The Sims 2 OBLITERATES The Sims 4.

This video is a comparison between The Sims 2 & The Sims 4. It shows how much more advanced & detailed TS2 was compared to TS4.
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[@LaDomiiT.O]

You’re lucky the pizza lady didn’t put the pizza on the floor, go into your house, sit on your couch, start a conversation, then head to the computer

[@bullianas]

😂

[@mooonsi323]

wow, never happened to me, played over 5k hours

[@pinkoart]

That's still too lucky, they usually skip the couch and conversation parts and go straight for the computer.

[@callmek0k0]

My grocery delivery girl came in and started cleaning the house. I had to delete her 😂

[@GamerGirl997]

@@callmek0k0that’s harsh, just ask them leave😅

[@tyheildes6210]

How is it that a 20 year old game has better graphics than a supposed modern game? 😮

[@litchtheshinigami8936]

love and care vs wanting money

[@fx7105]

good art direction and better design for the time

[@g.e131]

They won't even make a PS5 version of TS4 unfortunately.. The Sims 4 team are too lazy to render / code anything and that's why everything is broken - every update, every pack and every patch..

[@footloosegenius2242]

It doesnt. It has better animation. Just goes to show how little graphics matter when theres no soul

[@boahsarah4929]

i think these days people making the game are not getting their fun from the work.. i bet in the 2000s making these animations was cool to do and fun to watch. now people just wanna get done with their shift and watch tiktok

[@FaeQueenCory]

One of the nicest things about the Sims 2 is how with big events like birth and weddings and the like, everyone will stop what they're doing to go attend. But in 4... It's like nobody cares.

[@Ilivepuppys]

tbh fair, I walked passed a wedding before. didn't know them and didn't even stop in my walk. Your comment should say family doesn't care.

[@FaeQueenCory]

@@Ilivepuppys 👞

[@Bengesdream]

YES IT ANNOYS ME SM its like so annoying. Idk hiw it is with dead reaction but sims 4 seems even worse with reactions and sims doing their own stuff, not carinf

[@lauravogt1022]

​@Ilivepuppys Well... there is not just the family 😐 friends and the staff (if you called them) were there too. If you were celebrating a wedding all the guests and even the staff was cheering. In TS4 literally not a single f*ck was given... I just bought the base game and was so damn disappointed that I deinstalled it after 30 minutes...

[@Ilivepuppys]

@@lauravogt1022 you saying you just bought the basegame of the sims 4? dude you were scammed its free, double checked on steam since I dont own it on there and sims 4 base game is free and has been for months

[@snarkbotanya6557]

My biggest "thing that was lost from Sims 2" is the genetics system, particularly when it comes to hair and eye colors. In Sims 3 and Sims 4, Sims inherit their hair and eye colors in a 50/50 coin toss between the parents' traits. In Sims 2, Sims actually inherit alleles from their parents which have dominant and recessive values coded in from the beginning. This allows Sims to inherit recessive traits from generations before their parents; for example, a brown-haired Sim and a black-haired Sim who each had a blond parent could have a blond child.

[@Ilivepuppys]

Pretty sure you can inherit from grandparents in sims 3 and 4, but I do agree the real genetics should come back

[@snarkbotanya6557]

@@Ilivepuppys In The Sims 3, there's a small chance that traits such as hair color will be pulled from a grandparent, but it's random rather than via alleles and thus can result in situations you wouldn't get in real life (e.g. two natural blondes having a child with black hair). There's also a chance of "mutation," where a trait will be selected at random without regard for what traits are in the family. The Sims 3 also operates on Lamarck Was Right logic when it comes to dyed hair: if a redhead dyes their hair black, a child who inherits their hair color will have black hair, not red. This used to go for "unnatural" colors as well, but apparently there was a patch at some point that fixed that, so a Sim who dyes their hair blue won't pass on blue hair to their kids. The Sims 4, as far as I can find, has no system for inheriting traits from generations before the parents.

[@florriebellerose]

The Sims 2 genetics are crazy complex (there’s a video on KZbin covering it in detail). I get a little excited when that recessive hair or eye colour finally pops up after a generation or two. The recessive/dominant genes is one of the most detailed features of TS2 that doesn’t get mentioned enough.

[@snarkbotanya6557]

@@florriebellerose I know, right? I love seeing if recessive traits will pop up again. I actually made my own little genetics mod to sort the hair and eye colors into their own unique genetic levels so that I could more efficiently Punnett-square my Sims' offspring. (It also makes green eyes dominant over dark blue because green eyes are generally dominant over blue in real life and the fact that they weren't in the game was bothering me.)

[@darabear]

Yes! I had two black haired sims have a blond child. I was confused, but looked in the family tree to see that both black haired parents had one blond parent each, meaning they both gave their recessive trait. I love the genetics details and accuracy,

[@animegeneration9639]

Sims 4 is basically a dress up game and build game

[@456loveluck]

Sims mobile too 😢👗 That's why I'm rooting sims freeplay 🎮🔶📲

[@RustyShackleford-oo9zh]

@@Glitchibo That's actually a brilliant idea

[@Ash_NuggTato]

Hey don't insult dress up games like that, there better than that

[@solouno2280]

it even fails at that, Sims 3 was AEONS better with texture pickers and palette dials

[@x_-FL0WER-_x]

IT ISNT EVEN GOOD AT THAT💀

[@bandana.7077]

I think the goal that the sims team developers set out to achieve while creating The Sims 4 was to cut corners & recycle as many animations as possible, Lol. Some people say "oh, if this existing animation can be duplicated to serve the new interaction, why bother making a new one?". And to that, I'd say that this approach has decreased the immersion of the sims 4 more than helping it. The Sims is a game that relies heavily on animations, we can only control our characters with mouse clicks, how do u expect people to not get bored if they have to watch the same animation for multiple interactions? Without providing unique & distinctive animation for each interaction, all the sims has left is....texts to read

[@Sitycims]

On point!

[@jasonrodriguez7242]

Also they should’ve never switched to a cartoony style!

