You Don't Need Locking Tuners - How To String A Guitar Properly

Locking tuners on a guitar, bass, mandolin or a bowl of pudding are the exact same waste of money.
Learn to string your instruments and stop wasting money on gimmicks.
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[@Cannibal_Actual]

Why are you so angry?

[@lonerjuan]

That's kind of a complex thing to answer in a KZbin comment, but basically it has to do with how I've never been able to live up to my own standards, which I can actually trace back to how easy school and pretty much everything else was to me growing up, resulting in impossibly high expectations from everyone around me and eventually, from myself, which in turn caused me to develop some pretty self-destructive habits of excess and depressive/maniac behavioral traits. Think 'Malcolm In The Middle' season 25. That said, I was not angry during that string change. I was just being the usual silly goose me, having fun, trying to get it done in less than 60 seconds. Thanks for asking though! It was an interesting exercise trying to synthesize years of therapy in a single paragraph.

[@theneoncactus2743]

LMAO

[@IrreIephant]

@@lonerjuanthis response was priceless haha. Hey man, I get told this a lot! Just a very passionate and goofy dude.. sometimes it comes out angry :))

[@lonerjuan]

@Irrelephant Thanks! I understand I do sound like a maniac quite often, but it's usually exactly as you said.

[@austin33785]

Bitterness

[@TheGuitarmageddon]

Nobody “needs” locking tuners, but they sure do make string changes quick and easy and hold tuning well.

[@UnlimitCrazyCH]

True

[@RandyHanley]

Very good point.

[@dirkgibbens377]

Yep. I can re-string my Strat and tune to pitch in about 10 minutes if I’m in a hurry, 15 minutes if I’m not 👍👍

[@aceofpain6826]

Especially if you have a trem every time you use it it goes out of tune

[@godbyone]

Locking tuners are awesome

[@youngtofu536]

I'm drunk right now

[@lonerjuan]

I envy you.

[@youngtofu536]

@@lonerjuan cheers bruh pour up

[@hobbit2245]

Me too bro

[@nekrohatred9547]

Lmaooo

[@thefinger1776]

He is drunk right now

[@nick4468s]

I also don’t need to drink my pee but I like the taste and it’s sterile.

[@prxbhav_rizzfr]

This man is master oogway in disguise

[@frag4007]

Its actually not sterile

[@abalt3019]

@@frag4007 yep.

[@brantleylangford9192]

dodgeball

[@cooperosorio6888]

Patches O’Hoolihan😭

[@abelgeorge4953]

Him: explains some shit Tuner: E

[@1.1kSubChallengeWithoutAnyVid]

RUSH E!!!!

[@ColinBFClarke]

LOL

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

I literally guffawed at this hahahaha!

[@theproxymoxie5140]

“Then every guitar is like a Telecaster” Laughs in Floyd Rose*

[@lonerjuan]

*And chuckles in locking nut.

[@EverythingPSPOfficial]

Came here to say this haha edge III tremolo has entered the chat

[@SongwritingJoe]

Has this guy not heard of the fender ball bearing roller nut jeeeez

[@siliconiusantogramaphantis2122]

**Not understanding because I have a Japanese made RG.**

[@aliensphyncter9528]

I had a beautiful floyd rose but some scum bad stole it from.me he wanted to buy it an wanted to barrow it to see if he liked it. I said ok cuz I worked with him he moved to buffalo 2 days later. If I ever see him again I'll flatten his head I swear on my mothers life I will

[@acexxxoasis]

But locking tuners are for sticking the string through tighten tune. The help we get in tuning stability is from an upgraded part. Locking tuners are for time saving in restringing.

[@lonerjuan]

Yeah I know, but since stringing this way takes less than 10 seconds anyway, I have a lot of money left to spend on booze or cherry tomatoes.

[@ChristopherStoppiello]

@@lonerjuan Solid defense.

[@santosl.harper4471]

@@lonerjuan good for wound strings to a point. I can slip all 6 in 10 secs on locks though. In saying that, I'm a 3.5 wind slinger myself. You're right though, you don't "need" locking tuners

[@lonerjuan]

@@santosl.harper4471 That was the point, but I get why some people like them.

