YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS ABOUT THE CHEMEX AND MOKA POT: Feat. Noa Berger

[@wlmontag]

Inviting guest experts is a great idea. She was awesome. Hope you do this more often. This video was very interesting and informative.

[@LanceHedrick]

Thank you! If the people love it, more shall there be!

[@ffar666]

Seeing expert guests is awesome! I'd love to see more of the humanities side of coffee studies: history, sociology, anthropology. Economics, logistics, botany... would all be great topics to see here as well.

[@BergerNoa]

Thank you!!! 🙏

[@LanceHedrick]

definitely! I am hoping for a video with Dr. Jonathan Morris in the future, and will expand from there!

[@GarrettWease]

Couldn’t agree more. This is fascinating stuff.

[@efafe4972]

some questions I have are what were early pour-over recipes like and how was coffee processed/roasted? was the idea of "specialty" coffee a thing? what varietals were popular? would love to see someone recreate a vintage cup. fascinating video fs

[@Poluanen]

As an italian, I loved to see a different perspective about our coffee culture than the one we made out and talk about. It was illuminating to learn about the connection between fascism and italian coffee culture (roasted chicory coffee actually blew my mind). I can feel that something is changing now with the specialty coffee wave, and I cannot be more than happy about it, as a coffee lover! Thanks for the content to both of you, love from Italy ❤

[@DGPHolyHandgrenade]

I explicitly bought a moka pot for camping. Combined with a hand grinder, it makes for an excellent coffee by the campfire on cold mornings. And the way it functions, doesnt matter if I'm using a proper stove or just set it over the fire, it comes out great either way.

[@TylerH266]

I’ll say this Lance. Your channel has really sparked a love for coffee within me. I have gone from clueless to advanced over the last year. Your channel will see over a million subscribers in the near future.

[@rodneyn.gonzalez-rivera5093]

I watch a lot of coffee content and I think there is a need for this types of casual informative videos. Really enjoyed the story behind each of these devices! Well done Lance and Noa.

[@coreycannon4511]

I love my Moka Pot. Learning how to use my 6-cup Bialetti Moka Express (received for Christmas 18 months ago) is what got me into specialty coffee. It was my daily driver until replaced by my Aeropress about 6 months later, but still sees use a couple of times a week. Primarily for weekend “moka lattés” and “moka cappuccinos.”

[@noahmn4985]

Moka pot coffee sucks but with milk its not that bad

[@coreycannon4511]

@@noahmn4985 then you ain’t doin’ it right. ‘Course, my two main uses for my Moka are diluting 50/50 with water to make a “Moka Americano” or espresso-esque milk drinks : lattes/cappuccinos.

[@jpjay1584]

0:51 a hand model!! I love the attention to details in the videos.

[@durand101]

Loved this video! Definitely agree with Noa about the importance of understanding the culture and meaning behind tools.

[@fernandoherranz4095]

Noa's point about meaning with these objects is very on point! The Moka pot is a ubiquitous item in kitchens throughout Latin America and forms part of the culture around coffee drinking, family, and community there. It's an object that appeals to most families there because strong "espresso" coffee is a part of the every day experience. Although I am less familiar with the Chemex, it strikes me as more of an elegant art piece for brewing drip coffee that perhaps does not have the same cultural connection or mass appeal like the Moka Pot. Great video!

[@nadiavargas8727]

The Brikka moka pot is my daily driver and it has made me very happy despite not having enough counter space for an espresso setup, I'm glad to see some love for moka pots!

[@ozespresso]

Noa is brilliant, I have been following her for a while now, thank you for having her on the channel :)

[@contemporaryartist6542]

Brilliant. More from this duet. Thank you!

[@LanceHedrick]

we may or may not have another video planned already on one of her strengths she mentioned in this video...

[@Potts_]

Love a bit of history with my morning coffee! Noa's a phenomenal presenter, love seeing guest experts on the channel. Makes me want to finally pick up a moka pot...

[@BergerNoa]

Thank you so much 😍

[@LanceHedrick]

pick on up! I mean, your handle is Potts, so a Moka Pott is in your future lol

[@Marwoowhh]

fantastic video - thanks so much both of you

[@nathanking6242]

Noa was awesome. I’d love more videos like this.

[@minnzoo3]

I have and use both Mocha pot and Chemex weekly. Also a gaggia classic. I like drinking different types of coffee depending on my mood.

[@gonzalovidal3314]

I just gotta love how the Moka just became a fundamental part of every home, at least here in latam is pretty normal to have one in the kitchen~ I myself have a few of those Bialetti marvelous devices in my collection 🙈

[@LanceHedrick]

it really is! So many have been sold over the decades. Really cool piece to connect the world.

