"You Didn't Even Fire A Warning Shot." - Generation Kill (2008)

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"You Didn't Even Fire A Warning Shot." - Generation Kill (2008) #shorts #generationkill #movie #war
Generation Kill is an American seven-part television miniseries produced for HBO that aired from July 13 to August 24, 2008. It is based on Evan Wright's 2004 book Generation Kill, about his experience as an embedded reporter with the US Marine Corps' 1st Reconnaissance Battalion during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and was adapted for television by David Simon, Ed Burns, and Wright. The miniseries was directed by Susanna White and Simon Cellan Jones and produced by Andrea Calderwood. The ensemble cast includes Alexander Skarsgård as Sergeant Brad "Iceman" Colbert, Jon Huertas as Sergeant Tony "Poke" Espera, James Ransone as Corporal Josh Ray Person, and Lee Tergesen as Wright.
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[@movieinsightreal]

Colored smoke is not used only in preparation of some kind of attack. A team on the ground preparing for the arrival of approaching helicopters, for instance, could verify their identity using a pre-arranged color of smoke to mark their position for pickup. A group emerging from a treeline might do the same to verify themselves to friendly forces who might not know their exact line of approach. It could also be used simply to screen movement from enemy observation, just as easily as white smoke. Color could mean nothing, or it could mean whatever two or more groups had pre-arranged for it to mean, oftentimes via radio communications just before using the announced color. (Quora: @StevenWalker) YOU CAN WATCH THIS TV MINI SERIES "GENERATION KILL" (2008), THROUGH OUR WEBSITE IN OUR BIO

[@tommylewis3467]

Welcome to war. Oif 3,4 Army

[@daviswhite3591]

TP rounds are blue, orange smoke. TP rounds are not used in combat

[@Lewiss7423]

All fun and games till Damo accidentally marks an LZ with red smoke.

[@theGoblinStopper]

Smoke color is never prearranged as it can compromise mission integrity. Instead, a smoke is thrown, the bird will say “I got purple smoke” and the requester will say something like “purple smoke confirmed”. Other than that this checks out.

[@RealBelisariusCawl]

I was taught that if you’re popping coloured smoke for communication with aircraft, the procedure is as follows: 1: Select color 2: Inform via radio “(Aircraft Callsign) this is (Callsign), Smoke on (target/exfil/etc.)” *without* identifying the colour of the smoke. 3: Aircraft responds, “(Callsign) this is (Aircraft Callsign), I mark (colour) smoke, confirm?” 4: Radio “(Aircraft Callsign) this is (Callsign), Affirmative, (colour) smoke is (target/exfil/etc.)” or else something like “Negative, that is not (target/exfil/etc)” The rationale, I was told, is that if the enemy is able to hear your comms then they could confuse the situation by using their own smoke - that’s harder for them to effectively do if you let the friendly aircraft confirm the colour first.

[@ffx95]

3 days without sleep will do that for you. Worse than being drunk.

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

I've been thst tired thanks to chronic pain, and yeah, I started to hallucinate noises, I heard my mother scream my name, and she's been dead for 10 years

[@_just_another_filthy_redcoat]

After 2 days when I’m talking to my self I start getting a reply from someone else, that’s when I normally get me head down 🤣

[@devin6201]

Almost as bad a being shot because of that. US soldiers committed war crimes. This is fiction based off reality

[@kalebtheloser616]

Yep start hearing seeing feeling shit that ain't even real

[@pablo_giustiniani]

​@@jimbothegymbro7086Holy shit. This is massive if true.

[@nahoy350]

This is why sleep is important for soldiers. He hasn't slept for 48 hours. When it's like this, judgment is definitely the worst. RIP ROB zombie

[@CAPTAINMIIDGET]

more like 72 hours by this point

[@PopUpPaco610]

Wtf Rob Zombie ain’t dead

[@GrimSoldat]

​@@PopUpPaco610No no. After Walt realizes he fked up and Brad pulls him aside to see to him. The others look at the other occupant in the vehicle who had rounds that hit his head and mangled his face. They look and said, "That's some Rob Zombie shit right there."

[@Narfwak]

@@GrimSoldat it's not entirely clear in the show what happened, but the book goes into more detail as to why they say that. walt hit the guy so perfectly between the eyes that he lobotomized him. he was still alive and breathing, but with no prefrontal cortex.

[@vbkngx]

@@PopUpPaco610 Rob Zombie is what one of the troops calls the guy in the car they shot, happens just after the video cuts.

[@nathanjohnson1853]

I think one of the most important parts of this scene is that this is the most significant part of the series where Brad loses his cool. He gets pissed off a few times previously (notably with Encino Man), but he full out berates a team member in front of the whole platoon. For all the other times Brad is as cool as a cucumber, that's a pretty big deal.

[@justanothergopnik1853]

@@nathanjohnson1853 because it wasn't just an internal fuck up, innocent people were hurt and killed directly by their actions.

[@SomeoneElseInTheComments]

You deprive a man of enough sleep, he's bound to screw up. That applies to Walt and that applies to Brad.

[@billlai5654]

You can also tell he immediately regrets going off on Walt, asking Walt if he was ok. To give Walt credit, he was sleep deprived, stressed, and on top of that his squad is operating a new SOP he’s unfamiliar with. Just look at that man’s thousand mile stare and the regret he has afterwards, he isn’t all there. Brad kinda realizes immediately that he has blame in this too for not looking after his people, and not realizing something’s wrong until too late.

[@AlexSaysHi2013]

"Car kept coming" just another victim of war. A young man doing his job

[@matthewthiele6020]

@@AlexSaysHi2013he is not a victim, he is the perpetrator

[@MrManfhis]

What really sucks here is that this happened to Walt, the guy that felt the most normal out of the whole crew. He was just dead tired and wasn't thinking straight.

[@ciamciaramcia99]

I think what REALLY sucks is the civillian getting shot, but that just me...

