You (developer) are BIGGER than your Tech Job!

[@superhumandose]

Man I love the pessimism in these comments. Keep up the negative attitude guys!, the more of you there are, the less the competition.

[@meowmesh]

Seriously man and we cry for having no job. There is so much more than a job.

[@lunarfifthstudios]

Yeah, as a creative freelancer I have barely programmed a few things and had some "aha" moments that made me realize I can basically program anything (given time), but even though I think of myself as an artist, musician, father, husband, and brother I am starting to see now that code and app dev are what will unlock the next steps of my journey... ...This video was an insanely helpful and inspiring reminder of that! 🙏

[@paulevans4905]

Outsourcing doesn't care about positivity.

[@lunarfifthstudios]

​@@paulevans4905 as well as originality! Cheers ✌️

[@itzhexen0]

Oh there is competition it's just in the form of AI now.

[@gingerjiang666]

I mean we can build stuff as a developer, but selling is actually the hardest part. Most of the developers you mentioned, they built their products for a few days or months, but selling them and making profits took them months or years.

[@TravisMedia]

@@gingerjiang666 learning to sell and market is a valuable skill for anyone to develop

[@mohamednaser4570]

as someone who does both, I see the video as a good reminder or way-opener for IT individuals to start building and not be locked in imaginary limits of a job. What Travis said is basically, go out there and make your own success in the world. And to your point, the two easiest ways to sell are 1- make a good product, enough so people use it, and treat them well so they talk about it well. 2- get a sales partner. I know it is easier said than done, but it is also not that hard, just start and in time you will do it so easily. Because to be a good seller you have to learn how to sell, and you do that by trying to sell. Those mentioned in the video probably had an online presence, be it they wrote articles, spent money advertising, or simply contributed to open source or certain communities. Nothing anyone can't do in the next 6 months.

[@GaneshPalraj1991]

Great video.

[@codeman99-dev]

My most successful project was a Discord chatbot. Real simple thing. There was a game I liked. Very stats heavy. I created some basic keyword-based commands that would make API requests for said game and return it in a conversational message. No AI or anything. Hosted it on a Raspberry Pi! Wasn't much of a cash generator, but did see a few thousand users.

[@jfhucka1]

Just as someone already mentioned, building is one thing but product market fit and marketing and sales is a whole other thing. Most of us are good at the first part but not the others.

[@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384]

Eh... most of you are building the same boring saas stuff over and over again... What Travis didn't push too much is that in tech you really need to build new exciting things that hasn't been done before. That is where the real fun lies. Building another todo app will not get you anywhere.

[@jfhucka1]

@@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 part of that is the product market fit, even if you get that you can build the coolest newest most novel idea, but without proper marketing and sales no one would give you money or know about you.

[@hotlinefrenzy]

​@@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 That probably solves the question why there are so unbelievably many options. (but more importantly why most are a copycat)

[@bigboypal]

2024 get rich as a software engineer guide: 1. Build a ChatGPT wrapper 2. Sell shovelware 3. Get my hands on the right combination of substances that will shut down my both conscience and the part of my brain that knows this is a house of cards.

[@jamessmith1652]

The answer is not for everyone to build a SaaS. But your examples are great for those who want to.

[@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384]

This. Eh... most of you are building the same boring saas stuff over and over again... What Travis didn't push too much is that in tech you really need to build new exciting things that hasn't been done before. That is where the real fun lies. Building another todo app will not get you anywhere

[@lcp45820]

Very good video, I love the part "You have to reset your mindset from one of a developer servant to more of a developer creator, a developer business." Thank you for teaching it to us!

[@aspiring_millionaire]

Hey I just wanted to thank you for bringing us such a quality content, love it how get straight to the point and not beat around the bush like the others You are awesome Travis!

[@AmantePatata]

we're so doomed if ai wrappers is all that's out there for us

[@TravisMedia]

True

[@IKcodeIgorWnek]

Well said, to build real products and to learn from them. Even though you won't sell them, you'll gain a ton of new skills. 💪🏻

[@Albertux]

Remember that 90% of startups fail, don't assume is so easy

[@TheHronar]

Remember that you aren't limited to one attempt. It's about perseverance. If 1/10 startups don't fail (Based on your 90% failure) then you only need to try 10 times to get something that does't fail. Lets gooooooo

[@GGYlenol]

@@TheHronar that's not how probability theory works

[@TheHronar]

@@GGYlenol no. But it’s how highly successful people stay motivated. It’s far easier to convince yourself to keep going if you have convinced yourself that it is indeed a guaranteed success if you do rather than having to try 10,000+ times to hit that 10% success rate. Also it’s not just a random probability there are other factors that are involved and your chances of success go up as you learn what they are and account for them. Someone who has made 100+ startups might have a 25% chance to succeed based on their knowledge and experience creating successful startups. Failures increase this too, as you have narrowed down things that don’t work and have learned some things that might help you iterate more quickly on your next idea.