[@flare90]

I was watching a doc on it and it may have to do with the fact it was originally an online multiplayer game. Doesn’t excuse the fact but bet it was cutting corners cause it wasn’t originally meant to be a game the way it is today

[@deliriouscheeto]

Hence the amount of "interactive" caves now where all you do is read text lol

[@ReginaTrans_]

But if the game had a special unique animation for each aspect, the loading screen would be longer than sims 3 !!!!

[@Lady-Mari-heart-]

Ok, the couple sleeping and waking up together is pure wholesome gold. Really cute and really sad they took that out in later releases. I never knew couples could be so cute in the sims.

The Sims 3 also has the couple animations! They kept a lot of other cute details too. Miss this kind of stuff in TS4.

[@kodiibearv]

you should've seen my face when i was playing ts2 today and saw there were mini interactions for slow dancing (holding each other close, putting the head on the shoulder, etc.) it made me so unreasonably happy 🥹

[@hibasobh]

The couple in Sims 2 are newly married while the ones in Sims 3 are awaiting divorce lolll 😅😅😅

[@let_universe]

besides the poor romantic animations and relationship system, the sims in TS4 don't even move while sleeping!! That's so lazy...

[@miryammaiello1634]

couples in sims 4 look like they don't even know each other, sims just have no personality in new sims game🥲

[@JazzGaming26]

One detail that I really love is how upset a child would be if they see one of their parents cheating. Even though it's only a game that made me tear up a little.

[@Ilivepuppys]

sims 3 had it too, sims 3 (maybe it was sims 2? well one of them) the child could even tell their other parent about the parent cheating

[@florriebellerose]

To add to that, I love how kids who have good relationships with their parents run over to hug them when they get home from work, or get excited to show them when they’re grades are up. It’s so cute.

[@ravenID429]

They can even catch their parents’ or siblings’ significant other cheating and be upset

[@danielawesome36]

​@@florriebellerose In sims 3, my heart melted a little when a young adult child greeted their parent if they see them after waking up😭

[@dbz9393]

youd be surprised how long the kid remember the cheating too, it can properly upset them psychologically through the game

[@PEWEHHS]

I also think it's worth mentioning the relationship system in the sims 2. The fact that sims didn't automatically have the exact same opinion of each other, you could have unrequited love, you could have a sim think another was their friend when they actually hated them, added a lot to the game. And also, ghosts! Ghosts were genuinely scary in the sims 2. The sound effects, the fact they could possess items like the teddy bear and make its head spin, the fact they acted out their deaths and left behind puddles and burn marks, even the fact they could scare other sims to death. All of that was so cool.

[@degx5228]

1.2K likes and no commentary, let me fix that

[@Avroxyy-jo2be]

Not to mention spouses with similar interests would resolve an argument while only suffering a minor relationship penalty, compared to those who had little in common.

[@nixxijanelle7334]

The puddles are so creepy, once my whole lot filled with weeds and i had to call a gardener to help! I guess that was payback from drowning her.

[@Hadeshy]

That relationship system is like, so obvious to me I don't get how it's not implemented

[@RoxasLov3r4Ev3r]

IT WAS DRIVING ME CRAZY FOR SOOOOO LONG when I first played Sims 4!!! I was like WTF is going on with my relationships and how do I fix this??! Then I found out it's a feature not a bug and there's no mods (last time I checked) to rectify it 🥲🥲🥲🥲

[@disaster4550]

I remember thinking that at least ts4 has better graphics but seing them next to each other is crazyyy 4 actually looks so bad 😭

TS2 looks really good for a game that came out 20 years ago, especially the textures

[@normalaboutpathologic]

@ Like that pizza? Amazing how bad that makes Sims 4 look

[@malenarocks24zm]

I think everyone is so used to seeing Sims 4 with mods, cc, textures and shaders. Without that TS4 is pretty bland.

[@kalilak9701]

Not to mention that you can default replace just about everything in the Sims 2, so it can look however you want it! You want realistic? You can do that. You want ts4-esque? You can do that. Alien planet? There's defaults for that. Medieval? You can do that too. You just have to do a bit of internet sleuthing to track some stuff down. >.

[@lounielouna7556]

no literally I was so shocked cuz I thought the same thing but the sims 4 looks so plastic next to the sims 2

[@myssangela4872]

All the lack of animations breaks the immersion, of course, but the worst part is with relationships. The cuddling while sleeping, the irreparably damaged relationships if you did something bad, the mere concept of CONSEQUENCES for what you do are almost absent in the sims 4. I still remember the first time I played in a rented lot in Saint Myshuno, an annoying neighbor told me I was doing too much noise and if I didn't cut it out she would have made me regret it. Needless to say I couldn't wait to see what would have happen. Try and take a guess? Nothing. It didn't even affect our relationship. This is the stuff that makes the game feel soulless. 😢

[@AlisonMendez-bx8tp]

It is definitely soulless. Game feels empty and like the sims have no personality

[@jkfd97]

The Sims 4 respresents the decline of Western society. People have been freeloading for far too long.

[@DovahKiink]

@@AlisonMendez-bx8tp I've played so many sims in sims 4 yet it all felt like i was playing the same person over and over

[@cupofjoen]

I have the same experience in that apartment. However instead of waiting what will happen, I simply let my male sim cheat with the neighbor's wife and got her pregnant. They broke up eventually but still lives in the same apartment lol. My wife? She knows it but oddly she don't mind it. I love breaking the game but this is a sign of underdeveloped games, lack of consequences. Because at the end, for some reason we become good neighbors lmao.

[@khmerchef]

I love how in Sims 2, personality traits of a sim also give different animations. Medium-Active sims change clothes at the dresser in a quick spin while lazy sims do a slow spin to change their clothes. Neat sims eat properly while sloppy sims tend to gobble their food while spraying food everywhere. Kids with good report cards run happily off the bus to show their parents while kids with bad grades crumple their report cards. I also love the lore that the creators built in the game. Each family/townie had a fun storyline that are play-ready. I miss The Sims 2 so bad.

[@lilyt.4895]

You can download it for free on the sims 2 subreddit :)

[@CosimaNonymouse]

The Sims 2 was made entirely by Maxis. Also, considering how hard hand and finger animations are to animate (to this day), shame on EA for reasons too many to count.

