You Die Today | The Waters of Mars | Doctor Who

The Doctor informs Adelaide that she must die today. Taken from the episode "The Waters of Mars."
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[@ZoidiusPlasmaReaper]

This has to be Tennants top moment. Through his acting you can see just how weary and tired the Doctor is. How tired he is of all the things he can't save. Tired of losing people. Tired of himself. You can see it in his eyes, the pain and grief that he goes through over and over. And he's sick of it. David Tennant not only nails this scene perfectly but I don't think anyone else could pull off this scene better other than himself. It's reasons like this he'll always be my favorite Doctor.

[@ApolloXL5]

Capaldi could have pulled this scene off too. He and Tennant are my two fav Doctors.

[@TooTsaka]

Imagine Matt Smith trying to play that off, lol.

[@calumgallagher4518]

TooTsaka Matt smith could I mean look at his speech to akhatan

[@TooTsaka]

@@calumgallagher4518 trying to be overly dramatic doesn't paint the image of tired and hopeless. Just watch both scenes again and try telling me that that speech you mentioned... is in any way comparable to this...

[@calumgallagher4518]

TooTsaka Maybe not but the feeling I get listening to both is the same the speeches are different and I don’t know why maybe different writing different directing but the *feeling I get is the same*

[@ruksarahmed1569]

“She flies out there, like she’s trying to meet you.” - The Doctor. I love that line so much. So raw, and real and powerful. ❤️

[@godessesque]

Tenants delivery sounds like he's about to cry when he says it. Which always makes me cry

[@wubbsy1]

2:18 "You die today" the tone, the sheer finality of that statement. Gives me chills every time. Bravo David, Bravo.

[@Jmcinally94]

It almost sounds like a priest giving a funeral service for some reason. Maybe it's the cadence, the matter of fact way it's delivered like something that already happened.

[@doodoo5594]

i came here to say exactly this, david’s line reads in this episode are even more incredible than usual

[@almightyk11]

@@doodoo5594 Not a threat, not a warning, just a matter of fact

[@Juliett-A]

Moments like this are why David Tennant will always be the best Doctor. Anyone can run around being daft. He genuinely conveyed the existential horror of being a 1,000 year old god who ultimately can't change anything.

[@jaimie1938]

Gotta love how Tennant's face is lit like a skull. Really striking imagery, reminds you of the Doctor's power over life and death that comes with being a time traveller.

[@seanpazdera6407]

Ah, a fellow Undertale fan.

[@ereynolds72]

@@seanpazdera6407 yikes

[@WITNESSREVENGE]

Best Tennant story hands down

[@jamesiyer4937]

This and midnight

[@jamesiyer4937]

GinjaNinja Midnight is brilliant, obviously the S2 finale was great too. Makes me cry lol

[@Mrazmatmahmood]

This is the best nu who episode, period. Closely followed by Heaven Sent.

[@Daniel-qw7mm]

This, Midnight, Heaven Sent and Blink best episodes of Nu Who for me

[@mimiHTcat]

also impossible planet/satan pit

[@boffgirl]

the dr looked so tired here, tired of everything

[@CraigMalkinlol]

hi if i subscribe to yu will you subscribe to me doctor and boffgirl?

[@CraigMalkinlol]

will you speak to me

[@Ailumer]

XDoctor Whooves Your a bit desperate

[@Bugv]

Remulia He is desperate, considering the 2nd comment was less than 180 seconds later.

[@Ailumer]

The Aussie Bloke very desperate

[@jonathankozenko]

This scene reminded me a lot of 'The Satan Pit', and I thought both were brilliant because they had moments like this. The existential, bleak and sad moments. They were both creepy, but these moments resonate, in my opinion, far more than the scarier elements.

[@EuroMIX2]

Sometimes the scariest things to face are the harsh realities of life.

[@legoroan9866]

Jonathan Kozenko just because he wears the spacesuit!? Jk

[@SStupendous]

@@legoroan9866 The hell? Lol kid nobody said that

[@Spiketrooper]

​​@@EuroMIX2 The Time Lord Victorious is *wrong.*

[@darudesandstrom1067]

I like how the doctor respects Adelaide enough to tell her the truth, knowing that she’s strong enough to handle it

[@TheFennieYap]

This was the scariest episode of Doctor Who I ever watched. Scariest by far.

[@seanlawton6835]

I know

[@tolkien6666]

What about silence in the library? I'm still traumatized by that

[@carrieullrich5059]

Vashda Nerada are terrifying. 😊

[@sephservant]

The Flood are scary, but the Time Lord Victorious is terrifying.

[@NilsMcCloud]

"Damn you." Urgh...the weight.

