You are UNGRATEFUL if you complain about Sims 4!

[@Itsachapel]

Why should I be greatful when I pay 20-60 dollars a pack, it’s not like I’m getting it for free or out of the goodness of their hearts. I’m paying for it

[@primrosett]

If you go to a store and buy, say, a laptop and then bring it home and find out that it's unable to connect to the internet and missing a bunch of keys in the keyboard, you wouldn't say "oh well, I'm sure the manufacturers worked very hard to put this out there, I should just be glad I have it". No! You'd make complaints and want your money back because you were given a defective product! Sims 4 is a PRODUCT just as much as that laptop and as paying consumers we have every right to point out where it's lacking or defective.

[@Barzarel]

Add to that most probably by digital downloads, so they don't have any expenses on printing out hard copies or anything like that on digital sales.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

@Killsad That's the million dollar question.

[@Itsachapel]

@@gigisneckofthewoods facts

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

@Barzarel Exactly. The codes cost them nothing and it's basically all profit. That's the sickening part. They make so much money and refuse to invest in the game.

[@AnimalLover101195]

1:48 "IT'S SO HARD TO CREATE FUNCTIONAL BUNK BEDS" Then there's modders creating open word mods, full on farming mods, Sacrificial's super in-depth fame and violence mods. The modder creating functional items for toddlers on their own. then there's the Paralives group of like 5 or so people creating a whole ass game from scratch from almost purely Patreon donations that seemingly will include more than a sims base game could ever dream of!

[@LawWonderTV9]

Yes. Too bad that consoles don't get the modder's treatment. And as a console gamer like myself, that's a big alienation to the XBoxers and the PlayStation Fanatics.

[@BKNTD]

Sims 4/EA stans are watching all of those fan-creations closely only to find even the smallest bugs and mistakes. Just so they can have a "gotcha" moment and "prove that EA isn't the only one making mistakes". It's sad that fans with limited time and resources, as well as small indie teams have to outshine a multi billion dollar company in something they've been doing for over two decades.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

@The Beikonated I really wonder about those type of people. Don't they have lives, friends, hobbies to devote time to? I know people think I am "negative" and "mean" but I've never been that obsessed. My main wish is to inform as many people about EA and their horrible business practices and help them make good purchasing decisions.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

@Sergeant LawWonder I really wish consoles could get some of the better mods. Unfortunately, I believe that is a Playstation or XBox closed ecosystem problem. I highly doubt EA really wants console to get access to free content either. Such a sad situation.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

@onequartercanadian I didn't get to add this part to the video but SimGuruGrant wrote a tweet about how modders don't have to deal with making sure the mods they make work in lots of different situations, like the Sims Team have to. Right...stuff doesn't work half the time, so this testing and bug fixes you mention, when are you doing them? twitter.com/SimGuruGrant/status/1080911527710879744

[@primrosett]

They're right... we're hurting the fee-fees of this poor, poor multi-billion dollar company :( It takes A LOT of work, time and effort to rip off not just Sims players, but players across several gaming genres!

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

It takes so much time and effort to make endless retextures and recycled content too. ;)

[@Adorienn]

They're acting as if EA is a charity or something

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Or a tiny indie developer that needs protecting.

[@elise6970]

No I’m acting like the devs work their asses off, EA is the greedy asshole the devs are just doing their best. And whenEVER we get something we want like farming there are always people saying “where’s horses ! >:(“ the real problem with the community is that y’all are never happy, and expect the world to fall at your footsteps. If you want something, go get a different game.

[@mewntay230]

@Elise Bauer Exactly! Game developers are treated horribly with the amount of work they put in.

[@madamechaos5800]

@@elise6970 They "work their ass off" because it is their job. If they don't like it, they can quit.

[@grasslover6202]

@@elise6970 and if you don't like their opinion you can also leave wth, it would be better than fanatically defending that bunch of a shit EA did to TS4 lol like honestly get a life

[@Sam_Kings]

I am sick of this anti consumer attitude, especially from movie and game journalists. Though some normal people also seem to do it. They need to get it through their heads that these companies aren't doing us a favour. They are providing a product that we use our hard earned money to buy. And, if it isn't up to standard, we have a right to complain. Even if it hurts the feelings of those involved in making it.

[@mastermind4499]

Exactly. I can't believe it's that hard to understand.

[@lea-sega]

Corporations literally have as a goal to create a sort of "religion" around their brand or product, so none of this is natural, it's a fabrication. That's why movie and game journalists (who are backed by these corporations) spread this anti consumer attitude. This is only going to get worse with time btw

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Just something to keep in mind on the games journalist front. A lot of game developers/game publishers put advertisements for their games specifically on major gaming websites. If you say bad things about the games and bite the hand that feeds you, you go hungry. I never understood how that wasn't a conflict of interest but most gaming websites are dying anyway, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Sam_Kings]

@@gigisneckofthewoods I suppose that is true enough. However, people can see a shill a mile away. This is why games journalism is such a joke these days. We all know they've been brought off. It's also why no one cares what they think. So the choice becomes to say what game publishers want you to say and be ridiculed by your consumers or be honest.

[@hungoverpuppy3907]

I'm just imagining if we had that same "SHUT UP AND BE GRATEFUL" attitude to everything in life, nothing would never get done or change

[@SammyLammy1D]

Yeah like, "I won't use your preferred pronounce, but at least I am not saying slurs. Shut up and be grateful!" (I got told that yesterday. And no, that is NOT acceptable.) Or "you got a package of old milk? Well, someone milked that cow! BE GRATEFUL!"

[@briellehuxley4248]

Exactly, I don’t like people who is use”shut up and be grateful” as an argument

[@Schaemia]

Imagine. A chef gets your order wrong. SHUT UP AND BE GRATEFUL. Your university professor/teacher sucks and you don't learn anything. SHUT UP AND BE GRATEFUL. Your president makes stupid decisions. SHUT UP AND BE GRATEFUL. Oh good lord...

[@giallotapes]

That’s because they’re cowards who benefit from the status quo.

[@ketaminepoptarts]

if everyone thought that when someone complained, then we wouldnt even have fire yet

[@avamurphy4876]

This is exactly why I can’t stand the game changers anymore, I understand that seeing negativity hurled at a game you like can be frustrating but seeing them nearly cry over a recycled asset with a different mesh is just too much at this point. They call people ungrateful when people who PAY for this game ask for good content when they got handed the pack for free and MADE money from it! They get excited over shit with a bow on it and think saying “we need more plants :((((“ is actual criticism. I don’t wanna sound cruel but it really fucks with me that these are the people who have been given the power to influence the game and they do nothing. Well, apart from tell me in every fucking build video that I should pay $10 for Moschino stuff just for the windows..

[@xcalium9346]

Game changers are just influncers at the end of the day. I don't follow any. They're literally just advertizing. They are Maxis and EA's PR department, and yet people act like they are being geniune lmao.

[@TheDarkAngel396]

@@xcalium9346 Same. I watch some vids sometimes but just for laughs, and never reviews. I don't care for the sales pitches, you guys, I'm sorry. 😂😂

[@avamurphy4876]

@@xcalium9346 I don’t think they actually get paid to say good things so people think if they’re not getting money they must be genuine, but they literally make money producing content on ANYTHING related to the pack of course they’re not gonna shit on the packs and loose their early access privileges. Not to mention any sims 4 fan will be looking for early access content before they buy the pack so early access content is gonna be really popular. The idea that they make no money is so stupid lol But of course EA not paying them directly means they’re not biased at all..

[@AnatasiaCalista]

(>_>) me bought Moschino because some nice cc/ mod I saw required it. Regret it ever since. At least bought it on discount though.