[@himynameisbuttcorn5224]

@@lonerjuan hmmm sounds logical. Booze & Cherry tomatoes can't live with them can't live without them

[@ronward2781]

Stop yelling at me I want my mommy

[@Bot29393]

I want your mommy too

[@dierey6426]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@benher973]

I'm otfl literally 👍🏻

[@dannygjk]

I have the same issue. My excuse is Asperger's Syndrome.

[@JoeDubspit24]

🤣🤣

[@nj1255]

The benefit of locking tuners is not only that it makes string changes faster, they also (and most importantly) increase tuning stability because you don't need to wind the strings a bunch of times around the posts. It's especially noticeable on the non-wound high strings.

[@Crazyclay78YT]

Yeah but that's more of a hindrance to people like me that only have one guitar and have to change tuning wildly Edit: I have a 7 string and play in b std down to double drop c# with a .72 on a 27in scale

[@nj1255]

@@Crazyclay78YT What? How can locking tuners be in the way of quickly changing tuning? They are literally exactly the same as regular tuners in that regard.

[@Crazyclay78YT]

@@nj1255 in all the videos I've seen, they say to pull it tight and lock, if you pull it half tight then lock and turn the peg to tune that defeats the whole purpose of locking tuners. My guitar stayed perfectly in tune when I didn't play it for 6 months, there just isn't a reason for them imo. To clarify "half tight" is to give you range when tuning down

[@terrybergan4123]

​@@nj1255Definitely not the same. Look up some videos, it's way faster with locking tuners.

[@nj1255]

@@terrybergan4123 I only have locking tuners on my guitars, so I know what they are. It seems like you either haven't read what I'm actually trying to say, or you just don't understand English well enough. I'm asking @crazy_clay78YT how it's possible for locking tuners to be in the way of retuning his guitar quickly, and the answer is: they aren't (unless he is using them incorrectly).

[@cyriton3886]

“Don’t move the,agh camera douchebag” 😂😂😂 I’m dead

[@lonerjuan]

Lonely guy, taking to himself, self hate issues... I wouldn't take this douchebag's advice on anything.

[@jheron61]

That was too frigging funny..

[@lonerjuan]

@@jheron61 At least it's not only ambarrasing and nothing else! (edit: and I spelled it "ambarrasing, I'm an ass)

[@jonrebman1496]

😂that’s the best😂

[@stevemaslow703]

@@lonerjuan Freudian slip

[@dayafteryesterday]

I use this method and can confirm every single one of my guitars are now telecasters 🙏

[@MackDaddyVic]

Same. My Taylor 214? Now a Telecaster.

[@Vits2001]

For real, turned my back on my ibanez for a second and now all i can play is zz top

[@baldbassclef]

🙀

[@terranceburden146]

Your comment made this vid.

[@fabricatorzayac]

My Soviet made nylon string? Turned into a Telecaster.

[@elijahfrazier7769]

“don’t move the camera douchebag” killed me😂

[@donaldwoody7910]

Every guitar should have locking tuners....yeah I said it.

[@thomasfazzio4099]

The strings stretch not the tuning machines

[@rodedawg77]

First thing I thought was that I'd rather just use locking tuners

[@huambo]

Don't need them. But I prefer them.

[@lonerjuan]

We've got a winner!

[@Krebstar100]

Same, love them. Makes string changes quicker for me.

[@chrisknoblock]

Ditto, I've done the overlapping tension wind since I was twelve. Locking tuners are just more convenient, and faster to change a single on the fly.

[@michaelhermanson2755]

Winding a wound string like that is definitely a good idea but for the B and E string and sometimes G a locking tuner helps immensely.

[@markturner9950]

I have been winding my own strings since 1966. Now I use locking tuners. Wayyy wayyy better.

[@JonStossel]

The reason why I like locking tuners isn't because they keep the guitar in tune any better, but because they look neater and are easier to string

[@josh-ym1mc]

i have a floyd rose equipt guitar locking tuners make it not take a hour to change strings i have tried this method with standard grover tuners it don't work it wasted three sets of strings

[@seerking]

You don't need them. But they are very nice to have. 👍

[@perovichj]

The advantage of locking tuners is not just preventing slippage but the ability to change strings quickly.

[@vinceofdeath1361]

I watched this with the volume off and the whole time it looked like he was getting ready to karate chop the neck in half.

[@lonerjuan]

Just tried it, fuck that was scary!