[@ravenoferin500]

​@@ciamciaramcia99Sucks on all ends. War just sucks man. There's no pity prize. Just the dead, the wounded, and the broken.

[@Bmyt612]

@@ravenoferin500shouldve never been there

[@daviswhite3591]

What would you know? Oh. Right. You were not there.

[@tbohn10]

​​@@daviswhite3591 I know enough to know the reason we were there was a lie.

[@TheFrogEnjoyer]

The guy playing Walt was really good in this scene

[@laimejannister5627]

Yeah totally he should think about charging people for acting

[@UNITED_STATES._______________8]

@@laimejannister5627some people just like doing stuff to not be at home all day

[@laimejannister5627]

@@UNITED_STATES._______________8 oh so kinda like the folks who do my gardening, got it, thanks man

[@UNITED_STATES._______________8]

@@laimejannister5627 basically lmao just having your name in a movie could make you millions so he’s more than fine

[@laimejannister5627]

@@UNITED_STATES._______________8 well putting aside the fact that this is a tv show, hbo sure, but still far from movies, clearly you are not in the movie industry so it's understandable why you would think that

[@Balpindo]

3 straight days no sleep

[@themutualfriend5286]

Excuses excuses he's a professional soldier.

[@frederickbarbarossa7961]

@@themutualfriend5286you go 3 days without sleep and tell me how your state of mind is.

[@jonathannevarez645]

@@frederickbarbarossa7961accidents happen

[@HorFell]

@@themutualfriend5286being a professional service member does not magically change the way the human body functions. Go just 24 hours without sleep let alone 72 hours. Then picture you’re in a desert in 100+ degree heat with with two layers on. Then add in that you’re in hostile territory with people out to kill you. Give it a shot bud

[@n8bayonet]

I think he was making a joke ​@@HorFell

[@maxducks2001]

Something I want to point out is the mention of suicide bombers. For the entire rest of the series, any time they interact with civilians, that one line makes you wonder if someone’s gonna do it. But it never comes. That tension stays. That paranoia.

[@ClearGalaxies]

Cool. Thanks for the spoiler

[@diegopugaquintanilla4344]

​​@@ClearGalaxies you had 16 years, man

[@grilledleeks6514]

Snape kills Dumbledore. Idiot

[@Max-js1mx]

​@@diegopugaquintanilla4344I've never heard of this movie till today,, so I only had 5 minutes really

[@hydralisk3534]

Well that’s what you get for invading another country and committing mass murder

[@MugenZeroX]

That look on the LTs face after they scare off the first car, it's like "okay cool, first time luck"

[@patrickmahon3476]

Yeah, totally like a parent that doesn't trust it.

[@fire7664]

you cant spell lost without LT

[@Voron_Aggrav]

@@patrickmahon3476 he was sceptical about it's implementation, Hope isn't something any Soldier would love to base decisions upon, same goes with Luck, when you have to rely on either you got quite the problems on your hands

[@jamiestewart48]

His priority is to get his men home alive. If a car full of explosives speeds past that smoke and gets close enough before being taken out they're all fucked.

[@MasterfulMandela]

“Patterson fire a warning shot,” “Sir this is an M32 grenade launcher” “Ah potato, potato just fire it Patterson”

[@Laviri_Official]

Russianbadger

[@MultinationalCrabLegion]

What video is that from? I can't find it

[@MasterfulMandela]

@@MultinationalCrabLegion I’m pretty sure it was a video on the division two

[@Palmtop_User]

I opened this video just to find this comment

[@phoenixmodellingphotography]

Wow a Patterson Potato sounds absolutely scrumptious don't you think? I cannot believe there isn't already a meal called the Patterson Potato! Could even branch out into tater chips and call em Patty's Potato chips...or even Pat & Son Potayo Potato's. Too many options really, it's crazy. I can't believe there isn't already a Patterson Potato at all yet though I mean wtf! 🤨

[@mr.bombastic413]

In their defense, who looks at a roadblock with all these guns aiming you and thinks “Yeah I’ll keep driving at them”

[@mbpaintballa]

You'd be surprised

[@SSODP]

I like the idea of "natural selection". - Me thinks it should be allowed to work it's wonders again.

[@mattperry9048]

People are going to stupid. I know a few fellow Americans who absolutely would panic and freeze (foot off the brake), or would just refuse to drive different for foreign occupiers, or would consider bluffing their way through.

[@dudakof]

I have to imagine the thought is 'well, they're not here for me. I just wanna go home.' Same as when there's a police standoff in an apt complex

[@dragonsword7370]

People don't all react logically when the fear induced adrenaline starts hitting their system like a freight train at 90mph.

[@Star_Spangled_Man_With_A_Plan]

"what are you gonna do with that smoke grenade?" "Respectfully, sir, I'm gonna smoke it"

[@phoenixmodellingphotography]

You served too huh? Ha! That takes me back...

[@UnRu1eD]

Fatigue is your worst fucking enemy.

[@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot]

Skill issue

[@mattperry9048]

Well. Wasn't the bleeding guy's worst enemy. But if you're trying to be a perfect paragon with a gun in a foreign country, hoo boy yes.

[@jameshunt9208]

Right after politicians micromanaging wars, anyway.

[@spvillano]

@@mattperry9048 well, you're welcome to show us all how it's done. We'll start with decision making at 24 hours sleep deprived, then at 48 hours sleep deprived, then at 72 hours sleep deprived. I'm moderately degraded at 48 hours, at 72 hours I literally have trouble counting to 10. I'll even do it alongside you, you'll probably have the advantage, as I'm a retired NCO that's now 62 years old. Want to put your money where your shit talking is, we'll go paycheck against pension check.

[@JohnSmith-j7n]

@@spvillano How many civilians have you shot to death? "I was sleep deprived." Isn't really an excuse when you start firing into crowds of civilians and bombing weddings. If you have an issue with being sleep deprived then why were you even there in the first place?