[@moondivine2288]

I just treat game changers as regular people with their channels. They are allowed to have their opinions. And so I’m i. If I don’t agree with their opinion I don’t buy the pack. Simple as that. And there are reviewers that aren’t afraid to give their honest opinions

[@AleksandrMachkov]

If it's so difficult to create a new items, and 10 people working on just one item - how one CC creator making stuff pack faster and better quality than EA?

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

I wasn't able to put everything I wanted into this video, but I did find a comment from SimGuruGrant that basically said that modders don't have to deal with all the stuff they have to, when The Sims Team makes a pack.

[@LadyMisalein]

@@gigisneckofthewoods i would love some transparency on what that is tbh... , to know more about the restrictions they under. To UNDERSTAND why things are as bad as they are Otherwise modders always will make the gurus and whole team look bad ... If they need servial months discussing furniture/clothing/gameplay concept arts they maybe should rework that workstyle a bit

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Here's the tweet from Grant. twitter.com/SimGuruGrant/status/1080911527710879744

[@AlexDuck]

@@gigisneckofthewoods that's hilarious BS!!! Modders and CC creators do so much of the work for S4 and they do it for FREE. How absolute garbage to disparage them. Didn't see them complaining when they started contracting YTbers to build lots for them or did the whole Featured CC thing.

[@caitlin8274]

After the release of Dream Home Decorator I saw a comment on one of James Turner’s videos that showcased the MULTIPLE MULTIPLE bugs in the new pack. The comment said that “Game changers should take up game testing for EA since packs are being released in such a state of disrepair” and it was the highest rated comment on the video with thousands of likes. HUH? You want people to volunteer to do UNPAID work as game testers to help EA? We as consumers should not do anything for free to “help” multibillion dollar corporations. They need to be paying their game testers to do their actual job. You wouldn’t walk into a Walmart and start mopping the floors for free just because it’s a mess would you? So why should we feel that way about EA?

[@AnatasiaCalista]

I think that comment meant to be sarcastic because EA obviously can't do it.

[@TheDarkAngel396]

They need to decide if they want the GCs to be unpaid marketing or unpaid QC, I'd say. Cos if they're both, EA really ought to pay them TBH 😂😂😂

[@caitlin8274]

@@TheDarkAngel396 I’ve never thought about that. Yeah the game changers get free game codes but it’s essentially free labor for EA. Doing free advertising for a multibillion dollar corporation? Could never be me

[@TheDarkAngel396]

@@caitlin8274 I've always thought of influences as a marketing unit with no proper job protections. I mean, they are here selling the 99th pack to us as is the regular marketing department. The only difference is the second have proper employment contracts and don't have to ruin their name publicly. If I were to be a shill very hypothetically, codes and a few trips is not payment enough but that's just me 😜😂😂

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

The main problem with QA testing is there isn't time made for it and EA's motto is push it out, fix it later. These two problems mean the game is always in a state of brokenness.

[@stxrstruck6755]

THIS IS UNRELATED but I genuinely don’t want the Sims 5. Having the sims be online really doesn’t make sense to me because were making families and storylines. People can easily mess that up for you. And how do we know the sims 5 won’t end up like the sims 4? It really doesn’t seem worth it after spending 100+ dollars on this game.

[@LawWonderTV9]

True dat. Griefers are very bad, and if they make the Sims 5 online only, that would be like EA shooting themselves in the foot. Take it from a guy who plays The Crew 2. I have to protect the other gamers from the virtual assailants in that game because I do not like the griefer culture.

[@christinab.2864]

@@LawWonderTV9 not to mention sim guru grant will be on the team. Very disgusting. He was awful back in the sim 3 years. The game will be domed

[@stxrstruck6755]

@@christinab.2864 I feel like if we get our hopes up for Sims 5 it’s gonna be extremely underwhelmed and disappointed. EA loves to disappoint us.

[@RedVelvetyJess]

@@christinab.2864 I didn't even know he was around back then bc I never followed any of the "Sim Gurus". I can't believe he's been this unprofessional for so long and they haven't fired him (though I guess sadly, I CAN believe it considering this is EA and they really don't give a crap how they come across to Sims fans so why would that behavior bother them?)

[@ashbash2634]

Sims 4 was initially supposed to be online but they scrapped it and that is why the game engine is so bad, because it was built for online play. I fear the same will happen with sims 5

[@Hajdew]

imagine buying rotten tomato and dont complain cause of "they make money"

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Yeah, don't take that rotten tomato back to the store, just deal with it and never talk about how bad the produce is from that store because they work so hard to stock the store.

[@morrismixes3574]

Would you still shop at a store that sells rotten food? If the answer is yes then that's on you when you get the next batch of mouldy tomatoes. If the answer is no, then well done. You are going to hit the company where it hurts most (their pocket). Why cant people do the same with EA? Don't like the product, don't buy it. Its literally that simple. Stop supporting them. Stop giving them free clout with whiney videos that are only put out to get yourself clout. Just a bunch of hypocritical whingers the sims community. All talk and no action.

[@HoloTap]

@@morrismixes3574 You are right. But their opinions are still valid. However we need to encourage more ppl to just stop. Some simmers are just buying packs wothout playing with them and it's just slowly killing their games with more layers of bad coding. However EA is still have a strong monopoly to the life sim games. It's not like shooting games were you can play whatever the hell you want.

[@sapphicsiren]

I’m pretty active on the Sims Reddit, and it’s so frustrating to read some people’s opinions about the Sims 4. I really feel like they only play the Sims 4, and have never played any other video games.They act like consumers can’t complain about the product, or that Sims 4 is the best simulation game ever. Even when you point out the lack of content in comparison to older Sim titles, show them money comparisons about the content, they either blame you for buying or feel bad for the developers. Like I understand there are some things out of the control of developers because of producers, like deadlines or cutting out content. I studied game design at my university. I talked to people in the industry, I understand these issues. I also understand that developers will get the brunt of backlash. I understand that Sims Dev team sometimes get harassed for petty reasons, and get even gets threatened. But like as I point out all the time, literally no other player base in any video game franchise puts up with this behavior, even fans of other similar franchises like Animal Crossing.The Sims team is not a indie developer with limited funds. They are not just a team of three people. They have access to play testers and bigger budgets. If people are so concerned about developers, why don’t they just support solo devs, so they can actually live off their games’ profits and so don’t have to put up with abuses like the industry like crunch or working overtime for free. Yes there are so many indie games under $30 with way more content than the Sims 4, like Rimworld, Starbound, Stardew Valley, or Wildermyth. Like go support artists, and like you’ll find much better representation and a more enjoyable gaming experience. And like people complaining about the game taking resources, like most indie games are under a 1gb and they run way more smoothly.

[@BKNTD]

I love scrolling through Sims reddit and see people post their salt about how "only people hating on The Sims 4/EA get upvoted!". I also remember back when Batuu came out and the subreddit was flooded with frustrated people venting out about it, mods wanted to put censorship on negativity and make sure only positive posts get to stay, because "poor The Sims 4 fans were sad looking at mean memes :("

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

@Isabel ~nods~ I support so many indie developers with the money I would have spent on The Sims 4 if it was actually good. It is amazing that I can reach for games over and over, that I've spent hours in and seen everything, and not The Sims 4. I just don't care to become more frustrated and disappointed in the game.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

@The Beikonated Really? And here I thought that Reddit was a safe haven for opinions of all kinds. Kind of makes a lot of the "deleted by moderators" posts I saw, make more sense. So there are special snowflakes everywhere.

[@HoloTap]

The sims 3 reddit is the best.