[@BobalouTheOneTheOnly]

Lol I can't unsee it now

[@Thedoza]

"Doesn't go out of pitch anymore" lol your tune drifts because of the strings stretching, not it slipping on the tuner. Locking tuners reduce the length of the string reducing the amount of material that can stretch. That's what makes Locking tuners more stable. The less winding the better.

[@ethangirard6413]

At least someone’s smart😒

[@ryans9029]

That's not true. The string around the post can't stretch. After about 3/4 of one wrap.. The rest never moves.. Tuning stability is not from stretching around the post.. Unless you really fuck up with the wraps..

[@endocry]

Incorrect. There are multiple reasons for a guitar going out of tune, string stretching is not one, otherwise my Martins would go out of tune like a cheaper guitar, and they don’t.

[@Reffitt2]

All guitar strings stretch, no matter the amount of wraps. After I tune my guitars I take them up a half step and let them sit overnight. Once the string has stretched at a higher pitch it should never stretch when tuned. Quality strings shouldn't stretch much anyway. If you have to change a string during a set, change the string then gently pull the string a few times and tune to pitch. Most cheap tuning heads slip or have too much play in the gear, it's not the string stretching after 24 hours. If you can't keep a guitar in tune there's many reasons that could possibly cause the issue. Bad intonation can make chords sound out but it's not the string it's the nut and/or saddle. With acoustics too much moisture or not enough can affect this as well.

[@Guitarisforgrins]

@@endocry you're a dumbass if you think strings don't stretch

[@AColonDashSix]

I strung my Jackson this way (well before I saw the vid it's just the way I was shown by a buddy) and I can say I'm honestly really impressed by how well it stays in tune

[@lonerjuan]

Awesome!

[@Bungeestrapphil]

Did you just call yourself a douchebag?? Hahaha that was hilarious. Thank you!

[@lonerjuan]

Self acknowledging is the path to enlightenment... or some horseshit like that.

[@jimi6481]

@@lonerjuan exactly what a douchebag would say! Hahaha

[@lonerjuan]

@@jimi6481 My cover is blown, I repeat, cover blown, operation is now compromised... standing by for instructions... do you copy?

[@jimi6481]

@@lonerjuan lol

[@devinw5150]

Locking tuners are a great time saver to keep you from having to wind strings multiple times around a post. Just pull it all the way thru and lock it. It’s a nice luxury.

[@lonerjuan]

That I couldn't argue with.

[@10thousandHoursOfPractice]

Here's a random tip for what it's worth, when you coil the string around the post several time you pretty much create parts of guitar string that aren't stretched out all around the post and when your doing bends and strumming, pretty much anything that alters the tension on the string you give opportunity for those loops to loosen in different places and throw your tuning off, as a general rule you want to loop the string as few times as possible around three times for the higher strings, the thicker strings don't require as many loops (2 is a good number for the thicker strings) and that will absolutely help you fight the holy fight against an out of tune guitar. 🎸

[@thesurfjunkies]

Been locking strings into standard tuners like this for years but we still like the ease of the locking tuners.

[@PrinceWesterburg]

I’ve never had tuning instability on any strat in nearly 40 years playing - you’re right! Even with a Floyd Rose type trem, unless you dive bomb, if the strings are put on right and with the locking nut undone the thing will stay in tune. None with a fixed bridge needs locking tuners at all!

[@mycofairbanks3321]

You're a pro for sure. these dics that need a locking devise are rediiiiculous.

[@Jeff_____]

Locking tuners are awesome and make string changes so fast.

[@K4ORl]

I just got my first guitar without locking tuners and I'm so struggling xD I did it wrong for 5 years now . Putting the strings in first and wind it around afterwards somehow worked also for me xD

[@lonerjuan]

I guess if that's how you always did it, going suddenly to vanilla tuners has got to suck.

[@benspiers5210]

Thats how i tune mine on my tele lol

[@Executive-whips]

The point of locking tuners is that it looks better and there’s no end sticking out

[@lonerjuan]

Yup, that's definitely why they were invented. It took a couple thousand comments, but finally someone got me.

[@WageSlavery]

I thought the point was to help reduce tuning inaccuracies? The extra wraps just give more play for the string to fall flat

[@lonerjuan]

@@WageSlavery None of that has anything to do with the original comment. And then there's some...

