YOU DO NOT NEED A DSP DIGITAL SOUND PROCESSOR ON A HARLEY DAVIDSON 2014 & UP SOUND SYSTEM INSTALL

In this Video 702 Motoring provides "Their" opinion with regards to DSP's Digital Sound Processors and if 702 Motoring feels that you "NEED" "MUST" Use a DSP when adding aftermarket Amplifier(s) to a Harley Davidson Motorcycle mainly focusing on 2014 & up Harley Motorcycles using the stock factory radio or aftermarket radio's as in Sony or Soundstream Reserve HDHU.14+
Understand that 702 Motoring is simply providing our opinion regarding DSP's and our opinion in no way has any relation, connection or response to another persons, shops, channels, etc opinion.

[@droclevelandoh8842]

Thank you for your opinion I appreciate that ,it’s good to know you don’t need one if you don’t want one and still get great sounds

[@aarongreene9963]

I really enjoyed this to the fullest. I liked the way you broke it all down for ppl. I’ve been doing car audio for years and jumped into motorcycle audio and noticed how overly complicated it has been made. And that plug n play terminology needs to go away. It’s not real you still have to wire power ground remote, speakers to amp and. The way you exposed that company and the inaccuracy that somehow you’re going to send two different frequencies to a speaker that feeding from one channel. Excellent 👏🏽

[@superduty131]

Good video! I went with the HKI mini. 8 speaker bike and sub. 2 800 x4 sound digital in fairing and 1-800 x1 for the sub in rear. Shop that did install flashed it flat and tuned it. Sound is great and very loud and clear, I have never gone past half volume. It was tight for room of install on the DSP because I have the CB module, but they made it fit using a T harness no cutting. Thanks for the video, confirmed I have made the rite choices.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Glad you enjoyed the video

[@xavierwilliams4320]

Are you running 8s or 10s on your bike

[@superduty131]

@@xavierwilliams4320 10s from DS18.

[@paulreed1008]

Great video sums up a lot of confusion for a lot of people, I personally have experienced one of your Diamond set ups and it is phenomenal to say the least, I will be purchasing my own set up in the real near future and hope to keep pushing that Diamond experience, Don't change your ways for nobody, honesty these days is a rarity

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Thank you we appreciate the honesty

[@dennismccleney2302]

Two of the main reasons to flash these radios is so you can enable the rear speaker option and add an aftermarket amplifier. You do NOT need to disable the EQ and add a DSP, but a DSP WILL allow a qualified tuner to tune the audio in much finer detail than with the stock EQ. The flat line doesn't mean you've lost any signal. It means the radio isn't altering the signal.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

You are incorrect with both your assumptions, the Main reason and the ONLY reason to flash the factory radio is to remove the radical harley eq curve out of the radio, it has nothing to do with rear speakers

[@derfskittlers6125]

You're both correct and wrong. 😛

[@JosephPowers369]

I have installed custom audio systems in cars and I was asked to install 3 Amps and a DSP on a Harley, I am glad I ran into this video. It’s not as crucial on cars I am thinking it has to do something with an Alternator vs a bikes charging system which uses a stator instead.

[@MrPhipsi74]

What Techno Research Flash do you recommend (2020 Road Glide, factory radio, Hertz amp/speakers)? It seems two articles you show mention the Rockford Fosgate flash. Is that a good generic flash for most any amp/speaker combo?

[@floydkemp3134]

Well according to Carlos owner of NVSAUDIO one of the top installers in the nation says yes you need a DSP. 99% of his installs uses a DSP. He's in New Jersey and people all over the county who wants good audio especially Harleys will either ship their bike to him or drive over 24 -48 hours to have him to their bikes. People are 100% happy with his work using DSP's . But this still is a good video with lots of info!

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Hello Floyd, Appreciate the information, Our video as you understand is simply our opinion regarding if a DSP is necessary on 2014 & Up Bikes when adding aftermarket audio - you have provided a Great Example - Here you have one business and our business that simply look at things differently, we are not saying any other person, business, forum, etc is right or wrong, only providing our simple opinion along with our experience and we respect everyone's opinion regardless if it agrees or disagrees with our position and as you can see we do not hide our installs, we post what we have along with the exact product used and we use a meter so if others when listening from a smart phone clearly will not hear the true example of our sound systems but the meter can at least give them a number that they can google and say to themselves hey I really cant tell on my smartphone about the loudness but dang google says that sure is LOUD !!!. Also, we have buyers that also vehicle transport their bikes to us from all of the Country with a very large concentration coming from California, Arizona & Utah along with one 2020 Road Glide all the way from Germany and trust us that was very very expensive and lastly Every customer is 150% Happy with our work without using a DSP, matter of fact I believe we have probably done the personal bikes of about every Metro Police Officer in all of Las Vegas - but again sincerely appreciate your comment and keeping it real.

[@floydkemp3134]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 OK...Thanks!

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@floydkemp3134 Anytime...

[@JerzyBoy973]

Hold on a second before you bring Carlos into this. He never said you NEED one. He says you should use one for best results. And that HE only does installs with DSP’s. Don’t go starting sh*t online.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@JerzyBoy973 Who are you referencing your comment to?

[@RGHD912]

You don’t need one, but every system WILL sound better with a dsp! Facts!!!!