[@fransmith3255]

Isabel, can I give this a super like? I keep telling people exactly the same thing. You can get a full game with more content than The Sims 4 on Steam for $20. It's ridiculous! Some of the games on Steam for $20 -$30 are so complex they have quite a steep learning curve, and it takes hundreds of hours to find all the features. The Sims 4 has no learning curve - it's boring after an hour because there's no gameplay, no depth - for a game that costs $850?? And it's a game that has so many bugs it really isn't even at PRE-ALPHA standard - seriously!! Games on Steam in Alpha are a LOT more stable, and you can play them for hours without encountering bugs. The Sims 4 isn't play-tested at all - it's very, very OBVIOUS that it's not - people are PAYING for the privilege of doing the play-testing - they really are! Compared to most ALPHA games (unreleased games that are still being worked on and bug fixed), The Sims 4 isn't even at a standard where it should be released as a game to the public - it's not even ALPHA standard - by a LONG shot - not even CLOSE to ALPHA standard. It really isn't!! I wish the people who play The Sims 4 would get out and play OTHER games, so that they understand exactly how ridiculously they're being ripped off!! Good grief!! The Sims 4 entire content is barely worth $50 - the whole game! Honestly! That's how much The Sims 4 players are being ripped off!!

[@GeoMusic99]

That's what happens when the community is made up of casual players and kids who have not yet formed into consious consumers, or have experience with other companies that treat their customers better.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Exactly. And they have no idea how to express their opinion without coming across as nasty. I fear for the next generation.

[@AnatasiaCalista]

And that's a reason why EA trying to keep Sims 4 rating E (>_>)

[@moondivine2288]

@@AnatasiaCalista what are you talking about. Sims 4 is rated T. For teens and up. What they can do with that rating is probably less than back in the day 🤷‍♀️

[@exlibrisas]

Yes! I so agree!!! Casuals rarely know any better and Sims francize (along with free to play mobile games) is mostly made for casuals. But there are plenty self conscious gamers, that know what they want and where to spend their money on.

[@uselessalpaca6777]

@@exlibrisas I'm sorry, I don't wanna be mean but i can't stop laughing at "self couscous players"

[@existenz_1]

Toxic positivity in the Sims 4 community makes me dislike the game even more. The game costs almost 1000 bucks, has more packs than the previous games but still less gameplay. How should we be grateful? Anyone here watched Carl's review on Dream Home Decorator where sims were happy with piles of poop everywhere? This reminded me of the Sims 4 community. Just replace sims with the Sims 4 bootlickers and piles of poop with Sims 4 packs :P

[@meep1809]

That’s a great analogy 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@benn87]

The problem in my eyes is that most of the content in Sims 4 is simply cosmetic and does nothing. There are far too few interactive objects. What is the point if my house is nice to look at, but at the end of the day I can do almost nothing with it?

[@existenz_1]

@@benn87 True. There are very few interactions between the sims too. And they all have the same few animations. In the Sims 2 there are different animations during the conversion depending on the topic sims are discussing. Different animations depending on the sim's personality, for example shy sims will react differently to a compliment than outgoing sims. In the Sims 4 all sims just feel the same. I like building in this game but gameplay is just not it. I believe most game changers are builders so of course they will praise the game and EA will continue to only add stuff for the builders.

[@maxezzy1282]

@@benn87 I agree! Sort of irrelevant, but people would say that "It is more worth it than other games where you pay for skins" but in some stuff (Like the build kits) we're literally getting objects we already have, just a new shape and pattern.

[@Natasha6090]

People have a right to complain we spent a lot of money on this game

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

I can't believe that people have spent $840 dollars if they bought everything at full price. That is a ridiculous price for any game. And to then be told you can't complain when you get $40 of actual good content and $800 of filler. The nerve of some people.

[@Natasha6090]

@@gigisneckofthewoods I know right

[@joycezale5433]

Most of what I bought was on sale. Still quite expensive

[@ChrissaTodd]

I will say I saw people say they didn't get why fans wanted a sims 4 university because school is boring. When sims 3 university is so good.

[@sapphicsiren]

I’ve just recently played Sims 3 university, and wow it’s a fantastic expansion. I thought it was tedious when I was younger. But there’s so much to do, and it’s great being able to customize the dorms and play with more than one Sim.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

I totally understand that. I haven't played Sims 4 University but I've heard it is really hard and a slog to get through. Way to take something fun and make it a miserable experience.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

@Isabel I love Sims 3 University. There is so much to do and you never get bored. As many hours as I've put into The Sims 3 [10,000+] I can still play through University and have new experiences.

[@wheezel55]

@@gigisneckofthewoods Not really.

[@moondivine2288]

Coming from a college dropout sims 4 is realistic to my experience. And that’s why i don’t like it. 😂 I’m not sure if college should be fun. And it’s confusing when I keep hearing simmers want a realistic game

[@GABE_is_here]

i think it should be public knowledge that it's ok to trash EA for their "efforts" because of the countless shady business practices they did. Andrew Wallet is playing with the fans and the one who's winning is him.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

I still don't know how people can keep buying from them after all the shady stuff and probably tons of stuff we don't know about. To each their own. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@alfredbelanger8326]

Andrew Wallet 🤣

[@AnimalLover101195]

that commenter (ea shill) talking about not playing old games as soon as they're not supported...I'm LITERALLY playing sims 3 while watching this video. Also I would LOVE to play sims 2 and sims 1 again on my current macbook if I could.

[@HoloTap]

Right? what an idiot.

[@NeoDarkling]

I played the Sims 3 yesterday. 😄 I would be playing Sims 2 as well if a Windows update hadn't nuked the Autorun.exe. I've been looking for a fix but so far, no cigar. 😞

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

@onequartercanadian I think a lot of these players only play because #1 the game is trendy or #2 a big simmer they idolize or various paid celebrity endorsements have made them think that their favorite celeb plays the game and they should too. Good games don't need trendiness or newness to stand on their own.

[@AnimalLover101195]

@@gigisneckofthewoods exactly! I've been playing the 64 bit sims 3 on mac and it's not perfect performance, but it's pretty good. I grew up with the sims franchise and I have SO MANY WONDERFUL memories of each of the games, from sims 1 to even sims 4! I just wish that others could have the opportunity to form memories like those. (which goes to the issue of these games not being supported for modern systems)

[@Ally_Sammons]

I played the Sims 3 last night and I got into the games after you couldn't buy the Sims 2 anymore so I finally hunted down a free download of it that actually worked and now I play that too so they were definitely just spouting bs lol

[@koharuhinata7938]

EA is not a charity. The Sims 4 is not a gift someone gave you for free (for most cases I assume). People are clients. They paid for a product and they deserve to say it's bad if it is

[@ashbash2634]

The community irritates me for these exact reasons. I've been saying it for years. Whenever you voice your opinion the fanbase jumps on you. I haven't purchased a sims 4 pack in 2 years because it's a waste of money. I've been playing for over a decade and the sims has officially been killed by EA, but i should be grateful 🙄

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Same here. Probably about 2 years since I bought a pack and about 2 years since I actively played The Sims 4. Much happier with the games I do play now. Cheaper and have more things to do than I game I invested several hundred dollars in.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

I personally prefer open neighbourhoods over open worlds. Purely because I do not uh, trust EA to not fuck it up. Seriously, Sims 3 wasnt laggy just because of the technology. It was the coding, the routing issues, the maps having broken areas. Its why when you play sims 3, its highly suggested you download community fixed maps. (I highly suggest it and NRAAS and Overwatch too.) And I will complain about sims 4! ALL DAY! BECAUSE IT SUCKS MY SIMS STILL GLIDE/WALK THROUGH WALLS. EA deserves to go in the Naughty Closet.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

I don't know what the problem is but every other company can make a stable open world game, but not EA. They keep repeating all these terrible mistakes from the past and never learn so their games never get better.