[@Executive-whips]

@@WageSlavery nah that doesn’t happen

[@Executive-whips]

@@WageSlavery also guitars are made of wood that changes dimensions way more depending on humidity and temperature so a half inch of extra string can never make a measurable difference that isn’t within the margin of error

[@FrankLee-qd3hy]

Ive been playing guitar for over 50 years and I still hate stringing a guitar but thats because nobody ever shared this information with me. I've got new life. Thank you my brother. You rock...👍🎸

[@lonerjuan]

Awesome! I still enjoy stringing though, I take it as a therapeutic thing or some shit. Try to stack 3 or 4 guitars at once and make a session out of it.

[@bombdiggitydave3881]

@@lonerjuan Stacking guitars for a string-A-thon?! Whoo woulda thunk it? Genius! You ought call this restring method "the latin choka-string" Great ideas mi amigo! Gracias

[@lonerjuan]

@@bombdiggitydave3881 Haha I like the name! I don't think stacking string changes is than novel a concept though, but everyone should try it, especially if you hate string changes. All the tools are already out, you've got some tea or a nice bourbon, maybe put on a long podcast you've been putting off, and make an afternoon out of it. Even if the process itself annoys you, everything else makes it enjoyable.

[@antoinepicard5799]

To avoid any problems, buy a bass, you will buy another one before you would need to change the strings. Edit : That was a joke, why do everyone take this so seriously? I repeat for those who are too idiot to think on their own, that's HUMOUR

[@lonerjuan]

I have one! I put coated Ernie Balls on it, I think I could swap basses a few times and keep the strings.

[@blank-re8qv]

damn. you got me there.

[@NandoWasabi]

Smart

[@sas-q-watchingbigf0076]

If u do need to change the bass guitar strings you just cook them 💪☮️

[@kylekelly2166]

please buy new bass strings lol

[@sdmf4family]

“and then every guitar is like a telecaster.” Lol!

[@MackDaddyVic]

Yeah why the fuck did he even say that? Lol

[@sdmf4family]

@@MackDaddyVic Some say Teles are notorious for staying in tune. Greg Koch has a funny quote: something like- “After the apocalypse, there will be cockroaches and telecasters left…and the telecasters will be in tune.” Lol

[@Blueturtle1]

@@sdmf4family can confirm, have a telecaster and I only tune it every 2-3 weeks, and even then it’s not off by much

[@richardflora7940]

You mean crapocaster...

[@peachmelba1000]

@@richardflora7940 Teles are awesome.

[@Spoofaged]

Bro speaking in caps lock has me appreciating my locking tuners even more 🤣

[@lonerjuan]

HAPPY TO HELP!

[@BarneeFife]

I recorded the last sentence on my phone on a loop. For a hobby, I go to a guitar store and wait for the sales guy to try to sell me a guitar with locking tuners. Then I play the sentence to him over and over until he kicks me out of the store.

[@lonerjuan]

Please let this be true.

[@stolky19]

😂😂😂..you win the inter-web for today hahaha ..I fucking hope you serioysly do this🙏

[@sifka1607]

I've never considered locking tuners to be a function of tuning stability. I've always thought of it as an ease of use function. It's a bit quicker in a pinch 🤷

[@whodasheriff]

I appreciate the tip and I’ll certainly try this out on my guitars. But, ultimately I’d prefer locking tuners to simplify and shorten the process.

[@YouTubeMrP]

I’ve used this method for 25 years and it works perfectly.

[@josefmitchel7000]

Yeah

[@re_loyola]

The tuner agrees.

[@lqj1978]

Bit of pencil (graphite) rubbed in the nut groove helps too lol

[@aarondrossart6026]

I clicked like when you called your camera a "douchebag"

[@Danduncanguitars]

I don’t need coffee but I love it, just like my locking tuners. Fun video though 👍🏻

[@shawndouglass2939]

Ditto😉

[@nfiproductions426]

Oh. I definitely need coffee..

[@arthurmilano2920]

Everything seemed pretty smooth sailing until he tucked that string in between the wounded wrap like a fucking madman.

[@lonerjuan]

Well I'll have you know kind sir, the title does fit, so I thank you. (It's an extra little step though, it's not like it's mandatory, but once you master it, you'd be silly to avoid that extra locking aid).

[@MusicHarshit679]

As a new guitarist i was petrified of changing the higher e string as it keeps detuning itself You made my day thanks man

[@lonerjuan]

It's all about removing slack and stretching the strings a bit to get that otherwise slow process out of the way. Other than that, just try shit and see what works. As long as you're not removing wood or stuff like that, pretty much everything with a guitar is fair game and it's unlikely you'll do serious damage.

