You Do Not Have To Hand it To The Fascists, Short Fat Otaku

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

“Why do Liberals always call me fascist?” Also him “Look at this cool fascist phrase! I love how in the know Italian Fascism was about liberals and I feel the same!”

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

Thanks for the pin! 🙏🏻

[@andyboom2004]

You gotta hand it to the fascists, one fist at a time.

[@dakunssd]

"Give the fash a hand, or two" (cue that one clip of Richard Spencer "getting a hand")

[@MrBlackjack998]

Oh god, not the cherry-picked tweets!/s Seriously, every single time these people try to "own the left", it's always just some random tweets from random people on Twitter.

[@crystalhazer7246]

Right?! And ones that get over 13k "views" with less than 70 likes.

[@DrPonner]

They're engaging in what is known as the "nutpicking fallacy"

[@themajesticmoose8147]

@DrPonner ha ha, nut.

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

@@DrPonner You mean like what you people do when you show a tweet rom the Quartering

[@MrTriple3D]

@@crystalhazer7246 if you people think fascism is on the rise how can it only get "13k "views" with less than 70 likes", also this very video is a leftist video and the guy has 10k views, the irony is hilarious

[@Gamingpandacat]

Every time I hear him say tactics I am reminded that its not about understanding, its about winning the big debate in the sky

[@GeteMachine]

The person talking about the word moron, gives their full reasoning and he still strawmans them. It was tied to IQ and IQ was tied to eugenics, an actual fascist practice. Where as he is just mad that some word he casually says is just criticized by some random person on twitter, as "the left.'"

[@thenotsodiscretewolf2098]

100% they try to meme or try to frame it.

[@Spitfyre1011]

I wouldn't say it merits stopping using the word, but yes, at least that person gave the actual etymological origin of the word. SFO and his buddies have a bad habit of showing you things that refute their arguments, but just not acknowledging them.

[@justsomeguy6841]

Let it be known that intelligence is not a virtue to the left.

[@Crowley9]

It feels weird listening to this. He keeps going "leftists do this a lot and it's annoying/ridiculous" but then he just moves on without engaging with the actual arguments and content of what he is talking about.

[@AmaraTheBarbarian]

to come up with a moral argument against leftist thought from first principles and have people side with you is difficult, but saying the left is just "godwin's law" posting is easy. Aside from that the people they're fishing for are people who are intellectually lazy, people who will take the short simple and wrong answer at face value rather than expend the mental energy; any time spent actually engaging with the arguments that he's casting aside outright is at best (from their point of view) a waste of time, and at worst built in deconversion.

[@the_garlon]

Realizing that right-wing viewers of "Starship Troopers" still, after all this time, were unaware of the joke was a startling breakthrough for me. I mean, Verhoeven was so on the nose that he was spelunking for hairs.

[@Baccanaso]

This is a bizarre take from leftoids. Rightoids are very much aware, they still like the humans to spite the "media literate" leftoids and progs.

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

​@@Baccanaso🤡🧌

[@Supiragon1998]

I mean, this video was literally talking about how many of them aren't unaware, they just don't care, because they find it cool.

[@onionfarmer3044]

You mean the movie that shows a sex and race equal society that gives everyone a fair chance at a vote while not oppressing non-voters?

[@the_garlon]

@@onionfarmer3044 Yes, the movie that shows a hyper-nationalistic and militaristic planet where full citizenship is kept behind military service (people don’t deserve a “chance” to vote - they should have a an untrammeled right to do so) and anything not considered human is met with fear and violence. You know. Fascism.

[@animalxINSTINCT89]

You gotta hand it to the fascists - Me describing the live grenade in my hand

[@dirtbag1713]

These same guys also like nazis so I don't understand their objection.

[@0744401]

"Freedom of association" is actually supposed to be that thing where the cops aren't supposed to accuse you of a crime for hanging out and "loitering". Or unions aren't supposed to be declared criminal gangs by default. Important to remember that many of the "fundamental rights" we protect in the constitutions were conceived in the context of being opposed to monarchism.

[@WaxMeber]

No, they weren't moron. The American Revolution was against Parliament, not the King. Leftists should know this! Literally read left wing philosophy!

[@TheJoeFactor]

Defending the Nazis, and spreading Nazi apologia is fascist.

[@teenkitsune]

He calls himself liberal, but to me seems more like the enlightened centrist type, and I use enlightened lightly.

[@MEGATONHAMMA]

So a Conservative then…

[@galleryofrogues]

He calls himself a centrist but he’s definitely far to the right on that spectrum. He can deny it all he wants but it’s the truth.

[@seraphonica]

I don't think he realizes that his argument boils down to "liberals... we're like leftists but without morals." which, uh... based?

[@The5armdamput33]

I'm 17 minutes into the video... is he just going to list and incorrectly summarize zero engagement tweets for the whole video; or is he going to examine any of them critically?