[@adorkible91]

EA is so much garbage. I really think 2024 is gonna be the year for indie devs. ❤

[@456loveluck]

​​@@adorkible91 their rules, their cut out budget😂, only focus on mostly sports games 🙄🏀⚽🚘 and money 💰 it makes sense now

[@MollyHJohns]

​@@adorkible91 meanwhile Sims5 is probably on the way to official launch. But you're right. Paralives and InZOI are the better replacement. I just hope they don't follow the same bloodsucking formula as EA's super expensive DLCs.

[@Gonzas97]

​@@MollyHJohns is inzoi really that similar to a sim simulator? I barely know about that game, the few stuff i watched makes it look like an open world game with social interactions.

[@artemis1993]

@@Gonzas97It's basically The Sims but you actually get to move your character around instead of clicking. The premise of the game is still the same as The Sims

[@WhyrenGP]

the best part about the sofa seat switch, is that in the sims 2 if you tell someone to sit next to someone that doesn't like them, they'll occasionaly autonomasly do that slide to block the sit down option.

[@Sitycims]

Wow I didn't know that one! 😮 I'll have to try it in my game

[@itscyberqueen13]

@@Sitycims I will fall out of my chair laughing if that is true that they autonomously block the seat on the couch if it's someone they don't like. 🤣 This is why ts2 feels more alive. These kinds of details that can be seen not texted to the player but SEEN.

[@AudreyLudlow]

​@@SitycimsSims do slide the other side of the sofa in the Sims 4 too. Not sure why you added an imagine of the sim standing up.

[@Sitycims]

​​@@AudreyLudlow They only slide to the next slot. If the couch has 3 slots, they'll stand up, which is exactly what I showcased.

[@Cvnt2201]

@@AudreyLudlowwaiting on your response, know it all

[@franthonlucas]

The cheating animation was awesome! When I cheated on someone in Sims 2 and heard that POOOOIMMM sound, I trembled. Then broken hearts and fire symbols appeared, followed by slaps in the face and sim's relationship photo turned red. The betrayed sim stayed furious for days and kicked the trash can at every opportunity. It was a true tragedy to cheat on someone, with a heavy emotional weight.

[@craigstephens93]

Sims 2 giving life lessons right there...

[@88kayleigh]

Sims in TS2 have so much detail and nuance in their animations too, depending on their personality. For example you showed Darren eating the chips and shoving them into his mouth, but Sims who are very neat will daintily take the chip out and hold it between their thumb and forefinger and place it deliberately in their mouth, like they’re avoiding crumbs.

[@abbsterlicious]

Yes!!! And like sims who are sloppy don’t make their bed unless you tell them to. and when they do that spin when undressing they do it super lazily. They will let the bathroom & counters get dirty if you don’t make them clean it they don’t even really care about getting bugs from leaving things out besides maybe being a lil annoyed. They might not even know if someone else takes care of it. Whereas neat sims will roll fear of getting bugs even if their lot is clean. if bugs ever show up on their lot they are like first to run to stomp them & that memory would stay with them for a few days. after extermination they will think about it & cry!!! but what I think really shows how much care went into this is sims who fall in the middle of “sloppy” and “neat” really are somewhere in the middle and it’s completely unpredictable! It’s not 50/50 it’s like for example I’ve noticed in my game those sims could typically make their bed most days/put away their dishes, but if they are in a bad mood they are not as likely to do these tasks. Like it’s so realistic!!! And sometimes neat sims get irritated at sloppy sims for being sloppy but sometimes they seem totally fine to clean after their roommate. lol a family I am currently playing when the two roommates eat together, one is stuffing their face so fast that food is flying everywhrre everywhere n the other is so polite and composed. but they are literally besties!. I just love that you really never know! Idk why I went on a rant lol but I have actually never seen the gameplay side to side like this before that really shocked me how different sims 4 is! I’ve never actually played it.

[@YellowBriefs]

As someone who has been playing since The Sims 1 in 2000, Sims 4 is an absolute disappointment and after it I consider the franchise dead to me. Sims 2 remains the best game. RIP Maxis.

[@drumbeard]

Tbh I'm torn between 2 and 3. 3, after heavy modding and some effort is really catchy and complex of a game. However it lacks the mood and vibe of 1 and 2, and complexity of animations is also sub par to 2. All in all I enjoy playing both 3 and 2.

[@YellowBriefs]

@@drumbeard yeah Sims 3 is definitely great and feels like a proper sequel, but the Sims 2 just has that mood that makes it my favorite

[@drumbeard]

@@YellowBriefs agreed. I wish they kept that mood. I miss 1 and 2 vibes in later games. That irony, parody of reality. It seems to me it was much more serious and mature than latter installments.

[@animagoldsmith1970]

Climbing Magical bean stalk miss me lol.@@drumbeard

[@solouno2280]

if it was named Sims ONE instead of sims 4, i would even consider it a "good game"... Sims 2 had AI at their best (still dumb but way better than 4 and 3) Sims 3 sacrificed storytelling and vehicle animations to deliver an open world experience with no loading screens. Sims 4 couldn't even get a fucking pool on release, and the "age states" were back to sims 1: children and adult only... and guess what? not even children were coded right! I just had a flirty little girl that started a relationship. I don't know if it has been fixed but i had the same fun as Chiches had with Saints Row: NONE. Played once and never touch it again

[@JaniTheDemon]

That's the difference between working for heart vs working for making money.

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

Eternal wisdom!

[@blakay5237]

I really crave a Sims game combinging TS2 and TS3, imagine the quality of life in animations, the huge worlds (open world too) different types of lots, the crazy packs like back to the future etc. real relationships. I remember playing TS3 for days on end as a teenager, always something to do with a single pack. I can't spend more then 20 minutes on TS4 without wanting to vomit, its boring, no quaility of life, bland interactions, no personality. Not even mods can make the game as good as TS2 and TS3. When paralives and other games come out, I'm completely ditching The Sims forever, the fact they thought this absolute trash of a game would go anywhere baffles me. Only think I really care about more in TS4 is how easy it is to place roofs now.

[@gyppygirl2021]

The Sims 4 is really good for building houses and dressing people up. Other than that, though? It has the absolute bare minimum to qualify as a game.