[@saifsheikh1708]

But not trying is 100% failure 😅

[@webdev7095]

Are you saing 10% of startups succeed? That's insane! That actually means startups have the highest success rates among other great things you can do in life like applying for a tech job or getting into Harvard 😶

[@shugyosha7924]

I’ve been building a SaaS product. 4.5 years in and I’ve made a total of $800. Don’t start thinking it’s easy. It’s a serious undertaking. However, it’s possible to succeed if you outwork your competition.

[@dimslaev]

Man thank you! This is exactly what I needed to see.

[@stefanf6495]

Maybe part of the problem for us "problem solvers" is, that we cannot imagine for how simple problems "normal" people are willing to pay for - and that not even once, but on a subscription basis! On the other hand, I cannot imagine these business models being very sustainable. Economy going south, crossfit timer app is first thing to go. That said, respect for those guys milking the opportunies as the arise, even when their time window most likely will not going beyond some years or probably months.

[@shadowslayer2248]

Damn didn't know people would pay for such easy stuff!! I have seen so many people as well as myself face situations where we get some ideas and then drop it because a fellow programmer told that at the core it's just using some or the other API and it's basically a Gemini wrapper for some niche application. After seeing this, I feel like I should launch something soon! 💫

[@TravisMedia]

As long as it solves a problem. Non-programmers have no clue about the wrapper fiasco, they just see it as a solution to their problem which is, at the end of the day, business

[@justindjeumene1156]

Nice advice!! You are doing a great job!! Love it.

[@taterrhead]

almost all of this can be done with a little bit more time and just 1 subscription to OpenAI ... why are people paying for these?

[@11vag]

Exactly. However, I think most of us would never pay for something like that, but most people are not that into tech, so they have no idea that they are overpaying for something or that those things can easily be done. But that's how businesses are. That's the point.

[@tylerbenton4495]

@@11vag I think you hit it on the nail here. As developers, we know a lot of this is just ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, etc behind a nice user interface, and landing page, which is what you get when AI is so easily accessible... I'm not saying using the existing LLMs are bad because it's not, but when it's the core of your application, what separates you from everyone else? LLMs should act as a supplement to something that's great without it. I'm not knocking it. As someone making a SaaS, I won't knock the next person, but this is just the way it is.

[@AaronBlox-h2t]

@@tylerbenton4495 What's your sasa?

[@Licardo7]

Bro, how many times do us engineers have to say everything except hey let’s start a union

[@nic3point0]

I enjoyed your video. I think it would also be cool if you or any other KZbinr could have interview other SaaS developers to showcase their products.

[@ammasynkletyka]

What is the name of the application you are checking with which technology the site was created?

[@rhys9336]

Wappalyzer

[@c0t1]

Great video - lots of good ideas and advice here. Thank you.

[@abdulragib6004]

awesome video man

[@GaneshPalraj1991]

Great video man.

[@TravisMedia]

Thank you

[@alexanderlamas3353]

Hi Travis! Thanks for the video. It quite nice to see the possibilities on what a software engineer can do. May I ask you a question. What is this plugin that shows the amount of money the website is making? Is it paid? Is that the amount of money a website makes out of ad revenue? Thanks in advance. Keep the nice work!

[@codeme8016]

Great content. Thanks!

[@LeonegasHolmes]

What is this platform you're showing with the people's projects? It looks pretty cool.

[@TravisMedia]

@@LeonegasHolmes indiepa.ge I don’t have one or pay for it because it’s public and most people that use it have links to theirs

[@rupenanjaria]

Good video, which tool you’re using to know the monthly earnings and technologies used by each site?

[@Balance-8]

Where are you seeing these revenue pages

[@aamiranwar3990]

I have the same question

[@bandr-dev]

that next js boilerplace being 2nd product of the day is crazy. I can't believe people pay to have a basic setup. Who is it aimed for?? Anyone can do it, and still, people pay for it.

[@waxfrenzy]

anyone can grate their own cheese, but pre-grated cheese in a bag that's more expensive than regular cheese is a thing. Same principle.

[@Joshua.Developer]

This is very much a trade skill. Your bigger than the tech companies. You have the ability to make something from nothing.

[@jermainemyrn19]

I have been saying this. Corporations are nothing withought you. We need to start treating corporations like homeless people with their hands out because that's what an employer is.

[@isoaxe]

Hardly, but certainly don't treat them like they're doing you a favour either. It's simply an exchange of time for money. Both sides should benefit if done right.

[@markfsousa]

Where are you reading these projects from?

[@Bhavishya_est]

It took levels are you around 100 startup out of which only 7 were successful at last

[@LibraryOfTheOligarchs]

This is awesome!!!