[@angelvip2474]

I enjoy your videos. I enjoy audio. Maybe your videos are geared towards diy guys. If that’s the case, ok I get it. But 1. Harley by putting that elevated eq curve pretty much embedded a type of sound characteristic that would allow their oe speakers to sound acceptable for their factory system according to them. This is essentially a oe digitally sound processed tune. By flashing you come back to “flat” usable curve for aftermarket equipment. 2. Every speaker has a sound signature that is expressed in thiele small parameters of said drivers. They are all different with their own unique sound. By flashing your bike as per Rockfords recommendation you are once again re adjusting the eq curve to fit their drop in amp and speaker combo. Well what happens when you use speaker “B” or “C” and the Rockford tune no longer gives the expected result? Well Rockford and Idatalink has you covered with the DSR1. As a matter of fact alot of companies have you covered for all the combination of amp and speaker sound signatures in way of a DSP. California shops jacking up bike audio has nothing to do with using eq or DSP but more to do with the crappy work and lack of knowledge of said shops. If this video is truly about “If you “have “ to have a DSP to do audio on a bike? Then the answer is of course no. You don’t “need” a DSP about as much as you don’t need one for a car and get by with a hi-low converter. Emphasis on “get by”. On one hand you have a rider using conventional speakers with a simple flash , on the other a rider with same setup except using pro audio mid and compression tweeters………………… the first may sound ok but subdued in output and the other is much louder but can get over bearing at its true max potential. What do you do in either case that would indeed be the single most important upgrade in either situation? DSP. Period. The one tool that can shape either system from “ok or even good” to damn not only loud but clean and not just screaming . SPL readings do nothing for rider position sound quality and output. So…. Do you need a DSP? To all your viewers, I guess the answer is of course no. Your radio and amps will play…….. But I guarantee that it would sound much better and the $300 you invest in the DSP will improve your total “quality” of sound far surpassing the $300 invested on said DSP. Again just my 2 cents, enjoy the vids.

[@SmittybuiltHD]

Would a dsp make a difference on just a 2 speaker setup with amp? Say ground zero yellows with an sd 800.4? This is my current setup and I've tried with dsp and also without and can't really tell a difference when riding. But i also don't know much about tuning dsp and tried following steps on some KZbin videos, so I'm apparently not tuning correctly or it really isn't making a difference either way. It is quite frustrating for the diy people like me.

[@xavierwilliams4320]

@@SmittybuiltHDif you find a guy who can tune really well there’s gonna be a HUGE difference!!!

[@RGHD912]

Well said totally agree, I would definitely want a dsp !

[@xavierwilliams4320]

@@RGHD912 It’s something almost all audio guys want on the bike

[@SmittybuiltHD]

@Xavier Henry the problem is finding someone who can tune really good. I've seen some reputable audio guys offer tuning over phone? How is that even possible? I'm still relativity new to this and trying to understand and learn more.

[@floydkemp3134]

Came back...looking for new speakers fpr my 2014 Streetglide...going with Diamond no DSP! tHANKS!

[@Jeffmd2020]

I’m getting ready to upgrade the audio on my 2007 street glide and I’ve finally settled on a sound digital 1200.4 evox2 amplifier, cicada CH6.5” 4ohm faring speakers and cicada CH6x9” 4ohm lid speakers. I already have the new soundstream reserve HDHU-9813SG radio and it’s absolutely amazing!! I’ve never done a motorcycle system where the horn tweeter in the speakers are a 8ohm load and come with a crossover to protect them… so my question is. Would a DSP be beneficial to me or would I be perfectly fine without one?! I know I don’t “need” one but with the tweeters being a different load I figured I’d ask a pro cause I’ve never even heard of a DSP till I started doing motorcycle audio! Sorry for the long comment I just wanted to be thorough with what I already have and what I’m upgrading to. Thanks in advance brother.

[@ericperry72]

Just watched this. I think the best way to get everybody to understand this DSP controversy, is do you need a DSP to make your bike sound better than your OEM? No. Do you need a DSP if you got 4 speaker setup with 1 or 2 amps to sound good? No. But if you want to maximize your equipment or you plan to compete then yes you need a DSP. If you can't afford a DSP and a good install, spend the money on the quality install first. A DSP can be added later.

[@extremebaggers7817]

I don’t think it’s a forwarding it. I think it’s people understanding how they work.

[@melissathompson7229]

I've been a professional installer since 1998. Back in the day we set gains by ear. Now we use an oscilloscope or dd1 if the amp doesn't have it built in. It's a similar argument. IMHO a processor may not be needed but it sure as hell makes it sound much better if you know how to set it up correctly. I just don't see someone spending 5-10k on a stereo and not being able to justify a DSP even if it's as simple as a $275 DSR1. Just literally makes no sense to me. Having the eq and bandpass crossovers to go active etc makes it worth it. And yes the radio has to be flashed to flat no matter what equipment is used

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

DSR1 Runs $349.99 - MSTLINK Runs $149.99 - Wiring & Tune =$200.00 Min that is a total of $699.98 Our Diamond Audio Sound Systems do not require that extra money, it is that good and not one single customer out of no BS Hundreds are more than satisfied with the sound they have when they ride their Harley out of our Shop, if they want to spend the extra money, Awesome, but it is NOT needed

[@melissathompson7229]

If it works for you that's awesome. In fairness it's tough to sell something you don't believe in obviously and that's your choice as the owner or manager. There's just no comparison with and without a DSP. That's not subjective. If it's not worth the money to your customer I understand and as an installer I felt the same way as you about DSP in cars for years because I wasn't 100 percent confident in my ability to tune it and our owner was a cheap ass and wouldn't buy an electrical RTA or an acoustic RTA. Then I went to several K Fests and to Mobile Solutions and started getting more confidence and now almost every system leaves with a DSP. Do not take this as me bashing or anything or saying your installers arent capable. That was just my experience

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@melissathompson7229 Well let us just simply say this, the product you are used to installing back in 1998 as also myself personally is nothing compared to the Diamond Audio product we install on today's Harleys, back in 1998 you where not using DSP's you where using items like Carver KLW Image Enhancers, Phantom's & Cathedral's - I am personally also from that area, tell you what, sit in front of a PC with some nice BOSE Speakers on each side and a sub and take a listen, a REAL Listen to what these Harley's sound like we build with the equipment we use in the $3500.00 out the door installed price and experience what is nothing short than Magic - each and every bike is tuned to my ear with the screwdriver in my hand, I know what I produce and the bikes that pull out of here will go up against anything else others build in factory stock locations in sound quality and DB's of Loudness and I do it all without a DSP because I have the experience, knowledge, drive and Passion to do what I do best - I am in no way saying I build the best, or I create the best or I use the best equipment because I am not conceded - experience one of these bikes I do in front of a PC with quality speakers - I know what I do and so do every one off my customers, it starts by using the right equipment and for 702 Motoring that is Diamond Audio

[@chrismainor]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 if you sell the DSP, why not include the tune as it is part of the install you are already doing, that would give the client the value and "cost savings"

[@chrismainor]

@@melissathompson7229 FACTS cant sell something you publicly have no faith in

[@RGHD912]

You don’t need one, but they sure as hell make a difference! I want one and have one. Your system will sound better with one!