[@magiv4205]

"You die here too."- "No"-"What's gonna save you?"-"Captain Adelaide Brooke" Somebody help me. I think I am drowning. In my tears!!!! ¤,_____,¤

[@markvestler3630]

I forgot who captain Adelaide Brook it's is. Remind me, please

[@mephostopheles3752]

I think that’s actually the Martian water so just be csreful

[@JosephPostingStuff]

Captain Adelaide Brooke: “help me” Doctor: *helps* Captain Adelaide Brooke: *kills herself*

[@SStupendous]

@@markvestler3630 It's the middle-aged female captain.

[@louie3601]

I always preferred this era's emphasis on Drama. Not that there's no drama in the current era. It's just a personal preference.

[@VideoGameAnimationStudy]

+Louie Byford I think this was more meaningful because this was the first time NuWho got really serious.

[@Makalon102]

+Dan Root then davies left and the show turned childish

[@VideoGameAnimationStudy]

+Cryer24597 Welllllll...this was the first time we *really* saw how menacing Tennant's Doctor could be, with the whole 'Timelord Victorious' thing. Sure Ecclestone got a bit angry at the Dalek, and Tennant got a bit sad at the Master dying, but Waters of Mars I think was the pinnacle of the RTD era.

[@hyperbiscuit2284]

I view it like this. Through the series with David Tennant and Christopher Eccleston, the stories tended to focus on what emotional, physical, and mental issues the Doctor would have just by being the Doctor. The stories were much more personal to the Doctor. The Later seasons with Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi tended to focus instead on what kind of emotional, physical, and mental issues would arise for someone knowing the Doctor. Instead of focusing on how the Doctor reacts to being the Doctor, it explores how the rest of the universe would react to someone like the Doctor existing with story arcs like River and the Doctor's love story, Amy and Rory's marriage, etc.. In the later seasons, episodes are less about things happening to the Doctor, and much more about the Doctor doing things to everyone else. It's kind of cool, because with Christopher and David, we got to see, especially in this episode, just how broken the Doctor can get knowing that he can't save everyone, or that he's gone too far. And with Matt and Peter, we get to see just how broken other people can become when the Doctor interferes with their lives with scenes like Amy truly choosing Rory over the Doctor at the end of The Angels take Manhattan, or episodes like Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead with River's heart break at the sight of a Doctor who doesn't know her (yes, those were with David, but without all of season 6, those episodes are pretty much useless). It's a cool dynamic shift for the series, and I think both sides are amazing and both were absolutely worth exploring. Then again, Matt Smith is my favorite Doctor and season six is my favorite season, so I am absolutely biased. It should also be said, that I have not seen many episodes from seasons one through four recently, while I have re-watched quite a few from the later seasons. Either way, just trying to offer a little perspective because I think that the change of focus offered for many amazing episodes that really shouldn't be ignored.

[@AndrewChapman]

You had to mention Pompeii, didn't you Doctor?

[@ritvikmishra8388]

The truth is doctor caused volcanic eruption in that episode

[@Stuntmanforlyf]

Ritvik Mishra yea we know. That’s why he mentioned it

[@glitterboy2098]

@@ritvikmishra8388 what most people don't know is that there were two doctors there that day. Ten was stopping the Pyroviles.. and Seven was running around the city trying to get back to his Tardis after getting caught up in the eruption while investigating something UNIT had found in the ruins. (a story found in the Sept 2000 audiobook "The fires of Vulcan")

[@jdogzerosilverblade299]

well he turns into one of the guys he saves :/

[@jamiethomas3768]

He HAD to mention Pompeii oh yes!

[@sebastianfitzptraick7395]

It's been nearly seven years since this episode aired and Doctor Who has still never matched this level of quality. Such a pity Russel and David left, they were a great duo.

[@Lubble-]

Sebastian Fitzpatrick after Smith joined in season 5, quality of Dr who went down hill, it became fun loving and silly....

[@amfe52]

Chibnall is coming. After Broadchurch, great expectations for him as showrunner. Moffat, although NewWho's best writer, was a terrible showrunner with "Coupling" in his resume as his previous tenure. Chibnall seems like the right choice.

[@armedraptor5114]

You're absolutely right. It has matched. It even surpassed it. Agreed for the Russel and Davies duo. *cough* Apart from Davies.

[@serenaistheb.o.a.t]

I haven't even bothered with series 5-10. Saw a few episodes of the human Spongebob (Matt Smith) and decided the new Doctor Who wasn't for me. Series 11 is okayish so far.