[@DougMickey]

I wont lie. First time i watched this, it seemed like the car did keep coming. Cant imagine trying to make that decision with massive sleep deprivation.

[@Gravedigger933]

I've gone days without sleep before. I was more impaired than drinking an entire bottle of hard liquor.

[@dekeking9416]

For hell week, they deprived us of 3 days of sleep and had us constantly moving. We were so tired we started hallucinating, that's when they finally made us rest cuz if we didn't, we'd have literally died.

[@soinaru]

The torture of not being able to remember what this series was called for over a decade and a 1/2 has been agonizing for my memories. All my searches for military tv shows could never seem to narrow it down. I remember watching this as i transitioned into high school. I'm really glad i can finally put this memory to rest now

[@tekknorat]

Generation Kill

[@greggstrasser5791]

They scrub a lot off the internet. This is the most real protrayl out there. They don;'t want it burned into the zeitgeist. Hard to find Gardens of Stone also.

[@cichlisuite2]

I had totally forgotten about this series but it all came rushing back as soon as I saw the character of Brad. I loved this when it screened and can't believe I'd completely forgotten it. Thanks for triggering a buried memory OP.

[@greggstrasser5791]

@@soinaru I had reply on here that said they scrubbed the Internet so you can’t find the show. They scrubbed my comment off.

[@QuisUtDeus828]

​@@greggstrasser5791 ah yes they totally don't want you finding the show they created 😂 the worst thing about my fellow conspiracy theorists is that they don't tend to apply any common sense to their ideas and that's how we end up woth this

[@MadMan-vs2mc]

If you see big military vechiles with all their guns pointed at you that's pretty much the sign to stop and turn around.

[@Lotek117]

Yeah for us.. But in Iraq they delt with this everyday. Like 1 quarter of the population was military before we invaded and they were everywhere! Saddam had check points everywhere and these people didn't have western TV or internet so they figured these checkpoints were the same as the old Iraqi military ones...

[@jamesgoldring1052]

​@@Lotek117not only that, but turning around would make you look like an enemy running away People don't want to be confused with an enemy

[@yingleekit]

i was also wondering.. why not put a barricade .. 100 meters away from them? just find rocks or whatever n spray paint a sign say dont come in?

[@fidjeenjanrjsnsfh]

​@@yingleekitthey can't even speak arabic, you want them to write it?

[@jamesgoldring1052]

@@yingleekit they want the enemy to make mistakes and blunder into them

[@tonukefraser543]

“It was a warning shot, to the rest of the people in the car”

[@raidzeromatt]

The idea of giving a warning shot at that distance is ridiculous If someone loads up a car with explosives they're still going to wound most of those guys setting it off at that distance

[@liquidsnakex]

@@raidzeromatt Almost all engagements on film are at unrealistically close ranges, otherwise you’d just be looking at a dot on screen.

[@phoenixmodellingphotography]

​@@liquidsnakex Wow really makes you think though what kind of show we could've got instead if the Dot Boys were back in town

[@MarkieMark-vy7hg]

People often forget those guys would be 18 to 25 years old right there.

[@smtxs9274]

I bet the grand majority were 18-19-ish. 25 yrs old is a grown ass man in military years

[@Lagmaster33]

@@smtxs9274 Well, you bet wrong. Most of these recon guys were in their early 20s. A bit more seasoned than your average grunt.

[@smtxs9274]

@@Lagmaster33 I see your point

[@fidjeenjanrjsnsfh]

That young and war criminals already. Good for them the US has a war criminals protection law in place.

[@Redwood_redrock]

Jesus Christ already KZbin fine I'll watch the fucking movie

[@Warthog117]

Not a movie. Eight part series. Really worth a watch.

[@Felix-xv3wg]

So real, read the book too.

[@shanegibson3281]

Oh damn i didnt know it was a series lol​@Warthog117

[@thetute59]

@@shanegibson3281 its called generation kill and among many military people it seems to have the reputation of being the most accurate representation of military service. Enjoy it, its good

[@BjrnOttoVasbottenbjovas]

We are all slaves to the algorithm

[@shawnbrower4062]

I feel like he didn't describe that right, he tells them "we can still kill the car if they don't stop" and "don't fire unless they drive through" which makes it really seem like it no other warning shots are to be used. To be fair I'm pretty sure you're supposed to still wait for your co to tell you to take the car out, but from the info given he didn't do anything wrong the warning was given car didn't stop fire to stop, usually how it goes.

[@oisinpender8570]

While I understand your points and agree 'we can still kill the car' to me sounds like shoot the car it self more than the person in it

[@aquadox5514]

​@@oisinpender8570 That's a good way to get a rigged car into a lethal range for your buddies.

[@Voron_Aggrav]

@@aquadox5514 if Car does not care about Bullets, move barrel up slightly, Easy as that, an Engine shot and a Driver shot isn't That difficult to change to within seconds

[@aquadox5514]

@@Voron_Aggrav The guy didn't want to end the driver. I suggested what you basically said. Without a driver it stops quicker then with a damaged engine.

[@samuelcousins7229]

except, watch it again, the car did stop.

[@josiahhockenberry9846]

I was in that exact situation more times than I care to remember and I thank God everyday that our platoon sergeant drilled trigger discipline into us daily.

