guys luck. To all those complaining that the $100,000 figure wasnt legit, I wish that was the legit figure.

[@Ziegfried82]

These types of "games" need government regulation. Heavy handed regulation at that. This is gambling, and it needs to be labeled as such. They should be forced to show the odds to win on the title screen. I've seen videogames blamed for all sorts of stupid things, but stuff like Diablow Immoral is genuinely harmful because it's pushing gambling on minors, and being dishonest with everyone about it's mechanics. All game companies who are doing this need to be slapped down hard.

[@PKFireFawx]

I wouldn't be so quick to call for stuff like this. For ages (in the US, anyway) there's been people trying to get legislature passed/lawsuits filed for gaming that isn't predatory like this, predicated entirely nonsensical ideas about gaming and gaming culture's effect on society. If this door is opened just for garbage like this, it opens the door for worse legislation to chain down completely legitimate games. I for one think game companies SHOULD release absolute trash so that it can affect their bottom line and let other more legitimate companies beat them out in the market. The last thing anybody should want are possible corrupt politician's/lawmaker's hands mucking up the entire industry.

[@Karaksonen]

As much as it sucks for folks who are victim to their addictions, the last thing we need is daddy gov to legislate and fiddle with even more things. This would affect legit games as well.

[@NeloBladeOfRanni]

@@Karaksonen this but these people want daddy government to do everything for them lmao

[@rururu5630]

@@NeloBladeOfRanni Govern me harder, daddy.

[@dublindutch6346]

well said, hilarious comments about "daddy government" btw haha. If it was up to them we would have blackjack tables in kindergartens, without daddy government oversight haha.

[@DaBroheimer]

The only point he made is that he was stupid enough to spend 16k on a shitty mobile game.

[@hannabal96]

He paid 16k for that, he sure showed blizzard...

[@redohealer2]

Took one for the team I guess?

[@sauron7175]

We call them "pay pigs"

[@dangerousninjax9475]

Way to go, you spend that money

[@CharlesTembo]

I see your point but from his perspective it's more providing a real life anecdote for just how appalling the Microtransactions are, whilst also making good content/getting his name out there as a streamer.

[@keiko431]

Yeah I was thinking just that! It's so stupid "Ohhhh look at me I spent 16K and now I gonna leave the game" and I thought nft/cripto bros were dumbs

[@jonjim1265]

Bloody hell someone gave away almost 1 bitcoin to blizzard? ... bloody hell

[@darxrogue]

bloody hell

[@LoganHunter82]

Crikey!

[@keithadams7619]

Y'know, if you sank 16k into a game the publisher isn't going to give fuck what you think because they got your money.

[@vinny_n_p]

The first thing I thought when people said this game cost 100k to max out, was that this is only the beginning. The next update and so on cap will increase, forever!

[@PoisonClaw4]

I still feel like this is a step backward. Yes, great that there is a clear example of how predatory games like Diablo Immortal can be... but at the end of the day they still gave $16k to Blizzard, which is exactly what the company wants. They don't care about the average player playing for free or spending a few bucks, they only care about the "Whales" (their term, not mine!) who will gladly fill their pockets with money with stunts like this.

[@SuperHornetX]

If he stops 10,000+ people from playing and potentially spending money, that's a win.

[@calvin2005can]

Still an L tbh. That's $16k gone. No streamers or people should be even supporting this with a single $1 even. Just screams hypocrites tbh.

[@mrmwm5446]

None of this is going to dissuade whales from spending, but I hope it will stop the average player from thinking all they have to do is spend a couple hundred and get lucky to get what they want.

[@biggs2560]

@@SuperHornetX OK, can you prove he stopped 10k people from playing it? For all we know, the only people applauding this move were people who were never going to play Immortal anyway. All in all, a HUGE waste of $16k just for the hope that it MIGHT turn people off.

[@warhamsterful]

You're right, people should only play games you approve in ways you approve them to play! I was planning to play some minecraft later, don't plan on spending any money, is this ok with you?

[@khaychi]

We've investigated ActvisionBlizzard executives for signs of corporate greed, like exploding wallets or newly bought million dollar mansions, but couldn't find any. *-ActivisionBlizzard, 2022*

[@warchant59]

Quin can be a clown but when push comes to shove, he is so awesome to have put this on display. He stated from the get go that he didn't want people to spend money on D:I. It's a suckers trap. He put it on full blast. Props to Quin69!