[@knowwes]

Thank you very much, wow I have a rockford dsp and ready to take it out

[@elmalkriao100]

Good I will buy it lmk

[@blaque1069]

I am EXTREMELY happy with my small 8 speaker rider system with no DSP on my bike but I’m on a couple of FB pages and when some of those folks see this video they are gonna drag you

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Ow Yea we are well aware... :)

[@chrismainor]

it is not about dragging anyone or shop it is more about, the info being put out you cant take the stand that you are saving your clients money by not putting in a DSP, then when they hear a bike with the same setup with a DSP and now want it what shop is going to install a DSP without now charging the client for it when they could of got it first hand and if you got a 8speaker bike, then your installer left a whole lot of stuff on the table without giving you a DSP, and i will bet on that

[@blaque1069]

@@chrismainor I’m sure a shop would’ve made it sound better but did it all myself with a Daniel Hearn tune and … again…. EXTREMELY happy!

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@chrismainor Negative, Your statement holds no merit, especially when you are comparing us to other shops that are using inferior product in their sound systems, feel free to put that DSP on a bike with a bunch of Hertz or Ground Zero product, MMATS, ARK or whatever our Diamond Audio Systems will walk all over them without a DSP !!!

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@chrismainor Again that is your opinion as we have ours, Our Systems Rock, the Videos prove that and all without a DSP - so not sure what to say to you

[@s.in.bagger9933]

I understand this is your opinion, but let's say hypothetically your running a simple 4 speaker system with 8" speakers in the rear and 6.5" in the front. They are obviously going to have different crossover points, power ratings, and many other differences in parameters....So therefore this in this situation, a DSP will absolutely be needed to set proper crossover points based on speaker parameters. When you tune via your RTA a DSP instantly becomes an even more powerful tool because you can set your own EQ on each speaker. This is just my .02

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

We appreciate your comment, however your simple 4 speaker system is to vague to provide you with a definite answer, however if we go with your example and your position that a DSP is absolutely necessary, OK, so what would happen if a DSP was not used on your example? using one 4 channel amplifier? the system has tuning through the amplifier - and that would mean that a DSP is not absolutely necessary, understand we are not saying a DSP will not make a sound system sound better, we all know it will, what we are saying is that it does not have to be used as in you have no choice, for example take a Ferrari - you have to use Premium Gas in the car, so what happens if you put regular unleaded in the car? it is still going to run maybe not to its potential but it will be OK. Here is another example, take your 4 speaker system (1) Pair Diamond Audio MP84 8's one pair Diamond Audio MP654 6.5's / use a Soundigital 800.4 EVOX - take channels 1 & 2 and runs the horns front and rear, channels 3 & 4 run the mid's front and rear - We can tune the horns separate from the mid's all off of the amplifier, customer will be very happy, no DSP is used, will it sound better with a DSP certainly, but it is not necessary, DSP adds a good bit of money to a sound system / our position is simply saying it is not necessary - if it was it is highly possible a consumer may not have that extra 350 - 600 dollars to spend and his only option would be purchase less expensive speakers that even if using a DSP may not sound as good as putting a set of MO75T Shallow Horns in the Grill and MSPORO65 Mid behind those and one pair of Diamond Audio MP694 Coax Horn 6x9's in the rear, 800.4 EVOX amplifier will put out 800 Watts and hit a easy 128 DB with crystal clear sound, How much better do you want? we still do not see the competition using meters on their sound systems, we say it many times in our video's we are interested in seeing what other shops produce, we are not saying we are the best all we would like to know is how does our Diamond Audio Sound Systems stack up with others that do sound systems, we are open to learning new ideas, trends, secrets, etc. but at the end of the day with us at least our systems do NOT in any way need a DSPP - the video's are proof to that.

[@s.in.bagger9933]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 I don't see the point of spending thousands of hard earned dollars on an audio package to make it sound "meh" at best. Then there's band passing, a factory head unit cannot do that, only a DSP can. Same goes with time delays, acoustical phase shifts, precisely changing crossover points, setting EQ per speaker, and so much more that you really feel comfortable not using one? I understand it's not technically "needed" to operate an audio upgrade, but the benefits from having one far outweigh the need to not. That's like saying that you don't need tires on rims to drive down the road, but it sure does make life a whole lot better if you did.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@s.in.bagger9933 Well, We respect your position, maybe other sound systems out there maybe a DSP would be necessary in order to make less expensive speakers sound satisfactory, however maybe we are just working with a much higher caliber of sound system components and design, this sound system shown is using (2) Soundigital 800.4 EVOX Amps, that is a real 1600 Watts RMS (12) Speakers - If the position was 100% written in stone you MUST or HAVE to use a DSP on a Harley Davidson Sound System install then it would be impossible for what we are showing to work, this is a Brand new 30 ish miles 2021 Road Glide, driven right off of the showroom floor to our Showroom Floor for a full sound system - this is a High End Sound System by the very definition and a good amount of coin spent on it and it operates flawlessly, it by far exceeds any buyers expectations - DSP not used nor necessary and that is the point we are saying, OUR Sound Systems do not Need a DSP maybe it is just my ear that makes it possible to tune these bikes the way every bike is tuned. I would much rather not charge the customer the extra $650.00 for the DSP and add a front and rear DVR recording waterproof camera system, maybe even a GPS tracking Viper System for that $650.00 - that is more important to us at least, if you are ever in Las Vegas we invite you to stop in and 90% of the time we have a bike all set to be delivered you can stand next to and hear and experience one of our Sound Systems - I will bet you $20.00 you yourself will be more than satisfied and all without the usage of a DSP. 😊

[@nickeminoski2205]

Genuine comment, I’m not bashing your theory as it’s all true. But even if your signal going into the amplifier is flat that doesn’t necessarily mean your sound coming out of the speakers is flat. Some speaker depending on cone material (paper, carbon, etc) will play something frequencies much higher or lower than other frequencies. That’s where I believe a dsp will come into play. To fine tune the actual sound coming out of the speaker. To each there own! I personal would rather run a dsp for ultimate control over my system than depend on a flash only. Now if your on a budget…. No, it’s not absolutely necessary. It when you want that little extra to have the ability to intiuate each frequency within the bandwidth of the dsp (10 band, 31 band). So a dsp does have value if used properly with a rta. My opinion