[@milkkkc377]

The Bible says in Revelation 18:23 that the entire world is deceived by Babylonian sorcery. Look into the origins of holidays like 🎄 🎅 🎃 🐰. These are pagan holidays that serve other gods which God hates. Romans 1:22-27 says that serving false gods with these holidays is the reason why we're living in Sodom and Gomorrah right now. If you do not repent from these holidays you will be deemed an idolater on judgement day, so if you don't want to burn in everlasting fire then you need to repent from this wickedness that Satan has deceived you into doing. Then go pick up the Bible and start reading it from Genesis to Revelation, because you will be destroyed for rejecting God's knowledge. Did you know that you're supposed to be keeping the Saturday Sabbath? Read Exodus 31:16-17. That commandment is forever, meaning you're still supposed to keep it today. Did you know that you're not supposed to be eating pork? Go read Isaiah 66:15-17. God will consume unclean eaters with fire in the tribulation. Did you know that the Bible explicitly forbids putting up a Christmas tree? Read Jeremiah 10:1-5. Do you wanna know why the government is so terrible? It's because God is using it to punish his wicked, covenant-breaking people. Read Leviticus 26. This punishment was prophesied thousands of years ago. Read Romans 13. You speaking evil against the government is helping nothing. If you actually want to be protected then start obeying the holy covenant - the ten commandments. You do not have a lot of time left. Pride goes before destruction and we are at delusional levels of it. Judgement is coming to the house of God first so you better be prepared before tribulation comes to a stiffnecked people who hate God's commandments and reject his word. Because you are not getting raptured if you're ignoring everything God is telling you. If you don't want to be told depart from me I never knew you then you better start getting to work.

[@Kuti210]

Ay good shit man, the Iraqis will never trully know how much most of us valued their lives, everyone was in a very fucked situation

[@phoenixmodellingphotography]

​@@Kuti210Not to mention valued not having the murder of an innocent civilian on your conscience for absolutely no good reason. That's the kinda accident PTSD is made from

[@fridrekr7510]

Thank god you had basic training? That's a pretty abysmal standard.

[@svodcat7524]

​@fridrekr7510 they're Americans, friend. They didn't level the place and call it a win, uncharicteristicaly, let's just be somewhat glad on retrospect.

[@synthwavecat96]

Man, poor Walt. Strung out from not sleeping for days, completely misinterpreted Brad's orders and accidentally wound up fragging a civvie.

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

In confused how he misinterpreted them. Seems to me like he had shitty, unclear orders.

[@Voron_Aggrav]

@@Gr3nadgr3gory You try to do that after 3 days with next to no sleep,

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

@@Voron_Aggrav you can blame the brass for that.

[@Voron_Aggrav]

@@Gr3nadgr3gory probably blame a lot of different factors for that, soldiers rarely get the opportunity for 8 hours of sleep when active, usually an hour would be a luxury

[@PMMcIntyre]

@@Voron_Aggrav thanks to the brass. A soldier's most dangerous enemy is a commissioned officer.

[@Ret4rdedN0blemen]

How to made locals become one of your enemy Tutorial

[@oldphart-zc3jz]

A key error IRL was early failure to post LARGE LEGIBLE signage in Arabic ordering vehicles to halt. Remember civilians don't know what to do at roadblocks unless they're told in the simplest possible terms. Simple barriers would also indicate halting was required. Also remember the US trained for ground combat not policing, and that invading Iraq in the first place was a catastrophic mistake which diverted forces best used as deterrents to nation-state war. Nothing was learned from Viet Nam (I was alive then but enlisted much later in '81)) and nothing lasting will be learned from GWOT because when those involved retire the next batch of exceptionalists will do something like it yet again. The US does not produce introspective militarily literate civilians and that prevents elevation of anyone challenging orthodoxy du jour.

[@nowthisis2stupid]

If I recall correctly, this was the first 48 hours in Baghdad, they are Force Recon, they don't have the logistics or time to support posting signs.

[@Nippleless_Cage]

God damn what an excellent comment. You took the words right out of my mouth.

[@DMFTexTex]

Regular war criminals documenting their own crimes

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

The smoke is the fucking warning shot god damnit.

[@mreboric8406]

We had a big red kill line at our COP. Anything that went over that line without our say so got blown the fuck away.

[@superman60201]

At least they use the real sounds of weapons. Not a shotgun sound for the m203.

[@duxdawg]

It helps lessen PTSD when they use the wrong sounds for firearms, explosions, etc. About the only kind thing Hollywood has ever done for us...

[@Cakey831]

We used those in Ramadi, and a guy from another platoon almost killed a guy when the lead slug inside of it skipped off the road and hit him in the mouth.

[@guywhodoesstuff3314]

That happens later in the series. They fire a smoke round, and it bounces off the road before burying itself in the back of someone's head.

[@jaydeleon8094]

@@guywhodoesstuff3314 he lives thankfully

[@someguy4512]

@@jaydeleon8094 no he died it was elderly man who got shot.

[@jaydeleon8094]

@@someguy4512 yeah, no. they passed the guy later on, sitting on the floor and eating.

[@someguy4512]

@@jaydeleon8094 fr? I never catched that when I first watched it.

[@jojo18042000]

They could also put up a stop sign or a barrier tape.

[@Fulcrum-27]

and let everybody halt by a smiling hooters chick holding a fresh coke in her hands and asking them gently not to suicide bomb them? it is war lefty.

[@TheGreenTaco999]

they like the challenge

[@Schatten2712]

In my hospital patients that arrive late at night are often told to be patient, and wait a few hours for the shift change as the doctors on duty haven't slept in hours and the one's arriving are fresh as a daisy, so their decision making is crystal clear. Sleep deprivation can easily make you impulsive, make you make wrong decisions where you would have normally considered other alternatives.

[@joee7626]

Maybe push to shorten the Doc's shifts, or stagger their shifts so a relatively fresh one is always on hand?

[@E.V.A.N-COProductions]

In war, there are no wrong choices. The enemy is there, rather imagined or not.

[@thesugar5832]

To put in perspective driving with no sleep is the same is not more dangerous than drinking, imagine if you’re that sleep deprived trying to make a rational decision on whether that car could be the last thing you see as there could be hostiles in it.