[@tsubrando]

@@gigisneckofthewoods true, how could they make stable open world game, when the devs complain a lot about "this one is hard to make" and "that one is hard to make" when coding is literally their job. Like really I've never seen any game devs or any devs for that matter to complain about how hard it is to develop features for their products. And going so far to educate us about time, cost and quality of software development.

[@karolinaziu8636]

My sims 3 loads in 1min 10seconds fully into the game and has no routing issues at all because I downloaded and replaced the fixed versions of the original worlds

[@themidascurse4048]

were can i find fixed maps and is there one tbat helps our mermaid sims?

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@themidascurse4048 sims3.crinrict.com/en/2014/02/ea-worlds-corrected.html

[@kerrykent9325]

Idk who needs to hear this but you can download the entire sims 2 ultimate collection online for free

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

I think you can get Sims 1 from an abandonware site too.

[@kayla4717]

Wait where😭😭 I been waiting to get the sims 2 cause the sims 4 ain’t it

[@kayla4717]

4 hours later and I got it I just want to say thank u to this comment because while I was making my sims 2 family I freaking cried I had already felt connected and it wasn’t even an hour an my family was throwing water balloons this is how I know this is already better than sims 4

[@kayla4717]

@kaizen games4theworld

[@talpatv512]

You can get the whole sims series with all the dlcs for free, all you need is a torrent, bada bim bada boom and let the magic do its own thing

[@robertkeane9393]

The game is so broken and so unfun it should be illegal. Also - now they’re adding item exclusive restrictions with preorders, they’re desperate.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Yep. Desperation because the money well is drying up. All those free players through EA Play don't add any money to the coffers. Tons of people are going to preorder because of FOMO. This isn't going to save EA. This is only going to exasperate the problems. But I called that quite a while ago. I do enjoy sitting on the sidelines, with a bowl of popcorn, waiting for the time they really screw up. It's coming.

[@canniblanch]

I feel like the people who defend EA are those who don't even pay for the packs like kids and game changers, like why else would you not see the stark dissonance between price and product quality

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

I agree. Many are children who are blindingly loyal to their idol game changer and parrot everything they say. Heck, we found in this video someone parroting SimGuruGrant. They remind me of mindless drones, just regurgitating any information that they have seen. It's a bit scary when people don't have the ability for rational thought.

[@PlagueBunny]

Umm… anyway chile, who’s ready for Paralives.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Ooo! ME! ME! ~waves hand and jumps up and down~

[@freemindds355]

😎😎

[@MssIAMNOBODYSPECIAL]

OHJEAAAAAH. I can't wait for paralives. I really wish I could play it soon, but I also don't wish that, because I want them to take their time to make a good game😂

[@benn87]

I am also very much looking forward to Paralives. What I have seen so far looks very promising. Unfortunately, I fear that the game won't make a big impression on EA and all the hardcore Sims fans. If only because of the probably much smaller marketing budget...

[@noahhhhhunt3000]

I AM SO READY I CANT WAITT

[@ashleytyraisaacs]

This is way less of a simmers “complaining” problem and more of a “game developers as an industry need better work conditions, unions, and rights” problem. Like the problem isn’t that Simmers, who are the actual customers, demand too much. It’s EA that makes business decisions without consistent time frames or direction. And they don’t actually pay developers that much compared to the working conditions and crunch. EA is also working with cheap servers and cheap production models. The devs do the bare minimum because EA does not pay them to do anything more than that. In fact EA can and does force game developers to stop developing their own game just to avoid being legally obligated to pay them. So even if devs wanted to do more and had the passion to do it for free, it’s not their call In all honesty, I would prefer for the entire sims team stop worrying about what simmers want and start advocating for what they want as workers. Like go on strike & make formal demands, etc. don’t worry about what simmers want devs. Not until you have the kind of working conditions that would make it possible

[@Birchthegoon]

Omg this. Like i hate EA but pitty the developers because EA like most game companies treat them like garbage. Like the devs need so much better

[@breadfan_85]

What's up with people who can't just let people feel their feelings?

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Not sure. I think it has something to do with people wrapping their whole identity in a game and they don't like others saying mean things about the game.

[@FireFlysNeverDie]

The fact that Dream Home Decorator just utilizes build mode, which already existed, but still managed to mess it up! There are glitches where you can delete walls but not place them, you can’t paint all of the walls in the interior of the home, and how you can get likes and dislikes that are contradictory. How does a pack that uses a core feature still play like butt??

[@TheDarkAngel396]

I love that sims cannot help themselves but walk through walls when the reveal event happens. Happens in all LPs I've seen so far. The pathfinding is a work of art, clearly 😂😂

[@FireFlysNeverDie]

@@TheDarkAngel396 exactly!!

[@crazyshedlife]

I have found the online Sims community to be one of the most toxic out there! I showed some of my friends comments from various Sims groups and they couldn't believe how aggressive players got with each other! One person gives an opinion, and unless you agree with them 100% and compliment them you end up with a barrage of abuse and ultimately have your comment removed. It gets old! i have just gone back to Sims 1/2/3 and generally keep off the online communities!

[@joeldiaz7422]

You know what, THE SIMS 3 LITERALLY HAS MORE CONTENT IN ITS SPAN OF 5 YEARS WITH ALL ITS EXPANSIONS AND THE SIMS 4 HAS BEEN GOING FOR 7 YEARS?! AND ITS STILL LACKING IN SO MUCH. I can’t believe this and it’s really annoying, AND WHEN THEYRE RECYCLING THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER, I’ve never seen this much recycling in the sims 2 or 3. Every sims 2 and 3 pack brought us new animations and a lot of gameplay. WE DESERVE BETTER! I literally give up on this game. An Addition: The sims 3 had a total of 11 expansion packs! The sims 4 will have its 11 expansion once country living releases. I doubt that’s add the same amount of content any sims 3 had! Welp.

[@cayreet5992]

This is why I have decided to uninstall TS4 and return to TS3. I have a lot of fun with that one, it runs reasonably well on my computer (thanks to NRAAS), and there's an actual game in there, not just a dollhouse with a building simulator. Building in TS4 is great, but it has no real life simulation.

[@LawWonderTV9]

Wish that the XBox 360 version of the Sims 3 was backwards compatible with my XBox One. Because that was pretty good.

[@RyuuTenno]

EA saying we should be grateful that they delivered the bare minimum, is like abusive parents demanding their kids be grateful for providing food, clothes, and a roof over their head.

[@babybunny3002]

I never understood the "be grateful" argument. It'd be one thing if there was a small team struggling to figure things out/it was all free but it's neither. I'm paying a billion dollar company for the bare minimum and I should be grateful for that?? Oookay

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

A team, that has members who have created/shipped multiple games and still fail this hard. Let that sink in.

[@mornasev]

The 'be grateful' people are being paid, either in cash or free merch, to have that opinion. I would love walmart too if they gave me close to a thousand dollars in free stuff.

[@coriander1521]

I don’t feel any sympathy to those who say that “EA works so hard on the packs😊”. I’ve never played Sims 1 or Sims 2 because I was too young to, but yet I still have the sense to realize that the Sims 4 won’t improve with any new packs/patches (but yet people STILL BUY THE PACKS even though they know what kind of company EA is)

[@determineddi2044]

I'm a long time Simmer. I feel this way, I have gotten value for my initial outlay of cash in Sims 1, 2 and 3. I can't complain. No one is making me buy anything. Sims 4, not so much, but I bought the base game on a very cheap sale (less than $5). The few EPs I did purchase are okay. Looking forward to the next generation of Sims type games. I don't like Sims 4 very much. Eventually you just have to realize the ship has sailed and look for new games. And we still have modders and sites supporting Sims 1-3...lots of freebies every day. That's why CC shopping is fun (and free or very cheap).