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Hello Nick, We appreciate your input and do agree with you that a DSP will allow us to fine tune a Harley Sound System or any vehicles Sound System to a higher quality sound, we do not relate being on a budget to weather we use or do not use a DSP - Believe us our full sound systems are not budget systems - on average they cruise between $3500.00 - $5000.00 / We believe it may be a possibility we are simply using a Higher End Product in our Systems with Diamond Audio and along with the specific design and techniques we use that simple do not force the requirement of a DSP - we normally are not using a name brand two way speaker like many others, I suppose if we did yea a DSP would be needed to get the quality sound out of the speakers, we believe our sound systems are already elevated above many others out there but again that is only our opinion.

[@ridered7394]

Thanks for the info, I’m just looking to do a 2speaker up grade on a 2022 road glide, don’t really want to install a amp or dsp or any other parts unless I need them , do I have to flash the radio or get a dsp to upgrade the fairing speakers?

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

If you are only adding speakers only no radio flash is needed, however you will not really notice that big of an improvement unless you add an amplifier, then a radio flash is needed, a dsp is not in this conversation as it is an item not needed or mentioning, but like we said an amplifier is something that should be considered - Do you recall that smile you had on your face when you took that 2022 Road Glide for a ride the very first time all by yourself, OK, now take that smile and imaging if it was 4 times as Wide and Big - that is what happens when you put this in your bike www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/harley-road-glide-diamond-audio-pro-speaker-micro4v2-amp-kit-mspro65-mo75t-horns

[@antoinebanks1710]

Thx 4 clarifying...

[@troyclardy4067]

The one thing that I learned from this video is that it sure sounds like you are harboring some kind of hateful grudge against CICADA. What up with that. However I agree that the DSP is not necessary 👍🏻

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Not at all - If that was so we would not have posted this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rme7qWqnhJuni7M

[@johnviera3884]

Putting a DSP inside an amplifier is the best thing since microwave popcorn

[@PkwyDrive13]

Definitely not

[@johnviera3884]

@@PkwyDrive13 ok. Maybe not microwave popcorn. More like ATM machines.

[@romesyoutubechannel5356]

Thank you for this video you have just confirmed what I've been saying for years. A DSP is NOT NECESSARY. But I know there's a guy in New Jersey that probably swears you and me have no idea what we're talking about.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Understood, our video is not directed to or in relation to any specific person or seller - everyone does have their own opinions and their right to believe and see things the way they do - this is what makes the Country so Great we can all agree to simply disagree .... >>> :)

[@qf76mnd15]

Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about

[@chrismainor]

On the topic of the Hd EQ in red as depicted on the Cicada site, then the Cicada fix in the blue line The blue line displays the complete opposite EQ curve cause then it would cancel out the existing EQ curve from HD thus producing a flat response

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

We are not convinced what Cicada is offering is a legitimate substitute for simply flashing the factory radio further evidenced by Cicada also stating you must run to have your bike flashed with the Rockford Flash.

[@BlackEyeSRT]

It wouldn't be flat I'm not sure where you got this answer look at your flat EQ and since your HD curve is Boosted and Cicadas curve is below the flat curve. Now you're having a reduce response look at the graph

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@BlackEyeSRT Understood, our position is why reduce or downgrade the signal so much in a attempt to use an item someone is slinging to you for $329.99 when you can just flash the bike and save hundreds??

[@chrismainor]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 it is not a reduction, it actually is a cancellation. which will sum out to flat or as close to flat as possible and if i am correct, that is a setting within the Cicada DSP, so if you flash, then you dont use that setting (obviously)

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@chrismainor Well, However you would like to word it fact of the matter is still the same, a DSP is not needed when installing the caliber of product as we are with my ear tuning every Bike. The Videos we post are the Proof and that it is undisputed.

[@trebailey7850]

been having problems with the bluetooth streamer with my android 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

What brand DSP do you have?

[@GlidinswoleNtactical]

If I get a Dsp do I need a flash doe

[@chrismainor]

Is the Diamond audio DSP a prototype? It does look like a “mock up” What are the specs of it? Looked for the application on the Google store and apple store and nothing Any info to be shared on a product you are showing

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Proto type not yet released, ongoing testing along with two others

[@chrismainor]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 if it is a protoype, that is a like a teaser cause now if the prototype dont work like it didnt work the first time they thought about coming out with it, is like dangling a carrot and never give it

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@chrismainor It will be released soon enough and has nothing to do with the previous DSP

[@johnviera3884]

You tune the channel and then use a passive crossover on the tweeters

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Not sure where your questions leads, technically using a DSP you would eliminate the crossover network that ships with the Diamond Audio Horns.

[@johnviera3884]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 4 channels. 6 drivers. That’s your answer above.

[@MoreBo0st]

Hey maybe you can help me out I would sooo appreciate it. I have a 2020 road glide the same sound digital amp and rockford speakers. So the bike did not come with lower fairing speakers. Where would I get a harness to go from the head unit harness to the fairings? I've tried looking on forums for hours but can't find anything. Any help would be much much appreciated thanks.

[@floydkemp3134]

All and all good video!

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Thanks!

[@The90coupedraggn]

Man where was this video about 2 weeks ago I bought the cicada dsp. And I'm not pleased at all....as stated this unit is huge and trying to put in with my amps (800.4 sd) x2 and also as stated the damn harness coming out of each side is terrible trying not to damage any wires. Overall not very pleased with my purchase....haven't used it yet but....I own it now guess ill use it.... But my question is what are you using to go from HD to amp connection hi level or some kinda converter to low level.....

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Can you send me a picture of the harnesses that came with the DSP to [e-mail] so I can better comment on what you may need, also, on the DSP88 Box does it say 4V or 8V RCA Pre out?