[@johncoleman1930]

I really enjoy these videos where you bring in a guest and they talk about various aspects of the industry or about coffee would definitely love more of these! I rarely see videos discussing the social aspects of coffee and would love more of these!

[@ggold3357]

Awesome episode. My Moka-pots (3 diff sizes) are not decoration though. At least one of them (3 cup mostly) is used almost everyday. Keep up the great content man!

[@LanceHedrick]

that's awesome! put em to good use!

[@masheldon]

Very interesting and a different take from what we normally see! I appreciate it! I first met the Chemex in the 1980s when I was an undergraduate. It was pretty common among the "alternative" student culture of the time, perhaps because it was low cost, and, with a cloth filter, felt more environmentally friendly. I was not a coffee drinker at that time, but did admire the design and the "lab equipment" look. In any case, I don't think it disappeared entirely but just went underground while mainstream coffee culture was buying up Mr. Coffee's.

[@ajc5869]

Superb comparison! There’s a scholarly paper in here somewhere!

[@kphoenix128]

This was SUCH an excellent video! More experts, more coffee history, more of all of it! Thanks for the great video, Lance & Noa!!

[@Ang_R17]

Man I am really liking these new videos. A touch of history for proper education

[@6minus3minus2]

From someone who very recently finished their Ph.D, you did amazing Noa!

[@BergerNoa]

Thank you so much 😍and congrats!!!

[@LanceHedrick]

she is fantastic!

[@TriStarFamily]

Looking forward to this. Had a Moka pot for a while and kept getting burt, bitter coffee (until someone ran it through the dishwasher).

[@adrianbrewer1708]

That was very interesting Lance. Thanks to you both.

[@lincomatic]

love this, Lance! please do more of this type of video on the cultural background of . we have enough info on the geek aspects of coffee.

[@arianyazdannik968]

Awesome video lance

[@richardosborne8570]

Delightful guest. Two charismatic people talking about coffee. I'm happy

[@ShayanGivehchian]

Its always fascinating to learn about the evolution of daily items and how they came to be

[@angelosegoniDetectivedelcaffe]

Great story guys i knew also that Bialetti was an expert of allumiun he used to work in alluminium factory in France thats was also the reason why he used the allumiun!!!also they had a strong marketing thanks to his son when he inventend the logo at the time as you know in italy espresso was complitely different that what we see today has a black cup with a fake crema made out of sugar and coffee drops !!!! thank u so much guys

[@LanceHedrick]

that's right! The bialetti factory was already heavily using aluminum, so it was a natural selection. thanks for watching!

[@angelosegoniDetectivedelcaffe]

@@LanceHedrick thank to u man !!!!!!!

[@uffa00001]

Also, not many know that it's very easy to distinguish an original Bialetti from a "copy". The Original Moka always has 8 sides, whereas the copies cannot have 8 sides (that's patented or something of the kind, it's a protected industrial design) so they typically have 10.

[@GarrettWease]

This is so cool. I would welcome more guest videos, both producers like Pepe and historical/sociological content like what Noa gave here!!!

[@gregorio5543]

Awesome video. What I'm surprised wasn't mentioned is the moka is used in more than just in Italy. They are super popular in France, Spain, and most of South America. It's probably the best selling coffee "machine" ever. Have a sweet spot for it but even in Italy they use espresso machines now in the home

[@LanceHedrick]

I believe I did say that! If it wasn't in the video, which I believe it was, then apologies Perhaps edited out was my saying that following ww2 when 3-4million Italians left the country, they ended up all over the world with moka in hand ha! This explains the beginnings of the moka in South America.

[@lizcademy4809]

I like both coffee and history, so this was a perfect video. I started using a Chemex in the early 1990s ... with pre-ground supermarket coffee. It made an excellent cup, however, after several years of breaking one every year (in the sink, while washing it) I switched to a Melitta cone, and I'm still using that same cone today. I might get a Chemex again. I have a variant on a moka pot, much more of an art object. But I don't care for that style of coffee, so it remains an art object only.

[@LanceHedrick]

very valid to keep one as art, for sure. And the breaking chemex is surely an annoyance, but they are definitely built a bit more robustly today than the early 90s! give it another shot!

[@lizcademy4809]

@@LanceHedrick My moka pot is a very, very different design, no upper section, just a pour spout, with gold color art deco detailing. It's definitely an art object. Chemex, Clever dripper, vacuum siphon, Cafelta Robot ... so many brewers, so little time!

