You don’t need a new PC - AtlasOS E-Waste PC refresh

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Old PC hardware always feels like it gets slower, but it doesn’t - It’s the SOFTWARE! Let’s refurbish some obsolete e-waste and make it into an inexpensive gaming machine!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:56 Meet the obsolete big box store PC
2:29 The CPU
4:10 The RAM
5:25 The Power Supply
7:39 The Storage
8:38 SATA DATA or SATA DATA
8:54 The GPU
10:14 The OS
10:31 Meet the Vero
14:13 Let's get gaming
15:12 Atlas OS
18:44 Outro

[@Malazim]

That moment when their old system is 4-6 years newer than your PC.

[@frogdog3600]

You need a new pc.

[@priestesslucy3299]

​@@frogdog3600 depends on what they do with it

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@priestesslucy3299 Read the comment. They need a new PC lol.

[@frenzyfixes5827]

@@ZackSNetwork we read the comment, if it satisfies their needs then do they really need to upgrade? Intel’s CPUs we’re stagnant for a while when AMD wasn’t competition. Meaning a lot of their old tech is still perfectly useable today. I’ve been using an Ivy Bridge i7 and I’m happy with it.

[@WohaoG]

That moment when their "Slow" CPU and RAM speed & amount is better than yours(8GB 2666Mhz Ram, 3.0Ghz CPU)

[@laml545]

That moment when you're thinking "nice let's see how they'll make very old and crap PCs work" and the setup they use is basically what your current PC is

[@zuberk8812]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@di57inct]

😂😂

[@pigeon_9161]

That gpu is quite a bit better than mine 😭

[@Obalanserad]

Better than mine. 😅

[@suchiman123]

Even worse if your current PC has a i5-4670K

[@gasparzuker]

I have an i7-2600 PC and it works perfectly fine up to this days! SSD's do magic in old processors

[@9852323]

I think the computer in the video is basically a modern computer. People who watch videos and check email arent gonna tell the difference between an i9 and a 1st Gen i5 so it’s just a waste of money. Even gaming is possible on 2nd and 3rd Gen i7.

[@randomgamingin144p]

@@9852323 well i would be able to tell the difference with a 1st gen i5... but a 4th gen i7 is a different story, thats what im using on my main system and it gets 0% cpu doing most things in windows 11

[@ZajaxFilms]

Heads up - I had that same cpu and you can grab one of those $150 beelink mini PCs and get the same performance without the extra power draw

[@joshe2420]

@@9852323 I have a 3570 and an rx570 that I built up for like 100usd a few months ago, great for gaming as of now, just thinking of going to 16gb of ram since it's running cs2 on 90% ram

[@otrocanalpedorrodeyt6016]

​@@9852323and I can confirm that, I got a core I7 2600k and is really good, not the best and newest performance, but still really good, and with my old 1060 3gb, 16 gb of ram and an ssd of 1 tb runs pretty well (also if you can, get an ssd with Dram, make things much better than the Dram-less ones on gaming) I play some simulators on it and holds up pretty well for the kind of pc it is

[@ljungan96]

I just realized my PC case is 11 years old. Bought my first case and started building my first PC in 2012. It was a Fractal Design Define R4. I was 16 years old and had my first summer job. Bought all my components with the first money I earned myself. I think it was an GTX 660. But hard to remember. To this day I still have the same case and just replaced the PC's components. Now it's 13700K with an 4070 TI but still the same case. Idk if that is weird to have the same case for that many years.

[@nocturn9x]

Not weird at all. Cases just tend to last, like PSUs

[@aironwhite6533]

Cases are just the frame to put parts in. You always invest in a great case that would be able to handle all the parts and certainly hard drives you may install including gps and extra fans.

[@GamerBryce]

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it bub

[@jancovanderwesthuizen8070]

I just helped a family member revive a PC from 2004. Basically all internals are new but the case still screams early 2000s. It was actually pretty decent to build in

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

My PC is about 12 years old. The only thing I have replaced since I built the computer is the hard drive. I put in an SSD. The computer works fine for me. I can cruise the internet, watch videos, work on genealogy, do word processing, digitize analog audio sources and clean them up, download files, and do a lot of these things simultaneously. I have had dozens of browser windows open at the same time. I have 8GB of RAM, but I have to work really hard to gag it. It's in a huge Cooler Master case with room to add a lot more drives inside, but I've had bad experiences in the past. About 20 years ago, I had a computer stuffed with hard drives, and it sounded like an airplane taking off when I turned on the power. I got tired of the noise and went with external hard drives that could sit further away from me. I now have a JBOD with 8 drives in it, each being 14TB. I have a lot of files, everything I've ever worked on or downloaded since 1989. I haven't lost a single file and never had a trojan or virus because of my safe computing habits. As far as old cases go, I still have my computers from 1992 and 1995, and one or two later ones that aren't dated.

[@styles234]

I love videos about old hardware. It gives scrapyard wars vibes and that tinkering with older hardware to put together an experience that wouldn’t be possible any other way (probably for a kid or someone just starting to dabble with PC gaming).

[@aared]

That was my exact thought when he suggested reselling the monitor and keyboard that came in the bundle

[@barbiefan3874]

Be aware that Atlas OS is disabling UAC, ALL software will be running with Admin privileges. Also they disable MS Defender. Atlas OS is a security nightmare in hands of a user who doesn't know what they are doing.

[@gharren]

While it might be true (and I agree that disabling UAC by default is a bad move in any case), I don't think Atlas OS is really targeted towards casual users.

[@antikommunistischaktion]

​@@gharren Guess who the primary users are likely to be? Casual users who can't afford to upgrade their PC. This entire video needs to be redone with the AtlasOS part replaced with Linux.

[@gharren]

@@antikommunistischaktion Can't afford to upgrade = casual?

[@antikommunistischaktion]

@@gharren Yes, because a casual is likely going to have money dedicated elsewhere. You don't upgrade your PC to keep with current hardware trends as a casual, you stick with older and/or budget hardware, and there's nothing wrong with that.

[@silverlinegaming3933]

@@antikommunistischaktionso for like my Dell optiplex I should just stick with windows 10 even though the dang thing uses like 2 to 4gb of my 16gb of ram leaving me with only 12gb to work with? Cause I have been thinking of upgrading to a more modern intel setup for 500$ with the 10th to 12th gens.

[@joeblische6087]

That is my favorite PC activity rebuilding old but still very usable PCs. I don't game or do much editing but love to build and upgrade with spare part. thank yo for all the great video's.

[@shriramvenu]

i still have my gaming pc from 2012 with me going strong. Granted i upgraded the GPU once, increased the RAM to 16GB, and had to replace the motherboard once (identical model swap out). and its on its 3rd PSU. but I can still use it for work, youtube and 1080p gaming just fine. an overclocked i7 3770k and a gtx 1070 can really take you very far.

[@xyueta]

Hey! Atlas Dev here, we are appreciated to be noticed on LTT! Most of the issues were fixed in the latest release that has just been released.

[@nonumfrancis3109]

Have never heard of you until now, will definitely be be checking y'all out!

[@JohnPaulBuce]

great

[@codyssmith73]

Hey there. Is it possible to dualboot AtlasOS onto a MacBook Pro? JW.

[@bwimtg]

AND it's open source?? i love you guys! i am looking forward to trying out atlas! can i ask you why the spectre/meltdown patches are disabled in it?

[@augustoalvarez6766]

It's a bot, guys. There is like a 1000 comments like this already.

[@greanhare5270]

Scrapyard Wars was some of your most important content and I'm glad to see the repurposing and restoration aspect of those videos coming back. I hope to see more of it.

[@Plain--Jane]

right? i love getting to know about current hardware, but videos that are budget oriented are so especially relevant for so many people these days

[@bozleyangling]

@@Plain--Jane this.

[@98SE]

I used to love Scrapyard Wars, I wish LMG would do that again!