[@kayzmavc4596]

I remember loving how sweet the cuddling in bed was with couples in TS2. And winter in TS2 is far superior; I loved the animation of the sims walking in deep snow! I miss a lot of the special child animations, like sitting on chairs that was shown in the video, but also them running off the school bus to show their parent(s) their report card if they got good grades and running to hug their parent when they came home from work. I was also so surprised how lackluster the witches were in TS4. In TS2, there was so much detail and branching paths you could take with your witch sims - and the fact that witches came with apartments was mindblowing.

[@laceyallen8270]

all this and the idiots on the sims reddit will still claim that nostalgia is the only reason people say ts2 is better than ts4

[@KaleighSofka]

It’s really funny too cuz for a lot of fans of ts2, we never really stopped playing so there is no nostalgia. It’s just a better game.

[@isabellek-q3183]

@@KaleighSofkaI didn’t play sims 2 when I was younger (wasn’t even born when it came out) so I have no nostalgia and I think it’s a great game

[@cloudykat04]

ts2 came out 6 days before i was born, and i just started playing it in 2021 so there’s no nostalgia and i still think it’s better. i have a lot of nostalgia for ts3 (which i’ve been playing since i was little) but i still think ts2 is the best

[@jackkolero]

Sims 4 defenders are delulu

[@jihosz]

I guess TS2 is better bacause the sims sit in a more realistic way 🙄 the game is empty as hell, there's barely anything to do. Barely no objects, barely any activities, the fears are wacky (like why are they all still freaking out over bugs), there's barely anything to do in the public lots but I guess the Pizza slice slops, oh wow.

[@SevenEllen]

The Sims 2 creators didn't have to go so deeply on the detail, like the rain on roof! I didn't even know about that! They didn't have to do that but they did. The amount of thought, love, care, effort, time, and money that went into this ... This is why this game has a shelf life of forever and we genuinely loved it despite its' imperfections, but only when we started wishing The Sims 4 lived up to it we realized, the hard way, how much the company had stopped caring for quality. These are just a few of the examples of how they're doing The Sims 4 on the cheap, skipping the details, replacing animation with teleporting (seriously, what's the point of the elevator when the door has more animation??), but without any pride in this game, they're going to lose their customers to their competition.

[@slpm3253]

They kind of did have to. Like you may not notice it at all but altogether those details are why we still all loved the Sims 2 despite not having the open world of Sims 3 or the graphics of Sims 4. The immersion kind of happens without realizing it. Sims 4 I find myself so bored and these videos are helping me realize why. Sims is primarily an animation focused game. Cutting corners on that just makes it clicking and fulfilling stats.

[@jasonrodriguez7242]

@@slpm3253and also the ridiculous cartoon style that the sims 4 has. I hope they use unreal engine for the sims 5!

[@MeadowStargazer]

This is because the company that actually developed The Sims 2 was the now defunct Maxis, not a bunch of EA's faceless studios that have nothing to do with Will Wright and his OG team. The Sims 3 (the base game) was the last time they ever developed anything for EA before disappearing for good.

[@adrianblake8876]

​​@@MeadowStargazer You're deluding yourself. They're the same people. Here's a name for you, Lindsay Pearson. She was the person who developed both the Sims 2 and the Sims 4... The only person in the Sims 2 team that left was Will Wright, and he left after TS2BG came out, maybe stayed to develop a single EP and that's it...

[@mossy_brickens]

Details like roof under the rain are actually very important, they don't need to be noticed, but they're needed. Like bass in music, you really need it, but it doesn't need to be an accent, it can be subtle but it should be present. It seems like optional but as soon as you remove that stuff, everything will be flat and lacking ambience. Pretty much every working piece of art or content works because of details

[@CataRDJ]

Hopefully one day we'll have a life simulation game that captures the soul of The Sims 2 because EA certainly won't do it

[@King-Omega-]

Paralives, Inzoi and Life By You are all upcoming hopefully sometime in the next year. Who knows how they'll stack up but they can't be worse than Sims 4.

[@vlydia713]

@@King-Omega- I'm looking forward to all of these games, but still, The Sims was once a VIBE, and nothing else can ever replicate it, even if they end up having their own

[@jtaylor9880]

I remember that if you placed flowering shrubs on your lot, over time, they would attract butterflies.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Sims 2 is pure gold in the series. I forgot some of these, but that was the point. I was so immersed I didn’t think about how cool and detailed it was. I was just playing.

[@jennadelena]

If Their lazy To program why would they not Reused Sims 3 body and change the shape more realistic just saying

[@manyyoumas]

“when you do something right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all”. a little creative rule the sims 4 totally forgot

[@nickr3526]

That pizza blew me away. Not only the detail of the slices but the texture work on TS2 looked so much better over TS4

[@Feurigel1806]

Whenever I see the Sims 2 Pizza, I really want to eat Pizza cause it looks do good xD

[@reallifezuzu]

it made me hungry

[@meowmocha12]

Kindergarten Play-Doh pizza.

[@keit99]

Also the deliveryman for Pizza actually gets out of the car, goes to the trunk opens it, gets the Pizza out closes it and then walks to the front door

[@gianna1798]

​@@keit99 compared to in the sims 4, the pizza just materializes out of thin air 🤣

[@linneahulten405]

This video should go viral, really the details are important. It's sad they won't even sell Sims 2 anymore.

[@Sekee564]

the difference between these two games is that The Sims 2 was made with love

[@westanimesims]

How do Sims in Sims 4 do ANYTHING without touching knobs, drawers, doors and taps? I cannot with plates just jumping from the floor/table right into Sims hands. Did Don just CLAPPED while Cassandra is kissing Darren? Oh Sims 4, you are just slow. Yeah we buy clothes by taking the clothes OFF a mannequin. So realistic lol. Pizza is Sims 2 is still the best one in the series.

[@Sitycims]

Yeah the knobs situation in TS4 simply drives me crazy 😂

[@JazzGaming26]

The sims 2 pizza actually looks delicious.

[@gianna1798]

Especially the cooking animation! So much more realistic to grab a utensil out of a drawer while prepping rather than a knife just appearing and the sim slap-chopping it all over the place

[@Atsuhiko8888]

Quitting Sims 4 for Sims 2 and 3 was the best decision I've ever done, if there was ever a game that combined both Sims 2 and 3, I would buy that ASAP.