[@timwatkins6559]

What a great topic for a video. Thanks lance!

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you for watching and commenting!

[@SuperSecretJohn]

Love these videos on history. Noa makes it so easy to understand.

[@LanceHedrick]

definitely! She is a born educator!

[@mjxx]

Really cool video, thanks! I feel like Mokapot and Chemex are the gateway to specialty coffee for a lot of people and it’s awesome to learn more about them. ✌️

[@lastfour]

It was great. I will love to see more like this: history, great guests, and Coffee :) (Also I will love to see more vids with Noa, she's brilliant!)

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you! I'll do my best as I notice people are coming into town ha! Cheers

[@n6rcan]

Cool to know the history and status of 2 brewers. Now with the use of scale and thermometers, and aeropress filters, I think Mokas will have a new place in Third wave

[@braxtonjens7839]

So cool. Love the history of these two iconic brewers. I love finding vintage Chemexes at thrift shops. Also, the chemex is a great brewer, even for specialty coffee.

[@LanceHedrick]

vintage ones are super cool! and I have an issue with the filters (3 and 1), the chute, and most of all, the material, which makes thermal stability impossible. but they can make good coffee! just not super predictable. And lots of paper waste for me since I don't brew more than 15g doses

[@Johnnybananass-_]

came for the coffee video and got a free ticket to the gunshow thrown in !

[@Joao_tb]

This was a super interesting video! So cool to know more about history, culture and facts from those two brewers and it's relation to the world evolution. Awesome work! After Pepe and now Noa, I think you should keep "experts episodes" coming. Cheers

[@davidrindt3131]

Lance, as always, excellent content. You never fail to inform and impress. This is why I am very patiently waiting on your Mahlkonig EK-43 full review. Keep up with the great insightful work

[@ondrejmitas3325]

Loved it! Thanks!

[@francis-gagnon]

Wow ! This was such an interesting video. Thanks !

[@Andublack]

I love to invest time in this channel because I always learn something new!

[@joelcleare]

Just bought my 3rd Moka pot. Started with a 6 cup. Now we have a 3 cup and a 12 cup moka pot. We make it Italian style then add Cuban style sugar. Add steamed milk 50/50 for a Coridito and wow.

[@alexcouture5983]

Love this type of content. Great work Lance!

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you, Alex! Really appreciate it!

[@cruachan1191]

This was very interesting from a cultural point of view. It's kind of surprising to me that the Chemex is (IME anyway) pretty rare in the UK given the James Bond endorsement, in general the French Press (Generally known here as a Cafetiere which has become a genericised trademark like Hoover) is probably the most common non-specialty manual way of making coffee and with a different taste and texture again to the stronger Moka pot and the cleaner taste of the Chemex with it's heavy filter paper.

[@sunfloweralkh]

I remember being really excited when I saw the Chemex on Friends😂

[@milanese001]

I really love both of them. It's true that the moka pot has been already for a long time in the spotlight but now with the coffee I'm rediscovering it. You can make delicious coffee and coffee based drinks

[@lyesallouche9010]

Love the intro 💯

[@Josephus95]

Oh no am I finally gonna have to buy a moka pot? guess it's time lol

[@ardeleanalex6918]

It is

[@LanceHedrick]

for history, and for the future.

[@mpap89]

I would also make the argument that the popularity of the chemex is also tied to the sci-fi futuristic hopes and dreams in post WWII America in competition with the USSR. The US was trying to display the technological innovations that they had that made life better then the soviets and this piece of almost chemistry equipment was a prime example of how beautiful and functional life in the US was.

[@billsilcott9692]

I use them interchangeably on a daily basis. I'll even throw the French press into the mix on occasion. Not much "versus" going on in this household. It simply comes down to which one's clean at the moment.

[@Ma_Ba]

Trivia: Rewatching The Mary Tyler Moore Show, set in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA circa early 1970's. She serves Rhoda and Phyllis from Chemex.

[@photina78]

Achille Gaggia invented his 9 bar espresso machine in 1947, began production in 1948, and was installing it in the top bars by 1949.

[@LanceHedrick]

Correct. That's a different machine. I'm talking.home espresso..the Gilda was 1952 distribution. I've written an article on it.

[@photina78]

@@LanceHedrick Very interesting machine! Thank you. ☕

[@MrYevie]

You look so young, I love the saved look man! You lost 10 years!

[@CarlosVargas-js8qz]

Really cool video and great intro. Super interesting stuff. Love all about history. Keep it up!