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

It makes me very happy to see people still working on the old games. There is a huge market there, especially since the global event and Eco Livestyle breaking The Sims 4 for a long time. I see posts every time I get on Twitter to do research for a video, people talking about going back to The Sims 2 or 3 and all the fun they are having. Warms my heart.

[@AlexDuck]

It took me time to warm up to S3 - I was VERY into S1 and S2 and owned close to everything for both. But after S4.... I went back to playing S3 a lot more and really appreciated it more! LOL.

[@lunacouer]

Here's why I love the Sims 4... There's content creators who convert its clothes, hair and items so I can use them in my Sims 2 game. 😂

[@biancablair4213]

Big gaming companies in general have gotten so bad that they don't even care to bug test games anymore. They ship out broken and buggy games and then patch it later. All the upcoming games that are coming out now that I'm excited for are indie games. Sims 4 costs over $800 and it's still lacking. I have never heard anybody describe Sims 2 & 3 as lacking. Those are great games even without mods. Most people need mods to just enjoy Sims 4 because the gameplay is so boring. I believe Sims 5 is gonna be even worse because EA knows what they can get away with in this community. Sims 4 is the last Sims game I'm investing in. I'm just tired of this franchise. So happy I still have Sims 2 & 3 to play.

[@jaymiller7202]

degeneracy I mean deligracy gets the packs for free and she has the audacity to complain about people who actually have to buy the game? Let that soak in.

[@toshj177]

I don't like her at all. Not to be mean but I can't sit thru a video of hers because she too fake. Like no honey you can't always be this happy for the sims 4. I only respect her when she being honest but she barely does that anyway.

[@B10HAZARD.]

You got her name right the first time. cannot stand that shill of a woman, she is so false. James is the same.

[@jaymiller7202]

@@toshj177 she reminds me of a high school student-teacher who talks to her grade 12 students like they're in kindergarten.

[@toshj177]

@@jaymiller7202 it just getting irritating that these KZbinrs simmers don't get why we the players get upset when they tell us to calm down about the sims 4. Nah sorry I don't get it for free I have to pay for bullcrap. It just so tone deaf.

[@jaymiller7202]

@@toshj177 it is. It gets worse when you see things from an international player as well, since expansions can cost like a months salary in some countries. When gamechangers make money from videos on packs they got early access too, they're gonna shill for the company because it's their income and EA might not send them the next pack code early if they say something.

[@wren5685]

Remember when you'd buy an expansion pack, and you'd get celebrities, night clubs, and a city all in one 40$ pack, and now all the content is divided into 3 40$ packs.

[@wren5685]

the seperation of the packs got so bad, people stated thinking that each season would be its own pack, or you'd have to buy a cats pack and a dogs pack

[@kiwiciara]

Honestly the fact that you're playing the console version of the Sims 2 makes me so happy. That was my first experience of the Sims and I still play it sometimes

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Same! I love this version a lot. Especially the fun cooking mechanics.

[@AlexS-oj8qf]

"Grateful" is for something that we are given, not for something that we pay with our hard-earned money. And we have ANY rights to point out problems and ask for it to be adressed and fixed. It's not being ungrateful, it's giving feedback about the product you purchase so the producer will know how to improve in the future. That's how healthy community works, they care about the wellbeing of the product and wants it to succeed so they point out problems and expect it to be fixed.

[@beeley]

The fact that the developers block people who criticize/ disagree with them….

[@aris1562]

I am glad you talk about this because tbh the game changers who make the SAME content like you do don’t go in depth because of the position they hold I even got insulted by a simmer who told me “EA is a company so we need to support them” (there’s more to that cause he wrote a paragraph) but I am currently studying animation and motion graphics and let me tell you that you didn’t tell a lie in this video EVERYTHING YOU SAID!! Is Valid as a animation I learned the about how much they will need to spend to create contend and animate the sims 4. But game changers like Deligracy think they know better because they see the gurus as friends when in reality she they don’t have any idea on how all of this work ( no disrespect to Deligracy) but having the game for 15 more years is bad that’s basically them telling us we are waiting for Paralives to so can borrow some ideas.

[@mahinab5499]

I'm a student in Game Art and i can tell i there is at least one animation in TS4 which you could find in the site mixamo for free. (As a student it's free for me but i am not sure for corporation who made money with it, anyway it's not like they don't have money to spend -_- ) (Sorry i'm not english so maybe i dont write very well )

[@aris1562]

@@mahinab5499 I am don’t worry English is not my my first language. But I wasn’t aware of a site for free animations, wow the more you know

[@mahinab5499]

@@aris1562 It's a website who work with adobe, you just have to create an account for free. We use this website because my school is not specialized in animation (we have few courses but this is not priority) and whe are allowed to take some frame on animation to make a pose on ours characters if we don't have time to make one ourselves.

[@mygetawayart]

Let's not get this wrong, this absolutely insane fan behaviour is the result of the shameless gaslighting from the gurus, especially Grant. This "shut up and be grateful" mentality is not borne out of thin air, it was gaslit into existance by really nasty people.

[@blameitondanny]

It's absolutely disgusting on how they "bring back" Older Iconic sims (i.e Dustin and Dirk in get famous and the Pleasant sisters in University) to attract OG simmers and the bootlicker game changers. Now I feel bad for Agnes Crumplebottom. And let's not forget about the immediate patch for newest pack since they seemed to didn't play test the thing.

[@fernan2342]

Last time I criticized a Simtuber for being biased on Reddit.... I remember the mob attacking me, the downvotes, the screams

[@HoloTap]

Positive community as always....

[@davidkonevky7372]

You can tell a person hasn't played the older sims games when they say "The sims 4 fanbase is spoiled", because by sims 3 or sims 2 standards we're essentially starving. Yes yes, we have good cosmetics, but no amount of beautiful plants and great looking sims is going to fix the fact that your sims have no personality, or that none of the packs are useful after you play them once (unless we're talking about seasons, but even then, that pack would be "just above average" by sims 3 standards)

[@mastermind4499]

You know, I don't like saying bad things about people, but I really do believe that all people who say something like "game devs are people too, they have lives" or "coding, modelling and animating is hard, you should go easy on them" are very dumb. Because I really just can't understand why they don't understand that game developer is a JOB, it's their job to code, animate, etc. They must be good at it. We have all rights to criticize because first of all, we are CLIENTS that pay for their job. Imagine a fire fighters or medics being absolute garbage at their jobs. And the biggest irony is that these morons that believe that licking boots and being positive in everything (except when talking to people that have opinion different than their's) is the first reason why this game is bad. Why should EA work hard when they can just say that "making animations that even a kid could do in Blender is very expensive and our team of educated coders can't do things that indie devs can do" and people will just believe them? Start thinking deeper, learn to think critically, it's not that hard, Jesus Christ. P.S. Gigi, you're the best. And I wish you all the best. Thank you

[@witcheria777]

I 200% agree with you

[@PlatoneMusic]

I once commented on their official Instagram profile in a post that the Sims 4 gets boring after a while and I got blocked from commenting ever again in their profile! I asked a girl who had commented a negative criticism to ensure if I was blocked by them and yes she also got blocked..