[@magdajabonska537]

Yes, personally I don't even need an open world as I like to micromanage my hoods, but in Sims 2 I miss interactivity and fullness of the outdoors and some types of community lots from Sims 3, I must say Sims 2 has better restaurants though

[@jayldeeway]

I was just thinking that recently!

[@peabuddie]

That's my dream game too. I love Sims 2 probably the most, but I'm spoiled on the open world of Sims 3.

[@flaekon]

Like 90 % TS2, but with the open world of TS3 would be my dream.

[@Katharine888]

​@@flaekonAgreed. I wouldn't mind if it also change color and textures like the Sims 3.

[@flamethrow868]

This just makes yourealize how much love went into the developement of TS2. You can see that the team was clearly passionate about this project.

[@Matextreme777]

I remember watching a chess match between my sims in TS2, I spent so much time weirdly intrigued by it and paying attention to every move they did. To see the state TS4 was brought to life (or to the lack of it) drives me insane.

[@cuppycakesrawrable]

I'm just impressed you were able to get that many sims to sit and watch a wedding in the sims 4 post wedding stories.

[@SimlikeitHot]

My Sims wedding had 12...you all don't know what you're doing.

[@xtonibx5770]

​@@SimlikeitHotHow do you get them all to sit down during the ceremony 😭 most of mine never do

[@SimlikeitHot]

@@xtonibx5770 it's been a minute since I married a Sim...but I believe when I'm ready to start the ceremony, I clicked on the chairs or the wedding carpet the bride and groom will walk down on and it said 'please be seated' or 'please take your seats'. Then all the invited Sims started sitting down. They'll even sit according to who they came with or related to, and they'll stay seated until the ceremony is over. Some even cry and wipe their noses..it's hilarious. You have to wait until all the invited guests are there though, for you can only do this action once correctly. If you do it more than once, then they will not cooperate. So wait until ALL guests arrive then click.

[@cuppycakesrawrable]

@@SimlikeitHot I tried this and my guests were busy doing pushups and molding clay. its extremely bugged for me.

[@SimlikeitHot]

@@cuppycakesrawrable I'm sorry to hear that. Wedding Stories has a pretty bad rep around here. Fortunately my game pack hasn't had many issues..runs pretty good. I was marrying everybody up! lol Only glitch I encountered was the officiant didn't say his part and I once forgot to buy the wedding cake! lol Hope your game gets better soon. Sorry.

[@bahar8742]

ive been wondering for years whats lacking in s4 and ive come to the conclusion is that the lacking thing is stuff like this. the characters human-like behaviour.

[@ravenID429]

And no personality, and their cartoony expressions

[@whippersnapper8387]

@@ravenID429that’s what instantly put me off sims 4. Like why do they walk and move so cartoony? I hate so much

[@bucky5506]

Another huge detail that only existed in sims 2 was water physics!! When they jumped in the pool, all of the water is affected. Never realized how motionless the pools in sims 4 are until I saw a side-by-side comparison

[@khaosangel1432]

The clapping while spouse is cheating 😂😂😂😂

[@darthbiam]

the chess game was mind blowing to me, when I first noticed I spent god knows how much time watching my sims play against each other. The horse, looks like a horse, AND MOVES LIKE A HORSE. The sims 2 is just perfect.

[@smellincoffee]

Even better -- in The Sims 1, the moves were strictly mapped to real movies. Will Wright was a stickler for it.

[@LeeDee5]

The sims 2 details and animations have aged wonderfully meanwhile no one will remember the animations for the Sims 4 in 20 years.

[@illizcit1]

Says you. Those animations haunt me and will forever. Lol

[@whytry4682]

@@illizcit1 i will forever remember my dogs walking like humans. that shits creepy

[@janesoren4079]

No one will remember the Sims 4 animations because it's quite hard to remember something non-existent XDD

[@LeeDee5]

@@janesoren4079 the bitter truth💀💀😂

[@SimlikeitHot]

Sims4 is already 10 years old and still going strong. Where is Sims2 and it's nostalgic animations? Stuck in a time warp on your personal pc... y'all are a sad group of indies. Stuck in a nostalgic cloud that is Sims2. LMAO

[@nwonknu-]

5:57 the couple sleeping together and waking up together animations in the sims 2 are sooooo cuteee omg 😭

[@Coastiestevie]

I also hate that they took out burglars in sims 4. It was always fun to try and catch them or call the police right before they struck! Also don’t like how everything is done by phone and you can’t drive vehicles or get picked up by them anymore.

[@jakhiraj28]

What I really love about the sims 2 is that you can tell they took their time with the animations. As for sims 4 it just doesn’t look realistic,lacks emotion, and detail ugh. I miss the sims 2 bring it back! 😭

[@annedr0id]

look up Ts2 starter pack ;)

[@ARedMagicMarker]

4:59..... Uh.... are we supposed to assume that she shoplifted whatever tf was, smuggled it up her cooter, and then awkwardly and most uncomfortably made her way out of the door hoping no one would notice? Because that's exactly what it looks like.

[@mooshinu]

That is actually HILARIOUS

[@rowan404]

LMAO

[@meowmocha12]

The woman in Sims 4 legit looks like she straight up shoplifted.

[@_dom_97]

I loved in Sims 2 the whole teen sneaking out at night. If your parent caught you, there was SO much dialogue from the parent giving out to the kid. It was so cool. Also how the teens would sometimes be brought back home in a cop car. Love sims 2

[@eclipciadarkmoon4105]

Wow.. I always thought the rain looked really flat in Sims 4... I didn't even realize that the older games *actually* animated it!

[@eclipciadarkmoon4105]

Pretty sure I've literally tried to find rain mods for TS4 before because it's so unimmersive... Lol

[@the_magicas]

When I saw the infant one I thought "Oh, I didn't know you could wash infants in the sink in Sims 4". Then I realized you couldn't 😭

[@itscyberqueen13]

This was great to bring to players attention. I would love it if you did a video showing how often EA used that "swipe" animation in TS4 and what animation they got rid of from TS2. I have always hated how lazy EA is with TS4.

[@Sitycims]

Oh I totally see what you mean by that "swipe" animation! 🙄💀💀 Yeah I keep that in the back of my head!