[@Dr.Spatula]

The content never left. You just stopped watching it. They've never stopped doing budget and used PCs

[@savagekiller99]

Any info on any future scrapyard wars content? I watched the old ones around 10 times each, they are amazing and the best content LTT has ever done

[@ontil68]

Soooo... for anyone wondering... you ALL saved me from making a mistake! 👏👏 i thought about messing with atlasos... but i won't now... 😅😅😅😅 the comment section was actually nice to me for once... Good on all of you!!❤

[@Lightingkid2010]

they are being so hard on linus for one little mistake, and uac slows down your PC, not like people always click on yes anyway, and you could just turn off the run as admin in properties, and only install from trusted sources

[@kllause6681]

@@Lightingkid2010 no they are being very reasonably hard. LTT has an astronomically large viewer base in terms of the tech-sphere, a lot of people who watch LTT are even people who might not be as tech savvy as others. The fact they did such a surface level overview of this OS without going over any of the potential issues and hazards/dangers it comes with is incredibly irresponsible.

[@julianorozco5201]

@@king_kunk but can you run steam and other games on linux? like i heard years ago that most games werent compatible with linux. is that true=?

[@axandraalex5869]

@@julianorozco5201 You can run steam. Some games however don't run on linux, namely valorant, honkai star rail, and any other game that have aggressive anti-cheat and/or DRM.

[@Gigachad-yt9qt]

@@julianorozco5201late but it’s not true anymore 90% of windows games can be run through wine and proton on Linux. The only ones that can’t be run are some games with anti cheat that doesn’t support Linux (R6, Fortnite, FighterZ, etc)

[@unknown-x-1777]

I was dealing with that issue for a year, I did cmd nfs /scan Also did start up repair and finally I was able to properly shut down and I didn't have problems booting up and loading windows. Before that I was also dealing with the computer turning on in the middle of the night.

[@ClLouID]

I appreciate these more "grounded" videos that appeal to most of us watching. The experiments are fun but it's awesome to see you produce stuff that's relatable to systems that a bunch of people might still be using

[@simdaydreamer5239]

Not sure it's "grounded". Person calls relatively new machine "e-waste" while updating most of hardware. I'm not even talking about using that software "debloater" which also makes security updated non-functional. I can use win7 on my old machine with similar success.

[@Flipchu]

@@simdaydreamer5239 I mean, they did say MORE "grounded", not completely.

[@realJimMarshall]

I tend to watch these "more grounded" videos than the tech news videos. I tend to find them more enjoyable.

[@angelcarrillo980]

I still have my lil' XP laptop as a smile factory, even if it is practically lagging on wordpad at this point.

[@user-jo6ip2qc7i]

Yeah dude. I admit that Im really tired of vídeos for rich people. Most of us are broke af

[@VulpineDemon]

I'd love a full declutter video for people that do want to use Windows, without the bloat. I'm fairly techy but miss a lot of really small things because Windows buries it in small submenus.

[@c0mplex564]

And have Anthony host the episode

[@SuperTort0ise]

What you don't like opening 20 menus from windows XP all the way to 11???

[@ytateir6882]

Was looking for something like this, and maybe even better than a video, some form of written guide/checklist of stuff that can be removed. Don't want to go to the step of AtlasOS, but surely you should be able to achieve some of the performance gains with some "manual" labour

[@realemmyrossum]

They just showed you atlas OS

[@jiminysnicket86]

Search functionality is your friend

[@flacodoom]

Great video! I've always believe that you don't almost never need top of the top or even 2-3 years past hardware... if money is an issue you can afford an used configuration like this exposed here! Thanks 4 sharing.

[@DGneoseeker1]

3 years? Pfft. I'm still using a Core i7 920 from 2008.

[@BlueXonar]

As a retro hardware enthusiast, I am SUPER interested to hear more about AtlasOS. I'm sure you are planning a deep dive on it before too long, I can't wait!

[@kllause6681]

from what other comments are saying, LTT apparently only did a VERY surface level run-down and didnt even touch on how dangerous this OS can be to use because of all the features it removes (one thing being UAC, which means any program you have is automatically run as administrator, which is veryyyy bad) the OS in it's current state is practically a breeding ground for malware. In fact some have stated that its just as dangerous to use as something like windows XP... so uhh yeah... dont download it unless u know exactly what ur doing lol. and even then this can still be super dangerous to use.

[@RafaMazurekRMZ]

@@kllause6681 do you think that running it as only game machine with steam and battle net as only apps should be fine? I do proves internet on other hardware

[@meetoo594]

@@kllause6681For a non networked emulation box or the like its fine but yeah, going anywhere near the internet on AtlasOS is just asking for trouble.

[@Pancajayna]

@@kllause6681 windows XP was dangerous? AHAHAHA

[@Manhackarcadeisfun]

@@Pancajayna No its dangerous now.

[@planarian1772]

it's crazy, back in 2017-2018 all I've had to worry about was how to upgrade my gaming PC to the next level with the money I had... Now, things have changed. I have the money but priorities change. Thanks for being there all the way Linus.

[@nonotanymore]

Good videos about cheaper options are always so welcome, most ppl vicariously live through your higher end videos but having these real guides to competent low end builds are so valuable to your viewerbase

[@TippyHippy]

I put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture

[@kunj5802]

​@@TippyHippyWhy???😢

[@just_HAZEN]

​@Kunj don't feed the trolls

[@nonotanymore]

@@TippyHippy awwwwwwwwwe thats so sweet

[@kunj5802]

@@just_HAZEN Ok 👍,Got it.

[@LasiruMaheerathna]

I had this processor in my previous PC (which died due to a static issue ruining the motherboard). It was an absolute workhorse. I covered close to 200 times more than it costed to build that PC with the work I did in it, unfortunately It didn't have enough power to edit RED Raw on the fly without using proxies. It stayed with me for 5 years until in late 2021 I upgraded to a 12 gen.

[@mynameisjoejeans]

Great video, covered a lot of important points here. Cheers fellas.

[@me2olive]

I'd suspect most of that "performance improvement" in Atlas comes from disabling Defender and Spectre/Meltdown mitigations, i.e. those aren't "fixable" in a future release if you still want those performance improvements. What I'd prefer is a way to disable all of those on the fly without a reboot, so you can game, then instantly switch back to a more secure system when you're done.

[@ozzyloaded]

This sounds perfect!

[@littlemac5942]

Yes well done ♥

[@kachinn07]

thats wrong i totally deleted windows defender from my system and after windows 10 update windows defender comeback, you can allways "repair" your windows and bring all the services back if you need those

[@happyskeg1]

Would have been nice if they actually got into the os, and what it does. Total waste of time

[@ElNeroDiablo]

​@@kachinn07 Disabled does not mean Deleted. AtlasOS can re-enable the Spectre/Meltdown mitigations with a command script as those mitigations aren't removed from the OS but rather not turned on by default.

[@fish_kingdom135]

Just wanted to say thank you all for everything you have helped me so much with my PC and helped me learn a lot on electronics

[@cyberredpandas1903]

Personally I've found that an old office pc with a few inexpensive upgrades can work really well for playing older games. It's definitly not for everyone but as someone who collects physical pc games, I've gotten more than my moneys worth.

[@JohnZoetebier]

As at happens, bought an Aspire Vero with Intel I7 CPU and 16 Gb RAM on Amazon AU a few months ago. Liked it so much that we bought a second Acer Vero laptop. Check last month and discovered Acer had increased the price with 50%. Looks like they are very popular.

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

As the local SI, I regularly build systems like this to offer an ultra-budget option for people. I make hardly more than a few dollars but I've had many customers come back 6mo to a year later to buy a proper system from me. For a lot of people, a system like this is plenty for their needs until they are ready to invest more heavily. It's also nice for someone considering switching to PC gaming from consoles as the investment is very low.

[@victorkreig6089]

This practice also keeps a lot of older tech alive that would otherwise have already been destroyed We didn't know how good we had it in the 90's and a lot of amazing stuff just ended up being destroyed because we decided not to repurpose it or keep using it in other capacities; it's all gone now. Never know how much we might get screwed over by newer hardware and software so it's good to keep this stuff truckin

[@swiiishgin1515]

these type of builds got me into "flipping" pcs. like you, I dont make much, but I enjoy the process and getting more people into pc gaming

[@FaZekiller-qe3uf]

AtlasOS disables UAC and runs all programs as Administrator. It also disables vulnerability mitigations as briefly shown on screen. You’d think they’d care at all about security after being hacked.

[@octoberfiregaming]

Absolutely this. Disabling security features like this is a Big Risk(tm). I suppose, if it was never connected to the Internet, it'd be fine, but otherwise ... nope.