[@eli_berdugo04]

@@serenaistheb.o.a.t Peter Capaldi (the Doctor in series 8-10) is much darker than Matt Smith's portrayal so if that's what tipped you off I suggest you give him a try

[@SamYoumansS6R16Y]

"Anything I do...just makes it happen." - I tear up every time!

[@shyaminator]

This episode is so underrated, I don't know why! It's probably tied for my favorite new who episode, tied with the day of the doctor. Probably the scariest monsters in the entire history of the show were on this episode!

[@Mowingthefrontlawn]

I've seen nothing but praise for this episode. Most people scored it 10/10 on the online polls I've seen.

[@shyaminator]

i should have rephrased that. i meant to say that people don't really talk about it too much because it wasn't part of any of the seasons, but you're absolutely right!

[@KarasuNoGoh]

I liked it but the ending was a bit disapointing to say the least.

[@Mowingthefrontlawn]

***** I think the surprising ending is what made it so memorable and highly regarded by fans. Guess it didn't work for everyone, though.

[@phenom568]

Its one of my favorite episodes. Top 10 easily, maybe top 5

[@realafan888]

I love the delivery at 1:04. You can just feel the pain of the Doctor as he thinks of the oceans of bloods he's created with the actions he's taken. The lives he ruined as he "saved the day" from the greater threats.

[@christopherjohnston3569]

One of the best scenes in Doctor Who's history.

[@VONisHope]

***** just stfu its his opinion and he said ONE of the best not the best -.- srsly just stfu.

[@Liberanimus]

For me David Tenant is the best Doctor.

[@mrivs1154]

For me the best Doctor is The Doctor

[@tmehtyrannosaurus]

IvsChrisGaming THIS ^ THIS ALL DAY

[@DarthRushy]

***** Mine's the Ninth. But 10 is rly good.

[@Freeman10001]

Nine, eleven, but we all know that the perfect punctuation is 10!

[@skateycoyle7663]

Same david I amqzing hes my uncle my dads brother

[@kurogane9167]

"What's gonna save you? Captain Adelaid Brook". Thatt one sentence from him shows just how heartbroken he is. It shows just how tragic and unfair the whole situation is.

[@liamgradwell2998]

This story was basically the Doctor questioning himself about how he travels in time. About how he has to keep following the rules of time, but in that one moment, he wanted to break the rules for once, and he feel more alive than he ever was. But it came at a great price. The Doctor felt all of that and more.

[@Robotjam112]

They found liquid water on mars and everyone's excited D:

[@seandabest6353]

Jamms pop it’s the discovery of extra resources. Before, they only had what was on Earth - now, they were going to have more. Problems can be fixed that couldn’t be before.

[@RiskyReal]

as opposed to solid or gas water? lol

[@detectivefoxley9912]

@@RiskyRealYou mean ice and water vapor?

[@cd8467]

TheTenthHead uhhhh... what do you think ice is... and mist?

[@lewisunderwood9471]

@@RiskyReal idiot

[@RantingThespian]

This episode was so amazing. Writing, acting, directing, effects, scares, humor, and everything that makes Doctor Who great.

[@jamesmckenzie2621]

This story had the best explanation of a "fixed point" and why they're so important. Oftentimes episodes will introduce it as a throwaway explanation for why they can't do something or why there are huge metaphysical consequences to their actions. This episode presents it as an event that's so deeply intertwined with the future development of history that to change it would alter things to a degree that time can't bear without causing damage. I wish they'd explore this idea more on the show.

[@c.o7993]

I think the reason he tells her what happens when she dies is to remind himself why he has to let them die. So it not for her sake that he tells her all the great things her family will do its for his own

[@Gooner184]

Such brilliant scenes in this episode. Surely you must upload the Timelord victorious scene?

[@DoctorWho]

You may be in for a treat on Sunday, keep an eye...

[@Gooner184]

:D

[@urnan9073]

Arsenal It was great watched it on blu ray

[@valmid5069]

42 likes so far! The number reminds me Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, or that Dr Who episode

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

This dialogue is insane. This might be Russel’s best ever script. Plus he couldn’t get better actors to deliver these lines.

[@ErinFlatFingers]

This scene made me cry. It was... just... so good

[@avatarzang2674]

The RTD writing in the history of this show is unmatched.

[@RJA]

RTDs callbacks to previous episodes/seasons is unmatched, this scene gives more weight to the fires of Pompeii for example.

[@bdotm]

Moffat better

[@loomingmoon4682]

@@bdotm Moffat was more of an ideas guy than Davies, coming up with much more creative ideas overall, but Davies' writing held far more dramatic weight

[@markc8956]

@@bdotm You're simply wrong. Moffat took RTD's impressive writing and showrunning,and disgustingly crapped right all over it with the very poor Series 5 and even WORSE Series 6.