[@blodgidonka]

Always done it like this, definitely the best method! - they do it like this in the Cort factory

[@lonerjuan]

Cort? What have those guys ever built? (And coincidentally, my #1 is a Cort Sunset, best guitar I've ever guitarred)

[@ThatPunkYT]

Playing 30 years, never heard of this method. Thanks for sharing!

[@lonerjuan]

Awesome! Hope it works for you as well!

[@MoonSpyStudios]

I don't need a washing machine, a car, or Netflix either, but it sure makes life a little easier....

[@lonerjuan]

If someone offered me a free alternative to Netflix that gave the exact same content for free, and I replied that I don't need a car, I wish someone kicked me in the taint about a dozen times at least.

[@arielabraham6683]

That “windings surrounding the string” trick is literally how you are meant to replace strings, and I can confirm since I do that, it does fuck all for tuning stability. It’s better than nothing, but locking tuners are WAY better.

[@niccarney4463]

You need locking tuners

[@lonerjuan]

Now you're just trying to piss me off!

[@lrowlands53]

Locking tuners are meant to reduce the windings to as little as possible. There are good engineering reasons for this. Also, there are a few different locking systems in circulation.

[@RocketDRA]

You don’t need a yacht. But a yacht does make having a great time a lot easier.

[@stoffel1330]

"don't move Camara, dosh bag"😂😂😂

[@romz1]

Interesting, i have always put the string through the hole and then wind, will try it this way next time!

[@lionelnishan5623]

Same here

[@Livelaughlimpbizkit]

This is interesting. There is a much simpler way of doing this lock method though. You put string through the hole then wrap the string over itself (rigjt on the left and left on the right) I'm 99% it's the same result as this

[@billybobby320]

It definitely is i never EVER have to tune my SRV strat maybe cause i have thick gauge strings but for some reason as long as play it everyday it stays in tune,if i use the floyd rose alot, rarely the bass e string goes a little flat but everything stays in tune so well just have to keep it clean, if i dont play it consistently though it will fall a little flat

[@RequiemOfSolo]

@@billybobby320 y-you... you don't have a Floyd rose on a SRV strat... right? Please tell me you mis spoke.

[@prestonbelgarde6896]

Me too. String through hole, then wrapped around over, and then i let it wrap itself underneath the hole.

[@prestonbelgarde6896]

@@RequiemOfSolo Unless it's custom, he doesn't lol

[@RequiemOfSolo]

@@prestonbelgarde6896 yes.. I'm praying that someone didn't put one on a srv strat

[@JackRyan327]

Thanks for the easy explanation! I just found a new way to string my guitar after 25 years!

[@lonerjuan]

Awesome! I hope it turns out to be iseful for you!

[@lvgeorge]

He's right on the Winding, Choking technique. Locking Tuners are a Luxury I haven't had a need for. I'll check you Channel Dude!

[@lonerjuan]

Thank you very much! Get prepared for a hard disappointment though! Just kidding, the bread recipe alone is damn worth all the other crap.

[@TheMrdavies666]

Choking technique? Ive seen that in a porno once

[@borasumer]

This is exactly why you need locking tuners lol, not to do this every freaking time.

[@mikebledsoe2315]

👍😂

[@chuckpotockimusic2288]

Aww...is two additional steps to perform the same task without locking tuners too much for ya, Sparky? Maybe you really shouldn't be playing guitar...🤔

[@Fs3i]

@@chuckpotockimusic2288 maybe let him play the guitar however the heck he wants, my dude

[@JTguitarlessons]

@@chuckpotockimusic2288 Telling other people they shouldn't be playing, huh? This coming from a guy that can't step out of 1975. Alright, Chuck. Get some perspective.

[@notmyname3681]

@@chuckpotockimusic2288 what a douche. Go learn some new chords or something.

[@giusepperesponte8077]

I’ve had better results with locking tuner when compared with any other method. The only thing more secure is a Floyd rose nut locker. Again, just my experience.

[@WildWildWeasel]

There are Floyd Rose fixed locking systems too, they use a similar bridge with micro tuners but it’s only the bridge and the locking nut.

[@MelloState]

Evertune

[@Bobby-wn5yr]

You know it’s a valid technology when someone has to make a rant about how you don’t need it.