[@Frille512]

My forklift instructor told me that sleep deprivation does the same thing to your brain as drugs and alcohol. Might not be entirely true but i see no reason to disregard that advice

[@towely]

@@Frille512 worse, we aren't talking about some dudes being a little tired here. They were sleep deprived for more than a few days. Mild sleep deprivation is like being drunk.. extreme sleep dep causes anxiety, paranoia, hallucinations, detachment from reality.. it's downright terrifying.

[@spvillano]

@@towely my wall was 72 hours, by that point, I literally had trouble counting to 10. I was moderately degraded and beyond irritable at 48 hours. Trust me, it's worse effects than being drunk from downing two fifths beyond 48 hours. As in, "I heard of reality, but currently, we're estranged". And if they had stuck me in a command and staff meeting at the two day mark, there likely would have been no survivors. There'd be very little restraint against death by powerpoint remaining.

[@ElNeroDiablo]

@@spvillano I've managed to get to around 40-48 hours awake as a civvie with a combination of 'Tism hyper-focus and New Game Syndrome. Persona 5's release in 2017 for PS3/PS4 had me wake at 0600 on a Tuesday, game arrive in mail from UK at 1200 Tuesday, and drew me in playing it, to the point I only stopped and thought "hrm, I should have something to eat" at 1800 Wednesday after playing the game for 30 hours straight. Since then, I've noticed that if I'm awake for 24 hours or more, I tend to be more... passionate... in my argumentative conversations over passions of mind such as games and PC tech, no matter if I'm keeping up or not on my meds meant to mellow out such tendencies when dealing with people (I have a fairly low threshold when it comes to dealing with human stupidity).

[@ketaminefrog3897]

No sleep for 3 days can turn the greatest men into shells of their former selves

[@user-mu1cy7ny2n]

But when the enemy does it, its because they are the definition of evil

[@Shade552]

"Dont fire unless they come thru" WTF THAT WAS A WOUNDING SHOT. listen sir. he came thru.

[@crimson3274]

People talking about how sleep is so necessary. Through my mil training I learnt that there is something worse than lack of sleep. It's the fear of what might happen if you don't react. It's extremely hard to keep yourself together. No amount of self discipline will prepare you for that.

[@secretname2670]

I am not allowed to say the exact occurence on youtube, but I've seen good young men getting fragged because they decided to operate by the rules. When there is war there is no rules, there is only you and the enemy. Gunfire has the right of passage.

[@badkarma9898]

Oh, yes, yes there are rules, and the JAG Corps lives to nail GIs to a cross for breaking them because this isn't Korea or WWII anymore where Geneva was a long way away. Now the Geneva Conventions and the Law of Land Warfare are a quick cell phone call away. Not to mention Nightline, 20/20, 60 Minutes, CNN, MSNBC, FOX News, ABC, NBC, CBS, AP, Reuters, Al Jazeera, the BBC, and literally hundreds of newspapers and magazines.

[@TheGreenTaco999]

@@secretname2670 you actually just said that self discipline prepared those young men to face the fear of what happens if they don't react.

[@secretname2670]

@@TheGreenTaco999 ok and? You absolute zoomer? Discipline does not impede common sense, which counter-intuitively, seems rarer by the minute, the longer I read comments here.

[@attilakovacs5040]

Outta experience: 3-4 days without rest or with micronaps is JUST like this and it is driving you crazy. Let alone a soldier,a casual civilian even. Worse than being drunk or high even. That is the state when the person should truly get to a resting place,ANYWHERE that is sort of safe.

[@disposabull]

I always knew the visual hallucinations weren't real but I couldn't handle the "time confusion" very well. Trying to figure out if you had a conversation 5 minutes ago or 2 years ago messed with my head.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

The concept of a warning shot will never not be insane, as I imagine any sane person would just go “they’re shooting at us!” And not bother wondering why they missed

[@procrastinator41]

I'd say blue smoke was a very clear warning

[@joebob4591]

it was a very clear warning because they braked

[@cookiemantv1411]

They braked and still got shot

[@procrastinator41]

@@cookiemantv1411 they braked, then came ahead

[@BoomStick4287]

When seconds count its hard to judge... in all fairness it did keep coming...

[@bryanty.6098]

And that's how you turn 1 insurgent into 50

[@breadtoast1036]

sadly EVERY country commits terrible crimes but actually enforcing war crimes is incredibly difficult

[@gary9346]

​@@breadtoast1036and that makes this okay?

[@breadtoast1036]

@@gary9346 no, just pointless to worry about such things, civilians will always be killed in war and sometimes worse then that, nothing anyone can do

[@gary9346]

@breadtoast1036 Yeah that's a pretty psychotic mindset you got there. Fortunately we have rules of engagement and Geneva conventions to keep you from having too much fun.

[@kylearnold1034]

​@@gary9346 🤦he didnt say it was fun or anything like that, just that so many soldiers do shit in the heat of battle that won't leave evidence, because it's a BATTLEFIELD

[@williamcharles2117]

My friend's son was with Marines 1/5 for the fall of Baghdad. When he came home I asked him about his experience in combat The first words put of his mouth were, "We killed people for no reason." He also told of checkpoint SNAFUs. I got traumatized just hearing about it. He lived it.

[@jesusofbullets]

Fear, bad situations, and lack of sleep is a bad combo.

[@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot]

Skill issue

[@jesusofbullets]

@@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot Weird for you to call yourself out, but ok.

[@GoldBean2752]

@@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot you try it, buddy

[@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot]

@@GoldBean2752 Only the US can make a movie making you feel bad for the US invading another country :]

[@spvillano]

@@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot soldiers don't get to choose where they're deployed to or who we're making war with. But, it's nice to know that you think that skillz fix sleep deprivation and that soldiers get to choose national policies. Any other pearls of wisdom that you wish to dispense from your years of experience acquired on your Twinkie encrusted sofa? Here, let me get you a cookie from the cat box.