[@The90coupedraggn]

Also note different pic on web page vs. What ya get also i will get those pics sent

[@ryanjohnson1814]

I'd like to ask a question, non business owner, viewer, to learn. I run 4 amps, tm400x2ad, 2, evox 800.4. 1 pvr dsp, in my bike. 2003 fxdl, made a mount for a tour pack, installed tour pack, hard bags, batwing, run 2 batteries. 2, pm282h, , 1 set 6x9 diamond audio horn, msrt1, tweeters, ds18 920 tweeters, 1, 8 inch, w horn euphoria clones, I do not use a radio, Bluetooth receiver, and my phone. Before I used a splitter, to connect 3 amps, wanted to go to 4 amps. And I own a dd1 and a ocilscope. but the dsp, made it easier, 4 me, to connect everything, rca, but honestly dsp, to figure it out, set it right, what a learning experience, still learning. as very difficult calling the mfg, and just trying to get a baseline to use and start with. I still feel, you got to tune the amps, with a dsp, regardless to set gains. And clean. My question is, if I went back to without a dsp, what do you recommend to connect my signal from Bluetooth to all the amps ? the exvox, amps require all 4 input used, even if just bridge for the 400 watt rms. I had to use splitter because the dsp, only had 8 out puts, and I needed 12 outputs. so. I used rca, cable splitters, what can I buy , in my situation ? Suggestions, recommendations? My previous was no dsp, 3 amps, and a 1 in, 3 out splitter I found, but not been a great splitter. As now, the only plus with the dsp, is I can set my gains much higher. Clean. As before, the signal was dirty sooner. Soon I'm adding skar, ix8, 1 in each bag and either a 5th amp. Or 2 ohm , parallel some of my 8 inches. The only function I do like of the dsp, is I can hit a button to shut of a amp or amps. Because I can't run everything when I ride, very long. thank you, if you are able to offer product suggestion for my set up. Or tips.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Ryan, Your request for the type of explanation you are seeking is approximately 100 miles far from the normal question anyone has ever asked of us and to be 100% honest with you if this is in fact an actual real question or someone possibly attempting to manipulate our time going back and forth with a never ending barrage of additional questioning we will simply offer this to you with no re replies even if you respond as we take everything written with a very large question mark - however we suggest you simply take the settings and spec's shown on the boxes of the various product lines of part numbers and input those settings into your DSP as a basis starting point since your question was >>>and just trying to get a baseline to use and start with.

[@djbobbylow270]

I don't have a dog in this fight but it sounds like Larry pissed in your Cereal,but I do think with out a dsp its Distorted at high volume

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

We have no specific ax to grind with him or his brand, only the inconsistencies on what his site shows that further confuses buyers that ultimately flow right to us that ultimately creates an issue where we spend to much of our time attempting to explain all of the inconsistencies along with our position on DSP's / We can say this to you, Every bike that we display in our videos do NOT distort even when the factory radio is at MAX Volume, do we recommend the system be run at max volume? absolutely not and we do not tell customers that they can run to max volume, However I personally tune each and every bike with the 30+ years of experience I have and that max volume with no distortion tuning provides me with that extra cushion of protection so when the customer runs his system three bars from max he is good to go and never has an issue, These amplifiers have all that is needed for an experienced person as myself to fully tune the sound systems we do and guarantee there is not one single person out there listening to any of our videos will say that they can hear distortion - because there is none to hear, so in a totality of everything we show in our videos and what we are saying that is 100% undeniable PROOF that a DSP is not needed or required to be purchased and installed if you are installing an aftermarket sound system "PROPERLY" on a 2014 & Up Harley Davidson / again we are not saying a DSP will not allow the system to sound better nor are we attacking any other seller, forum, web page, etc / We are just providing our opinion on how we view the DSP Harley concern many others have and again its pretty hard to argue against our position when we actually provide the proof in our videos that back up our opinion.

[@djbobbylow270]

Online doesn't sound like in person but if you say so 🤷 I don't install but I know sound and I know what I like and it doesn't sound as good with out, but if you spend all that money what's $300 more doesn't make sense to me

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@djbobbylow270 Play this video on a PC with some halfway decent speakers kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJO5h3-Jjqp0ms0 // 1600 Watts RMS with (2) Soundigital 800.4 EVOX Amps - NO DSP - // Understand as a business a DSP runs $299.00 but you will need a T-Harness, installation & Tuning and that is far from $300.00

[@extremebaggers7817]

Are diAmond audio DSP’s available. Shows out of stock on website

[@samwilson6992]

How do I get the Sound stream Radio for my Harley-Davidson

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

RADIO www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/PPI-hdhu-14-plug-n-play-upgrade-headunit-for-2014-harley-davidson-new

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

THUMB CONTROL www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/handlebar-control-retention-interface-only-for-use-with-hdhu-14-upgrade-headunit

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

IN STOCK / FREE SHIPPING

[@rhinevalleygarage]

What is better the DSR1, Diamond Audio or the HKI mini? Do you sell the Diamond. Audio dsp? Link?

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

HKI MINI In our opinion at this time

[@jpb-go8qh]

I have a stock 2022 head unit, infinity fairing, infinity 6x9 in bags, precision power Amp. The kappa Perfects seam very Brite. I feel I definitely need a DSP! I stream via Spotify, even tried using android EQ, that helps but screws up my sound in a vehicle. Factory bass and treble controls on the HD head unit are no help.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Did you have the factory radio flashed?

[@jpb-go8qh]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 yes

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@jpb-go8qh Which Precision Power Amplifier do you have? is it the MAA4 Harley amp? or which model number

[@jpb-go8qh]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 Yes. I think if I only had an EQ on factory radio I would be fine. I really don't want to swap out to the sound stream radio. A DSP is probably overkill but would work. Maybe a set passive crossovers with a tweeter DB cut?

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@jpb-go8qh We believe if the amplifier is retuned your problem may be resolved, message me [e-mail] and I will respond with tuning instructions that mill help you out

[@blullc3002]

He’s not attacking svn ,so stop it jake from state farm.

[@bigdog3495]

Great video! I’ve got a precision power system with 8 speakers and their amp using the GTS head unit. Loud and clear but lacks midrange bass. Would adding the Soundstream radio with the 13band equalizer improve the sound?