[@GonePh1shing]

Not to mention they disabled windows defender, all malware removal tools, and all security updates. Anyone installing this OS on an internet connected machine is just begging to be hacked...

[@user-yy8go2nb1q]

@@ethanwasme4307 Lol what??? Are you time traveling here from 2006? They have 50% market share and use the same signature databases as "premium" AV software. Other AV try to convince you to pay for something you can get for free by adding bloatware like ad blockers and browser addons to track you and keep you safe. I only recommend paid solutions to completely computer illiterate people who either need to have those extra hoops to jump through before they ruin something or if they just want peace of mind because they don't understand the concept of antivirus being free.

[@Gabriel_Micah]

@@ethanwasme4307 ???

[@PRO_OF_MC]

@@user-yy8go2nb1q best antivirus is common sense

[@Stabu]

One thing I would really love to see is the replacing of Phillips screws with Torx screws. Torx tools are found everywhere and it's nuts that we still use Phillips although it's well known that they strip and slip, especially when used with power tools, than almost any other known screw type.

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

Screws with the square hole work well with power drivers. I used to work for Hatteras Yachts, and that's the only kind they use in building million dollar yachts.

[@juniordouw6681]

Linus: "Old pc" Me: "basically my everyday pc"

[@tyrannicpuppy]

Gotta say, that recylced plastic laptop looks nicer to me than the piano black of the old tower. Not everything needs to be super shiny or made of machined metals. I really like the tiny chips of colour in amidst the grey. I would love to see more of that in the tech space.

[@RunedGolem1]

For laptops I prefer metal cases just because they’re generally stronger and more resilient than plastic one in my experience.

[@SecretSauceyjuice]

​@@RunedGolem1it's true that plastic tends to be brittle and fail in thin unsupported areas or hard impacts while most metals tend to bend and distort significantly more before failing completely. However, with the right formulation plastics *can* be fairly resilient and will tend to spring back to their original shape better than metal as long as the force isn't enough to pass into that shatter zone. I do agree that metal is superior, but plastic isn't a deal breaker if done correctly.

[@shadowsandfire]

Would love to see more of it in every space!

[@masutafuyu]

Did anyone notice the backwards R?

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

@@RunedGolem1 plastic laptop can be durable if it's thick enough, look at old ibm keyboards, they are sturdier than modern aluminum laptops

[@bigthiccboi137]

I just wanna say this channel is really a lifesaver for beginner builders. Linus and his staff always work at the ground level constantly checking resellers and used hardware prices to give their viewers good advice to afford a decent rig. Been watching for years and I’m always impressed by their integrity and ability to keep up with KZbin’s ever changing trends.

[@Hybris51129]

The problem is that they tend to push the idea of being a "carrot chaser". By having the bare minimum spec parts the slightest increase in performance requirements need a new generation of "cheap" parts and pretty soon the money spent constantly keeping your head above water could have been better spent on a top end part at the start and would net you not only a better experience but a longer useful service life as well.

[@jack5mikemotown]

@@Hybris51129 builds like this are practical, not everyone has the capital to go buy the latest and greatest. yes this is not the best system but it is environmentally friendly, cost efficient, and a great starting point for someone who needs it.

[@kusucks991]

@@Hybris51129 Yeah it's kinda personal preference I guess. This is why I go for the top of the line at the time, and then run it into the ground (8+ years). For instance......I went straight from DDR2 to DDR4, lol

[@Hybris51129]

@@jack5mikemotown The thing is that you can get the top end parts and save in the long run with a bit saving up. That is a dirty concept for most people but it's the hard mathematical truth when you start to break down the costs over the course of 5-7+ year between major rebuilds. That is both better fiscally and environmentally.

[@zeroa69]

​@@kusucks991 i agree with building the best you can model. If it werent for a faulty Monster surge protector that shit itself and started power cycling the rig while my gf was playing id still be rocking a top end build from 2015.

[@tbfam569]

My i5 2500k is still rocking with my msi mainboard, my daughter is still playing game with it, one time the thermal paste was so old for a year and it kept restarting, spent couple dollar for new thermal paste, works like new again, intel chip may not be the fastest but it’s reliable like a Toyota!

[@cxa24]

I really wish you were more like us; I hope things improve for your platform

[@CasualGameDev]

This video makes me miss Scrapyard wars, but I understand how hard it can be to make those videos. It would be great if you guys kept doing these kind of budget/refurbishing videos

[@CasualGameDev]

Also I can confirm on these older CPUs, that reducing the background applications significantly reduces stutter in certain titles. I have the i5-6500, and it was basically unusable for CSGO and Fortnite. I got a beta bios, overclocked to 4.2GHz, and then reinstalled windows, making sure to remove clutter and disable windows defender(only recommended for experienced users). This brought ALOT more life into my CPU. Maybe you guys could make a video about overclocking non-k skylake if you haven't already?

[@markodriscoll3660]

Scrapyard wars was super cool....I had a bunch of old pcs that I got from my job at the time and that series had me coming up with all sorts of fun experiments to do with them....even managed to blow a couple of old dell 6600 optimums up. Bring back scrap yard wars....and Anthony should be on every episode. Love you Anthony! =) Also the 6600 optimums can take an obscene amount of abuse....value for money right there

[@CasualGameDev]

@@markodriscoll3660 Anthony on SYW would be epic, was he in any of the previous ones? I don't remember

[@killer147896325]

Or the secret shopper/ tech support calls again

[@Big007Boss]

Scrapyard wars should comeback with the new staff, with Linus and Luke as judges only

[@amrazh]

Gotta say, I like this kind of content. Nothing is more painful to me than getting rid of old hardware knowing it's destiny is the landfill - which is why I have a small collection of my old PC's and laptops running lightweight OS's for a few different uses around the house. Good stuff LTT.

[@Slane583]

I still have my old i5 3350P and ASRock Z75 board stored away in a tote. The cpu, board and ram are all perfectly useable they're just not up to snuff for a lot of modern stuff. I hate throwing away computer parts as well especially if they have sentimental value attached to them. The oldest motherboard I own is my old Socket-A MSI gaming board that housed my AMD Athlon XP 2400+. Back when Nvidia still made chipsets for motherboards. :)

[@ScullyMD-jt1bn]

My PC is circa 2011 most of the components. My motherboard is from 16. So it even has m.2 support and I'm using an fx-8350. And my PC is still working great. When I build a new one, this one will end up being a media PC.

[@Jackie89000]

The CPU and fan that came with my pre-built i bought a while back are the only parts i havent upgraded. The I5 9600kf and stock intel fan and heat sink manages to keep my CPU at around 50°c with Satisfactory on full graphics at 2560x1440 and 60fps. I have a much better cooler for it but havent bothered to install it as it has yet to overheat from any of my games so far. Ill probably save the cooler until i finally upgrade the CPU (hopefully not for a while).

[@amarioguy]

As someone who actively reverse engineers Windows on a frequent basis: Do not use AtlasOS if you care about security and reliability. It breaks core parts of Windows (the component store being the most egregious one, that's very difficult to repair) and disables security measures that contrary to what people might spread, are actually pretty good ideas to have. Also, not having updates is a pretty big L right there as much as people rail against Windows Updates. more pertinent though is that breaking the component store also breaks other parts of windows in very subtle ways that can't be repaired w/o a reinstall. Edit: i looked at it some more. It's so. so. so. so. much worse than what i thought. like removing absolutely very critical, "things you use everyday" components bad. Removing things like the kernel debugger, memory diagnostic tester, RDP, Windows Hello. Disabling things like DMA remapping (which has seriously improved security in many many situations) and breaking critical components by removing critical registry keys. It's bad. Very much so. Edit 2: A friend and I checked again to see if there was anything I missed, and oh dear god I didn't think it could get worse. Reports of people's EFI system partitions being busted and bitlocker prompting recovery upon install (with no warning to suspend it by the installer despite it making these breaking changes!!) (Source: github.com/Atlas-OS/Atlas/issues/731) with devices that have BitLocker on (this is more devices than you think! The "device encryption" in Settings is BitLocker in the background). Reports of TPMs being wiped (or more likely TPM measurements invalidated by either BCD or system changes, specifically PCR7 which Windows seals the decryption key to). The fact installing this mod is enough to even potentially cause this kind of stuff which is not only scary as hell, but can *genuinely* lead to data *loss* if the person doesn't have a recovery key on hand or never backed it up or doesn't know it exists. All because the program does not mandate that bitlocker be temporarily disabled before it makes its changes. The potential corruption of the EFI system partition is bad by itself too. Not to mention it changes the boot configuration to disable the hypervisor and sets load options (one of which is no longer respected due to it's setting being in registry/system integrity policy nowadays) to disable isolated LSASS (meaning user secrets can now be read from normal kernel mode instead of being siloed safely) and virtualization based security, all of which can potentially invalidate the sealed bitlocker key, forcing recovery. Edit 3: found a list of things that will invalidate Windows's seal on PCR7 - learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/bitlocker/bitlocker-recovery-guide-plan (Section: What causes BitLocker recovery?) My take on this mod: do not use it, do not think about using it. Stay far far away from it. It's disappointing to see this being promoted as widely as it is.