[@bdotm]

@@markc8956 Idiot. Delete your account.

[@m.a195]

Tennant changes a fixed point, nothing really happens. Smith changes a fixed point, the entire universe is messed up. I miss the Tennant days.

[@aname3288]

Prepare for a RANT! Tennant/10th Doctor changes fixed point = He becomes obsessed with his own power and sets a chain of events that nearly leads to his own death. Smith/11th Doctor changes a fixed point. And for no logical explanation all of time runs at once despite the fact that the past, present, and future, will always be separate from each other in order to allow such chain of events, and by all running at once will prevent the past becoming the present, and the present becoming the future, creating a paradox. Which is why the episode is one of the most stupid ive ever seen in any show ever, despite the show itself being really great. I should also mention that the 9th/10th Doctor was never the center of the universe. Yes. They had rare moments of focus where they was like "Wait, YOUR THE DOCTOR?" But only for enemies like the Daleks. But now its always about everyone knowing the Doctor, I mean him being president of the world in times of danger? Its stupid. I missed the old days where things the Doctor did was not always world ending but did cause a chain of events that I explained above. 10th Doctor changes fixed point only to create a chain of events that lead nearly to his death. 11th does it and it destroys the universe in such a way where it makes no sense what so ever. Why does the change in fix point suddenly HAVE to be world ending? Is it to go "The Doctor is important?" Yes. Thats Moffats writing for you, to make the Doctor feel important he writes it so everyone either scared of him, knows him, or every action he does wrong or write has massive effect. While RTD wrote it so a majority of the time the 10th Doctors changes would have extremely small impacts, but still impacts that set of a chain of events that could impact him later. But he did it in such a way that it made us feel the Doctor was important, While Moffat makes it world ending every single time in order to force the importance on us. Yes, RTD did make a few world ending episodes. But not every single bloody time. And yes, Moffat did allow some episodes to be non-world ending. Im talking about a majority. So, thats my rant, a really long way of going "I agree with you, miss Tennant days, where things was not thrown in our face and we was rewarded for paying attention"

[@yraco1232]

In this episode it really shows what a fixed point is, fixed. Captain Adelaide Brooke dies on 21 November 2059 and nothing that anyone does can change that, sure you can change the details like her dying on Earth instead of Mars and a couple crew members surviving but there is no way to change history defining event.

[@tsukopara2054]

yraco That’s what I always liked about this episode & Father’s Day. If you try to change a fixed point in time, time just rewrites itself & gets a bit creative. If you create a paradox, time literally erases you & the event from ever happening. The Doctor & his companions always felt subject to time & despite the TARDIS being a miracle ship, it wasn’t the be all end all. Whereas in the Smith era, changing a fixed point can completely destroy time & is such an easy mistake that it’s a wonder time still exists. Had The Wedding of River Song taken place during the Davies Era, the suit simply would have made River throttle the Doctor or use a failsafe weapon & that would be that.

[@liftlash98]

uggghhh wibbly wobbly timey wimey...

[@ProtusMose]

Previously on the 11th Doctor: The entire world/universe/time itself is dying! This week on the 11th Doctor: The entire world/universe/time itself is dying! Next week on the 11th Doctor: The entire world/universe/time itself is dying! It really lost any sense of urgency.

[@marinalynn1000]

She flies out there like she's trying to meet you.

[@bfgsquad4589]

This single scene has more emotional weight than all of Jody Whitakers run as Dr.

[@TheFounderUtopia]

One of the most touching and well-shot scenes on the whole show.

[@rhysmorgan2565]

Captain Brooke says: “what’s going to save you?” The Doctor replies: “Captain Adelaide Brooke.”

[@genevievegershkoff6812]

I watched this today and I still have chills. I'd go as far as to say this is the scariest episode of the reboot. Not because of the water creatures, but because of Tennant. He kinda lost control. Ten after Donna was just...freaky.

[@eugenegrewing2587]

Exactly. He's so good!

[@klaragazar1256]

This was such a great and emotional episode. What Adeleide did in the end showed she was strong and brave but I can't help thinking it was a little bit her fault too that she had to kill herself in attempt to set everything right. The very first moment Doctor realised where he ended up it was obvious he wanted to get out because I think that deep down he knew what he could do but Adeleide didn't let him leave. Everything escalated to the point he had to stay a little bit longer and get involved because he wouldn't be capable to leave. When he finally was able to leave I actually believe he would... with heavy heart and regret but he would leave... and than Adeleide stopped him and pretty much interogate him into telling her what was going to happen to her and the others. Her understandable moment of weakness was the last straw for him. When he finally could leave the explosion happened and he heard in his head all those situations when he lost everyone he loved and cared about and he snaped... and we got to see Timelord Victorious.