[@rudyavila1825]

EA would be a toxic boyfriend/girlfriend. Making you pay for every gift they give you, doing the bare minimum and calling it "spoiling" you, then saying you are too spoiled if you complain. EA knows they can get away with it because no matter what, people will still buy their products because of the love they have for the game. The best way to insure change is to hit them where it really hurts....their wallet. Stop buying their stuff, make them hurt for money. Then, and only then, will they do what they need to do....what they should have done YEARS ago.

[@simsina]

I understand that not everyone is going to agree on everything, but what I don't understand is people taking it as "negative" or "hate" when majority of people who point out flaws are simmers who only want the game to be/do better. That's a litteral favor to EA! They get input directly from players for free. When did criticism became "negativity"? How are you supposed to grow and get better if nobody ever tells you what you should work on? This is so strange to me. Not to mention that players are their customers.

[@HawkHuntress]

“How many people are needed to create one item!!” *Looks over at all the cc creators who literally create hundreds of items for the game* *Looks at how 1/2 the stuff EA added has been recolors which literally take like 5 seconds to make as James Turner pointed out*

[@steinaf]

It's bad when even some Game Changers are asked by other Simmers to do what the thumbnail says. We have toxic positive Simmers, Simmers who verbally attack other Simmers, Game Changers, & SimGurus, and Simmers who contribute to the cycle - some of us will never know peace. I hope in the end, everyone gets to enjoy whatever Sims game they want to play.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

I can't believe the gall of most Game Changers. It is like the prestige has gone to their heads and they think they are untouchable. The stuff you read from people who have left the program, in my Sims Team video, is just heartbreaking.

[@steinaf]

​@@gigisneckofthewoods Yes, I still watch their videos but it is a pity that they don't talk about how Sims 4 is lacking e.g. Dream Home Decorator, the "gameplay" is just another way of building. I think it's easy to be less empathetic to other Sims players because it doesn't affect them. The Sims Team slept on their former Game Changers, players who bring something to the table - I saw Yorkie and WMS' posts and although it's sad, I think it's for the better, they all deserve better.

[@zcdace2204]

Even tho I prefer Sims 4 mainly because I enjoy building amd creating sims I have to agree for some people saying Sims 2 and Sims 3 are better Sims 2 have better details and family gameplay but build mode is sorta limited I think Sims 3 have Create a Style and open world but its hella laggy compare to Sims 4 mainly because I use a laptop

[@sapphicsiren]

I agree, Sims 4 biggest strengths have always been building and CAS. I like making Sims and renovating houses, but I don’t really play long after I do this. These days I’ve been playing more Sims 3. But I dislike building in the Sims 3. It’s slower and I miss some of the Qol features like moving rooms or extending walls.

[@primrosett]

@@sapphicsiren I agree, I think CAS and building is actually very good and the best in the series, the only big things I think the latter is missing is recolourable cielings and matching wood swatches. But that's all it's got going for it, I get bored in about 20 minutes actually playing the life simulation part of the gameplay... which is supposed to be the bulk of it.

[@LawWonderTV9]

I respect your opinion. However, the console versions aren't exactly peachy either.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

“Be grateful!” Ah yes, I should be on my hands and knees kissing the greasy sausage toes of a multi billion dollar company who is notorious for milking players dry if their money, wiping multiple indie game development studios off the face of the Earth by buying them and running them into the ground, can’t be arsed to make a new Sims game and has also been revealed to overwork the developers of their “games” and flicks peanuts in their faces as “payment”. Whatever was I thinking?

[@Esstan1]

It's INSANE that people are lying to themselves like this and defending this shitty game. How is it ungrateful to critique a game that has no content, is expensive, and works so poorly?! We are paying these people to do their job and they are NOT doing their job! The issue is obviously not the devs faults only, but the bosses and investors that simply don't care or even seem to understand. This is exhausting to listen to. People are such bad consumers - people that are defending are just making this issue even worse, the Sims games will never change if fans continue to ignore the issues.

[@gustavofelixdev]

Oh boy, here we go again. I'll get my cold soda because this is hot.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

She is piping hot with a side of boiling. ;)

[@frogradar]

The sims 4 failed when they removed so many random gameplay encounters. Where are Burglars, evil Raccoons who mess ur house up, ghosts who just walk in and break your electronics. I play the sims 1, i make bread and my stove bursts into flames. I buy the cheapest stove in the sims 4 and I can make Aromatic Duck with Sezhuan sauce at level 1 and it's good quality. I don't even buy a fire alarm in the sims 4 because I know my chances of setting the place on fire is too low to warrant it. My sim uses the toilet once in the sims 1 and it just breaks because it's cheap as shit. I boot up the sims 2 delux and im greeted by a damn genie who wants gold for a wish within 10 minutes. I boot up the sims 4 and I get the annoying ass welcome party that benefits me in no way. Think about that for a moment, in the sims 1 and 2 you needed to "network" to advance in careers. Going up in jobs was literally a chore in itself that it's why Motherlode and Rosebud where so commonly used. In the sims 4 I can make thousands of simbucks within a week I have no need for motherlode or rosebud in my gameplay for emergency spending. Because there is no emergency spending. They took the gameplay out of the sims 4 and that's why the GC's who are literally ALL builders love these packs because they can now build. Gameplay is gone, and thats why people go back to SIMS2 and 3 because they actually offer gameplay.

[@KatastrophicNoodle]

7:58 Actually some weather was scheduled for TS2 but they couldn't work it out in time. THEN sims-daddy left and and the golddigger mother took the kids. I fully believe if he didn't leave, weather would be basegame in TS3. TS1 was innovative, creating the genre. TS2 was INCREDIBLY innovative. TS3 was a copy paste with extra features. TS4 was basically an indie game produced in 7 days and sold at a triple A price. WILL WRIGHT COME BACK PLEAAAASE. It isn't a coincidence that the game fell to cash grabbing shit after he left, with no more innovations, in fact LESS innovations and content, sold for higher prices.

[@RedVelvetyJess]

Also I was watching a PleasantSims video the other day about the Likes/Dislikes update, where she was skimming through a live stream some of the "Sim Gurus" did. I can't remember their names but one was a man and one was a women, and when the man said there was a new thing the grandma could complain about to her granddaughter she went "OOOOH!!!" very enthusiastically to where I literally laughed in disbelief. Like it's a chat animation painted as "Complain about * insert dislike here *", it's not like it's an "OMFG WHAT A GAME CHANGER AMIRIGHT" moment or anything.

[@callmeobsequious]

I tend to find that Sims 4 stans are people that have only played TS4. I used to love TS4 and TS3 equally (ofc TS3 has a special place in my heart because it was my very first Sims game) but when I started noticing the gaping holes in content...it gave me pause. And then I also started playing TS2 and it was just over for TS4. Because EAxis does not care anymore. I have a headcanon that the SimGurus are being held at gunpoint when they write some of their tweets lmao (edited for spelling/grammar)

[@LeeraChan]

7:53 ahh yes. Don't you love it when people conveniently forget that weather was planned to come in the basegame for Sims fricking 2? And it only didn't happen because they couldn't get it to stop raining inside before release? Yes, they later on made it a whole expansion with seasons and gardening. But, like, if they already wanted to do that almost 20 years ago, you can absolutely expect them to put seasons in the basegame two whole a** games later, that's not unreasonable.