[@lonerjuan]

So that's how you took it... everything's got to be a fight, huh?

[@thatpittdude5255]

Ive been playing since 2017 and ive always just stuck the string through, pulled real tight, and then wound the tuning peg

[@JustinSgalio]

In Top 5 of all guitar related videos ever created.

[@lonerjuan]

I'm sending this to my grandma.

[@blank-re8qv]

interesting. orchestra strings wind without any lockers, we do it with the same pinched string technique. of course, the peg runs perpendicular to how guitars have it, but the idea is still the same.

[@lonerjuan]

I didn't know that. Thanks for that!

[@cr4a5h65]

Man’s called the camera a douch bag 😂😂

[@sebastian993]

as someone that didn't have locking tuners for some 40 years, yeah you need locking tuners

[@tylerthompson1842]

Locking tuners are not just good for tuning stability, they also make it extremely easy to change a broken string at a gig.

[@lonerjuan]

I know, but if you get used to the manual wind, then the time difference becomes negligible (this normally takes me less than 10 seconds), and you save hundreds (or thousands, if you have a lot of guitars).

[@sweetbastianful]

The main point for locking tuners is the amount of string between the winding and the first point of tension. With locking tuners, the distance is drastically reduce, so as strings get stretched out from playing, there isn’t much material for the string to stretch. Your way of winding is pretty useful for sure tho

[@stricknine8623]

Locking tuners are still easier on string changes than any alternative. I never "needed" them, I just like them.

[@mrblues1981]

i love my locking tuners ,soo easy and hold the tune

[@BavonWW]

My father wouldn't teach me a chord or scale on the guitar until I could tune it. It puts you in touch with your instrument. He wouldn't even let me use a tuning fork; believe me, it's a real help. Of course, when electric tuners came along I got one to help out with session work but I still tend to tune by feel and ear. I'm sure that there are videos on the Web that explain all this. Reading Pythagoras is a help.

[@lonerjuan]

Pythagorean stuff on music and match is some of the most fascinating shit ever! I'm an electronics engineer and build effects, so Pythagoras is like all my favorite things mashed together.

[@chewbaccacabra1531]

I cannot disagree with you more. I did this for YEARS, then finally got locking tuners. Locking tuners hold tuning on most strings longer.

[@stiandarell9925]

The locking mechanism in a locking tuner doesn’t help for staying in tune tho. Although they’re mostly better quality, so if you upgraded the tuners on a guitar you struggled with staying in tune, it’s probably because they’re just better quality. I have a tele with locking tuners, and a Taylor without locking, and won’t bother what this guy does. Both guitars stays in tune for half an eternity 😂😎

[@Thedoza]

@@stiandarell9925 huh? Locking tuners definitely improve tuning stability, that's not even up for debate.

[@ryans9029]

@@Thedoza they only help is you are installing strings poorly.. They do nothing of you do it right..

[@stiandarell9925]

@@Thedoza i think my comment proves everything. If you string a guitar with locking tuners, but string it like normal tuners without using the locking mechanism, you won’t notice much difference. 😊

[@BigIronTexas]

if you have no loops of guitar string around the post you absolutely will achieve greater tuning stability. when you use your trem the loops around the posts loosen and tighten just a bit each time, which can, and often does, cause a pitch shift. locking tuners can eliminate that situation from the tuning stability equation.

[@jonasahlen9049]

Less turns around the pole, less stretch problems vs less turns around the pole more likely to glide. Locking Tuners eliminate those two problems. But yeah… Most people doesn’t know how to string a guitar.

[@gtotheottreu]

What's fucked up is I have a telecaster with locking tuners and still wrap my strings

[@terminatort-sf5xm]

everyone needs locking tunners, i hear you

[@blazedkromer8922]

Man calls his camera a douchbag, felt that

[@tomtoms15]

He needs to be nice, maybe camera had a rough kidhood or got bullied

[@willson1646]

Yeah never thought that locking tuners were what I needed for staying in pitch it's true temperament frets that one needs.

[@lonerjuan]

I can't imagine how you even begin to make those. I've seen them, they make sense, but it like wizardry to me. Does it feel "normal" to play with them? Is going back to regular like everything is out of tune now?

[@willson1646]

Making them is one thing. An they feel normal once you get used to them, but it's not like that takes very long, least in my experience. An I'd say not really, we're talking minor differences depending on guitars, harmonics, overtones, and most importantly - you (the player).