[@welder9966]

Ok I need your help then. I have from American hardbagger a 800wt 4 Chanel diamond audio amp. T harness.. 6.5 hertz up front with separate hertz horns .. 6x9 hertz in bags with separate horns and the Rockford dsr1. I do understand how hard it is to tune the amp. It's loud but I do feel it could be better. So how do I remove the dsr1 and hook it all back up? Then you suggest just getting it flashed or do I leave the dsr1 in and get it flashed to get better performance?

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Are you saying your bike is not flashed? 2014 & up with stock radio?

[@welder9966]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 It is not flashed. They had me install a dsr1 on it instead

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@welder9966 We recommend Flashing the bike 100% / you have the right equipment that will provide you with the sound you are seeking, just the advice you received we do not agree with and that is what we are attempting to avoid with others and this is partial reasoning with our video, it clearly goes against the grain and we realize this, this is a nationwide list of authorized flashing centers, rftech.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1344 Once flashed let us know how your sound is and you may contact us directly [e-mail]

[@nicholasskridla2475]

Honestly it shouldn't be about need or not. just when you spend upwards of $2,000 or more for a 4 speaker set up (including a Rockford Fosgate and Boom audio even) what is another couple hundred dollars for the DSP?

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Couple hundred?

[@nicholasskridla2475]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 yes a couple hundred. You can get a dsp for between $150 and $300. Even if you spend $300, 400, or more. Especially if you are purchasing higher end audio like say Diamond with 4 sets of 6.5s, tweeters in fairing, at least 2 amps, not to mention if you put 8in mid bass drivers in bags and all the proper wiring, and if you upgrade the battery (which you should then) If you are too worried about the extra cost of the dsp then you probably shouldn't be buying all the other gear either. Just my 2 cents.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@nicholasskridla2475 Understood, However at the end of the day our position is that you do not need to do it or have to do it - that is all we are saying - we appreciate the input - Safe Riding

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@nicholasskridla2475 Appreciate the input, however the extra money is not needed to be spent on a DSP and we do not just stack items on a sale to make the end price higher - possibly others do that we have no idea or maybe a DSP is needed with their product selection, again not certain, but it is not needed with our sound systems.

[@qf76mnd15]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 Daytons are 198.00

[@aironsnowboards7534]

I agree that you dont NEED a DSP, especially with the new soundstream radio and its 13 band eq ( after todays lastest update,went from 10 band to 13 band eq). Isnt the owner of Cicada ( Larry) one diamond audios head engineers or top wig....before he quit to start his own company??? his products seem to be very similar to diamond audio

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Was one of several designers yes, there are similarities between the product yes however manufactured in completely different plants in China using completely different quality of materials, that I did not get into and saw no reason to, possibly in the future but at this time it is not necessary.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

The Hate in the comments, we so knew it would happen, how much of that is coming from Cicada?? Come on Larry we have already read what you wrote this morning, cant get all butt hurt because we exposed the deceitful selling practices you show, feel free to film your own KZbin video disputing or actually attempting to provide excuses for your actions.

[@joellongoria2239]

The frequency response for the MSPRO65 is 110 to 10k....how do you give it what it wants to run at its best when then SD amps don't have the ability to band pass? What do you set it at ? Both high pass and low pass go from 45 to 850?

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

99.9% of the bikes we do have MSPRO65 Mids up Front & many have them in the Touring Pak, Every single bike Rocks and every single customer is more than happy - each and every system outperforms any customers expectations, we never said that a DSP would not allow the system to sound better we simply provide our opinion that it is not necessary and we are more than willing to put our sound system up against any other persons or brand sound system that utilizes normal street use vs a bike set up for competition.

[@joellongoria2239]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 that doesn't answer my question...I was just intrested in how you set the amp. Aren't you limited in what you can do just using the amp to set the frequency?...I think using a DSP is up to the customer and not the installer. If you are going to drop good money on a great sounding system you should research and listen live to all options...your videos are great...I enjoy them...im just curious on how you set the lows...

[@joellongoria2239]

Anything on this? How do you set the SD amp for the 6.5?

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@joellongoria2239 Anything on what? I use the 30 Years of experience I have and create all the bikes you see on our KZbin Channel - The PROOF is in what you hear, I do not need to go back and forth debating anything with you

[@joellongoria2239]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 wow...I wasn't debating anything...I am just curious on how you set the amp for the woofers...is it really that hard of a question to answer? Is it a trade secret? Just a curious person asking a simple question...

[@iscruz7769]

Your "you don't need a DSP" line was the reason why I started watching your video, but then I got lost when you started pushing Diamond Audio, specifically their DSP. Ok so, is a DSP needed or not? Or is it that a DSP is not needed unless is a Diamond Audio unit? Sorry, the whole thing sounded biased to me.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

If your factory radio is flashed a DSP is not needed and even if it was not flashed a DSP will NOT compensate for flashing, regarding the different brands we where simply showing a not yet released Diamond Audio DSP that no one has seen yet, it is not available so we are certainly not selling an item we do not have yet, but we put emphasis on Diamond Audio having the smallest DSP available when it arrives into the country.

[@kayo4921]

Hey I need some help I want to put a system on my 2014 Road King CVO 4 speak set-up

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Sure, We can help, please email myself directly at [e-mail] Thank you

[@guidoftc8304]

What wire Harness u use to get ur rca out put?

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

For which amplifier as they are different?

[@guidoftc8304]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 sound digital

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@guidoftc8304 We use this harness for Signal, it is created by us www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/for-14-up-harley-davidson-plug-play-factory-radio-to-amp-connection You will need this harness for remote turn on www.702motoringlasvegas.com/product-page/fairing-power-after-market-accessory-t-harness-for-2014-up-harley-davidson-new Please Flash the factory radio

[@guidoftc8304]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 I'm going in rca not high level

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@guidoftc8304 That is certainly your option, however that moves you into using different types of standard hi lo convertors that others may offer that may or may not work to satisfaction, the link we sent you is how we do it and do not offer another option as with our experience what we offer we know will work, Thank you

[@Rbrcracer]

This video did not prove your point at all. All it did was bash a company and show a bad install.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Really? it appears you missed 70% of the video's message then.