[@crystalsuniverse3874]

i think the main cause of the divide in the sims community has everything to do with influencers and the game changer program in general. the moment they released that program i knew the game was on a downward spiral. on one side you have the players who play the game because it’s nostalgic and exciting and on the other side you have the influx of kids who are heavily influenced by media and have no sense of thinking for themselves or never even played the older generations of the game. as long as their fav big sim youtuber advertises the new content (that they received for free and were compensated by sponsorship to persuade you to buy) they will buy anything, and then call the rest of us “greedy” or “ungrateful” 🤨

[@Lizziguin]

I'm convinced that the people who say the same comments of "ungrateful", "whining", or "complain" haven't been playing the Sims as long as some of us. If they did their research of at least seeing the content that we got in Sims 2 and 3 alone, they'd be losing their minds. Sadly, that's what the Sims 4 team is banking on though, they made this series specifically to lure in the younger generations and people who haven't played the Sims for very long.

[@omarakram99]

Here's a thing. People can have different opinions and everyone should be respected for it. Our understanding of what is right or wrong completely differs from one person to another. I personally see as long as the criticism is constructive and civil it's great. I don't condone either the people who lick EA's boots nor the ones who are soooo disrespectful towards the gurus.

[@ViceCityExtra]

What is the best part of sims 4? Trailers Aesthetics Set-dressing They know how to make things look pretty to get your attention, but it’s just a facade. The 50 beautiful houses that you see in the background cant be interacted with. You’re stuck with a mismatched house with no backdoors, toilets and broken kitchens. I REFUSE to believe that they can’t build a proper looking home. They have 50 of them in the backgrounds of every lot, yet the house on the lot is ASS. I feel like one department is giving it all, but the department responsible for actual gameplay does not put in equal effort. There’s no excuse that the houses looks like that when people build beautiful houses in 30 minutes MAX.

[@summerbummer2113]

I'm glad the sims 2 community has grown so much over the last few years.

[@HoloTap]

And the sims 3 community.

[@tiffanyheartsu7271]

If people can make great mods alone, a whole team should be able to do the same and more

[@Harley24986]

If I spent money on your product expecting a certain "agreed upon" outcome, only to end up with a less than desirable and barely functional item, then I can fucking complain all I want.

[@benn87]

Wow. Some of the comments in the video are really great. How dare I demand quality when I spend literally hundreds of euros in the life cycle of a game. How rude of me... Great video that pretty much mirrors my current feelings towards the game. Thank you.

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Did you notice the three Pokemon in this video? People have asked for shout outs and some are sad that I can't answer their comments. I get hundreds of comments and it is impossible to reply to them all. I decided to make it fair; the first person who correctly posts the time stamps of all three Pokemon in this video, you'll earn the coveted pinned comment and my undivided attention. Want to ask me a question, hear my thoughts on a subject or just say something sweet, now you can and be assured I'll see it and reply. This should be taken as something fun and not a super serious competition. I'll still reply to as many comments as I can but there is no guarantee I can get to yours. As my channel grows, it will be even harder to keep up with the comments. Keep your eyes peeled and good luck!

[@christinab.2864]

Sadly I watching and listening to you give out too many 3rd or worse degree burns and come backs to notice any Pokémon. Thanks for being so honest about a game that I wished it was as much fun as your gameplays. One more they will get more money from viruses that came from the mods.

[@Cybershock180]

So ea so hypothetically if someone hacked in to your billion dollar company and took 40 billion dollars out of your company so should we just be like shut the hell up and be greatful you even have money.

[@xcalium9346]

This is like that woman who shows up with black eyes and cigarette burns everyday but refuses to leave her boyfriend because she thinks she'll make him better

[@sarenikaktus]

And the way they say that it was built with a limited engine and that's why there is no deeper gameplay and other stuff, that's just...ugh....

[@gia.d]

The only way we're going to be able to get Sims 5 is if people STOP BUYING!!! The Sims 4 and all of its extension packs. EA does not care if you're complaining The only care if you're buying the game. All they want is money so if we stop buying the game they're finally going to listen... hopefully.

[@lealeah8066]

Thank you for reminding about the overall context of the whole drama about TS4! Thank you also for being my voice on the internet because that's exactly how I feel (as an adult playing the sims since 20 years) 💚

[@ladyrendarkstrider2398]

I'm grateful to quit the Sims 4 and I play Persona 5 at the moment, each evening or even exploring the missed stuff in ESO. This opinion matters to me. Including returning to the games that do deserve the hard earned money.

[@OwnedByKitties]

Sometimes I think these people complaining about those of us with standards never played Sims 2 or 3, but then they say they did … and then I’m speechless. How could they have played those two iterations and thought Sims 4 was just A OK?! 😳

[@MylingCyrus]

Half of these comments (in the video itself) are so gaslighty. Saying if we don't like the game its basically our fault

[@adrianalvarez1468]

Yeah I shamefully and embarrassingly used to think this way (I was far younger, now I’m on the cusp of 17) and Star wars was the first straw, then haunted living (happy haunts??), and finally kits was the final nail in the coffin so I basically ditched the game. It sucks cause I never got to play the Sims 2/3 due to me being young and my computer can’t run it and 2 isn’t available anymore so Sims 4 was my first taste of The Sims franchise and always thought the game was great! but then I went back and looked at Sims 2 and 3 videos and man the franchise fell hard.

[@SammyLammy1D]

Same, I am turning 17 later this year, and the only reason I am still playing is mods and the fact that ts4 helped me through the worst years of my life. I am honestly not sure if I want to spend more money on that game, although I am pretty sure I will.

[@fmajor881]

I think your story is similar to mine as well.

[@anankenous]

Imagine paying for the Sims when it costs 60000 or so in Russian rubles. Do american people earn this much to pay for shitty games and can't bother to pirate?

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

Well, I've heard of people using credit cards, pay day loans and student loans to buy packs so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

[@anankenous]

@@gigisneckofthewoods ... Maybe it's just me, coming from the land of rampart piracy and dollar being equal 80 rubles or so, but.. why? Just why?

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

It is baffling to me too. It's a video game, not life and death.

[@kkswayzee]

and if it wasn’t for custom content or mods there is no way i could play the game. cc creators literally carry the sims 4.

[@wheezel55]

I strongly dislike the Sims team. They act so close to the players, but that's just an excuse for them to be incredibly unprofessional and childish.

[@fishie.]

It's so hard to find honest videos like these. I've stopped watching simmers because they were getting paid to say good things. We know these packs are 💩 I feel like they should either START 👏 LISTENING 👏 TO 👏 US 👏 or just start over with the Sims 5. But I don't know much about business so I wouldn't know.

[@RedBloodyGirl]

Gamedev here rant incoming. I understand the perspective of this video, I myself don't think the sims 4 is a perfect game, I enjoy it but it has a lot of problems, internal and external, let's begin with the community. I've been in communities since 2006 and let me tell you, the sims 4 is absolutely not at the top of toxicity (I've played a few MOBA) but we're really really near the top 3. Sim guru Linsay, have you seen her around since batoo? No? what about harrassing a person because she was doing her job (and probably forced to promote that s*it even if she didn't like it because, you know, it's her job). But let's move on. Oh and imagine being a dev and your fans keep asking for things like K N I T T I N G, omg I'll dump my job and go picking tulips in Denmark ffs. What about wherewolves, fairies, crazy s*it that made the sims franchise famous; no, better have K N I T T I N G. Moving on, Games are developed with engines, like unity and unreal 4 that are free to use and have humongous communities ready to develop more tools and resolve bugs, nice right? Forget it, companies have Custom Engines, wich are f*cking insane, broken and didn't have a fraction of the people to support the structure. That's why Paralives is looking better and that's why maxis probably had to sacrifice the firstborn of every dev to develop a bunk bed. On that note, EA is trying to milk the franchise like a starving vampire, that's self explainatory I think, If you need more explaination: my first pet stuff. Oh and do you remember when they made the game changers build the lots for snowy escape and everyone was like: "oh they sent the build very long ago, two months" and there was NOTHING on that map and some features didn't even exist? That f*cking scared me. Two months is nothing, you have to submit things at least a month prior to be approved and bugfixed, I unironically think that they crunched until madness and that's not healty for any human being. About bugfixing, sometimes is not done internally and the companies are paid by quantity of bugs reported and not quality, so they can report the same bug 120 times and they are good to go while in the game remains another 120 different bugs. (Btw you cannot realistically think to do a good testing in a month.) But my favourite is: why x modder has done this in half of the time? Because X modder didn't have EA on their neck, didn't have certification for xbox, sony, censorship, bugfixing, quality control, marketing, community and producers on their neck. And I'll not mention the politics going around the game industry because this post is already a wall of text. Why no sim guru told you this? Because we all are under NDA, and talking s*it about the company or another company can cost you the entire career. (funny, right? I actually don't give a damn, I think EA high floors are composed by purebreed boomers and that's why where they go the grass doesn't grow anymore) Am I defending EA? No. Am I defending Maxis? Yes. No dev deserves harrassment for doing their job. Period. If you want to hurt EA and their policy don't buy packs. Seriously, boicott the game if you think it's totally s*it, or you can buy the codes from codes sites, that's really really hurtful for them.