[@Verindae]

Like i said in my own post, it also disables UAC and runs everything with Admin privilege by default. It's about as compromised as a functional OS can get and should never be anywhere near an active internet connection. The fact this is just glossed over is really concerning.

[@thecatontheceiling]

ReviOS aims at compatibility and is designed to avoid as many issues like these as possible, you seem to be very knowledgeable and I want to know your opinion about them too

[@BrodieRobertson]

All of that is baby stuff when you consider UAC is disabled out the box

[@philipmrch8326]

@@BrodieRobertson Hey! Look who it is.

[@cristivpopescu]

@@BrodieRobertson explain to me why you need UAC if you are a discerning user who doesn't run any programs without vetting them first. I hate UAC, the first thing i do when installing windows, disable UAC. It's pointless, and anyone non-discerning automatically clicks yes anyway

[@StopThePCAP]

Regarding AtlasOS, be very careful when meddling with this. If you really intend on using it, do not use it for browsing, illegitimate unknown downloads / installers. Their statement "security updates aren't removed, there's just currently no way to "get new ones" as for mitigations, you are prompted to enable or disable them in AME Wizard and you can disable or enable them while in atlas". There are constantly new critical Windows vulnerabilities getting discovered, these are then actively used in the wild. Your AtlasOS will from the start be at a major risk. Same with the disabling of security services such as Defender by default, you'll want some safeguard anyway. So that load will come back to bite you. @Linus - Please be careful in endorsing them without making these caveats even more clear than a slide containing a few of them. As they'll use you for marketing, and non-security minded people can get in trouble because of it.

[@gambitgaming2379]

If you don't visit sketchy sites then you ain't getting no virus

[@ezikhoyo]

I too wrote a comment about the security converns I have. I am honestly very disappointed that LTT, the company that seemingly gives so much about their viewers, advises to using software that essentially leaves you completely exposed with an OS that has critical security flaws. Just the fact that they removed Windows Defender in it's entirety is a HUGE red flag. I expected A LOT more from LTT as a company and from Linus personally. Not sure whether he isn't informing himself on the stuff that he in the end recommends or some new rookie wrote the script, without checking the actual implications of what Atlas does but this is not what I know LTT for.

[@AbdulMoiz-km9oh]

Agreed

[@altamashkhanattish5782]

I think all of these comments where they write AtlasOS at the start are bots. Probably this is Microsoft using AI to discourage people from using this?

[@FaZekiller-qe3uf]

They disabled UAC and run everything as administrator.

[@HappyQuailsLC]

I'd love to see the HP Firebird 803 reinvigorated even though I know it lacks subsequent dual graphics card drivers, limiting its use to the Win95-98 gen of OSs. BUT if the cards might be swapped out with compatible drivers with subsequent Win7 onward OS compatability, that would be great!

[@Mzansi74]

I've been using my AMD Ryzen 7 2700X since 2018. The only things I changed are additional RAM and SSD/HDD. It is doing everything that I need and it is quite nippy compared to many current PCs. A PC often can be useful for 10 years. And if you run Linux, even longer.

[@peterliu9135]

Would be really nice if you guys can do a deep dive into atlusOS with testings, bechmarks for games, common software, and productivity stuff (3D softwares, Adobe suite) etc

[@SilverWolfPL]

^^

[@Jenkem254]

AtlasOS is not that good if you're not using it only for gaming. It just breaks too much by disabling and removing core components. I tried several of these slimmed down windows versions and settled for ReviOS since it gets rid of any bloat but the most important thing is that I havent run into any compatibility issues like on AtlasOS for example. Also you can simply enable windows updates through their included manager if thats what you like.

[@wiking793]

If you really need a private and bloatware free system then imo you're better off with some windows-like Linux like Linux Mint or Zorin. Security wise it is way better than modified Windows

[@tiggybits]

​@@wiking793 Except when something breaks instantly and you need to spend 3 hours googling how to fix something only to be told "Go to the terminal and type..." We have no idea what it's doing. I want to like Linux and replace Windows but it's just not there yet.

[@wiking793]

@@tiggybits unless you are using something aimed to more experienced Linux users like Arch or Gentoo you should have no issues like that. I have set up many computers with both Linux Mint and Windows 10. Honestly the second one is way more time consuming and annoying to set up. When it comes to technical problems I don't recall those problems with Linux Mint. Also when it comes to terminal I think you should change your approach. I also used to think it is more userfriendly to click everything out. And surprisingly you can acrually do things that way in linux too however actually terminal is better - instead of clicking who the hell knows how many things in how many places (cause windows settings all are over the place) you just copy paste two commands to terminal

[@a.f.7404]

Been a PC gamer for my whole life. Then came the kid...and the bills...and the stress. I can finally say that after almost 6 years I could finally(kind of) afford a Ryzen 5 2600 paired with an RTX 2060. Damn I feel young again and like I found something that I lost when I sold my PC back in the day, a fucking part of me...of who I am.

[@coryjones3855]

Happy you found your self again 😊

[@Sumi_S]

Don’t have kids Got it

[@oidrops]

@@Sumi_S Naaaa i have a kid and feel the same way

[@riveteye93]

@@Sumi_S kids are worth it, trust me. It's like replaying the game on hard mode, bu you keep all your progress.

[@Larimuss]

If you work hard for your family you deserve a decent rig 😂 there’s much worse vises or habits to have. You only need to upgrade it once every 4-6 years. $1000 / 5 = $200 a year. Tell the wife 😂

[@danielevans465]

As a linux user I would say that linux is run on old computers to make them faster but also works very well on newer computers.

[@dtuando]

I daily drive linux and I play apex legends daily... linux does everything windows does but with less clicks and a few commands.

[@erik7317]

I have a build that's been mostly modified from 2014. My motherboard from that time also has M.2 support. I have one in there right now lol. However I have DDR3 RAM and can't upgrade further. I also have an old i7 that is 4ghz. I am able to use my 3080 just fine. Otherwise, if I want to upgrade anything else, I have to replace the mobo. But the PC runs great. :)

[@Andres-Estrella]

Atlas OS seems incredible. LTT should make a separate video on it

[@liamconverse8950]

It's just windows optimized for gaming

[@LRM12o8]

No, it's Windows without the features that you don't need, but Microsoft wants you to use anyway.

[@Andres-Estrella]

@@liamconverse8950 no, it is windows stripped off a lot of the massive amount of bloat and tracking that ships with windows which can revive old hardware like they showed in the video. They market it for gaming bc everything is nowadays and apparently it works

[@hellomark1]

I have an old laptop I still use sometimes, I keep it on Win8.1 because 10 was even more sluggish. Now I'm wondering if Win10+Atlas would be faster than standard Win8.1

[@liamconverse8950]

@@Andres-Estrella Those are things that impede gaming performance

[@Lizlodude]

Hearing Linus call a system from the generation of my current one super obsolete is a bit rough XD Nice contributions from both Acer and AtlasOS. To Acer's credit, I just recently tossed an old SSD and a new install in an old Acer laptop for a family member, and the process of finding the drivers and info was remarkably unremarkable, which given how terrible it usually is, is a nice bonus. I'd love to see some third party security audits of projects like AtlasOS as well, as that would give some additional confidence in the safety of it.