[@oli.bradshaw]

Remember when Lance Hedrick was in the Justice League and they had to remove his moustache with CGI…

[@pseudopacman]

You're killing it, Lance!

[@LanceHedrick]

appreciate it, friend! Thanks for watching

[@AlexanderLabial]

Wow amazing to hear the history of the brewers, something I might take a bit for granted 😁

[@ddan1eL]

Interesting idea at 14:29, I thought (also unfounded) that the comeback of the chemex and it's use in the specialty coffee world was because it was more "operator-dependent" and so the results can vary between baristas and their recipes.

[@RobertPHorwitz]

This kind of stuff is great - thanks, Lance!

[@LanceHedrick]

appreciate you! Thank you, Robert!

[@88sstraight]

Thanks Lance and Noa - should’ve been a Moka Express though eh?

[@TheBakersDozenCats]

Loved this video. Thank you!!!

[@Etherovamonas]

Great video!

[@danielbrazell]

I have a fancy Keurig pod, drip combo machine, but ever since I got my Mocha pot, I've hardly touch that at all, lol

[@coreycannon4511]

Ditto! My Moka got me into specialty coffee. If it wasn’t for the wife and kids, the Keurig would be gathering dust.

[@ozpain1]

Looking good brother! 😎👌🏼

[@ShayanGivehchian]

I thought he was gonna bring Mustache Lance in as the expert

[@tom9836]

You get an instant "like" from me for the extra close shave! 🎉

[@javaman4584]

There's a Chemex in "Interstellar", too.

[@bharatagarwal33]

Another reason I think why Chemex became more popular with the Third Wave is because of the increasing popularity of pour over brewing

[@briancarvalho9770]

All quirks aside I love my chemex and have been using it daily for several years! BUT... I've been thinking of upgrading, streamlining, and making my routine more consistent, and repeatable. My problem is that I brew for myself and my wife each morning and we each drink about 15-18 oz of coffee. My 10 cup chemex allows for this and the occasional hosting of a few more people. Everything seems geared toward brewing individual cups. I love the idea of something like a V60 + carafe but can't find anything that is simple, elegant, high quality, and allows for over 65 grams of coffee. Not to mention water required to preheat, bloom, brew, etc. since finding a quality kettle close to 1.5 liters is challenging. I'm considering alternatives that are simple, clean (no plastics), and fun. A chemex-like ritual with the ability to brew up to 10 cups! Thoughts?

[@justinbouchard]

I'm like 4 minutes in. Can you have her back to do a coffee and capitalism vid?

[@wisecoconut5]

Nooooo..I have 2 moka pots and I use them!! The 3 cup is for me, the 6 cup for guests. They live on my boat where I live 6 months a year. I have an espresso machine at the house. And no, I am not wealthy. I live in a modest house (1,000 sq ft) to afford my modest boat. Livin the dream on a budget. It is also worth noting that in the 80s melita pour over became popular thing. The melita was actually a feature on Murder She Wrote.

[@LanceHedrick]

that's the way to do it! Goals. I could learn a thing or two from you on budgeting ha!

[@wisecoconut5]

​​@@LanceHedrickHint: your espresso machine and grinder collection is about the same cost as my boat. Hint #2: Retire! 😂

[@atavax311]

The moka pot does remind me a bit of the 1950s american cars with the fins and the rocket ship like design.

[@caffeinatedflights]

I love how informative your videos are, but I think I would benefit from a visual of the coffee produced from each device at the end of the video. This would potentially help summarize the differences in coffee production from each. I think Noa being able to point out subtle nuances of each coffee, like the oils present from the Moka pot vs. the lack thereof from the Chemex, etc. Anyway, great video!

[@LanceHedrick]

that's a good critique! I actually meant to do that and completely forgot. Filming in my garage in the summer is an absolute sweat shop. Right when we ended, I zipped to the AC haha! thanks for the feedback. noted!!!

[@cameronbatko]

Huh, learned something new. Thought the Chemex was a 2010ish creation. No clue it existed during WW2

[@47pricey]

Dr Hendrick will see you now

[@ArronMcKoy]

This is such an excellent vid. Absolutely love the link with sociology & design. The link with industry and supply of materials is really interesting too. Definitely do more. In New Zealand we were right into the Moka pot and French Press (we call it a Plunger!) from early 90s, but almost no sign of the Chemex. Everyone had a Moka for camping & you could buy pre-ground coffee for Moka & FP in supermarkets (Blue Mountain was the creme de la creme). It wasn't too long before everyone had a FP, and the arguments over the best method! Was it similar in North America or was it more a design symbol but not used?