[@julietfischer5056]

That might make his brain hurt.

[@TurbopropPuppy]

@@julietfischer5056 he has a brain?

[@julietfischer5056]

@@TurbopropPuppy- He does need those autonomous functions.

[@the_garlon]

Oh, Papa Bird: I remember way back when, when you were so adamant that you weren't a dreaded socialist. How you've grown. I'm so proud 🥲

[@Mike-zx6sl]

Oh hey SFO is still around? I thought for sure his boring faschy pretending to be a liberal would've caused him to fade into irrelevance by now. I haven't heard about him in like, two years at least

[@Saurawr]

Its a great grift, tbh. People going down the centrist-alt right-fascist pipeline love to feel like reasonable people who carefully and logically considered all sides. They CRAVE people who give them an out to feel fair like that. Its the "why i left the left" grift, the smarter fascists see their value and the people on the way to being fascist feel like theyre centrist. They're useful tools to the movement.

[@kevadu]

San Francisco International Airport (airport code SFO) is indeed still around...where would it go?

[@Mike-zx6sl]

@@Saurawr I can still remember him proudly showing off his political compass test results and claiming his views hadn't changed one bit over the last decade as if that's a GOOD thing.

[@Baccanaso]

SFO is clearly a liberal, seems like you're oversocialized to the point that you don't really know what a fascist is.

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

@@Saurawr Man if you think it's a grift to disagree with the left then I don't know what to tell you

[@Iban-Underground]

SFO: "I'm actually left, if not a bit centre. It's just a coincidence that I only agree with, and laugh with, right wing viewpoints, jokes, arguements, etc etc. And it is a massive coincidence that all I ever complain about is left wing viewpoints, jokes, arguements, etc etc."

[@mommyjeans9483]

You stopped watching Rick and Morty at the perfect time. After season 2, it went from being a sitcom about an extremely disfuctional family to 'Rick is pretty much god, isnt he so cool?'.

[@ExtremeMadnessX]

Also, that stereotype that genius people are assholes to other people...

[@neoqwerty]

@@ExtremeMadnessX The only true stereotype I've seen about genius people is that they need a normal person to help them being fully functional adults because that genius in one area means they've got a dump stat somewhere and it's hilarious when you find it. (Shout outs to STEM people trying to cook and following recipes with academic rigor.) I really don't get where the a-hole genius comes from, except maybe some entitled prat who doesn't understand why it's frustrating to explain something for the fifth time and watching them immediately delete the information because reality doesn't agree with them. The only rude genius I've ever seen in the wild was usually someone who's exasperated by something being wrong and commonly repeated anyway, or so far from correct it's not even wrong.

[@gr8kat1]

"Fascist" derives for the Italian word for a "bundle of sticks" --- that's a little bit ironic.

[@lolasdm6959]

Nazi derives from an Austrian slang for simple minded. These guys are just literal sticks.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@lolasdm6959- No: it's a short form of the party's name.

[@lolasdm6959]

@@julietfischer5056 you are right I think I have no idea where I got that from I think an old documentary but can't remember the name,

[@julietfischer5056]

@@lolasdm6959- I've seen it repeated online. The full name is a mouthful, so I can see people using a short form. I have no idea if there's any slang term that sounds like Nazi. Even if there is, I don't see how it could spread quickly enough to become common in a time when mass media was radio, movies, and print publications (television was in its infancy).

[@julietfischer5056]

@@lolasdm6959- I did look up the Nazi Party on Wikipedia. There are a couple of paragraphs on the origin of the term. It's not as simple as the claim we've both come across. "The renaming of the German Worker's Party (DAP) to the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP) was partially driven by a desire to draw upon both left-wing and right-wing ideals, with "Socialist" and "Workers'" appealing to the left, and "National" and "German" appealing to the right. Nazi, the informal and originally derogatory term for a party member, abbreviates the party's name (Nationalsozialist [natsi̯oˈnaːlzotsi̯aˌlɪst]), and was coined in analogy with Sozi (pronounced [ˈzoːtsiː]), an abbreviation of Sozialdemokrat (member of the rival Social Democratic Party of Germany). Members of the party referred to themselves as Nationalsozialisten (National Socialists), but some did occasionally embrace the colloquial Nazi (so Leopold von Mildenstein in his article series Ein Nazi fährt nach Palästina published in Der Angriff in 1934). The term Parteigenosse (party member) was commonly used among Nazis, with its corresponding feminine form Parteigenossin. "Before the rise of the party, these terms had been used as colloquial and derogatory words for a backward peasant, or an awkward and clumsy person. It derived from Ignaz, a shortened version of Ignatius, which was a common name in the Nazis' home region of Bavaria. Opponents seized on this, and the long-existing Sozi, to attach a dismissive nickname to the National Socialists. "In 1933, when Adolf Hitler assumed power in the German government, the usage of "Nazi" diminished in Germany, although Austrian anti-Nazis continued to use the term. The use of "Nazi Germany" and "Nazi regime" was popularised by anti-Nazis and German exiles abroad. Thereafter, the term spread into other languages and eventually was brought back to Germany after World War II. In English, the term is not considered slang and has such derivatives as Nazism and denazification."