[@LabGecko]

Seconding the security audits. If nothing else, it would give users some ideas of what to lock down / watch for.

[@lewismassie]

My computer is a generation older than this one :/

[@iTooob]

Bruh, mine's from 2014

[@sqeaky8190]

Old can be fine, depending on what you do. This had a 5th gen i5 in it right? I have gotten I think 4 new computers for myself (not counting servers and work issued things), but I do a fair amount of work from mine. I am doing stuff like software builds and running VMs that take gobs of memory, but that isn't most people, right? There are tons of taks and old PC or even a chromebook an do just fine at.

[@shirt9913]

Y’all broke as hell wtf 😭😭 the pc was literally $100

[@elfedorausado]

I like this concept, despite the caveats. As someone who lives in a country where netbooks running windows 7 are still used regularly by people (just sold one a fortnight ago), the security implications of Atlas are of secondary importance to keeping hardware usable and out of landfills, at least for what people buying said netbooks are using them for.

[@MrReese]

I rocked my 6600K until mid 2022 and it handled everything I threw at it quite well paired with several gfx cards over the span of 7 years (GTX 660, GTX 1060, GTX 1080, RTX 3060 TI) - eSports titles, rather modern shooters like PUBG and Ghost Recon Wildlands & Breakpoint, cool single player games like MGS V, MMOs like Black Desert - even in parallel with eSports titles. When I upgraded last year I took out the gfx card and sound card and passed the PC on to my mom who has been using it since then. I hate wasting perfectly good hardware.

[@mareksb]

I wish you explained more what Atlas OS changes and did before/after performance benchmarks

[@shipwreck9146]

Agreed, but tbh, removing Windows Defender kills this for me. There's no way I'll be switching to a 3rd party antivirus.

[@jono6379]

It only took 17minutes to get to the point 😂

[@Sheltur_0311]

@@shipwreck9146 it removes defender because defender uses a ton of memory and cpu, something alot of people complain about

[@psychosis1767]

@@Sheltur_0311 It's still good to have it as an option as a bit of an idiot proofing. It toggled me off from it as well since even though I am tech savvy and know all forms of social engineering and ways to cause havok on PCs, I'm still not safe from myself fucking up.

[@shipwreck9146]

@@psychosis1767 Exactly, and even with all that tech knowledge, I'm often not sober while using my computer, and Windows Defender is like my designated driver.

[@DerSeegler]

Good video, but I would have liked a closer look at what is removed. Especially the security related things, like Defender and other Mitigations. For an offline machine, great. For an online machine, it could be risky.

[@DragoniteSpam]

Yeah, I thought that part sounded questionable when I first heard it, and then I looked closer... don't do this. Some of the things it disables are pretty benign, but things like UAC and Defender? Do we _want_ to go back to XP-era security?

[@cavedweller333]

​@@DragoniteSpam yeah, I'd say the tradeoffs aren't worth it unless the machines running 100% offline

[@DragoniteSpam]

@@cavedweller333 Yeah, and there certainly can be a use for that, but it's by no means a one-size-fits-all solution. It's a shame because I thought this was one of his better videos aside from that one major oversight :p

[@EricCorsi]

I agree. Did not like what was disabled esp from a security standpoint.

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

Only if you fail to practice safe computing. I don't use any antivirus software, and I haven't had a single virus or trojan since my first PC in 1989. Don't go to sketchy web sites, don't have preview on in email, and don't double-click on attachments. Download the attachments and try opening them with appropriate software. If they don't open, delete them. It really works.

[@shubham_k]

I have a Presario laptop from 2007. First I used it with win XP for 4-5 years, then used it with win 7. Gradually, Win 7 started becoming slow on it circa 2015 with glitches in streaming media in browsers. Then I switched to using various Linux based distros on it like Ubuntu, Puppy Linux,etc etc. Installed Ubuntu mate on it in 2018. Still going strong. It's 2023, and I still use that laptop with Ubuntu mate. Works like a charm except streaming of media on browsers. Still it's good for working offline, downloading movies over torrent and watching it on VLC media player. The truth is the HW never dies. It's what you're putting on top of that HW that really makes a difference in the usability aspects of the computer. Similarly, I have an Asus Eeebook from 2015 which came pre-installed with Win 8. Still running good enough for streaming content. Throwing away computers for being old , is not my thing. Nice video overall. But I would still prefer some lightweight Linux -based distro over something like Atlas owing to its security concerns.

[@michaelcallummayaka]

Good to see a video for the financially constrained. Thank you Linus and team.

[@carpandrei7493]

I fully agree: old HW doesn't have to die because software keeps getting bloated. I mean, I still use a 12 year old laptop (mostly with linux) for basic tasks like web browsing, youtube... even some very little schematic and PCB design (low complexity hobby projects). So yeah, videos like this are highly welcomed. Can't wait for the LTT Labs to kick into high gear and check out how well entry level hardware performs, which will be supper handy for jobs like this one...

[@marnixds]

this. You can run pop os on an older machine or even arch if you feel like destroying your nerves but gaining knowledge and it will run fine. Lots of people use macbooks from 2012 with linux on it.

[@MediQate]

@@marnixds What older laptop do you think would be great for messing with/learning? I’m in the market for a new laptop but if I can get an old laptop that I can upgrade and mess with without being worried about messing it up that would be awesome! A MacBook can run VM’s and install everything windows PC can install?

[@marnixds]

@@MediQate depends on what you want to learn. I have little knowledge of macbooks, even the second hand market asks a lot of money for any apple product mainly because of the brand name. Non-Apple a Business Thinkpad perhaps?

[@MediQate]

@@marnixds Well to be honest with you, I’ve been disconnected from computers my whole existence, minimal access to and desire to get into them. I’ve decided it’s time for me to “unlock” the ability to learn as much as I can about computers, AI and related technology and have the opportunity to buy a high end laptop or PC but I’d LOVE to be able to “destroy” or take apart a machine, learn the internals, learn the software, modify the OS, dive deep into everything without being limited by Windows 11/Microsoft, bottlenecks or unoptimizable/overpriced older machines. It may sound dumb but it’s the current state of things, I’m able to buy a good PC or laptop, I have the strong urge to learn everything and the dedication, free time and will power to do it but don’t want to be limited by modern restrictions. I’ll upgrade my machine in the future when I’m fully comfortable with creation and modification but I’m currently looking for something that’s good to mess with but not horribly outdated and overpriced with inadequate specs. In the future I plan on creating/designing products and bringing them to reality through 3D printing, but for now I want to KNOW a computer, become familiar and comfortable with software and sensitive hardware, then move onto the next phase. Would ANY laptop be ok to mess with or would a high ram, recently made CPU and access to various sources of storage be preferred for compartmentalization of different programs?

[@commandohazelnuts]

I use a 12 year old Mac Book Pro to do the same thing! Thanks Doritania

[@ChimpRiot]

AtlasOS ended up being the more interesting section. That’s the minimal Windows experience I want.

[@bruce-le-smith]

yeah the windows bloat is so bad, really glad some smart folks are giving us an easy button to drop the unnecessary bells and whistles!

[@AniviaS]

It sounds interesting but lack of windows defender is a deal breaker for me. I don't want to use 3rd party anti-virus

[@arcadebit1551]

Yeah havent tried it yet, usually I do this stuff manually via Autoruns and probally will continue until atlas let me keep windows defender and spectre protection (at least as an option). What I really would hope for are different Windows distros like linux have.

[@JoshuaCasey]

@@AniviaS agreed. Windows Defender is the only antivirus I have installed (because it's just that good). (Although I also have malwarebytes installed...though the incessant sale promotion popups in the corner because I'm on the free version is kinda annoying).

[@JoshuaCasey]

@@arcadebit1551 i definitely think I'll keep an eye on atlasos

[@dannyboy42223]

Awesome video and nice to see atlas os for windows needs. Debian and xfce only uses 300mb ram to the desktop though so it's more than just extended life it's having ram free for actual work. Will check atlas out though thanks to you for needed windows chores.

[@Revoku]

now this is useful, I have an old 4690k system my wife uses thats starting to show its age, and shes far too cheap to want to upgrade it, but still uses it for video watching and gaming.

[@LikelyLagging]

To reiterate the comments before me. MORE BUDGET VIDEOS LIKE THIS WOULD BE AWESOME. Like a mid tier, low tier, budget, and super budget build video(s) would be H U G E.

