You Don’t Understand GTA 5’s Story - I Spent 10000 Hours Discovering Franklin’s Untold Lore

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DarkViperAU

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Explore the hidden depths of Franklin Clinton's character in the hit video game, Grand Theft Auto 5, as we uncover the intriguing story elements that often go unnoticed. Franklin is more than just a skilled criminal; he's a complex character with a rich background. Join us on a journey to understand his family dynamics, interactions with other main characters, and his life within the CGF gang.
Discover the intense rivalry between Franklin and Stretch, one of the main antagonists in the game. We'll delve into the origins of their beef, their conflicting philosophies within the gang hierarchy, and how it all unfolds throughout the game's storyline. What drove them apart, and how did their animosity affect the gang dynamics?
Furthermore, we'll shed light on Franklin's relationship with Tanisha and Lamar, exploring the emotional complexities that shape his character. Tanisha's departure and Lamar's involvement in the gang add layers of depth to Franklin's story. Don't miss out on this in-depth analysis of Franklin Clinton's narrative in Grand Theft Auto 5.
0:00 What was Franklin and Stretch's beef about.
14:47 What happened to Franklin's parents?
15:40 What happened between Franklin and Tanisha
24:00 How does neither Michael or Franklin remember they met at the beginning of the game?
24:49 Why does Franklin not get the choice to take out Trevor and Michael?
26:02 Why does Lamar give Chop to Franklin?
27:55 How does Franklin know who Martin Madrazo is?
29:00 Are normal people aware of Franklin having magical driving powers?
29:43 Are Franklin and Lamar really friends?
33:22 Why did Franklin not suggest Lamar as a gunmen in any of the heists?
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@ViperRambles
@ViperRambles 5 ай бұрын
- Sorry for all the censors. The 149 times that the f-word and n-word were said was too much for KZbin so they’d always age-gate and demonetised the video. - I do not consider the job mentioned by Franklin on the Paleto Score to be a “heist” he did with Lamar. I was speaking more of the large scale jobs frequent in the game. - Yes, Gerald in online sends us after the Ballas. CGF didn’t like the Ballas, there was just no formal hostilities. In the same way Lamar was willing to “stealthily” kidnap D, Gerald is willing to send us who doesn’t belong to the CGF to steal from the Ballas. He wouldn’t do this himself. Either that, or this was just written later.
@benmo5947
@benmo5947 5 ай бұрын
No Problem. Just dont say the n-word anymore Matto.
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 5 ай бұрын
Gerald is also only on the level of Lamar, not Stretch
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134
@skeletonbuyingpealts7134 5 ай бұрын
@@zimzimma2.0 Yup
@LOL_MANN
@LOL_MANN 5 ай бұрын
gg
@xXLesterGamingXx
@xXLesterGamingXx 5 ай бұрын
N word ⁉️⁉️⁉️☝️😳😳
@Blade_88
@Blade_88 5 ай бұрын
Lamar getting recognized while kidnapping D might’ve been the funniest thing in the whole game
@dannybrezelhorner2715
@dannybrezelhorner2715 4 ай бұрын
The license plate on the van he goes around doing crime in says "LAMAR"
@joeylynn5425
@joeylynn5425 3 ай бұрын
😊😊😊😊😊😊
@hectorsanchez1377
@hectorsanchez1377 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of ryder. “It aint me fool”
@Wong-Dee
@Wong-Dee Ай бұрын
No wonder Franklin knew he was bad luck getting into his new life with Trevor and Micheal. Bro got his name in his car like a cartoon with their name on their shirt ☠️
@adamgill9730
@adamgill9730 Ай бұрын
​@@hectorsanchez1377 Yeah
@its0gravity
@its0gravity 5 ай бұрын
35 mins to tell us michael wasnt in witness protection
@Plate_Productions
@Plate_Productions 5 ай бұрын
Witness protection? No one was convicted of anything
@dracozain1023
@dracozain1023 5 ай бұрын
😂
@TasBox
@TasBox 5 ай бұрын
To be fair he coulda taken a lot longer to get that point across 😂
@hostilesavage4299
@hostilesavage4299 5 ай бұрын
Would have been even longer if he included your mom 😂
@jasewilliams2055
@jasewilliams2055 5 ай бұрын
This might be the joke of the morning for me
@nulllord2883
@nulllord2883 5 ай бұрын
You might have missed one clear indicator about why Lamar isn't an option for a heist gunman and gotten one fact slightly incorrect. According to the Paleto Score dialogue, the first bank heist Franklin pulled was with Lamar. Thus Lamar did in fact have some experience in heists previously. It is also implied that since Franklin was just the getaway driver, Lamar must have been the one that actually was responsible for getting the cash and ultimately responsible for the dye packs being included, causing the heist to fail completely. It makes a lot of sense that Franklin would not want someone who has already proven to cause a heist to fail to be included in another one.
@welheizel9682
@welheizel9682 5 ай бұрын
this '' wait man, let me do this and i'll include you soon'' still happens in gtao despite franklin being THE boss, it is quite clear to everyone that Lamar just fucks up everything and doesn't learn, ever, the low skill heist members u can pick do fuck up in their first heist but are still an option for the next because their skill increases
@Meurth
@Meurth 5 ай бұрын
It also makes a lot of sense that Lamar would've failed horribly at that job
@riiaz
@riiaz 5 ай бұрын
What if Franklin didn't want lamar to be a gunman cos, yk, he might die
@cottoneyejoe8285
@cottoneyejoe8285 5 ай бұрын
​​@@welheizel9682Such as Karim Denz, who in the jewel store job brings the bikes for the wrong terrain and also can't navigate the sewer system, but his failure motivates him to do better on the bureau raid and bring an ambulance for a stealthy getaway.