[@T-I-M-E.42]

"Liberals that aren't progressive..." So conservatives...?

[@SuperPineCorn]

I'm not more moral because I'm more left wing; I'm more left wing because I am more moral!

[@WaxMeber]

You're an illiterate freakazoid and what Adorno was talking about when he talked about the authoritarian personality. Leftism is not moralism, or at least, its not supposed to be. Read Marx!

[@aeroluster2689]

Isn't the emphasis on the founding myth thing (see: 18:57) just Sorelian fascism (Georges Sorel)? Correct me if I am wrong, but Sorel was a syndicalist marxist revisionist who emphasized the founding myth and it was picked up by italian fascism to justify their own nationalism.

[@unreasonablyagreeable1081]

Show your face dev. Lets see that peek masculinity

[@-kurow-7113]

You see his persona in the thumbnal? You got it

[@onionfarmer3044]

You know he streams right? With his face.

[@kekistani_meme_farmer7242]

Maybe the true fascism was the friends we made along the way.

[@The5armdamput33]

5:38 the places where he chooses to cut the dialog is very telling...

[@-kurow-7113]

The left arm of his persona got broken for some reasons

[@uhu7813]

I really appreciate that he immediately admitted that the comparative list made no sense. Like, yeah, mate. You made it up, you fabricated some bs to not engage with the arguments cause your mind is weak, your faith is bad and your opponents made of straw

[@aholafungi]

Does anyone remember no bullshit? Dev sounds a looooot like no bullshit

[@OtherlingQueen]

Vaush bringing up the quote about liberals being the political wing of fascism is actually so ironic

[@maus6967]

Why does he look like the protagonists relative they live with in that art

[@gweeen_tea]

I've used to argue with this guy frequently on twitter. Dude sniffs his own farts and doesn't really care about his positions. Just seems to like sounding smart and stroking his ego and doesn't understand the positions he holds.

[@brainypepper1621]

Yeah, man. Hitler was a socialist because he gave his friends money. Thanks, Dev.

[@bleakautomaton4808]

Not every person asking you about ethics or policy is somehow "trying to push you toward a more "radical" position" Dev. Also, I do know an older guy who holds a more centrist position because he gives off the impression that there's too much polarization in this country and he wants nothing to do with either (like the "horseshoe theory" thing). And like he's just a chill older guy who is still hippie vibing and trying to live out his retirement, you know. I know he cares about wellbeing of people and is well done with any days of protesting (though he doesn't mind others doing nonviolent protest of course).

[@SuperCatfire]

love how they all use the fucking photo of vaush from like 2002

[@kevin4061]

Devs Chugga Conroy video really sucked, and I'm on the side of chugga. He keep breaking into a political speqch every 5minnuts. And like dude what are you talking about? Even lefties are pro chugga he just wants to make everything about politics and I'm watching it like "this is everything wrong with American politics"

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

That's objectively not true his video defending chugga was great, he's the only person to do it. And to try to undermine that video shows like you don't actually care about Chugga because you're willing to tear down the only successful video made defending him because "muh right wing bad" Like i'm sorry Chugga's accusers are far left feminists not to mention that would be dishonest

[@kevin4061]

@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster Devs video is the most atrocious. Not even Xanderhaul stooped to the level of injecting politics into his video defending chugga, bonlax has his twitter verses chugga where it’s just about the topic with no personal thoughts and that’s clearly in favore of chugga. I don’t really watch his live stream stuff because that’s too much personality but I think he might actually have a video on that channel that defends chugga. It’s disgusting to use this topic for Mr Crocker impressions. Btw I’m a huge chugga fan and lady Emily is clearly a person who led on and bullied an autistic person for being an un-masked autistic person, and I’m not pulling from my ass on this. He admits several times of being on the spectrum. He is such an autistic icon and I’m saying that cause I’m autistic so don’t get any ideas of you using or trying to convince me of using autism as an insult.