[@abbysands9510]

But that won't save the universe. Her death was important because she dies on Mars which inspires her daughter to take to stars. When her daughter comes home she going to see her mother had committed suicide and she will spend the rest of her life wondering why a woman who had everything going for her would commit suicide. So the doctor changed the future because her daughter might never take to stars. She killed herself to spite the daughter as if to tell the doctor you can't save everyone. Second were the hell are the reapers

[@chrispowell2608]

Listen was great; unlike a lot of Moffat's cleverly plotted episodes it had some real heart. But The Waters of Mars is probably my favourite Who episode of all. It's Davies at his best; all about loneliness, mortality, and the hope of redemption.

[@Lythgoemania]

To be honest, Davies didn't have that much to do with it. He added in the deeper, more emotional moments of the episode but a lot of it was written by Phil Ford.

[@derekmccurry5415]

Listen would've been great if he didn't involve going back through the Doctor's timeline and landing on Gallifrey, two things the TARDIS absolutely can't do.

[@Kasparovwannabe]

Robert Lythgoe ??? It's my impression from the responses the writers have given that it was a pretty much even effort. I'm not accusing you of making stuff up, but do you have a source? I'm genuinely interested in reading about it.

[@Lythgoemania]

Kasparovwannabe I'm sure I read it somewhere, but I can't remember. It could have been in RTD's "The Writer's Tale". Also, it's the assumption I got from watching the episode. Usually, when showrunner's co-write episodes, they only write at least 20% of it. Exactly the same with Moffat and his co-written efforts in S8. It's clear from watching them that he only wrote bits of them, and not half of the thing. I get that same feeling from watching Waters Of Mars. The Way I see it, Phil Ford wrote the general, basic plot of the episode, but RTD added more depth to it like the final scenes with the Doctor turning evil so he could set up End Of Time.

[@Lythgoemania]

weekj2001 Don't know, but I'm sure Listen's script at least had good grammar...

[@Kildat1]

He refuses to save her here while she begs, later he chooses to save her while she insisted on dying

[@DalekTheSupreme]

The emotion in this scene is fantastic. This is without a doubt one of David Tennant's better episodes.

[@Wastemaster24]

Doctor who the only show that has the balls to make all of the following scary; T.V (Idiot's Lantern) Blinking (Blink) Your memory (Day of the Moon) Snowmen (The Snowman) and Water (see above)

[@quasimoto8461]

Also people! (Terror of the zygons.)

[@nessi4933]

And Walls, Ceilings and floors (Flatline)

[@quoverlord9398]

Cars...(The Sontaren Stratagem/Poison Sky)

[@PerovNigma]

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[@RileyHarrisVFX]

Are we forgetting the horrible combination of gas masks and mommies

[@geoffreybassett6741]

For me, the highest point of emotion the series has ever reached. I cry every...single... time.

[@Skilly31]

I genuinely forgot how good this episode is.. its so different from other episodes. It is actually dark.. also Davids acting in it is outstanding! As you can tell I just watched the episode

[@a_ditto5722]

"Imagine, imagine you were in Pompeii and by trying to save them, You make it happen."

[@northofmars]

Remember when the writers could truly conjur such an amazingly tense, depressing, hopeless, yet magnificent moment? The directing, the editing, the sound design, the dialogue. All perfect. An absolutely brilliant episode.

[@SaintsBro217]

Something tells me we're gonna see something like this again with Capaldi. His Doctor is shaping up to be the most ruthless yet

[@mayotango1317]

To be honest, I already lost my faith with Capaldi when he said "I'm an idiot ..." in the finale of Series 8. Matt Smith had moments like this video with his words and speeches full of poetry and wisdom, Capaldi is only "I am the Doctor and I will save people "and emotionless ungracefully face.

[@TheHiddenMadHatter]

MaddoxProductions1 I think it had to do with timing. There was a terrorist attack(Paris I think) at the time, and his speech just fit the moment. It connect with people, plus I think he performed it with a lot more feeling then any other speech he did.

[@hilotakenaka]

Mayo Tango131 To be fair, it’s mainly due to the writing. Peter is an amazing actor though, which is why I like him so much

[@chickennoodlesoup9826]

Eh I don’t know tracer

[@davidmaitland-jones5132]

sadly it was not to be

[@michaelrackermann7247]

This episode still gives me chills and goosebumps even to this day. This episode was truly the pinnacle of Tennant's era in my opinion.