[@MintStiles]

No body NEEDS locking tuners if they learn some care when dealing with strings. However, locking tuners make it so much easier, so why not? BTW, on a guitar with no setup problems, having too many windings is often why string don't come back to tune when you bend or use the vibrato.

[@spleefthedude7747]

When you wind it first to make sure the string doesn’t overlap itself

[@lonerjuan]

Then with no overlaps, it's easy and trouble free to remove them.

[@PiPArtemis]

A self locking method I learned on youtube was >run string through hole >pull string back about 1 fret to give some slack >at the post; take the excess of the string twist it clockwise 1/2 turn around the post going UNDER the string >bend the end of the string over the main section of string and wind it tight with the machine Now the end of the string is being pinched against the tuning peg and locked in under the tension of the string. I've never had one slip on any of my guitars, it's super fast, and you can trim the string excess really small keeping everything super clean up top

[@PiPArtemis]

Found it!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/paHQmGmigJ15obs

[@lonerjuan]

It's often called the "luthier's knot", but it's the "knot" part that annoys me when removing the strings. It works great though.

[@androtaz1]

You are doing it WRONG. And lockers are way better. Fight me

[@lonerjuan]

You're adorable!

[@rikydanialnasri9669]

Oooh my~~

[@__lasevix_]

No one ever gonna fight a comment like that lmao

[@Frey_00]

Filipino Guitarists: **PATHETIC**

[@scoutstevenson4775]

I also don't need to clean my guitar and headstock but I do...and you should too!!

[@mycofairbanks3321]

Locking tuners cost ??? A guitar polish costs ??? God bless you for getting the best. I will spend a little extra time winding my strings properly

[@diegoflores3831]

Need them no? Do they make life way easier? Absolutely fucking yes

[@rillloudmother]

i remember when i found out that locking tuners only grab the end of the string and do not lock the tuner in place, made me facepalm.

[@cdawg-switchhitter2473]

Dude I try to tell everyone this! This is the best way!!!!

[@acedavis667]

Maybe the best way for novices, not for professional musicians 🙄

[@TheCrevPusher]

Listen, just spend the 50 bucks and buy locking tuners. More tuning stability, and you can change the strings 20%-30% quicker.

[@ryans9029]

It's not faster. Unless you are brain dead.

[@Guitarisforgrins]

@@ryans9029 if it's not faster for you, it is you who is braindead

[@CristiNeagu]

As someone who uses locking tuners... he's right. You don't need locking tuners. But they are nice.

[@WorkshopCompanion]

I was taught by an old guitarist that you dont need to wrap the string around the at all. Just put it through the hole, hold the string and start tightening it. The hard bend that gets put into the string is all you need for it to stay in place. Uve used this for almost a decade and never ran into problems with detuning.

[@austin33785]

You must not ever bend your strings then

[@vexedpixels]

aww man you’re right this is so much easier than turning a screw

[@ozgur5006]

When I start playing guitar locking tuners weren't invented 😅

[@lonerjuan]

And I guess you just had to learn how to string the damn thing.

[@ozgur5006]

@@lonerjuan sink or swim 😂

[@brianlorenzo7084]

I'm a self-taught guitarist playing 10 plus years I have pretty much always string my guitars like this, I've never really seen anyone else to talk about this, also after the pre-winding when you put it through the whole I bend it backwards in the opposite direction as well

[@lonerjuan]

I'm self-taught as well. I couldn't even tell you how I ended up doing it this way, but I've heard from a lot of self-taught players that do the same. Maybe it's got something to do with that, arriving to a method that seems to make sense when you've not been taught anything else, even if it steers away from the traditional way.

[@IndyRockStar]

Try doing that in the middle of a show. Locking tuners are a life saver.

[@lonerjuan]

I have. Once. Now I make sure to have a backup, even though I haven't broken a string since. There's no reason to be changing your own strings in the middle of a show.

[@jordanjerrardjoy2308]

we dont need locking tuners, we just need high quality tuners and the passion to play the guitar but its a nice upgrade to have nonetheless both are amazing

[@lonerjuan]

Absolutely!

[@moneybitches4796]

Floyd rose…

[@lonerjuan]

@@moneybitches4796 ... locking nut?