[@LogainTheHumane]

What ever people say, the soldier’s judgement wasn’t as bad as the dudes choice to drive straight at a troop of soldiers with guns pointed at them. Some lessons gotta be learned the hard way

[@666Kaca]

An even better choice was to not illegally invade a sovereign nation which would prevent any of the things shown

[@jameshunt9208]

​@@666Kaca "Illegally invade" What would be a legal invasion then?

[@LogainTheHumane]

@@666Kaca But oil and liberty

[@666Kaca]

@@jameshunt9208 ww2 invasion of germany by russians and western allies.

[@resileaf9501]

As has been mentionned in other comment sections, military checkpoints before the US showed up were extremely common in Iraq and driving away from them was a good way to make you look like you were running away from the army and get you shot.

[@republic0_032]

Bro asked the guy that lit up a car "you okay?" like anybody was shooting back 😂

[@LocalDiscordCatgirl]

Psychological. guy just killed an apparent civilian cuz he’d been awake for 72 hours straight and made a poor judgement call in line with orders.

[@republic0_032]

@@LocalDiscordCatgirl sure

[@kylearnold1034]

​@@LocalDiscordCatgirl and then the guy he "killed" ran away bleeding....

[@kylearnold1034]

​They guy with the smoke grenades even said "that was a WOUNDING SHOT"

[@LoganRed-fu2ks]

asking it the same as "the hell is wrong with u?"

[@MrHeuvaladao]

People before sign boards were invented:

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

Yeah, because boards and paint are so common in a warzone.

[@MrHeuvaladao]

@@Gr3nadgr3gory Sure, that's really tough logistics.

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

@MrHeuvaladao you're trying to be sarcastic but it's a fucking desert. All the wood they have is in use. It would be a COMPLETE waste of time and resources to ship it from the US. Not to mention, it looks like they set up that checkpoint thirty seconds ago.

[@exsolverez]

​@@Gr3nadgr3goryum, are you saying that WOOD is a logistical challenge...?

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

@@exsolverez do you not know what a desert is? Not a lot of trees. Why the fuck would we ship fucking lumber from the states when that space can be used for more munitions?

[@markswisher3709]

blue used to be the color of dummy bullets, grenades, missiles, rockets, and other explosives. it easy th distinguish between it and live ammo.

[@stephenandersen4625]

The things we ask our young men to do for us……

[@gavinl4388]

Do you know nothing about the wars? How do they benefit us?

[@kylearnold1034]

​@@gavinl4388 do you have fuel in your vehicle?😂

[@jameshunt9208]

​@@kylearnold1034 I wish we actually went to war for oil, our prices would be lower, and we'd have more territory. We don't though.

[@silverletter4551]

@@kylearnold1034 we have oil in the USA. Don't need to invade anyone for it and I'd rather not have it if we have to wage war. Such actions are no better than Japan invading Oceania for resources.

[@JTheTeach]

Yes the car kept coming because to turn around sometimes you gotta go forward..

[@jameshunt9208]

Cars have a reverse.

[@SSODP]

No? No? How about... No? Mayby... No? I mean- The other immidietly turned? You weren't lookin or somethin?

[@georgewhitworth9742]

Sir, there's this really cool invention called the "reverse gear." Or better yet, the "steering wheel".

[@LarryWater]

I just don't understand why the US military doesn't put up signs telling the cars to turn back.

[@killabomb3186]

@@LarryWater because not every one speaks English

[@battleshipfleet]

Sleep deprivation is so underrated. You're no longer in control by the 26ish hour, you're in the fucking twilight zone.

[@lowkeylokii4205]

This is the most " so anyway I started blasting" shit I've ever seen

[@80-HiDef]

In the movie he went about 3 days without any sleep, I’ve gone that long before and it’s pretty much impossible to make a coherent decision

[@Kareszkoma]

Context more so irl. Soldiers invade another part of the world. Occupy a city, close it down. The people living there don't speak their language, don't know them, they are invaders for them. The soldiers closed down the main route which they would have to use, they are armed, it's unknown what they want. That blue smoke makes everything clear. That road is closed down and there is no passing it. It's not a border check or anything. This is why it's important. US soldiers, EU, or other soldiers, doesn't matter, are all invaders in these parts of the worlds, with whatever reasons they are there. So it does help.

[@earljohnson2676]

I’ve done check points in Iraq and we weren’t as disciplined like these dudes . . Truck didn’t stop and 30- 18 yr old kids just dumped everything they had . The worst was in Baghdad the traffic would be backed up for miles and they get out and start approaching us yelling . I remember this sgt said they don’t understand English but they understand force I’ve kicked dudes in the chest pulled my side arm all types of shit it sucked

[@Lotek117]

Sounds like you're bragging about it... I'm sure it sucked.

[@ericbroussard7402]

@@Lotek117 It sucks because you're dealing with civilians who don't speak your language and ignore hand signals and rifles being pointed at them as if they are retarded or something. And you never know if they really are just retarded civilians or if they're wearing an S-vest and just playing stupid so they can get close. Either way you can't just outright shoot civilians for simply not following orders until they whip out a weapon or set off a bomb to prove they are in fact - NOT civilians. It sucks.

[@pariah_Ftw]

Even though it was a cluster over there, we embraced the suck and did what we had to do...SEMPER FI BROTHER!!

[@oscarlove4394]

@@Lotek117 doesn't sound like bragging to me, sounds more like you wish you where there.

[@secretname2670]

​@@Lotek117please meet your family more often and learn to be a morally sound human being

[@alexandermcgovern1471]

The problem of lack of sleep. You hallucinate, feel and hear things that aren’t real. You become unable to distinguish between close and far away, you also have Diminished reason and judgement. Impairing one’s mind and body. If anything his brain swore it was a car barreling towards them.