[@Slitheringpeanut]

I agree, this rig I got is the only thing I'll likely ever have. This thing goes, I won't be able to get a new one. So if I can stretch it out for as long as possible, I will.

[@Derpynewb]

They've done that in the past and they didn't get good results. My guess is psychologically a video about un obtainable hardware has more replay value than a budget build vid you'd use once. Shoe Horning budget builds wherever you can on the side seems like a good compromise imo

[@ICCraider]

The thing is that AAA games have degraded to such a point that I've seen more gameplay innovations in AA and indie games in the past 2 years than almost every AAA games combined. The only games that could actually compete with good indie games were Elden Ring and GOW. Hogwarts legacy felt like a bootleg version of Fable the lost chapters or kingdoms of Amalur. The RE remake games all have 2 decade old mechanics that we've played like a 100 times over. And the graphics aren't that good either, they're worse than "The vanishing of Ethan Carter" which was released a decade ago. And that game used to run on a GTX650ti at 60FPS without any problems. Almost all AAA games feel half assed. My biggest regret in the past 2 years is my purchase of a new GPU because I'm not utilizing it at all cuz indie games aren't that demanding. Could've stuck to my GTX970 and I still wouldn't have missed much.

[@HearMeLearn]

there are entire channels dedicated to giving broke gamers options for pcs, or you could always just buy a used console.

[@bjarne431]

Agree, I generally never buy the latest and greatest. Way to expensive and way beyond what I actually need. Right now I use i5-7600 with a single 8gb ddr4 stick and gtx 1060 6GB: 200+ fps in CS:GO is way more than enough on my 60 hz monitor lol

[@stefanejegod8644]

Also, plastic fabrics will break down over time when you've re-used it like 5-6 times. So in the end you'll actually end up NOT being able to reuse it for some usecases. Like, reusing the plastic from a flexible chair might not be able to be flexible, because the fibres are somewhat less forgiving. So you either just re-use it for something rigid like a small kids garden shovel or something, that's basicly just a piece of hard plastic. This is also the reason why they "only" make like 30-50% reused plastic items, you need some sort of "virgin" (Yeah that's what it's called) material in there to support the binding of all the different fibres. The part about making a random green-whatever item is great though. So far the industry have been quite against reusing EVERY color of plastic, which is why you see a lot of clear plastic bottles which is made us A LOT of virgin material. Because the end users wouldn't want a random-colored bottle because it looks "dirty" but if we could change eachothers mind, we could actually reuse a lot more plastic bottles than we do today. -The more clear the plastics are, the more expensive it is to produce, and the less of material is re-used.

[@mrmaniac3]

I also don't see why the new product needs to be made from plastic. The chassis should be aluminum, or something like that that's 100% recyclable. Reduce, reuse, recycle. Making new consumer electronics hardware out of metal reduces the amount of plastics needed for production. Reusable and disposable bottles similarly can easily be made of metals. There are some Japanese beverage companies that make aluminum bottles.

[@IWillSmurfYou]

​@mrmaniac3 yes!! Life was fine before microplastics poisoned our global soil, foodchain, and water supply...

[@Skypso]

@@mrmaniac3the idea is more to take the plastics that have been used and get them out of the landfill and from the earth, not so much to just get away with using more, cleaning up landfills and the earth is better then just letting it sit

[@Sabrintwitt3r]

This reminds me, one time I have seen one local glass maker (I'm sure it's not exclusive to them) has launched a line of cups made from recycled glass. You know that they seperate clear glass from green tinted glass? I guess they didn't do that and the end result of light green tinted glass looks so cool. Not every recycled good has to look bad.

[@prettylitch1785]

aluminium has a very high melting point and uses a lot of fossil fuels. Much more than plastic @@mrmaniac3

[@romandell1289]

I built a gaming pc with a used i7 4790k, z97ar used, and used 1660 ti. Put an id cooling tower cooler on it, overclocked to 4.6 and ram to 2400 mhz. I get 90 fps 1080p on mw2 with recommended performance graphics. Old and used is definately usable. Also I stripped down windows 10 with a lot of research on necessary prosesses.

[@classico1132]

Saved an old Dell Optiplex 745 from a landfill a few weeks ago. It's a machine from 2006, only 2 years younger than myself, it's still rocking such hardware as Intel core 2 duo, 1GB (soon to be 2GB) DDR2 RAM or 80GB IDE HDD, and is running fresh reinstall of Windows XP. Although very much obsolete in context of modern gaming and internet usage, I still find it quite useful both as a retro gaming machine and a workstation for old software. Right now I am doing some music production and graphic design on it, seeing what stuff can I make with this little buddy's limitations. TL;DR: the point is every pc no matter how old and obsolete can still be useful in modern setting if you are creative enough

[@animeloveer97]

I mean that was low end for 2006 honestly but if it works for you then go for it! I used to mess with old windows 98 pcs in 2010-2015 when I was in high school and it was so fun and I learned so much

[@kernelpickle]

I guarantee that the Spectre and Meltdown mitigations being disabled is the greatest contributing factor to that feeling snappier than with just the upgraded RAM and SSD, because they’ve had to add more of those over time and the older the CPU, the less secure the microcode and architectures were and the more software mitigations were needed. I would’ve liked to see a CPU benchmark to see how much performance was gained, because it’s easily in the 20-30% range, if not higher. Again, they’ve found more bugs and added to those more and more over time, so unless you have the latest CPUs on the market, you’re guaranteed to have slightly less performance from those security fixes. As a silly, who cares if it’s compromised system because it’s just for games-it’s fine. I just wouldn’t use it to do anything like log into important websites or hold financial information on it.

[@404Anymouse]

The antivirus is a huge contribution as well. It disables Windows Defender so unless you want to rawdog it without any protection at all, you'll lose more responsiveness by using third party antivirus than you would have by not disabling Defender in the first place.

[@thewholeroll]

I just came to say this. The spectre and meltdown mitigations can really affect the responsiveness of systems with old CPUs

[@Breakfast_of_Champions]

Gibson InSpectre can turn these mitigations off, it's really nice on older hardware.

[@ghohenzollern]

Until I saw they turned these mitigations off, I thought this OS might be a real option for me or maybe anyone, but without these mitigations in place are there any actual use cases for this OS that are even remotely safe? If my old machine is currently running Windows 7, would this even be as secure as that is? Are we even reasonably sure the team/person behind this OS isn't just hoping to add more machines to their secret botnet?

[@Electric_Doodie]

@@ghohenzollern not really, No. It's basically a "Haha Low Process / RAM Usage goes brrrr" kind of thing, for the kids out there that have no clue (or a system would need to be so old that it doesn't even matter anymore anyways). It has so much security disabled and other things, that it's basically just a "Show Off" it feels like. Even worse, that Linus is promoting it kind of now, especially after getting hacked not so long ago himself, kinda ironic lol And the worst, you can't even be sure how the Atlas OS gets handled by Anti-Cheat Games (Riot Games, etc). Maybe you get a (Shadow-)Ban the moment you log into it with it, maybe not.

[@lucasbiaggini]

I have been using Linux as my daily driver, no dual-boot for more than a decade now. I still think it's great for people to have more options to use older machines.

[@jimbo-dev]

Thank you for wording my thoughts more constructively 😁 Especially after the recent comments about Linus refusing to use/learn Linux it has become hard to understand all this effort to make windows suck less. I still wish they would make content about properly beginning to use linux, bit tutorial-ish way where someone would guide them through the differences since that’s the way people learn other operating systems too

[@SA1G0N_]

Definitely! Even gaming has improved astronomically in Linux!

[@diegoleiva7242]

I'm using Chrome Flex on a very old laptop (A8-6410 with 8 GB of RAM and an SSD) and it's fantastic, I also used Mint XFCE but my lack of experience with Linux made me useless at solving basic issues. It saved my laptop from being landfill and I keep it by my bedside for emails, news and whatnot.

[@sigmamale4147]

@@jimbo-dev gaming support is still eh on linux, especially game mods and online anticheat games

[@fitybux4664]

Try to do something like Python programming in Windows. "Oh wait, the package maintainer did something that doesn't work in Windows. And not being able to install that package means the thing I'm trying won't work. I guess I could use hacky WSL or a VM. 🤷‍♂" Basically, Windows is for when you're using your computer as a toy. If you develop in Windows, you are a second class citizen most of the time. 😀 (If you game, it's quite the opposite.)