[@ikikaera3402]

I don't like his content as he can be well over the top for me, but I think what he did was pretty great. You could argue he dropped $15k into Blizzard's pockets but on the other hand the amount of articles and publicity this stunt received was quite staggering. A lot of people who weren't aware of D:I's systems are going to see this. And whether or not this may have helped, we'll have to wait and see for that I guess. It's a valiant effort nonetheless.

[@biggs2560]

Why are we cheering him? He foolishly gave Blizzard over $10k, and for what? Nah, he's a clown.

[@MonoDree]

@@biggs2560 I guess you didn't see the comment above explaining why this stunt is a good thing for us gamers. It lets all the ignorant players know thier efforts to get that one item can be useless, unless they spend a small fortune. This is a good showcase for how bad the grind is even when using money.

[@amunago080]

We already knew it was a cash grab. Its been all over the internet since its announcement.

[@gothamcitygoon2491]

@@biggs2560 He may potentially end up causing them to lose more money in the long run since a lot of people who might've spent money on the game might not now they see just how terribly designed the system is. And besides, an extra 10k to them isn't really gonna mean anything in the long run, but the potential loss from bad publicity could end up losing them more than that.

[@mxmissy]

On one hand, I am happy that people have figured out and told people how much money it is to sink into Diablo Immortal. BUT on the other hand, it's fucking annoying that people who have shown how much money it takes, has still given Blizzard-Activision bucketloads of money.

[@RobotMasterSplash]

$16k is nothing compared to the bad publicity against profit goals that are in the hundreds of millions. Use your brain for a moment and stop looking at the value of $16k from your personal perspective, then you wont be so upset.

[@sheesh1991]

Yong…you probably won’t believe me, but the first ad to pop up for me on this video was an ad for Diablo Immortal…

[@dualisticmix]

Blizzard lost it's "Gaming Soul" years ago when they were aquired by the cancer of gaming known as Activision unfortunately. All of the disappointments in recent years (aside from the scandals) have all been in the guise of Activision loot box corporate nonsense, and monetization over quality.

[@jameskarg3240]

get over it, base-game sales DONT make back what the creation-cost tabulates to anymore. If that WASENT true, THIS shit wouldnt even need to exsist. P2W is your ONLY hope of defaulting your income for products anymore. Hell lets be WORSHIPFUL the modding community hasent figured out how to monetize their works (yet)

[@dualisticmix]

@@jameskarg3240 Totally wrong. You have no clue what you are talking about if you think P2W is the "only way". There are plenty of games with monetization that doesn't kill its product without extreme methods, or loot boxes. You made the assumption that I was talking about no monetization at all when I am mainly speaking of the extremes Activision has done with their own games that have even killed their own games quality. See Call of Duty. If monetization is done properly, not only does it keep the profits rolling on to keep the company going but when done well doesn't affect game quality.

[@jameskarg3240]

@@dualisticmix sadly too many want these emthods gone in their totality. Trouble is: we do that, EVERY gaming company pulls a "Michigan" on us, packs up, and just LEAVES the Gaming genere to rot like the Auto-Giants did to the Rust Belt. Corporate Rage-Quitting on "ungreatful masses" Cant deny Acty has EVERY right at this point to go all-in on the PR war and just mock us with "You keep talkin, but NOTHIN is happenin! WE think your all just not even trying to work hard enough for your paychecks like WE work" And theyd 100% get away with it. "freedom of speech, without threats, is a constitutional right"

[@weertangel7231]

Thats Quin for u, he can be quite the performer but when he's serious he goes hard and fast. The Allcraft episode he did with Asmon,Rich and Josh strives Hayes on the subject was very informative, u should give it a look Yongyea :)

[@TheSilverwing999]

Yeah lol, because he likes content and money. Who wouldn't go fast then.

[@johnny88j9]

Blizzard is tunnelling into Hell much to the annoyance of Satan.

[@roberttirpak5447]

Blizzard has made history with Diablo Immortal. People will look back to this for years to come and use this as an example for the "bad reasons" from now on.

[@chrispritchard2331]

You’re joking right? If the whales keep spending, then expect other studios to follow the new monetisation model.

[@ricardohoang8452]

@@chrispritchard2331 Ah yes those whale and poseidon kiddos

[@VicStrange9]

Or not. Or it will be remembered as the start of a new wave of monetisation. We live in that timeline. People complain, but the money keeps flowing, and at the end of the day, its money what talks.