[@Rich575]

I couldn't stop crying when i first saw this on netflix Knowing the doctor couldn't do anything to prevent their deaths

[@Rich575]

***** umm ok? What's wrong with Netflix

[@Daioblis]

He always carries this burden on his shoulders.... The burden of not just millions or even billions.... But trillions... Trillions dead through time and space, and he carries the burdens of them all, all on his own..... The Lonely Angel indeed..... *Edit* See, this is exactly why I want to be his companion. I'm a straight guy, yes, but even then, I know that he's always lonely and needs someone by his side. A close friend, if not a lover, that remains by his side, no matter what happens, until The End of the Doctor. (Ooops! Spoilers!) I want to help him with that burden.

[@legoroan9866]

2:37 shows how great a character she is!! The doctor is the villain of this episode not the flood, she learns time has to happen

[@stephenmurphy2212]

I have a clear idea of what a fixed point in time is: Titanic, Pompeii, World War One, World War Two, September 11 (9/11), Easter Rising, Princess Diana's death, JFK's death, the moon landing, Cold War, Rwandan Genocide, Krackatoa, the meteorite that destroyed the dinosaurs (I mean the spaceship from the 26th century), Great Fire of London, The Troubles in Northern Ireland, A few civil wars, The Falklands, Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Cold War, Ice Age, Second Ice Age, Black Civil Rights Movement in America, Nelson Mandela, the Omagh bombing, Roswell Space Crash in 1947, maybe even the Mars One landing to happen, the list goes on.... Basically big historical events throughout history...

[@Graoutchmeuh]

except no. A fixed point is one single event starting a chain of other events that made history, certainly not an ice age, or a civil war, but the single event that ultimately caused a civil war, that can be a fixed point. As an exemple : WW1 is not a fixed point in time. The assassination of the archduke franz ferdinand is.

[@TheDunnDusted]

The point of a fixed point is that in preventing it from happening, the moment no longer exists. So, for example, by saving the Titanic, we don't know about the event that sank it and so how do stop an event you never heard of. Paradox. If the Doctor stopped the detonation, he would erase the event he heard about and never would have decided to stop it.

[@TicTacMentheDouce]

Dunne N' dusted But that works for everything, if you prevent something from happening in the past, then you can't have known it would have happen, and ... paradox.

[@TheLordkorv]

Dunne N' dusted exept timelords have the ability to remember events that never happend.

[@TheLordkorv]

a fixed point in time is an event with long-standing impacts on the timeline. Not necessarily what you would call big historical events, for example. 5:02 PM on 22 April 2011 by Lake Silencio was a period of time in which nothing much happens and can easily be made a fixed point in time by a single major event. A point in time with lots of things happening, such as in a city (cars moving about, people moving about doing lots of different things etc) may be quite difficult to be made fixed because all the variables. Its important to take chaos theory into account, seemingly unimportant events such as droping a coin or painting you leaving room a certain color might be fixed. bottom line is that i think fixed points are rare and that the doctor is lying or exaggerating most of the time.

[@filipkasten3267]

This is absolutely the best story of the tenth doctor.

[@jacobbarker4180]

Bringing up Pompeii as the hypothetical is a crazy way to tell the audience how this episode will go down.

[@false_terror3647]

He used that example because he made Pompeii happen

[@Eugene_TEC]

Then she throws a fit at him and kills herself when he does come back to save her.

[@marine463]

Eugene Tan to save the universe...

[@meris8486]

Only after he fully explained how important her death was. The whole story is about the doctors decision whether or not to save these people.

[@Hopper89]

The Doctor was being kind, but for the wrong reasons. You can't change time, no matter how much sympathy you have for these people, no matter how much they desperately need help.

[@azapro911]

And therein lies the colossal mistake that the Doctor made here: he told Adelaide her future BEFORE deciding to save the crew, if he'd made up his mind earlier then she'd probably have been nothing but grateful.

[@ralfphelps8365]

I don't think you get the point of the episode. She kills herself to show the doctor that he was wrong. That his Superiority Complex is at fault.

[@AarkonD]

moments like this are why Doctor Who is so awesome

[@moistcakebytheocean3442]

This was the episode that cemented my love for the real doctor, the doctor who understood that time is writen in a way that if it's changed, it will cause a shift that not even he can alter.

[@jrs4753]

This is the curse of the last of the time lords. Imagine going into the past, talking to someone, befriending them, only to find out they are destined to die in a few hours. The Doctor makes friends with historical figures, history comes alive, but because it's history the Doctor has to watch it die.

[@DmanDanni1998]

I wish the new dw ep were as good as this. The new ones seem to be alot more childish and sillyer. I prefer the tone of this ep and teh tennant era and I hope it returns for the capaldie era.