[@tattoocutiegal7629]

I agree while a good amount of the communitie's anger is justified but many of them are woefully misguided on how to properly direct that anger which is at EA and not targeting some poor overworked employee.

[@callmerayd]

What really hit me most when I last played Sims 4 is that I *HAVE* to add mods to add more flavor to it. I've modded lots of games like skyrim, sims 3, fo4 but mostly because of fixes and just for fun. But for sims 4, without mods, it would really get stale immediately.

[@apparentlyawesome1]

You know what, I want to see somebody start a no mods or cc challenge. For one week, people playing Sims 4 play with no mods and no CC, just the base game and whatever packs they have and let's see how people feel by the end of that week. I know there are some people who play the game with none of that and still enjoy it, I'm not talking about them, but looking at some of the Sims groups I'm in and reading comments on social media you'd think some people were playing a totally different game than Sims 4, yet they also talk down on Sims 3 and 2 because they'd need so many mods and CC to make them playable and good looking enough. As if they aren't doing that for Sims 4 already. Some have been doing it for so long I don't think they know what's Sims 4 and what's CC or mods until a patch comes out and even then some refuse to play until they're all updated to work with the new patch.

[@keg10609]

The sims 2 still works. I sure did download it. Worth it. And the sims 3.

[@StoriesbyIrish]

"If you don't want to see people complaining about Sims 4, then don't look." Holy shite... what a concept... not sure if most of those whose comments you shared can grasp that though. Man they were brutal...

[@gigisneckofthewoods]

So many people go out of their way to find the stuff that bothers them. Pretty much every single social media site gives you tools to filter, mute and block stuff that you don't want to see. Why don't people use them? Well, they want to see these comments so they can dogpile on strangers.

[@StoriesbyIrish]

@@gigisneckofthewoods Keyboard Warriors mantra - We don't know you and don't care to, but we will make social media a living hell for you.

[@micearenice8963]

This is a late comment but I want to write a dissertation on cult mentality and how it coincides with fandoms after I got attacked by a hate mob because I said after the update I was having issues with the game. There is a complex relationship going on with fans and this company. I suggested other pleasurable life activities because they had totally lost perspective.

[@ScaraGucci]

Woah, the title scared me for a moment. Sims 4 is only playable with mods for me because people who actually care do the work EA should do.

[@estelladee]

If this game was a $2 game, sure I'd be grateful. But if I'm paying a $50? $60 (I forgot how much it was sold when it first released) BROKEN game-- then no, I am NOT going to be quiet about it. It's bad enough that it's incomplete-- it's BROKEN! And you want me to shut up about it? lol. Oh and by the way, if no one complained, we would have never had ghosts, pools, toddlers, platforms, etc. So yeah, you're welcome. This is the only game I played where the developers don't want to listen to criticism. They think it's immature if people just bashed them. That's probably true, but you know what I play another game that has a community that is a thousand fold worse than the sims community in terms of toxicity, but their devs listen to their most toxic critics and, from their horrible launch (I'm talking about bugs galore and just bad game mechanics) to what is now one of the most staple and well-made MMO-RPG. If the devs and EA is mature enough they wouldn't ignore anyone in their community, it is in their best interest to at the very least listen to people who complain. And frankly, it is the devs who should be grateful to these "toxic" people. Also your line: "Maybe it is YOU who should just stop" is something that resonates to me so well. People think they are positive because they don't complain, when honestly they are being mean to people who criticize TS4, most of the people who complain, complain to EA and the devs. but these people who say some simmers aren't grateful attack their fellow simmers and are the ones that start the arguments.

[@toshj177]

Someone literally try to argue with me on KZbin saying parenthood is not about caring about ur kids (they said taking kids to ballet lessons). Which I don't have to explain why that dumbest thing to say right? I genuinely hate sims 4 and it's fans. No offense I am getting fed up even talking to these people. Sims 4 fans who are alright I don't mean you! The ones who constantly defend and never shut up and actually listen to the feedback I meant you people Also, poor players exist I can't stand how some players refuse to understand why maybe poor sims 4 players are upset paying for sims 4 stuff when they can and it's in this state. No one would bitch if they didn't break up everything to sell it. Snowy escape + the jungle game pack + strangerville + island living + eco-living and tiny living together as an expansion wouldn't make people so mad just saying!

[@abrilvonbunny6205]

I think this Parasocial Relationships at work... no one would feel *sorry* for millionaire company and their devs if they didnt post their silly little whining on twitter...if we didnt see them interacting with simmers or on livestream. BIG BRAIN move on EA to make a company RELATABLE with sim gurus faces on it. Bro... mods are doing this for FREE.... I dont mean to disrespect the gurus, Im sure they dont actively choose ts4 to be like that, but the mother company is Cashgrab central, and putting people on their side by making their employees some kind of influencers is working like a wonder... Meanwhile the packs that are 2 month old will never again be fixed... RIP dine out, you had potential

[@matssmaling7552]

the sims 4 was such a disappointment

[@MysticalDreams18]

Lately I’ve been loving the sims 4, and I own 97% of dlc... but I have come to realisation that it’s not the game itself that I’m enjoying, it’s the mods I have installed. Mods that if I did not implement to my daily way to play, the game would be so flat and dead for me... hopefully with paralives it will urge ea as a company to do some bloody work, and not leave us to pick up the missing pieces (ie finding, updating, downloading mods)

[@ahousecatwhohasacellphone]

I feel kinda nervous for the paralives devs, to be honest. since EA has consistently fallen short of fulfilling requests by sim players and giving their devs enough time to actually make something worth playing, I feel like a lot of sim players are gonna project that disappointment onto the Paralives devs (which is like what... 5 people?) and hold them to an insanely high standard

[@tattoocutiegal7629]

Paralives has 10 people on the dev team now!

[@TheColeTruth]

We need more ppl to speak up, especially content creators. *side eyes Deligracy* Awesome video thank you for putting EA's BS on blast!

[@tylerthunder2001]

Good vid. A issue I have with some people in The Sims community is they keep supporting the greedy packs and kits they don't find a issue with it which sucks. I seen some people defend the greedy packs and kits. People like this won't make The Sims 4 better

[@daenerystargaryen1440]

Why should i be grateful when everytime i wanna visit my neighbor there is a damn loading screen? The Sims 3 had freaking open world!! Why can't The Sims 4 even have open neighborhood??