[@matsuoakatsu]

I wonder if this can eventually lead to regulations for gambling and microtransactions in mobile games

[@InsaniaTHEGREATONE]

Wow he's such a hero for testing the game with 16k free money for blizzard, very nice keep going

[@JackieFrankieful]

This streamer who spent $16K got all the money back from youtube and twitch. He gained even more than he spent

[@InsaniaTHEGREATONE]

@@JackieFrankieful no shit, but the company got what they wanted

[@TiaguinhuxD]

15K then quitting the game? nice investiment, nice way to prove a point .___. well, i'm back to PoE thanks to Diablo :D

[@malemuffin64]

Its always funny to me, making the greedy company richer to pwn them.

[@LtColShingSides]

It's like Blizzard is gunning for the top spot on the Worst Rated Games Ever list.

[@reagansido5823]

This guy was really just "it's not about the money, it's about sending a message."

[@DemonicAkumi]

The message was "Thanks for that $16k, idiot. Don't care you're trash talking our game."

[@reagansido5823]

@@DemonicAkumi so what you're saying is that the guy who spent 16K on the game is sending a message saying "thanks for the 16K" You really butchered this comeback.

[@DemonizerxD]

Yongyea using that FOMO on his shop, good move :x

[@veliceligt02]

All he needed was that +400% value!!! tag =D

[@jamesforteze1282]

Also, sounds like Yong screwed over his partner. Yong has several revenue streams, his merch partner probably only had the merch. So Yong just said F-You, I'll shut it down. That's what it sounds like happened. Who knows, but the way he explained it sounds like one guy at least got screwed in the deal, and considering Yong is happy with how things are going, it wasn't him.

[@AusSP]

@@jamesforteze1282 He's definitely working with a professional company, though. It's not one guy sowing his hats and painting his lootboxes with no other revenue streams of his own. Yong doesn't sell *that* much stuff.

[@matheusnunes1294]

intersting how the user's score in metacritic has reached its worse numbers just with modern games like fifa, nfl, nba, blizard and betesda games

[@ehlert99]

And yet they will make money 😔

[@MyAramil]

Im actually not interested in starfield till it is out for a month or so XD

[@lucianobruzzone537]

Congratulations Quin, you did exactly what Blizzard wanted. You think they care about the negative comments on twitter? If tt was true, they wouldnt have released the game in the first place. As long as people pay (no matter the reason) Blizzard and many other will continue to release p2w games.

[@upthebracket26]

He really pwned the Dev's there

[@will4673]

Lmao….yeah totally ! He seems like a smart money manager.

[@snapperl]

@@will4673 I suspect he earned WAYYYY more than 16K by having tons of viewers during that run, some of those twitch guys are making mad bank.

[@jarotheboar8398]

Here's something that makes your brain cells boil even more A twitch streamer spent a lot of money, and his defense was so dense, he LITERALLY admitted he's a gambler, saying "It's not that bad" He LITERALLY proved why we hate it, stupid decisions every time

[@taags]

Gamblers are who they want to ”play” this game.

[@XxBattlesnipexX]

These streamers that “test” these issues are the real problem. They have gambling addictions and use this as a cover up just to fuel their habits.

[@lil.bunnii]

LOL what

[@XxBattlesnipexX]

@@lil.bunnii just stating what I think 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@RobotMasterSplash]

Idiot logic. This kind of bad press is worth far more than a measly 16k.

[@medicusofthedamned]

We know it takes a lot of money to get the gems. Donate the money to charity not the losers who think loot boxes are ethical.

[@rabbitguts2518]

Instead of lambasting someone for using their own hard earned money to prove to other would be customers how predatory it is, how about to badger blizz to give to charity instead? Y'know the actual cause of this and a stupidly wealthy yet morally bankrupt company that could afford to fund multiple charities?

[@Ziegfried82]

@@rabbitguts2518 Blizzard needs to be held to account legally, and be forced to put an 18+ label on Diablow Immoral for being gambling. Games such as this should be forced to have a government label just like cigarettes that tells you it is gambling. EDIT: and the odds to win should also be forced to be put front and center at the title screen.

[@ghuttsmckenzie4269]

Or even just yet use that money for something else and enjoy themselves, they can go to a fancy ass restaurant or get a good hobby with the money they pay instead of feeding those greedy fools.