[@oh.749]

Cn u lern spel?

[@superandreluizduarte]

Hey, passing by to say: everything can get worse.

[@DmanDanni1998]

@@superandreluizduarte you are certainly right

[@ashantiaf4657]

This episode was such a beautiful showcase of tennants acting

[@harrybarker3441]

The Best Doctor, and the best acting as a doctor

[@salamipuddin4206]

This episode. Its scary when you have The Flood infecting people and what they become. But it's also scary when The Doctor saves them. When the Doctor saved Caecilius' family they looked at him and the Tardis in wonder and amazement. The complete opposite to when saved Brooke and her crew. This is the story that finally broke the Doctor.

[@WillEvans_]

'Imagine... Imagine you were in Pompeii, and you save yourself.' WHUT?

[@CraigMalkinlol]

can you subscribe to me pwease will

[@danridley6827]

them moments when you watch doctor who on youtube then... ;)

[@CraigMalkinlol]

wanna be firends will

[@AtticusHimself]

"Imagine you were in Pompeii, and you save them, but in doing so you make it happen" That's what he actually said... Please refrain from misquoting and inventing lines from Doctor Who and then proceeding to publicly act confused about them...

[@GhostFreddie]

Hes referring to David Tennants doctor saving Peter Capaldi

[@BoloBouncer]

The same music plays when the War Doctor is deciding to destroy Gallifrey. "Anything I do just makes it happen" is so prescient.

[@sejan8812]

We've seen tens of strong female characters like her over the years. And nowadays current DW writers and actors act like the show was full of misogyny.

[@MegaTonytheboss]

If they were looking for a strong female time lord why not just bring back Romana

[@ljllob4740]

The Observer I miss romana😥

[@crabbieappleton]

That's cuz it was. It's a bit like saying "What misogyny throughout history? Ever hear of Joan of Arc? Marie Curie? Yeah, those two examples outta do it."

[@sejan8812]

crabbieappleton what are you even talking about 😭 im preetttty sure show had more badass women characters than male ones. You are right about the history but that’s not what i am talking about. Please name one time from 9/10/11 era where show was sexist

[@Shendue]

@@crabbieappleton Pffft. Preposterous. If anything, todays' woke narratives are making those forced "heroines" look awful and stupidly parodistic. Wow, big success. Chapeau. They are FUELING mysoginy. Much like other woke nonsense, it's creating more divide and less acceptance, achieving the opposite of its supposed purpose.

[@zanclean6990]

My inner Doom nerd just freaked out at 1:15.

[@SamualN]

+Andrew Meyer Ha ha, 9 months and no one helped you. Sorry, that was mean.

[@MaximG.]

1:11 - Doom sounds in Mars episode? Seems legit.

[@ajallen128]

I'll admit, I'm not the biggest fan of ten. I mean he was good, and David tenant is an amazing actor, but he lacked the grittiness and tragedy nine had. Also nine's humor was more thought out, less Johnny Depp babbling. However, the Waters of Mars is one of the best written episodes ever and I couldn't imagine anyone, not even Christopher, acting this scene better.

[@Here4Hummus]

Lindsay Duncan was fantastic in this critical episode as Adeleide 👏

[@SleepyHeather]

Chris Chibnall couldn't write a scene as beautiful as this if he was showrunner for a century

[@iain9757]

Torchwood Adrift ?

[@lorewalkermaohao4602]

This is the only DW episode I've ever seen in full. And it got me really interested it the series.

[@dsaillant811]

Ah, old NuWho. So much better than Moffatt's work. The emotional impact is actually intense here unlike seasons 5-7.

[@lavaskater4715]

Sometimes 10 says the most contradictory thing because I don't think he tried to even save anyone in Pompeii before he activated the volcano and then Donna had to convince him to save a family. Also I can name a lot of moments where the Doctor had to carry a gun before 10

[@thedoctor1346]

He probably meant that he tried to save them from the pyroviles, not that he tried to save Pompei from the actual eruption.

[@lavaskater4715]

The Doctor Oh well that makes sense, but I still don't see how "You make it happen" had to do with the pyrovile, but then again maybe he was just trying to keep it simple.

[@thedoctor1346]

lavaskater Well The Doctor did technically blow up the volcano, killing hundreds of innocent, unaware people

[@tsukopara2054]

10’s character canonically has vanity issues, as we see here. He contradicts himself because he can’t face the consequences of his actions.

[@raptorprimal1077]

Her stern character is a real difference to the doctor and that's something you rarely see in a companion

[@BishopPlays]

Everything about this episode sums up how doctor who should be. This was one of the most powerful episodes, showing just how much of a struggle the doctors life is. Moffat has gradually got further and further away from this.