[@ultimatesheep2317]

u mean the swipe they use for everything like picking up plates? 😭

[@bullianas]

can you explain what this animation is? the one where they turn on themselves? I don't understand ;(

[@ultimatesheep2317]

@@bullianas it's the one where they do a "swipe" animation with their hands when they're like removing items, picking up a plate, anything magically disappears when they do that and it's used over and over

[@tyragrey5527]

They got lazy and more expansive...

[@dontneedtoknow6735]

This explains why the sims 4 needs so many mods to make it actually interesting to play. Sims 3 was bulky but the travel in towns was better since you could go anywhere, Sims 2 had the more lifelike animations, and Sims 4 has all these "options" but they all feel hollow and the interactions stagnant. In Sims 3 the characters really came to life. If I played sims 4 without mods I would never play it.

[@SagiiPooh]

My brain convinces me that some of these animations are still there (muscle memory) so I’m always disappointed when I remember they don’t do these things anymore

[@littlevivz1684]

No wonder I could play ts2 for days while only buildmode can get me to play ts4 for more than a couple of hours. Sad

[@magesticalmysterium6856]

And Also. when I saw Don getting cheated on...I was like "You Know What. now he knows what it feels like."

[@DarkSoulsZHL]

True hahahaha

[@mondelubisi1144]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@indeterminado7216]

10 years of "Evolution" for this?! Actually, it's even more, considering that The Sims 4 had much less at launch, so it's 20 years.

[@andrewdouglas4371]

not to mention the lemonade stands in TS2 vs TS4 was like wtf. It went from real lemons to powder mix

[@blindasmrgirl3276]

i like how she actually picks up the plate. some of the anims in 4 are kinda not full anims :O

[@Sitycims]

They definitely took A LOT of shortcuts 💀

[@lilibayou]

The sims 4 just disappear in front of an elevator door 😂 Such low effort, these videos remind why I never bothered with 4

[@heroinfather316]

i used to love watching my couples sleep in the sims 3! the way they cuddle when sleeping made my heart melt

[@theonlyusefulcomment]

Don’t forget they even have sunbathing where they get more tanned in the sims 2. And if they lay out too long they get sunburnt. So many amazing things in the sims 2 , it’s so superior

[@Miss0Mani]

4 has sunbathing but it came with island living you didn’t just get it. But you do tan and you do get sunburnt visually

[@katet8639]

Sims 4 also has sunbathing but its dlc related and crap.

[@kitturtle6629]

To be fair, Don Lothario is probably not the best example when it comes to seeing cheating.

[@Sitycims]

Haha fair enough! 😂

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

Modern Don is like ‘fair, you got me’ 😂😂

[@mondelubisi1144]

​@@TheDawnofVanlife🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@voguishthrone5887]

I’d like to see a comparison to the Sims 3! I know it stepped down in a lot of detail aspects, but I’d like to see the comparison

[@adrianblake8876]

I'd say that it's somewhere in between... But they did use TS2 asthetics (models and anims), so it has more of a TS2 feel... Cooking, for example, in TS3 is a bit more detailed, because it uses the ingredients from recipes. I do wish they had open shops, like in TS2 instead of the grocery, bookstore and spa rabbitholes, and that they'd've opened the restaurant rabbitholes for ambitions instead of (or in addition to, but if we had to choose one...) the enhanced medical career...

[@Roharix]

I'm a huge Sims 3 player, I played a lot of Sims 2 as well but on PS2, not PC, so I don't really know the differences. And I play Sims 4 a little bit, and as the previous answer said : The Sims 3 is in between, it's still have some TS2 great animations, but also some dull ones (like playing chess it just moves randomly). I think that's why I love TS3 this much, it wasn't like TS2, but was still way better than TS4. I miss the open world, cars, and most importantly : the customisation in TS3 is the best we ever had. I was disappointed A LOT the first time I played TS4 on that point. If we ever have a TS5 one day, I hope they'll take in consideration what peoples miss the most, and bring it back in their game. (I can still hope I guess ?)

[@gyppygirl2021]

TS3 skimped a little on animations, yeah, but it does still have a lot of the important stuff. Plus, each expansion pack gives you TONS of stuff to do. That, combined with the open world, elevates it in my eyes. Granted, I've barely played TS2 and refuse to touch TS4, so I can't properly compare LOL

[@keit99]

Honestly sims 3 was less detailed but I'm not sure it wouldn't have ended up as a slideshow with more.

[@keit99]

The attention to detail in 2 actually surprised me when I played it recently. Sims actually using an animation to get in cars? Them driving the car out of the parking spot? So good. And the I thought would this be possible in 3 and I'd argue no, not without looking like your car crashes every second. And probably leggy af.

[@gzapray7203]

No matter how many times I play TS4, somehow I return to TS2 or TS3 but most especially the latter. At this point, TS3 is the last game of The Sims series who retained its spirit in my eyes.

[@citriosis]

AUGHHH the couple waking up animation is one of my favorite little things in the whole game 😭 The little kiss on the forehead is just the sweetest thing ever

[@palytta93]

Sims 2 was made with so much love 😭💚

[@lug358]

When you send your sims to work, even when you cant see your sims career in the sims 2, sometimes you will have to take decissions that can afecta your sims' career, relationships or skill points. In the sims 4 you just wait for your sim to appear on the lot again. The sims 2 go to work in a car that upgrades as your sim gets promoted, and gets back home in it. If your sim has children in the sims 2, they will go and hug their parent when they arrive home from work. The Kids go to school on a school bus and say hi to the driver, go back home on the bus and show their parents their good grades. Every single detail is so crucial in the sims 2 to make it a timeless funny and wholesome game.

[@adrianblake8876]

There are chance cards in The Sims4 as well, though... But the lack of vehicles in TS4 breaks it hard...

[@tianam.964]

@@adrianblake8876 The chance cards for careers suck, they are more like “option” cards. In the Sims 2, the prompt didn’t include a warning as to the consequences, and the outcome for each was random. It was like the chance prompts that show up in the Sims 4 during holidays such as Love Day; you can choose the same option but you’ll get either a positive or a negative outcome each time.

[@adrianblake8876]

@@tianam.964 Idk what you mean, the chance cards in TS4 have random outcomes too... I've only dabbled in BG only in TS4, since I'm not paying for that POS...