[@Rbrcracer]

Watched the entire video and only reason you gave was the extra cost.

[@Rbrcracer]

Thanks for taking the time to respond .

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@Rbrcracer We also provided our opinion a DSP is in no way needed or necessary

[@jdiding88]

id really appreciate you not saying that all dealerships say the same thing. im at a dealership i do them for people before installs all the time, like multiple a week, before you start saying that everyone does something make sure your accurate.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Pretty sure we do not say that everyone does "something" we have no clue to what everyone else does, it would appear you have taken what we have said out of context

[@wiredkustomsmotorsports]

WHOA

[@davidsparks7424]

.my harley davidson dealer only charged 70 dollars for a reflash😊

[@troycopenhaver5636]

Run separate channels

[@loonatic7296]

Man just speak on the dsp already!

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

We believe we did?

[@ShadowSolja]

You don’t need amps and speakers either.

[@RanGer-498]

Do you meed it ¿probably not, will it help your sound quality? Absolutely. As you can tailor the music you llisten to to your liking much better..from rockfords web site "FEEL YOUR MUSIC LIKE NEVER BEFORE The DSR1 puts the power of DSP fine audio tuning and integration at your fingertips. Whether you're an audio novice or a Rockford Fanatic, the DSR1 gives you better control over your mobile audio system beyond bass and treble adjustments. The DSR1 makes expanding your audio system to premium aftermarket gear a snap!" I currently DO NOT have one on my bike, but i do in my var and the difference to ME is completely different. So do you need one? Maybe not ,will it help with overall spund quality..yes.

[@qf76mnd15]

Me looking from the outside in, either Diamond paid you to do this, or Larry pissed you off some kind of way. If he pissed you off and got you feeling some kind of way, you probably should've just picked up the phone and called him.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

You are missing the whole point of our video - we are not saying that a DSP will not allow our sound systems to sound better, what we are saying is that you do NOT have to use or purchase one in order to use any of our systems. that is all, if you feel different that is OK, it is just a matter of opinion, Lastly, Diamond did not pay us to put anything in this video and if anything stated about Cicada it was taken directly off of his website, that is information he wrote and placed there, not us, nothing was altered or changed, no deception, but it is interesting that cicada website has been down for a few days, maybe he will now take the time and fix all of the errors that where present and further confusing customers, as a business why would we not point out truthful information that was shown on his site especially since it directly created an issue between one of our customers?

[@qf76mnd15]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 Business 101, life 101, before you air something to the public work it out one on one with that person or business. Evidently there’s more to the Cicada thing that you aren’t telling us. Because believe me your bikes aren’t all that to be calling somebody out on a Public Media. So tell us how you really feel, the truth will set you free.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@qf76mnd15 First off don't try to explain to us about business 101 when you yourself hide on a KZbin channel with no content, we really feel like this, you seem to be talking out of your ass making yourself look like a dummy as you try your best to accuse us of various idiotic statements and then attempt to talk down about our Harley Sound Systems, tell you what playa, put your money where your mouth is and show us what you have in your bike that will outperform our systems, we will wait for that link of yours, until then take a hike, if you keep posting stupid comments because you can not handle the truth when it is right there in front of you then we will block you from further commenting, you are a waste of time and in no way helping the Harley Community as we are trying to do

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@qf76mnd15 First off don't try to explain to us about business 101 when you yourself hide on a KZbin channel with no content, we really feel like this, you seem to be talking out of your ass making yourself look like a dummy as you try your best to accuse us of various idiotic statements and then attempt to talk down about our Harley Sound Systems, tell you what playa, put your money where your mouth is and show us what you have in your bike that will outperform our systems, we will wait for that link of yours, until then take a hike, if you keep posting stupid comments because you can not handle the truth when it is right there in front of you then we will block you from further commenting, you are a waste of time and in no way helping the Harley Community as we are trying to do

[@dustylittle9584]

Robot underground of the bike world. Lol

[@melissathompson7229]

Man this video is painful to watch as a professional installer. Next we will be reviewing Boss amps and saying "this amp is 10,000 watts for $89 it blows this XYZ amplifier away" as if all power is created equal. Ive never heard Cicada in person but that argument is something my 16 year old would have with me.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Now you are talking out of your behind, if you do not agree with our opinion then so be it but don't try and put us in a boss audio category, that simply shows your immaturity. At the end of the day you are just another S##T Talker -

[@BigMod167]

I heard Cicada in person for the first time this past Friday at and audio shop. 4 speaker system. 6.5 horns in the fairing, 6x9 horns in the lids. They were pushed by 2 Cicada DSP amps. Next to it was a fresh install of diamond audio. It was an 8 speaker system. Horns in the fairing and lowers. 8in midbass drivers in the lids with a tweeter. What I heard had me quickly making the decision to switch over to Cicada. They both sound better than what I was working with. But that damn Cicada.... I was blown away by the clarity, the loudness, and how deep the speakers played. Absolutely phenomenal.

[@BigMod167]

I forgot to add that the diamond audio system did not have a DSP. The guys that build at this particular shop also agree that every bike doesn't need a DSP.

[@melissathompson7229]

Well sure you don't technically NEED a DSP....but ask any credible shop and I assure you they will explain the benefits of using one

[@BigMod167]

@@melissathompson7229 most certainly. I will not have a set up without one.

[@donovanphoenix8322]

Where can I find the the diamond audio dsp at

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

As of this time you can not as we are in the testing phase with the item,

[@donovanphoenix8322]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 thank you for the information, what about the dsp mini

[@aironsnowboards7534]

His website is now taken down btw....lol

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Wow, OK, Interesting....

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Probably needs a DSP on his Website ...

[@aironsnowboards7534]

Lol. Now that’s funny.

[@johngoens7881]

You made this video about one company! I thought it was supposed to be about dsp

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

It is about a DSP - it just so happens that during the preparation of this video many inconsistencies about cicada became visible to us that will ultimately effect negatively on the customers that consider purchasing that brand and as you can see by the video the inconsistences and plain what we would consider to be untruthfulness became more prevalent to us and it simply escalated from there. The statements about cicada became at the very end of the video it is in no way the controlling factory of the video, we felt we should make this information available to buyers across the Globe vs not showing what we see and perceive from the information shown on cicadas website and various other cicada provided material of information

[@chippsterstephens6800]

Cliff notes . Yes get dsp. Don’t be stupid.