[@SeriouslyCrime]

We need more episodes like this

[@rorymartin6500]

Everything was perfect in this episode! It's not my favourite but I just love the performances and the writing in this! It's so dark and sad

[@DarthVader-il2cy]

You can keep your Blink, your Midnight, your whatever. This will always be my favorite, and in my opinion, the best episode of Doctor Who ever!

[@emmanuelatti86]

2019, that scene still crush my heart. Great story. Great acting. Great music. Those were the days...

[@SA-bv5uc]

It's such a shame to believe that we went from this to what we have today. Doesn't really seem like Doctor Who at all anymore :(

[@solarconker]

Yeh it sucks that we don't get anything like this in the new season not even close

[@paulhilliard6844]

The acting in this scene is phenomenal.

[@98benster]

People cant seriously tell them selves that the stuff that gets put out now is anywhere near that level of emotion, and quality of this. This is what doctor who is about!

[@pleonic]

"I am Time Lord triumphant!"

[@pleonic]

***** Yeah, you're right.

[@rhyslloyd3200]

This music plays in Day of the Doctor. Love it.

[@Nnoitrum]

One of the saddest episodes imo

[@TFVProduction]

So Sad I Wanna *Cry* Imagine You Knew Something,

[@farmerned6]

So the "Bad Wolf" 100 years of diverted timeline doesn't need correcting, But not saving the crew - will inspire one person , that's going to be the ONLY person on earth to drive humanity into the stars ......... NAH!

[@seanpazdera6407]

Because the Bad Wolf thing didn't change any fixed points in time.

[@jillgibson4626]

Ugh I loved this episode... Think I should go rent this season today.

[@DarkAntem]

Still my favourite episode

[@yuna2381]

"Anything I do... just makes it happen."

[@asmshafin6200]

Is it just me or Tennant's face looks a bit like Capaldi here???

[@mamiedubingo]

"You die today." Three words, and it mades me shiver.

[@cybusindustriesltd]

Refreshing to see a 'darker' side to The Doctor, hopefully Phil Ford will recreate some of the magic from this episode in series 8!

[@CapralHarrison]

We need more dark and serious Doctor Who episodes like that, Doctor being solo and meeting with people and situations when forced to make hard choices. That episode is pure gold.

[@TheFounderUtopia]

She was the best Doctor's companion who never was.

[@StealthDocs]

This is such a good scene, one of the best in the new series as well as a fantastic episode overall. It's not often we had to see direct consequences of the Doctor's actions or appreciate the risks he takes in intervening.

[@TFVProduction]

You Could Of Shot! "Andy Stone" But You Didnt. *I Loved You For That* :**(

[@BKvoiceover]

IMO, I think one of the best moments in a Doctor Who episode ever.

[@mordirit8727]

Do Daleks experience time the same way Time Lords do? That would explain why that particular Dalek didn't want to kill someone whose death was a fixed point in time.

[@azapro911]

By that point (circa 'Stolen Earth/Journey's End') the rescued/resurrected Davros had probably found a way to make the Daleks see time and space the way that a Time Lord would.

[@mediakira6621]

Wouldn’t have happened like this if Moffat wrote this. He’d just write it so the doctor would magically wave the screwdriver fix everything and save everyone going “oh everyone will think you’re dead” with “I am the doctor” playing

[@rublue42]

Watching this scene in 2009 was deep. One of the darkest moments this program covers about life, death and time travel. It really brings home how decisions have great consequences with the horrible consequences, which ultimately impact other people.

[@charliedavidarnott1537]

Greatest actor to play The Doctor by an extremely long way.

[@subfiction1]

I miss Tennant and his TARDIS interior :'(

[@sherrinfords]

That episode haunts me. As does many others with David Tennant. His performance as The Doctor was so raw and sharp and painfully beautiful. I loved Eleven to pieces and Twelve was unique, but Tennant was just something else. Together with the writing of RTD, he gave us such emotional and spectacular scenes that could actually be physically painful to watch. Sometimes it felt like he could just break down all the walls, go through my screen, through my chest, and effortlessly break my heart before putting it back together and then do it all again. The way he delivers his lines, whatever the tone, is always so penetrating, so pure and genuine. And he can get the same effect with just one look or one smile. RTD said somewhere that Tennant is very open when he does his art, letting people in. That's exactly how it feels and consequently, that also means letting him in. When he performs, he is totally naked and for those open to receive these emotions, it can truly be overwhelming. And because of that, he stays with you. His Doctor will stay with me forever 💙

[@michaelrowe7493]

the music is put into "This time there are three of us" by the way. Why do I need this knowledge?