[@tianam.964]

@@adrianblake8876 I’m referring specifically to the chance cards that pop up for careers. When it gives you the options, it tells you in parentheses below each what the outcome will be. “If you choose to X, this will happen” and “If you choose to Y, their life will continue unchanged.” In Sims 2, the career chance cards only gave you the two options to choose from, and each option had a chance for failure or success.

[@adrianblake8876]

@@tianam.964 I've never seen that on career chance cards in TS4, they work the same way as the Sims2 chance cards (except the result is sometimes just a moodlet and nothing else)...

[@endymion3071]

The Sims 2 also had different animations for different personalities!! As well as unique actions for those personalities too!!

[@HopefulWorld]

I would love to see a comparions like this between sims 2 and sims 3!

[@JenniferHales]

Was the EA team trying to downgrade. It's unbelievable how much better the sims 2 is.

[@saganathasme]

They wanted one game for phone, console and pc and multi-player

[@Ilivepuppys]

if simmers buy a less well made game and they still make bank why would they even care? Blame the sims 4 only simmers who buy every pack even if its crap

[@katet8639]

It's because the team for ts2 was different than the ones from ts4. Also, it was still maxis now it's only EA and the downgrade is significant. The sims 2 was made with care while the sims 4 was made with money in mind only.

[@katet8639]

​@@Ilivepuppysright. Complaining but they still continue buying the sims 4 and their recycled packs.

[@Ilivepuppys]

@@katet8639 I know right....sims 4 will never get better, infant update? more like annoying glitchy babies, toddler update? again glitchy toddlers which are annoying to look after, the only thing fun about sims 4 is build mode but tbh you can do almost everything in sims 3 and somewhat 2 you just need to put cheatcodes on.

[@Maik-iz7gs]

I've always felt that the Sims 4 graphics are really blurry and pixelated. The Sims 2 looks so crisp and clear in comparison.

[@passionable90]

I remembered waiting for the sims 2’s release since the day it was announced. I used to go on sims 2 fan sites for new updates every single day after school 😭 any new screenshot of the game, any new transcript of a chat room q&a that I missed, anythinggg. To have been there for the anticipation of the game and beyond, the sims 2 was made from a team that truly cared about that game. It is by far my favorite of the franchise, and I can only hope that one day they release it again as a remastered version that allows us to play it on newer computers. I miss it a LOT.

It would be great if they did that, I really want to try TS2 (I'm a TS3 fan). But EA is lazy so I doubt they would do anything like that :(

[@passionable90]

@ yeah, I would happily pay the sims 2 now if it ran on my computer. Its known to crash on newer computers, which is understandable-it isn’t configured for the operating systems of today, but man I miss it. You would love the sims 2. Especially after a bunch of cc lol

@@passionable90 Maybe it'll work in my 2012 laptop? I'll try it out someday.

[@tiasto]

The sims 2 details and animation + open world like the sims 3 + build mode from the sims 4 = would be a perfect game for when sims 5 was release

[@magesticalmysterium6856]

The Sims 4 is Buggy, but sometimes It can do something...just not very often...these are many of the times it just...fell on it's face lol

[@toomanymuffins456]

These videos are so important. I get lowkey a bit irritated when I see people defending TS4 and then they go onto say it’s the only one they’ve played in the series. And they make up a lot of the player base. The more people either forget or just don’t know how good it used to be allow EA to basically continue making Sims shovelware games…

[@hannah.montana2194]

I see a lot of people claim we only prefer sims2 because of nostalgia and they refuse to look any further. yeah I'm plenty nostalgic but I also have legit reasons..

[@gyppygirl2021]

I haven't played TS2 that much (just a couple of minutes way back when basically), and I will say any day that it's better than TS4.

[@albertocarlosbustos9892]

Lmao imagine getting angry at people who like a game you dislike. What a loser. Don't you have anything better to worry about? Lol

[@thetruecrystalvixen]

I always enjoyed the more in-depth detail to interactions. It made it more lifelike.

[@eightbitw0rld]

I feel like I just witnessed a murder

[@imogen5141]

I like how even in a race a sim from TS2 would beat one from the TS4

[@michaeljbowker9782]

the sims 2 all ways be the best the sims 4 EA got lazy on a lot of things

[@aaiinana]

The older games had so much more personality, now they’re literally like robots playing human instead of a game of actual simulated humans. I hope in the next game they add personality back into it and the charm of the older games, it’ll definitely make it more satisfying to play

[@GodGotYou212]

I know we're talking about the Sims 2 obliterating 4, but don't get me started on the embarrassment that is The Sims 4 soundtrack compared to the Sims 1 build/buy mode tracks which are GOATED for life!!

[@gyppygirl2021]

The Sims 1 music is timeless and iconic.

[@nitzan3782]

5:55 is the crux of all this. TS2 just had more love and care put into it. It also has MOVING HAIR. 9:45 with all due respect to TS2, TS3 is the one that excelled in object customization.

[@meowmocha12]

Patterns and a color wheel...

[@gyppygirl2021]

It's kinda funny. TS1 had no object customization, TS2 had good customization, TS3's customization blows every other game's out of the water... and TS4 is barely a step up from TS1. Lol. Lmao.

[@nitzan3782]

@@gyppygirl2021Exactly! TS3 was barely equal to TS2 in many areas, but the object customization was an objective, unambiguous improvement. Like sure it led to absurd shit like clothes made out of bricks, but the RANGE

[@gyppygirl2021]

@@nitzan3782 I would love to play with a fairy that wears a wood shirt and brick skirt

[@ervicito77]

I had more fun with Sims 2 because it felt a lot more immersive and relatable thanks to the detailed animations. The little, subtle things make a huge difference!

[@markellamor]

It's so good to finally see other people talking about this as well, thank you for making this kind of videos

[@cozy-ny4kr]

The animation of couples cuddling in bed is pure perfection. They didn't have to do that and yet it's such a sweet detail

[@mccorade5941]

God, the Sims 4 bathtub didn't even have a running water effect! It just fills up despite nothing coming out of the faucet. Meanwhile, the Sims 2 did not have to go so hard with animating the chess pieces to the correct irl movements, but i am absolutely glad they did! And i love the falling snow effect, the way the snowflakes dance around in the air, instead of just falling straight down!

