Death of rare palms in my garden: which and why.

[@MaxineChambers-y5o]

Thanks for sharing Chris, sorry to hear of the loss of your rare palms, all too often we only hear of the success but not often the losses. I too loss a waggie x princeps palm earlier this year. It looked fine, then took the protection off in the spring and it immediately fell away. It had been in the ground for 2 years. I also have a newly planted Butia x Queen Palm . I've protected it with a frost bag......gone out to double check it now.

[@newyorktropicalgarden9364]

Great video. Thank you. We all try hard, but sometimes it just doesn’t work.

[@Dimi.Exotic.Garden]

Hi Kris, sorry to see this.😔 It's never fun to lose plants, especially the more special varieties. Did you leave the palms in the open ground unprotected? Because they are still very small specimens and therefore still very vulnerable. You should at least keep them dry. And the trunks are also so narrow that the frost can easily reach the palm heart. So unprotected they have little chance, that is even with small Trachycarpus fortunei. I also see that the Butia x Jubaea is not deep enough in the ground. The roots are visible and therefore very vulnerable to frost. The thickest part of the trunk should be level with the soil surface. So always raise the ground when that happens and plant palms a little deeper. That is also always good for adventitious roots. Your Butyagrus is still alive and certainly has a chance of recovery. But it is now weak and vulnerable. It is best to keep it dry and avoid frost this winter. As long as the existing leaves remain nice and green and do not pinch closed, the palm is still alive. That fortunei x princeps also seems to me to still be alive because of those green healthy leaves. I would not give up on that yet. Place it indoors this winter so that it can perhaps recover and the soil can dry so that the roots do not rot further. Good luck and thanks for this honest video.😊👍 Greetings Dimi 🌴🇧🇪🌴

[@David_Banner]

I lost a small Princeps two winters ago. I have another one in a unheated garage, which I bought this year. I'm not taking any chances. My Fortunei x Princeps has done a lot better over the past couple of years in a pot outside in winter. Both these palms will be planted out this spring. I nearly bought a Butyagrus earlier in the year and now regret not doing so.

[@palmsexoticsuk2194]

Hi Kris, I find it encouraging that even a man of your calibre is killing palm trees at a similar rate to me! I think it’s just a mathematical certainty that a small percentage of seemingly healthy plants will perish for no obvious reason.

[@YorkshireKRIS]

That's pretty much how I look at it. I grow a lot of plants so some will die even with good growing condition and care

[@NikauPalmCal]

​​@@YorkshireKRIS I have found there are ways of keeping those fussy genetic palms happy/alive but if it wasn't a very rare palms that I only had one of. Probably best to let natural selection occur if the needs are already met!

[@TheBarefootedGardener]

Hey Kris, Sorry to hear that about those palms. I must say, I have had potted Trachycarpus “go to hell and back” since I live in NY. I bet that the princeps x waggy would have a tiny spear if you have it indoors, and gradually cut back the dead stuff, peroxide, etc. the specific plant I’m thinking of I didn’t water much at all, but I don’t know if that would be applicable for that plant.

[@KayLowe-jp3tx]

Great video, we all cross our finger coming out of the winter, think mine are OK so far, let's hope January and February are kind to us 🙂

[@YorkshireKRIS]

Fingers crossed!

[@Hollywiththeflowers]

I really enjoy your pragmatism on your plants. As sad as it can be when we loose our favourites, it’s always a risk when dealing with living things. I’ve only got a couple of palm trees, I live on the south east coast and have a sheltered microclimate so I would like to try more types. I can see why you have a passion for them. I’ve got one pretty large palm, I have absolutely no idea what it is because I found it in someone’s rubbish. Do you know how I could go about identifying it? I’m not currently a member of any forums. It’s a gorgeous plant & I want to be sure I’m giving it good care. Thanks kris 🍀

[@tntropics]

fungus in your dense and wet areas will attack weak/cold damaged plants at temps especially over 65F/18C

[@RichardABW]

Did the Butyagrus come from Hardy Palms? Is it worth giving some copper fungicide a go?

[@YorkshireKRIS]

@RichardABW I did, yes got it from hardy palms a few years back. I should have used fungicide in spring but thought the warmth of summer would have seen it regrow

[@RichardABW]

@@YorkshireKRIS I've recently picked up a previously cold damaged Butyagrus capitata (for free unbelieveably) that the guy thought was dead, he was having a general clear out. When we had a look in the polytunnel it had made a stumpy leaf that he wasn't aware of. I'm pretty sure it's going to be ok. Worth waiting for to see.

[@bloggalot4718]

Chris, I see Americans recommending using hydrogen peroxide on the centre stem to kill the fungi. Got to be worth a try?

[@YorkshireKRIS]

Yes I've done that before and does work. I should have tried that with these. I thought the warmth of summer would have seen growth either way

[@SteveKxyz]

Too wet in the crown?

[@philippehoyez9398]

Great example of where negligence and laziness lead !

[@GrahamHenderson25x]

steady on, your stupidity is showing !!

[@ericnyamu9981]

you havenot lost any palms. you just donot know how to get roots to regrow again. i can assure you just putting this 'dead' palms in water for a long period f time will reactivate the root system and you can then return them into soil. if you want to get palms to root put them in water they love it.