[@retoricauy]

You saved ny life, thank you sosososososo much

[@lonerjuan]

Look grandma! I'm a hero!* (*internet hero, but still)

[@R1CKD34D]

Another way to do this is measure the string to the next machine head cut and then apply string. Should be about similar to this guys solution.

[@Benjen-gt3dp]

the way he said pitch sounds like 🧍‍♀️

[@lonerjuan]

You mean bitch? Because yea, it does.

[@FrogToadBug]

Of course no one needs locking tuners. But they're so much easier to restring than this

[@professorpancakes6545]

I wouldn't describe winding a string around a bit of metal three times as not easy.

[@FrogToadBug]

@@professorpancakes6545 it's easy to string a guitar badly. It takes skill to string it well, so the strings won't slip under heavy tremolo use.

[@professorpancakes6545]

@@FrogToadBug Tremolo? You mean vibrato?

[@FrogToadBug]

@@professorpancakes6545 Fender calls it a tremolo, same thing.

[@professorpancakes6545]

@@FrogToadBug Fender got it wrong, though. It's not the same thing at all. Vibrato is the name of the effect produced when *pitch* is modulated. Tremolo is the name of the effect produced when *amplitude* is modulated. Totally different. Just because fender got it wrong a long time ago, doesn't mean we all have to keep getting it wrong!

[@cwheels01]

"You do not. need. locking tuners." *Proceeds to string a guitar in a manner I didn't even know existed.*

[@lonerjuan]

The internets are full of the weirdest shit.

[@osmacar5331]

Not needed, but useful to have and easier to operate.

[@GoatHeadTed]

I like that you turned the key with your fingers when the tuning crank is right there 😂

[@lonerjuan]

There's no need to wind all that much, by the time I start doing it I'm already tuning anyway. The crank is pointless at that stage.

[@SparrowHawk183]

Sure, you don't *need* locking tuners, but they sure make changing strings way easier and improve tuning stability. But it's totally a matter of preference; in music, and in life, there are rarely absolutes.

[@brucemerryman7365]

I just go to Sweetwater and they put them on for me👍🏻

[@lonerjuan]

That's like going to a CVS every time you need to wipe your own asshole!

[@brucemerryman7365]

@@lonerjuan I wasn’t aware they offer that service. Lucky me we have a CVS close by!

[@lonerjuan]

Make sure to get the "Powder Package". That tushy will surely thank you!

[@gericko4931]

@@lonerjuan Lol

[@davidseto6508]

Old school dude! That’s standard technology for restringing. They use fine tuners at the bridge for modern guitars these days!

[@risue08]

If you're onstage and a string on your favourite guitar snaps, pretty sure maintenance on locking tuners would be quicker.

[@lonerjuan]

I've received this one a lot, but if I'm on stage, it's not really problem to deal with. In comes the backup, while someone else deals with it, provided there is someone to do it, in which case a full song should be enough time regardless of the tuners. Otherwise, I'm not stopping the show to change a string myself, but even if I had to and there was no way around it, the full video is under 60 seconds, explanation and all. I'm sure I can throw a couple dumb jokes in the meantime.

[@risue08]

I'll have to agree with that. Though locking tuners are an available option for those who want a quicker process without winding. Making it a more convenient and consistent process.

[@lonerjuan]

You do not have to agree with anything, especially when it comes from me. I'm an awful example, no matter how convincing I might sound. Seriously, I once made a happy face with my breakfast fruit, then proceeded to stab the banana and somehow sold the incident to my wife as therapeutic. I repeat, you do not need to agree with anything!

[@phantommlord]

“Don’t move the camera douchebag” I’m laughing so hard

[@Guitarisforgrins]

This video is terrible

[@lonerjuan]

Any tips on what would make it better?

[@Guitarisforgrins]

@@lonerjuan accurate information

[@lonerjuan]

@@Guitarisforgrins Don't beat around the bush. If you have something specific, go on. And say something original please, a lot has been said already.

[@yeahnahyeah3883]

@@Guitarisforgrins worst feedback

[@lonerjuan]

@@drew_peabawls13 You seem to do that a lot. It's the second time you've done it with this video alone. Or maybe you just ran out of hacky one-liners.

[@curtjohansen5742]

Locking tuners are for convenience and tuning stability.The less winds the less chance at string slippage.

[@r6thicctom369]

I ran 1.5 turns on a 12 guage and never had to tune it but when i swiched to 10 guage i had to tune it evry time i played