[@scottlint7016]

Haha. You are a meter guy. Meters don't mean shit. No wonder clowns out here sound distorted. They think louder is better because of guys like this

[@BlackEyeSRT]

Look we got a heckler boys who knows it all just because your videos show the db you're the reason everyone's blowing there equipment. How does that make sense 🤔 dude go do something else with your time

[@scottlint7016]

@@BlackEyeSRT what u just said doesn't make any sense. I've had a dsp on my systems for years. And I don't use cheap diamond audio stuff. Shops that sell that are only doing it because of the margin they get. Pay attention clown

[@BlackEyeSRT]

@@scottlint7016 you're obviously out of your realm buddy anyone who knows something about audio understands that diamonds pro audio is high quality is it the best no and no 1 said it's the best, buy for the price point it's at its trumps the rest of the audio available at that price point.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Tell you what Slick, you sure talk the talk but do you have any clue to what you are even saying?? doubtful, or how about you send us a link to your bike? Playa???

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@scottlint7016 Really? Cheap? well here is another call out, show us what you have or STFU with your wanna be shit talking

[@mrshooff2]

In my opinion the dsp is the root cause of the noise issues but please don't say it out loud

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Interesting, we do not have any noise issues?

[@mrshooff2]

I've done everything from proper size ofc wire ground the battery to the bike set the gains with a meter and o scope ofc rcas all the joints are soldered trying to hold on to my dsr1 and its the source of my noise at idle to low volume.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@mrshooff2 What year bike? Did you flash the factory radio if using one? What amp and model numbers are you using? What exact speakers are you using?

[@qf76mnd15]

Don't worry it's has nothing to do with the DSP,

[@chrismainor]

Sound like you need to put that shop from Cali on blast Say the name

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

We prefer not to - its not the kind of drama we are looking for.

[@SmittybuiltHD]

Completely understand your position, but you might be saving many others from a nightmare.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@SmittybuiltHD Yep, it is a double edged sword no matter how you look at it

[@supakamario]

u named video why ibdont need a dsp, then went on a 35 minute rant about 1 company I've never even heard of and don't care about. u should've made a diff video called EF cicada. would have saved me time and put urself in a better light

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Appreciate the input -

[@extremebaggers7817]

This is a Cicada rip video. Leaned nothing about dsp

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

You learned that a DSP is NOT needed to create an Awesome sounding Harley System

[@extremebaggers7817]

@@702motoringlasvegas4 no I didn’t. Most of us start with four speakers add more speakers And his DSP maybe not the best design But I’m sure loving his speakers. Are there better speakers on the market most likely but you’re just knocking someone down who is trying to do his own thing and it would’ve been OK and a four minute video but you drag this on for ever which turns it into a personal grudge video no matter what you say and I have bought many things from you and this is below you.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@extremebaggers7817 We explained in detail a current issue we experienced with his product along with a very real customer issue due to his product and brought to the attention of unsuspecting consumers all of the back and forth inconsistencies in all documentation found in the website, instructions, etc, etc, Not to mention the differences in specs sold and item received- all of that is no less then what some people will call consumer fraud So yes you can bet 100% we will bring those issues to light especially when the issues creates an issue between us and one of our customers

[@daveh.8488]

Nothing, but a Cicada trashing video... At least be honest with what you're doing.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

100% Honest as shown to your very own eyes, one amp sure, now go ahead and install a second amp, your remark is 100% out of context to the information provided.

[@donearl6675]

🤣😂👍❗

[@johnlhughes1260]

You talk to much. Get to the point bro.

[@eliteaudioinstallations4242]

Your logic is flawed on several things here PERIOD!

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

Negative, Our Logic is clearly explained in detail, just because it may not agree with your narrative or agenda does not mean it is flawed, it is very simple, you DO NOT NEED A DSP WHEN INSTALLING A SOUND SYSTEM ON A HARLEY DAVIDSON MOTORCYCLE / PERIOD

[@eliteaudioinstallations4242]

@702 Motoring Las Vegas using your logic you don't need all your teeth to eat steak 😜 but it would be much better if you did LOL do your thing hey I'm not trying to change your mind just providing another perspective 😉

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@eliteaudioinstallations4242 Your comparison is not a relative comparison, every Harley sound system we complete in our business is posted on KZbin, "EVERY" Sound System we complete far exceeds costumers expectations, understand we are building rider bikes, NOT bikes solely for competition, could a DSP allow our systems to sound better, certainly a little bit, but why charge a customer a extra $300 for a DSP & $200 to tune it when the sound system already exceeds what they expect? / THIS is what we focus and comment on, myself personally as the owner of 702 Motoring, the other guys in the industry using DSP's on "Rider Bikes" is possibly related to the fact that they are using inferior speakers that probably need the dsp in order for the system to sound good, we use Diamond Audio and we feel we do not need a DSP and it appears "Our" customers also agree and they appreciate not having to spend the extra 500 + Dollars

[@eliteaudioinstallations4242]

@702 Motoring Las Vegas Look if that's how you guys roll that's how you roll, I'm just glad that you know a DSP can make the systems sound better which was my point... as long as that's understood do your thing 👌🏽 . Now the comments about inferior speakers doesn't really make sense but everyone has an opinion. Diamond Audio, Ground Zero, Beyma, Euphoria Xpert, Hertz and every speaker on the planet will sound better with a dsp hands down. I understand that riders that don't really know about Audio don't understand how much better their systems would sound. I just hope you offer it to your customers 🙂. Wish you much more success just this the general statements are misleading to those who don't know much about audio.

[@702motoringlasvegas4]

@@eliteaudioinstallations4242 The statements we made in that video are 100% honest, ethical and truthful especially when they include a manufacture providing incorrect detailed contradictory information to consumers in the industry that in effect causes us to work harder when working with these potential customers. But at the end of the day this part of the video or many others you had no concern for, your main concern was the fact that we say you DO NOT NEED a DSP when installing a Harley Davidson Sound System, Interesting Indeed