You don’t need Q on Tank Gragas | Champions Queue

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[@simons9264]

jamaican gragas be like bombaclaat

[@gilnass1]

i really like ur gameplay dude, vision and mechanical godlike big fan from Brazil

[@Xull042]

I don't understand the advantage of not taking a single point in Q. Like even at lvl 8 or something? What does another point in E brings, is it the treshold to 1 shot caster with W+E? If not I feel like it should be better to evade a gank, etc. to have at least the Q slow. Thanks if someone is smarter than me here !

[@andrewjia5890]

idea is gragas runs out of mana before hp, only use abilities when passive is up. and w is lowest mana cost, using q basically costs 2w's

[@Xull042]

@@andrewjia5890 ye i kind of get that, and if you don't have Q you can't use it, but if you have 1 point in it and never use it except for ganks its not si bad tho.. maybe it requires too much self restrain tho 🤣

[@Kim-tr5op]

no need for Q when playing tank gragas

[@Oriol_jesusdnazarekt]

@@andrewjia5890 i think you should still take it for the slow/set up lvl 1, but ust never use it to poke/trade no?

[@KCKSkel]

Ye I think the same, even if you dont use Q in tank match up, I would still pick it at least at lvl 8 if not 4 for the case scenario you need a slow, but ye w/e, it doesn't make too much of a difference in a lane like this, especially when you get gifted a fb like that lol

[@chonyun1991]

What are those orange things on ground at 16:40 and what do they give you besides ms

[@PanosLog]

Those are the effect of the infernal rift starting next season. they give adaptive force for sure I didn't know about MS

[@chonyun1991]

doesnt look like they give any adaptive if you look at stats on left of his hud@@PanosLog

[@seandunbar6427]

Haste

[@RealSolidusSnake]

Map design is questionable, looks like certain sides get advantages

[@seandunbar6427]

That's already the case....

[@primecr0nic921]

Same thing in chess and any other game ever, they’re not completely “fair” and that’s ok.

[@andreilucasgoncalves1416]

Blue side has advantage over red side, some champs like quinn has 57% win rate in blue side and 49% on red side, that is the reason for the changes

[@jxstified7558]

I dislike the way league players call out I wish it was more like FPS games instead of people just never taking a second to not talk and making it feel like they are just telling you what to do all the time, I couldnt do it.

[@joshpointoh]

I'm obviously not a pro in either, but it seems like League requires a little more talking than FPS. They probably talk a lot more than they need, but optimally I bet it's quite a bit more than FPS. Just think about tracking cooldowns alone requires a decent amount. I don't mean typing flash timers, but how long on a Q, how long on an opponent CC, etc. Every few seconds of a teamfight each champ does things not everyone could have seen

[@cal7214]

you my friend do not understand the importance of information in league

[@mixbag8399]

You also don’t have to listen for footsteps or scope ins in league

[@geke7381]

other way around for me lol. i hate how in fps comms they just shout out random fucking words because apparently thats how some generic ass spot is called

[@bluerum896]

maybe league is not an fps games and therefore requires a different style of comms? the information that everyone is saying is incredibly smooth and something that should be communicated to teammates. the amount of information in league is much more different than the information that you need to relay in cs:go for example