[@kevin4061]

@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster “right winger bad” because his using it for political propaganda opportunities and isn’t actually invested in the drama, just wanting to use it as en excuse to talk politics

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

@@kevin4061 "Devs video is the most atrocious."I disagree Blowblax, who just reads tweets was the worst video in the subject. Xanderhal did mention politics in it plus it's a livestream segment so doesn't count as a video Dev was a long time fan of Chugga so to claim he has no investment in the drama is just dishonest. Truth is many people have been convinced of CHugga's innocence due to devs video which is all that matters. Yeah you're right the phase Right wing bad was unfair, dev is not right wing. Mr Crocker impersonations? That's just his friends voice lol what would you rather he does AI? get out of here. Is dev perfect no? but his vid on chugga was fine, Actualjake is a dishonest twat who has had an ax to grind with Dev for years

[@kevin4061]

@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster Im rewatching the Xanderhal vid rn 24 min in and sofar hasn't interjected a Mr. crocker political tangant like dev does. and wow what a streatch, that or you don't know he has his chuga stuff as vods. Tbh this is the first time I saw Devs contrabution and I tried to watch it, but his Mr crocker BS had me skip over it. It wasn't made to defend chuga, it was made to extreamasize people for an ajenda.

[@ryanballd]

Don't know who this guy is, but that drawing looks like DSP.

[@austinaustinaustin]

alternate title: "why it's actually based that people don't like me"

[@atrution]

Lets hope, one day conservatives will understand that it is about conserving systems of power, right wingers will understand that how far right you are is based on how many groups you want disallowed from power, libertarians will realize that a collective is required to guarantee rights in a meaningful way, and republicans will realize that putting someone in office to do all the voting is just denying personal impact on the issues you care about.

[@WaxMeber]

"how far right you are is based on how many groups you want disallowed from power" its not possible for you to be this stupid. It just isn't. Please, read a single book. Just one, any book.

[@latenightdriver9680]

Fascism or Left Anarchism. How about neither. Why do I feel like there's a whole gulf of shit in between these two that isnt even centrism?

[@Deunan_Knute]

"none of these have any likes" 31k likes on that video.

[@natrixxvision6997]

35:43 We all have a little bit of fiend in each of us Jake. Yowie wowie. And remember, I will always light the way. All you have to do is let me in.

[@anothercub6958]

Why's he gotta use an old vaush pic?

[@christophergreen6595]

I really miss the show they had, Dril/Wint

[@joshkaid]

This just in... Idiots on the internet say idiotic things on the internet!

[@robyngiesbrecht5206]

Ah yes, anarchism, the well known pacifist political philosophy

[@StormCrownSr]

He is very intelligent.

[@idsbraam]

Anarchists, pacifist. HAHA.

[@Shivers2010]

You are literally the meme that Dev is making fun of in this video you actual NPC.

[@AxelLeJeff]

Here's a meme nobody like, see, I made that, I'm famous.

[@ScreamingSturmovik]

both these guys are idiots A.J. kept "pause Andying" halfway through explanations to take moral pot shots at SFO (pissing in the well while people are trying to drink) A.J. is pretending that there hasn't been campaigns shouting down things and depending on the "no true Scotsman" concept to say that those shouting them down are not from his team unironically both of these guys would dream of the end state of communism (which is basically the ultimate state of libertarian/anarchy) but SFO game up and A.J. is still trying to figure it out

[@StormCrownSr]

The only way to think both are idiots is if you agree with the fascist at least on some values. Or maybe you're not suited for content like this.

[@ScreamingSturmovik]

@@StormCrownSr the concept is a good value is a good value weather or not the fascist has it or not.....the reason the fascists won the Spanish civil war is because they were cohesive, while the Republicans had so much infighting that parts of their forces spent a good amount of time shooting at other republicans rather then nationalists as i said A.J. will use the "no true Scotsman" to disown anyone working with his ideological allies that makes them look bad like those who were blocking students from getting to class

[@bmw895]

What if bothe are genuinely stupid though?​@StormCrownSr

[@airlesscanvas6425]

Here is this video Dev: Makes a point Jake: This is wrong and let me tell you why: (Makes some combination of bad faith interpretation, quietly agreeing that he is a radical, call him a fascist unironically.)

[@unreasonablyagreeable1081]

Nobody actually loves you

[@Saurawr]

So you think delving six months back for zero engagement tweets so you can pretend you have a narrative is good faith?

[@airlesscanvas6425]

@@Saurawr What are you on about?

[@airlesscanvas6425]

@@unreasonablyagreeable1081 Never heard that one before, you people need better material.

[@Saurawr]

@@airlesscanvas6425 I don't know how I could more plainly say it. Did you just not watch any of the video? This is weak trolling, you're better than this

[@justingovas415]

Ooof. Liberal hate is fucking stupid. Not all of us are in the strawman you are spreading.

[@andrewgreen5574]

It's justified from a leftist perspective, specifically around economics and attempts at suppressing political disruption and change. The "concervatives" don't have any real grievance, as they are technically libs themselves.

[@-kurow-7113]

​@@andrewgreen5574Conservatives thinks anyone to their left that isn't racist is a liberal,which is why their critcism aren't worth anything.