[@charlesyateschalfant]

The Moka pot, or Cafeteria as it's called in Italy, still is capable of making the best black coffee.

[@atavax311]

at least in the US, i feel like the biggest thing holding people back from trying something like the moka pot is their lack of a haflway decent grinder and American's dependence on pre ground coffee.

[@What_If_We_Tried]

I think it depends on what part of the US a person was raised in, or whether or not someone from smaller cities, or towns visited larger culturally diverse cities - prior to the internet obviously - or whether or not you traveled outside of North America. For example, if raised in NYC, Miami, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, SFO, Los Angeles, or San Diego, these cities are culturally diverse with populations of people for whom moka pots in the home were common.

[@TylerWilhelm-tj8tw]

I feel like another reason that mokapot is so much more ubiquitous than chemex also has a lot to do with price point

[@alexanderhaven3289]

PhD in sociology is an excellent qualification for a barista ;-)

[@mrtnmlchr]

Super interesting Video! A loved the in depth insights. This feels actually more like a (video)podcast format. And I would love to see and hear more of this! Maybe as constructive critique. Standing behind a counter an talking doesn't feel like "coffee talk", more like a 90s TV Morning Show. I would love to see a more comfortable format (sitting!) and talking into mics. Also a little tip coming from a little expertise from radio: try not to interrupt the talk of your guest with "mmh, yes, okay, yep" all the time. it's a habit that interrupts the listening. do this, when you feel that your guest has finished. And as always, I love your videos. this is just my two cents.

[@zziiqqiiaann6545]

My coffee setup is in my room, so i use my chemex as a water dump after i rinse my filter:)

[@ardeleanalex6918]

These kind of videos are awesome!

[@LanceHedrick]

tjhank you! I love doing them so there will be more! Thanks for the support

[@WillardTurner]

Lance you slay me. Never stop.

[@LanceHedrick]

ha! Thanks for watching, friend!

[@CaveyMoth]

My favorite movie appearance of the Moka Pot was in Edge of Tomorrow, featuring Tom Cruise making coffee with one.

[@LanceHedrick]

Yes! I also like Greta Gerwig making "the best espresso" in to Rome with love haha Now she's directing barbie lol

[@michaeloporto5202]

The mane is looking luxurious

[@LanceHedrick]

ha thank you! The hair care routine in shoot days is on point. lol

[@zenadventurer69]

You called it. As far as brewers go, the Chemex is a perfect flower pot, utensils holder, carafe for other brewers or place to rest and drain the brew basket from your batch brewer when you’re done brewing.

[@happy-go-lucky-7]

At first i thought this was an old video, as you didn't have the moustache, but then looking at the tattoos i could tell it must be within the last few months

[@pimacanyon6208]

moka pots are now available made from stainless steel which I would prefer over aluminum because coffee being an acidic beverage can leach aluminum into the coffee. Probably not good to ingest aluminum on a daily basis.

[@Douglaskyle9191]

Very cool lesson

[@LanceHedrick]

thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!!

[@mgsboedmisodpc2]

"difficult to have thermal properties when using borosilicate glass" lance you must elaborate

[@uffa00001]

Curiously, it is now becoming harder and harder to find stainless steel moka pots. In the '80s or so, Lavazza begun producing a SS moka pot (Carmencita) and it launched a new "wave", but Bialetti always remained faithful to aluminium. Now Bialetti produces bi-metallic moka pots, and Lavazza makes the Carmencita in aluminium instead of SS. Times change. Aluminium cannot be put in the dishwasher. Stainless Steel cannot be worked in a way that it is easy to clean (in my old Carmencita there is a groove at the base of the collecting vase, and it's not so easy to clean the central "tunnel") but it can be cleaned in the dishwasher. Overall I prefer SS.

[@thebitterfig9903]

Might have to dig my parent's old Chemex out from the back of the cupboard. :D The other piece of history that'd be interesting to learn about is how the moka pot became popular in so many Latinx households.

[@LanceHedrick]

I sorta mentioned it but it was due to the massive influx of Italians that left Italy following ww2. About 3-4million fled and many ended up in South America along the west coast.

[@xthebumpx]

Please don't use Latinx; be sensitive to the overwhelming majority that prefer Latino/Latina/Hispanic. Imposing Latinx on them is linguistic imperialism.

[@thebitterfig9903]

@@LanceHedrick to that end, and maybe someone has already done it, but it'd be interesting to explore how Italian espresso culture changed and evolved specifically in Latin American countries. How the various drinks and snacks differ.