[@gasparkalashnikov8870]

Well yes, it gotta keep coming to turn, it ain't a damn tank

[@iain-duncan]

Such a good scene. Shows how stressful conducting war with civilians in the area must be

[@jameshunt9208]

Problem is it's only stressful for troops like ours that give a damn. For most of our enemies, they don't care at all.

[@D3VASTATl0N]

the smoke WAS the warning.

[@mitchellcastillo2858]

He came home and became a cop

[@wildcat8598]

I always wondered how people could fuck up things that seem fairly simple. Add fear of death into that element and things aren’t so simple anymore. What the ROE when you’re in a place where people are trying to kill you and they look no different from the ones who are glad you’re there? I mean I know officially but what about in your mind? Maybe you have a bad feeling about this one? Anything. Would be one hell of a tough job deciding in a matter of seconds if you should take a life or wait another second or two and possibly be the life taken that day.

[@jameshunt9208]

​@HungNguyen-vg1zq Indeed

[@mikeayres6693]

They knew the warning and continued approaching. They always test you until they find out.

[@fluffyfury1616]

And this is how ptsd is made.

[@lvBLAI]

Driving without sleep - nonononono Being a soldier with gun without sleep - absolutely, why not, its just a gun lol

[@spencernielson8304]

Trigger discipline on have not slept in 48 hours ♾️

[@markopetrik]

Honestly I can't tell the difference between these guys, they look identical

[@BinALA]

Generation Kill for anyone wondering

[@fendtrian1621]

I like how the Car already got holes in it before it gets shot lol

[@heinyhxc]

fuck we should not have been there, what a terrible thing for everyone

[@gavinl4388]

Bush, Clinton, and others responsible will never have one repercussion.

[@DavidVandemark]

They sold us out to oil tycoons over a lie and after 20 years left a whole region in turmoil…. with billions of dollars worth of weapons and equipment.

[@chiracultrainstinct3d629]

Your country is just a warmonger country full of war criminals.

[@Caragoner]

​@@gavinl4388who does in politics anymore?

[@TheCoolProfessor]

Am I the only one who noticed the bullet holes in the windshield before he started firing?

[@walkerjobe6964]

What are you doing in an foreign country?

[@TeamCloud.]

Shooting a movie?

[@JaranBraco]

he placed those rounds fine

[@chimmook410]

Drives a vehicle -> Sees multiple armed men with weapons trained -> Also sees a smoke pop -> Decides to proceed and drive through (?)... I don't think that marine is to blame.

[@icecoldpolitics8890]

Some people when faced with stuff they don’t understand shut down and freeze up could totally happen that a civilian accidentally kept driving for an extra second or two. It’s why you have multiple distance checks and why they were supposed to fire smoke then warning shots at the ground then fire on the vehicle.

[@justanothergopnik1853]

It looked like he was trying to stop, but considering they hadn't slept for days at that point and the reports of SVBIEDs put them on edge, sadly it made him fire before the dumb civie could turn around.

[@appocalypsechild]

Man it's almost like civillians in a country you invaded who dont speak your language and have a different cutkture dont understand the rules of engagement of a foreign military. Honestly hate these people who assume everyone should immediately know how to deal with an armed checkpoint of a military from halfway around the world.

[@appocalypsechild]

​@@justanothergopnik1853"Dumb civie" what the fuck is wrong with you. The soldier is at fault he didnt even fire a warning. Why the fuck yiu bashing the people who are purely innocent?

[@andezong9565]

@@appocalypsechildlogic dictates that if there’s armed troops on the road and they’ve already fired a smoke grenade at me, I probably shouldn’t keep going

[@Kiwi_Lone_Wolf]

a wounding shot is a warning shot

[@erictorres6988]

Paterson fire a warning shot Sir, this is an m32 grenade launcher Ah, potato potato just fire it

[@GamingWithLevi2015]

"car kept comin" is crazy

[@bill-or-somthingbill4390]

War never changes

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

War, war always changes. That's the difference between a Metal Gear player and a Gears of War player lol

[@arbiter11171]

@@A_Black_Sheep94war never changes comes from Fallout. Unless I missed something in Gears?

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@arbiter11171 No I'm just misremembering I guess. Oops

[@obviouspseudonym9345]

​@@A_Black_Sheep94 "War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. War, and its consumption of life, has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID tagged soldiers carry ID tagged weapons, use ID tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control, information control, emotion control, battlefield control. Everything is monitored and kept under control. War has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control, all in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction, and he who controls the battlefield, controls history. War has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, war... becomes routine."

[@Palehorse23]

I miss this series i wish they had more seasons. Seems all the good ones get cut short.

[@LDSJ005]

hard call to make, car accelerates, do you take the chance or the shot?

[@ciamciaramcia99]

Rewatch the scene. There's less than one second between the smoke grenade and the shooting, and in that fraction off time you can clearly see the driver immediately slowing down and then veering to his left as if he was trying to make a u turn.

[@pooppoop9112]

​@ciamciaramcia99 being fair the soldier was awake for 72 hours before that

[@ncrranger8449]

@@ciamciaramcia99to eb fair Walt wasn't think straight eh hadn't slept in 48 hours and his adrenaline was getting shot through the roof that's not a good combo for thinking at all

[@kiro_luv8424]

​@@ncrranger8449if you can't handle it, don't do it ffs, whose problem is it that they had this little soldiers that they had to stay up for that long?

[@ncrranger8449]

Or “ not do it “ you think that was a option well guess what its not they had orders to go do it they had to they couldn't just say no

[@Lpj4]

“The Car kept coming” lol. Agreed

[@maxsalazar4948]

Yep, winning the hearts and minds.

[@InternetMexicanOfficial]

In the book this whole situation is even more fucked up. In the show the Iraqi dies from the wound. In the book the Iraqi is lobotomized by the bullet, and survives for a while in a vegetative state. The company is then ordered to move out and drives by the man as he sits in his car struggling to breathe as he basically dies slowly. Walt is in the window of his Humvee closest to the man as they drive by him. The Humvee drives close enough that they can here his labored breathing.