[@Sitycims]

Yeah about the water effects, I posted a video comparing it a few months ago!

[@foxroxy86]

I have t played The Sims 2 in years but this makes me miss it so much. That game just had so much life. It sucks that modders are the only thing kept the Sims 4 going for me. It seems like The Sims 4 is developed from the perspective of being a building game. That’s where the team puts most of their efforts.

[@TylerYoshi]

I just thought of a way of describing the depth of the gameplay of each mainline Sims game. Sims 1: Pool (with the ladder removed, of course) Sims 2: Ocean Sims 3: Mariana Trench Sims 4: Puddle

[@gyppygirl2021]

I'd say that's pretty accurate. :p

[@AliciaCarrifee]

The intro😭😭😭😭😭 my childhood in a single sound

[@potts995]

2:46 THAT is a disgrace! I can’t believe Sims players let EA get away with it 😮

[@solouno2280]

not simmers, not players... they are comformists with no criteria, they are the engine of 21th century. Incompetent people that get subpar defective products for double or triple the price

[@the_magicas]

The couple interactions in Sims 2 are so cute!

[@RaccoonKCD]

4:23 You forgot the part where everybody stood up and walked off mid ceremony

[@thestarx3574]

If you told me the sims 4 was actually the sims 2 & vice versa.. I’d believe you… damn that’s so sad. I grew up playing the sims 2. And now i have sims 4.. I personally will always love the sims 2 more personally.. even sims 3. Sims 4 seems like the beta version of both of them combined

[@niny123souza]

It looks like the sims 4 was made for builders basically. I know we have a lot of personality and realistic interactions like raising a baby. But we do miss those daily details too

[@Ilivepuppys]

not really? Have you played sims 2 because raising a baby to adult is way more realistic in that game than sims 4. even sims 3 is better with gameplay.

[@saltandsriracha]

Ya for sure, I love building in 4. I spend most of my time building... the only thing that sucks is furniture customization.

[@Ilivepuppys]

@@saltandsriracha tbh I have been playing sims 3 so much more (more because my new pc runs it super well, its just so fun to play now) and I really enjoy building in sims 3 compared to sims 4 like yeah some steps you need to put a cheatcode in make happen while in sims 4 its right there but I also see it as sims 4 is kind of for new builders and its very easy to build a nice house since its super easy but in sims 3 and worse sims 2 bulld modes its much harder but you can pretty much do the same things and make the same kind of houses its just harder and takes more patients

[@mcNuggetMuncher]

​@@Ilivepuppysthe only improvement sims 4 has in building is being able to move whole rooms and even houses. But I never use that since I spent so much time building in sims 2 and 3 I don't feel the need for that feature.

[@junglecat4480]

oh man I remember playing sims 2 on console all day and night long, I coulnd't do the same with sims 4. the animtion on sims 2 is way better than all sims franchise

[@evenif7431]

I gave sims 4 a try bc it was free and got bored of it after two days (the lack of reaction to cheating was the nail in the coffin) but then I learned you can still get sims 2 on Macs through the app store and i've been enjoying it sooo much! I love that all the towns already have families with relationships and pasts instead of having to completely start from scratch

[@RoyalRadiantJade]

I miss the extra animations and I hate that they shy away from proper transitions with constraints and things just magically pop into your hand or pop on a surface. As an animator, it really irks me because it’s so lazy and we now actually HAVE plugins to make it easier to set up and animate compared to back then. The Sims 2 and sims 3 animations were so satisfying. PLEASE hire more long term animators 😢 not just contractors for new packs that do a choppy job because their time constraints in the contract is only 3-6 months and they need to make a deadline. I want heart back into the game 😭

[@Sitycims]

I'm currently working on a video about that! 😅👀

[@GuilhermeKitten]

Who eats chips in a bowl? Really, Sims 4 🙄

[@SinicDok]

i eat chips out of my dog’s mouth, no homo tho

[@oceansolstice608]

I do but only because I know I’ll eat the entire bag if I don’t pour into a bowl…

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

I do for portion control lol, get a handful and eat in a bowl ^^

[@Sitycims]

​@@oceansolstice608Hahaha I'm the same 😭😭

[@pedro6720]

​@RedRoseSeptemberthe22 the portion is the bag! Unless you're buying a big bag trying to save pennies

[@vic3675]

It's all about the ✨tiny details ✨

[@YouTubeCensorshipStinks]

what was really disturbing was that at the start of the video it took me a few seconds to recognize which was which.

[@Katharine888]

I haven't played Sims 2 in a while. I forgot how much the kids actually acted like kids.

[@B-zk9bt]

I love Sims 2 and Sims 3, mainly because there’s more stuff to do in them than Sims 4. I also love the time periods set in Sims 2 (Early 2000s) and Sims 3 (Late 2000s/Very Early 2010s). I find them to be more interesting than the hypermodern take on the mid-late 2010s/early 2020s, Sims 4 has. I miss giving my Sims botched plastic surgery.

[@malenarocks24zm]

The sims 3 was actually set ~50 years prior to Sims 2 if you look at the family lore. And Sims 1 was about 20 ish years prior to Sims 2.

[@lyoons1199]

@@malenarocks24zm Lore wise maybe, but gameplay wise? No. The OP is right. Compare certain things like phones and even the little MP3s lol.

[@gyppygirl2021]

​@malenarocks24zm That applies to Sunset Valley, but other worlds seem to have their own timeframes. Lunar Lakes, for example, appears to be set far in the future.

[@betuna9487]

Some people on this comment section made me remember something I heard about the sims. The sims depend on animation therefore it's like we're watching the lives of our sims play out like a VHS tape, or a telenovela. Just look at Sims 2 Maxi's premade neighborhoods the families there have some very dramatic things happen just like TV/Dramas and telenovelas. And also Sims 2 animations, are smooth, they have weight, and they even change based off of the personality your sim has.

[@felisazure1820]

The older sims games had a lot of charm in their animations that The Sims 4 is just kinda missing.

[@Noicul]

The expansion pack for animations hasn't come out yet? Weird. I'll stick to TS3.