[@mattzocrazy123]

Gonna try this on my Alienware Alpha, sounds perfect.

[@lalsur8589]

Using an older cpu qx9650, with a 1060, windows 7 with an ssd. Works perfectly fine for all tasks. Its actually faster than when i first built it.Have also streamed games (at 1080) to my tv with no issue. Have also used atlas, and it makes older hardware useable. Windows 10 just slows down any pc. You will definitely need an ssd upgrade. I tried ubuntu, but there is a learning curve and troubleshooting can become an issue. It is definitely an interesting os and something that is worth exploring if u have the time. I've upgraded friends and family's laptops and pc with an ssd upgrade, and thats it. This has made all the difference. Not changed the ram or psu, or upgraded the gpu.

[@zacharypoorman1067]

I don't usually comment, but having materials focused on upcycling and lower spec machines is really nice and I know others feel the same. Thanks LMG!

[@Savitarax]

Software/OS optimizations are honestly one of the most important things you can do. I’ve searched for hours on the best settings and it can make or break a game honestly.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And at the same time something people do less. Just look at all these electron apps for example.

[@Psychelode]

Thank you Acer for sponsoring this, it was what i didn't know i needed. I will definitely get to work installing Atlas on my little home server (mostly for dedicated game servers), which happens to be an old Acer Veriton 4640g running a 6600t, 8gb of ram and an old m.2 sata 275 ssd i had lying around. I tried the linux way with 2 distros, and it was catastrophic both times (first Lubuntu, then tried the full fat ubuntu), as basically it was fine to connect to it remotely while it has a monitor attached, but as soon as i tried to run it headless, i had tons of issues. I got so discouraged with it that i let it sit for some time, while pondering switching to windows 10, but fearing the high resource use. Let's see what Atlas OS can do :D.

[@techrickyross]

I have a laptop that’s almost 10 years old(2013) and still going strong, specs(if necessary) 1TB WD blue SSD, Intel core i5 4200u @ 1.6 GHz, 8GB DDR3 ram and Intel HD 4400 graphics, also re-pasted the CPU so the laptop runs quieter and lasts longer

[@bradevans7935]

Kudos to Acer for this green initiative, using non-soldered connections where possible, and making the case out of recycled plastic. The only thing I'd change would be to have the case halves screw together instead of using clips, given that broken clips are one of the main things that lead to a lot of plastic items becoming waste.

[@muhammadghayyas8674]

Bro called 7th gen obsolete technology 💀💀💀💀

[@Bloxomatic]

Well it was 7 years ago

[@7amzo3]

My Friend use i3 370m (Gen 1💀💀​@@Bloxomatic

[@twistedcranknation]

Must suck for him. ​@@7amzo3

[@zaclabucay5523]

@@7amzo3bro what

[@6lu5ky86]

Thank you for this information, my 3700x and 5700xt are still kickin' in every game that I either need high fps in competitive or lower fps but chonkin' cpu crunches!

[@F_e_l_i_x_]

17:10 was the world class comment I was waiting for. The look on his face = priceless.

[@chris-C8]

I love videos like this. I was backing up old home videos recently and planned to use Plex until I found out that when family members accessed it, it would hurt my laptop's performance. So, that wasn't an option. But I watched a video Anthony did a while back about turning your old PC into a server, so that's my plan going forward. It would be nice to see more videos featuring Anthony on the main channel. With his video guide, I installed my first Linux operating system on an old laptop and gave it to my niece so she could watch her Disney movies.

[@abcbcd1834]

Anthony is the best host on any LMG channel imo. His videos are always great

[@bpdqbpdq]

Just make sure not to host 4k content on it, things get un-fun when you're dealing with transcoding issues from tech-unsavvy relatives. Either that or harass them to fix their settings lol.

[@jjmmjj9999]

@@bpdqbpdq 4k can be direct played providing the client supports it.

[@josephromano6168]

I just saw that video too! Ended up going Synology due to a significantly lower power draw and my old ITX computer not supporting transcoding. This videos are great DIY guides

[@kainenable]

Dude, try running openmedia vault and running plex in a container. It is so slick and efficient. I have been running that on a rasberry pi for over a year now. I have like 12 containers running on my little pi and has been working like a champ.

[@bungeetaco]

One thing to keep in mind with AtlasOS is that network drive functionality is broken as of April 2023. ReviOS also has a playbook and doesn't remove that feature.

[@tehonlynoobs5556]

almost gonna jump a board to use atlasos until i see your post about network drive .. god bless you

[@ThisIsCexary]

@@tehonlynoobs5556 go with ghost spectre superlite (i recommend)

[@bungeetaco]

@@ThisIsCexary Ghost Spectre is pretty good, although a bit 'weirder' to download (password protected archives)

[@TrustPax]

it is the last remaining security feature of the OS

[@user-xe1de9if2o]

Part of the reason phones slow down is that the Flash storage wears out over time (similar to SSDs). A factory reset may help as it frees a lot of (perhaps healthier) space for reuse.

[@Olivia-W]

A lot faster than SSDs. But keeping a lot of free space on the phone should mitigate that for the most part. I use about half of my 128GB, and have a extra 256GB sd card for all the photos and whatnot.

[@lobsterwhisperer7932]

My Toshiba Laptop i5 is from 2010 and i still use it as my daily, its still more powerful than a lot of entry/mid-level laptops on the current market.. it has never let me down once...dont know how long that will last though.

[@starlight1697]

Recycling stuff is amazing. I've always tried my best to reuse old hardware to reduce waste. Still do, have a couple of older components in my PC and currently building a backup PC using entirely old hardware that I used to use.

[@NotOats_]

18:10 "Spectre/Meltdown mitigations are disabled" disabling fixes for extremely dangerous vulnerabilities that affect old processors in a build for... old hardware. surely this will never backfire

[@YannickBo]

They didn't even mention that UAC is disabled. So every program can obtain administrator privileges if it wants without the user noticing.

[@forbidden76]

Its funny to watch this video now in 2023 where its like 4-5x better that it used to be. In 1998-2008 I was reinstalling Windows from scratch every year because Windows 98 and XP were so horrible handling the bloating of the system files/registry. I was playing a lot of FPS games like Quake 3, Counterstrike and Battlefield 2 which really needed to perform 100%. I turned off lots of services and restarted my PC every time I was going to play a game...which took 2-5 minutes depending on if there were updates pending. And I had fast system at the time.

[@cwhitley.sawlabs]

In case anyone wonders, orange is 3.3V, green is your enable pin, purple is the 5V standby and I think white is 5V online.

[@Jachym_77]

Ive been waiting so long for you guys to look at custom ISOs because they can be a real gamechanger. I personally use ReviOs on my old laptop and experience up to 40% fps gains in Games. Thank you for showing off these opertunities to squeeze the most fps out of older systems for a wider range of people.

[@Chiruliru]

Would be interesting to see the comparison in performance and overall responsiveness between OG W11 vs Tiny11 vs Atlas

[@spamme766]

And Spectre 11

[@arnox4554]

vs MX Linux. No, we're not gonna shut up about Linux. Go tell Microsoft to make a better OS that doesn't need a complete fucking lobotomy just to make it halfway performant and usable and doesn't require you to sign up for a fucking online Microsoft account just to install Windows. And by the way, this is all coming from someone who used to love Windows.

[@saricubra2867]

Windows 10 is faster than 8.1 for a decade old Haswell high tdp 4 core 8 thread i7 laptop that i have, Windows 11 should be even better. I currently have an i7-12700K system with Windows 11, the boot time is 3 seconds, my decade old laptop has a boot time of 12 seconds.

[@pawepiat6170]

Also, Linux, Native and with proton

[@saricubra2867]

I debloated my decade old Haswell laptop and changed some settings, then i did an undervolt and it has a partial overclock as well. It feels snappy for being a decade old. I use it for music production, capable of recording stuff and mixing in real time. My i7-12700K has twice the single core perfomance but the IPC isn't 100% better. But what changed everything for me is Thread Director, not the core count.