[@Gaito_03]

"Car kept coming" It's a f*cking road

[@TeamCloud.]

Not exactly correct since they were meant to turn around, though I still had to laugh when I read this lol

[@Marinus_Calamari]

@@TeamCloud. Maybe put up a sign that says "Turn around" then? Preferably in the local language. Not everyone knows how to read smoke-grenade.....

[@TeamCloud.]

@@Marinus_Calamari hey man, I didn’t mean any offense to him, it’s a real funny comment.

[@ScoopDogg]

i mean he's not wrong "car kept coming"

[@jessa1895]

Our military doesn’t fire warning shots. The car kept coming after they shot the smoke.

[@spvillano]

We did, around 100 meters out. The exception is if they decided to accelerate, then it was all bets were off and they're getting lit up.

[@ahmadruzaini4646]

"i accidentally killed people because of my lack of sleep"..

[@RockPile_]

“And in 10 years we will make movies about how killing your civilians made our soldiers feel bad”

[@gavinl4388]

Our soldiers are task with such evil, they kill themselves way more than the “enemy”

[@Arbidarb]

God forbid a country depict a war from their own perspective...

[@RockPile_]

@@Arbidarb it’s pro-imperialism propaganda. “Oh boohoo our soldiers have le peetee essdee oh nooo they murdered entire families sure… but now dey feew bad in their feewings!!” Like cmon This is like making a Holocaust movie about how hard working the guards are.

[@inquisitionagent9052]

You got a point. Im supposed to feel bad for these guys? Pretty sure Abu the civilian over there with a bullet in his chest is having a much worse day than than Billy the war criminal who "feels bad" about his war crimes.

[@gavinl4388]

@@RockPile_ don’t be like them. We should pity them the way that Frodo pities Gollum. They are victims too. I’m talking about the soldiers. They were poor kids who were lied to their entire lives, fed a false history, tricked into risking their lives to commit atrocities or aid and abet them. In America our anti-war movement would be unrecognizable without all of our veterans who learned the truth, and then spent the rest of their lives opposing the wars.

[@A_Machine]

The squad automatic Gunner had not slept for days at that point

[@VanTheMan1099]

I never understood how people could see smoke and warning shots fired at them and not think to turn around.

[@biggiouschinnus7489]

Firstly, you've got to understand that Iraqi civilians were much more used to the sight of soldiers and tanks on the street, and were also used to being able to drive past them without being shot at. Secondly, PANIC. Stress and adrenaline, contrary to what movies claim, does not make you a rational, lightning-fast expert driver. 90% of the time, it turns you into a gibbering, clumsy idiot. That's why soldiers TRAIN - it is all about suppressing the fight-or-flight response, and replacing it with engrained muscle memory, so that everything becomes automatic.

[@VanTheMan1099]

@@biggiouschinnus7489 ok sure but when you see a big ass convoy that pops smoke or fires at you maybe fucking brake not hit the gas. I was a 0311 and yea training helps but id argue the normal human response to seeing a threat like that is to stop not fucking hit the gas towards the people trying to kill you.

[@biggiouschinnus7489]

@@VanTheMan1099 Scared people do stupid things, that's all I can say. It's sad, and I don't blame you guys for it - you were just where you were ordered to be, and didn't have anything like the support - police, interpreters, local knowledge, detailed intelligence - you should have had. Likewise, I don't blame the Iraqi civilians either - they never asked for any of this, and were just trying to go about their daily lives. The blame lies with the brass and politicians, who should have realised that this shit was going to happen, and planned for it.

[@dragonstormdipro1013]

​@@VanTheMan1099 He didn’t fire any warning shots. That's the whole point of the scene.

[@VanTheMan1099]

@@dragonstormdipro1013 yes in this scene no warning shots are fired. I’m talking about the broader context. This type of shit routinely happens. Where the Iraqis will try to run a checkpoint or won’t respond to any warnings. It just baffles me. And yea we can have the moral debate of occupation and whatnot. But when someone has a fiftycal pointed at you basic human logic isn’t to try and run through it.

[@Yeah-its-me]

I warned him by not killing him.

[@MrNobody0369]

That was a warning shot... they were able to run away.

[@neilinhp]

I've gone up to 7 days with zero sleep. After 7 days I make sure I'm heading home and go straight to bed. 8 hours later I'm feeling brand new again. Call me twinkle toes when I'm up!

[@The-Khatalyst]

I mean, if the first shot goes through someone's face, that's a good warning to everyone else in the group.

[@whitefalcon630]

Nothing more devastating than a scared soldier with a gun.

[@piratecat990]

Car keeps coming...hmmm maybe not approach an armed barricade. 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Zenxolu]

You'd be amazed how ass backwards countries are

[@i_dodge_trees]

Meanwhile, Captain America is probably upper decking some Iraqi family’s toilet. “Denying the enemy”

[@agwrangler]

ROB ZOMBIE!!!

[@Headhunterzify]

Generation Kill is favorite because it depicts the reality of war. I went to serve at my country’s national service, which requires selected 18 year olds to raise patriotism and learn basic combat. We were sleep deprived too and boy it sucked! Imagine the real army training.

[@gary9346]

It worries me that people are more concerned about the fact that this man didn't get enough sleep and not that he likely just created a new couple of insurgents.

[@misterpotato427]

@@gary9346 And a couple of orphans... Oh sorry I meant terrorists

[@shoeofobama6091]

The issue is that he murdered a man

[@quantum5661]

and that happened because why? because he didnt get enough sleep and got twitchy.

[@TheRealCacaHead]

The car indeed kept coming

[@Willy_the_gunslingin_studentOD]

c'monnn the car kept moving, f*ck em

[@satanicpizza6666]

wtf is wrong with you?

[@erikfaru9780]

War crimes gonna war crime.