[@shaurz]

I don't really get all this web stuff, it all seems very confusing to me as a C++ embedded developer! I really want to branch out and start my own business but I haven't come up with an idea that clicks yet.

[@Vihor95]

How do you see how much they earn?

[@parapadirapa]

what's that extension he uses to know the stack used and the stripe revenue?

[@cbrunnkvist]

I want to hire that guy that prepared 20 HTML templates on Fiverr ...

[@j.r.r.tolkien8724]

I think I heard the intro's background music in Pirate Software videos.

[@founderpal]

Day 0 without being called a ChatGPT wrapper

[@AISmartHustle]

Remember guys, it's all about marketing!

[@Joshua.Developer]

If you can get in $3000 to $4000 a month you have just replaced the average job

[@gabrielbarrantes6946]

Svg? I can find like 5 free svg generators converters, is people paying for that?

[@Divyv520]

Hey Travis , really nice video ! I was wondering if I could help you with more Quality Editing in your videos and also make a highly engaging Thumbnail and also help you with the overall youtube strategy and growth ! Pls let me know what you think ?

[@criticalthinker88gis13]

I could not have built any of them

[@YannMetalhead]

Good ideas.

[@Paul-uy1ru]

I hated the mental space that maintaining and being liable for a product took.

[@millen_basquiat]

Where is he seeing those entrepreneurs and their generated revenue? Is it some stripe ranking? Just curious

[@TravisMedia]

indiepa.ge/ I don't have one or pay for it, but the people that do always post their profiles and you can view their data publically.

[@mike2ykme]

Just a reminder that you can’t copyright ai generated content.

[@IsraelLazoPlus]

Thank you

[@ball-e]

Im not a businessman, I'm a business, man 🧐

[@Adam-yf3ss]

We follow all the same indie hackers.

[@geopopos]

I actually use noteforms!

[@derejegezahegn6525]

This channel ✌️

[@jerbear97]

press your left key repeatedly and rhythmically just as the video starts. thank me later

[@TravisMedia]

why would you want to watch me in silence 🙄 😆

[@LimitedWard]

Eh I'm earning $13k/month working at a tech company. I have unlimited PTO, a 401k with matching, great healthcare, and other benefits. For each of these successful startups, there's dozens more that fail to get off the ground. And the majority of these peter out in revenue once the hype dies down, at which point the developer abandons it to work on their next months-long side project. I'm not trying to be negative here, just pragmatic. Romanticizing SaaS startups by pointing at the successes and ignoring the pitfalls just seems irresponsible.

[@TravisMedia]

Definitely many great benefits in tech companies.

[@Ochecodes]

But i need money to pay for hosting

[@TravisMedia]

Vercel / Cloudflare pages is free

[@mohammedsaqlainshaikh7029]

Really Great Explaination but are you looking for a video editor?

[@abgraphics_]

Alert!! 🚨🚨 If you (programmers) continuously use ai then it will automatically train itself and become stronger day by day so please don't use it otherwise programmers critical analysis will end soon

[@juans9515]

Embrace it, you're left behind if you don't use it

[@coding4tacos]

So many haters in the comments haha. Personally, I want to start building more little apps like these, not because I think it's easy to generate MRR (quite the opposite!), but because they can be great portfolio items that can be used as a resume piece to get a job or find potential clients.

[@itzhexen0]

You guys act like it's impossible for AI to ever take your jobs as if AI couldn't take on a trillion different forms.

[@Mr-Yuki]

AI still has to be initiated and guided by a human being. preferably one with knowledge to diagnose. debug. and manage. the thought that ai is taking jobs. is stupid since it also creates other jobs

[@itzhexen0]

@@Mr-Yuki Well that's one form of it.

[@itzhexen0]

@@Mr-Yuki Let's try to the other trillion options.

[@itzhexen0]

@@Mr-Yuki It's not like you guys aren't all doing the same crap anyway.

[@itzhexen0]

@@Mr-Yuki At least we can knock it down to a minimum wage job.

[@bhp9415]

clickbait video, this is only a promotion for this indie hacker websites, stop the bs travis.

[@TravisMedia]

@@bhp9415 🙄 there’s always “that one guy” in the comments. Everything is clickbait.

[@benyu3947]

@@TravisMediaso true lol

[@iGhostr]

These are all worthless businesses, not real ones

[@geopopos]

I use some of these businesses in my business….

[@Abu_Rayhan]

How you find the earning of these saas products?

[@ekeminios]

It’s amazing how I’m thinking of a video that you recorded about putting in the time now to learn skills and want to watch it and when I open KZbin to check for the video and the first video I see is this new video from you. Thank you so much, Travis! 🩶

[@saifsheikh1708]

Please create video how can I create AI tools directory website. Please 🙏