[@ryanlapeer4230]

This was neat to watch since I have done the same thing here, but instead I bought a refurbished Dell optiplex 7010 with a I7 3770 then just added in a 1650 ti and bam a mid tier gaming pc that only cost me $550. Booted up FF XV and it ran pretty damn well, hasn't crashed yet and even after 3 years of having it to this day, this tower still is my main.

[@polish_filipino]

this really makes me want to open up my computer from 2009 and see if i can get it working... even though I need a dsub cable for the monitor it would be kinda cool

[@noichiboy]

Securitywise, I'm not sure I'd jump on AtlasOS yet but that sounds great. I'm still on an i7 4790k paired with a r9 290 and while I will probably update soon because it will make editing 4k much easier (Resolve Studio helps a lot too for older hardware), my pc can probably still last a couple more years without struggling too much. Those kind of configs are snappy enough for anything you'd already be doing before 2020.

[@mryelaer4378]

You are editing 4k videos with an i7 4790k?!?

[@nfutckr2292]

"I see, a man of i7 4790k user as well"

[@arthursavino7950]

I'm on a xeon e3-1271v3 which is equivalent and with a gtx 1060 and it works perfectly for my 1080p gaming needs

[@qgame4941]

I upgraded from 4790k + 1050ti (former 980 broke) to r9 5900x + 3080 a few months back and the difference in responsiveness and for streaming is extreme. Honestly purely for gaming i wouldbt have bought the new machine, but for everything else it was really cool

[@theBabyDead]

@@qgame4941 lol I went from 4790K with a 1080 to a 5900X with 3080 as well. Differences are insane, especially on 165hz QHD. On 60hz 1080p it was still doing ok though.

[@syaieya]

Losing restore points, automatic updates, and windows defender on a still updating OS is a rough exchange for a bit more blood out of that turnip. I know there are options to solve all those issues otherwise but as far as canned solutions go they seem smooth on the outside

[@deezeejoey]

Loss of defender seems like a huge issue for anyone planning on using this computer and browse the internet with a web browser.

[@daniels-mo9ol]

Defender and updates sure, but restore points? I've never ever heard anyone use that.

[@lievre460]

@@daniels-mo9ol I use it a few times a month or so messing around with drivers and software that will break or change something that I didn't like and System Restore comes in to save the day.

[@stubbyfps]

I use reviOS and they have options to enable those things if needed. I've never heard of atlasOS but from my current win11 build on revi, I have everything you named enabled since it is kinda an issue.

[@junjung2975]

yeah i never use restore point if it borked fresh install it is then

[@SlayBellsMusic]

My laptop died, and I replaced it with a refurb desktop. 32 RAM and 4TB of storage, half of that SSD for ~ $300. Came with a monitor plus I had one from my old tower. I use it for audio recording and it does an awesome job.

[@teeing9355]

Love the Old PC videos. Can you please do a video on how to disable Windows 10 bloat and optimize your PC for speed, without having to go through the Atlas install?

[@evifnoskcaj]

Love this! All we did at my Uni CS-Club was repair and refurbish and experiment with "old" computers and components that people would have otherwise thrown away. It served to teach people about computer hardware, saved people a bunch of money, helped out the students and staff, and it was super fun! Also, I love the shot of Anthony happily in the background with his hands together. Freaking GOAT. Praise be to overlord Anthony. ❤

[@GeovaneDias7]

2018 I build my pc(i7-8700k+1080ti) with tips from you LTT videos, been running every single game until now with absolutely no problem. Unfortunately I wont be able to upgraded it but now I really know what to do when my system start to stutter on the future. Ty from the heart guys for videos like these.

[@simonp37]

I am watching this on a Mac Pro from 2009, running a still supported macOS version (still getting security updates). I upgraded the processor, maxed out memory and upgraded graphics card. Seems to lag a bit with macOS 13 and 14, but works just fine with macOS 12.

[@danwat1234]

I have like 70 SFF business PCs 2nd gen thru 7th gen Intel all with their original PSUs running just fine 24/7 under full load. No need to replace that PSU really. I should try Atlas on them.

[@gokalpcetin2769]

I loved to see this video, this green approach and this much progress at it is awesome to see. I myself just turned an old desktop pc (dell optiplex 790) to a server for minecraft, plex and ftp, I used linux so far but I would love to try setting up another VM with AtlasOS to see how much performance it brings back on the table compared to regular Windows 10/11! I really like the idea of reusing and recycling e-waste as much as possible! Thank you AtlasOS for doing this!!

[@gamin8ing]

My experience with Atlas OS was really smooth like it only consumed 13% percent RAM on my 2GB ram 13 year old PC, i used Mem Reduct to explicitly do it, and it passed my expectations by a lot

[@TheFalseShepphard]

wtf how and why are you even using 2 gigs?

[@posadist681]

@@TheFalseShepphard He has to play minesweeper on low settings 💀

[@escapetherace1943]

bro I have a 13 year old laptop with 16 gigs of ram that cost 20 dollars stick in more ram 💀

[@anupampreet2285]

I am still rocking a 2011 Pentium e8500 with 3 gb ram . Installed an ssd and a gt 730 few years ago and it performs basic tasks just fine. :)

[@Laz3rSkar]

Atlas has made many updates too. Now V0.3 is made for W11 23H2! And also works with 10 on the same playbook!

[@1Devilzay1]

This was a fantastic video! I would love LTT to keep tabs on AtlasOS from time to time with updates! And in general I'd like to see a possible series on the state of OS' in 2023 and beyond to see how they are in their current states after updates and such.

[@ZNotFound]

I have no knowledge of AtlasOS but if you want a deep dive into it there are probably KZbin channels that reviews each update. LTT probably won't do anymore videos on the OS unless they can spin it into another video with another purpose that's not just showing of changes in the OS like this one where they showed it off by installing it in old hardware.

[@softxpandguest708]

Atlas would be cool... Except they go out of they way to completely neuter and disable Windows Defender. If you never connect your gaming computer to the internet, or only use the OS long enough to run benchmarks, then sure, it *looks*, great...

[@Purik_Gaming]

@@softxpandguest708 Windows defender is useless,it can be disabled by administrator level apps,provides no web security thats a browsers job and overall you dont need an antivirus unless you run public servers or you are not smart enough to not get a virus

[@1Devilzay1]

@@ZNotFound That's fair I just feel with the way they handle things and write their videos they do a good job of balancing being nerdy with being understandable and with them keeping tabs on the states of operating systems I feel they can really tell you the good, the bad and anything else in between with them.

[@1Devilzay1]

@@softxpandguest708 AtlasOS from this initially does look good, some of those drawbacks are rough but still it would be nice to see a deeper dive and the state of it like a year from now or something. Windows defender isnt a killer for me as I rock Bitdefender but yeah I can see your point.

[@sc0tt11]

I get there's a very tight production schedule at LTT but the coverage of Atlas OS should never have gone out like this, it's a major security risk in its current form and they shouldn't be encouraging people to try it. Especially if those people end up using it on their main system.

[@dashcharger24]

Linus is good at hardware stuff, but this guy is terrible when doing software reviews. I skip all of his software recommendations (unsafe VPN setup anyone?), and his Linux-challenge basically prove my point.

[@SBCurley]

Yeah, I’m somewhat aware of atlas OS and I believe one of its initial use-cases was for offline fighting game tournaments so that tournament organizers could attempt to run PC setups and get more “juice” out of those setups. I would not consider it for any sort of typical user. Probably just for special cases like this or like lan parties or offline media-box type things.

[@AnthonyPerez-ee3oh]

Whats wrong with Atlas, and wth is UAC

[@nemtudom5074]

The fact they didnt even acknowledged this as an issue shows how corporate they become. These small-scale scandals are a weekly fking occurence now, what the actual FK

[@amanewithjesus5244]

Jesus is lord follow him and you will be saved

[@NathanMillerVisuals]

Great video! Yes it's always a good idea to up-cycle old hardware like this. When I built a new workstation upgrading from 4790K the cpu and motherboard still worked fine even running windows. But what I did was I turned that system into an Unraid server for my production business backup and I couldn't be happier. Just needed to buy the hard drives.

[@AbstractObserver]

I had this exact spec until the end of the last year when I bought a bigger power supply and a new 3060 to put ion place of the 1660