@welheizel9682
@welheizel9682 5 ай бұрын
@@riiaz i think that goes against what Franklin says in chop ''Look homie, I don't mind dying. You feel me? But I just want to die with something that matters, homie. That's what Forum Gangsters should really be about." Franklin didn't want lamar in fearing he'd die, he probably didn't want him in fearing he'd get everyone else killed or arrested
@flamingburritto
@flamingburritto 5 ай бұрын
I always thought stretch was just generic bad guy character. But now i can at least understand why exactly he acted the way he did. Even if it doesn't make him a "good guy", I understand his motivations and philosophy.
@Me_Myself_Maly
@Me_Myself_Maly 4 ай бұрын
This video has reminded me of two things: - The voice acting in this game is freaking amazing - Lamar and Franklin have the most genuine relationship in this game
@Frazzledragon
@Frazzledragon 5 ай бұрын
I absolutely do not remember ever being phoned by Stretch, and him demanding dues. This was informative. Neither did I realise that Stretch was trying to peace out with the Ballas, after LD's big time fuckup.
@nope4034
@nope4034 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. I never had those phone calls
@raymanmann8132
@raymanmann8132 5 ай бұрын
@@nope4034you have to call him I think, unless it just takes a long time
@tmoney3298
@tmoney3298 5 ай бұрын
You have to call him yourself it’s one of them hidden phone calls
@Exponaut_R-01
@Exponaut_R-01 5 ай бұрын
Thought I was the only one, the hidden details of phone numbers in this game are great.
@starkiller008
@starkiller008 5 ай бұрын
@@tmoney3298 They don't always work. It's not a guarantee that you can. It usually just says hang out on the call list.
@tonyshum5569
@tonyshum5569 5 ай бұрын
Stretch spent his life working his ass off, and paying the higher ups, just dreaming of one day "retiring" and becoming a higher up himself so he gets paid by the small fry, but said small fry no longer buys into that shit rendering his past struggles and everything he's been looking forward to pointless, like an abusive parent realizing the abuse they suffered from their own parents aren't working on their kids anymore.
@AJayZy
@AJayZy 5 ай бұрын
The first comment with some actual insight man, thank you.
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim 4 ай бұрын
Funny how they followed the Chinese triads way of organising themselves
@midnightcas9995
@midnightcas9995 2 ай бұрын
Very succinct way to put it. Makes his anger a bit more understandable.
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms 2 ай бұрын
@@stellviahohenheim That's how most organized crime works. However, the more organized groups like Triads and Yakuza have a more rigid structure which isn't just "I'm rich now, so now I'm making you pay me money." It's far more like a military structure, where the senior members have to actually do something to justify their existence to their superiors
@hakshustletv
@hakshustletv 2 ай бұрын
He wanted to become the modern day Sweet but instead is more like Smoke. Look at what Big smoke did, his ideas, ambitions and everything it cost him and now analyse Stretch, Franklin and Lamar. Smoke wanted the money, power but more importantly, he was willing to click up with Ballas and put the past behind him in order to make that move happen. Sweet and CJ were in the way so he targeted them and tried to get them out of the way. Stretch is Smoke, Franklin and Lamar is CJ and Sweet, regardless of their position in things, the bottom line was, they couldn't be controlled or counted on to change their stance and go along with Stretch & Smokes plans.
@ahmedmuhammadawi
@ahmedmuhammadawi 5 ай бұрын
Honestly Stretch is sympathetic. Well of course he actually isn't, murders and gangs and assassinations are bad, but in the world of GTA, he isn't actually bad like I thought he was. If Lamar was anything except a main character, if he wasn't Franklin's friend, if he wasn't one of the fan favorite characters, if he was instead a side character and the story centered on Stretch instead. Having to sacrifice that random gang member who went too far and started an entire war between two gangs, and to bring peace between them, is something that would be sympathetic and normal in the world of GTA protagonists. No player would really care about killing Lamar. The only reason we hate Stretch is because Lamar is our friend, but his goal makes sense.
@varadsalunkhe9008
@varadsalunkhe9008 5 ай бұрын
yeah this gave me insight into stretches character the only thing he did wrong was cross franklin and try to hurt his friend otherwise he was all good heck he didnt even try to get franklin get killed he was probably just little angry because of franklin not paying him but thats it if Lamar wasnt franklins friend he could have lived
@therranolleo468
@therranolleo468 5 ай бұрын
In another GTA game our MC could've likely gotten a mission to dispose of of Frank and Lamar as a story given from Strech lol
@yeetman8540
@yeetman8540 5 ай бұрын
​@@therranolleo468yeah that was basically what happened to jim in gta 4, dude was johnny's closest friend in tlad but was quickly taken out by niko for betraying the mafia
@Delvokian
@Delvokian 5 ай бұрын
It's also really interesting how most people, including myself, never even notice because we are just seeing one side of the story.
@kurtpunchesthings2411
@kurtpunchesthings2411 5 ай бұрын
yea in fairness to Stretch you can't blame him for what he did Lamar dumbass did some stupid ass shit that was going to start a war and Stretch was like yea if i can sacrifice 1 dumbass to prevent many of my friends dying e z
@Henlak-
@Henlak- 5 ай бұрын
This has been one of my favourite series. Shame you're out of main characters to explore
@hmpys
@hmpys 5 ай бұрын
Chop episode up next
@supakungfumastah7789
@supakungfumastah7789 5 ай бұрын
Wildlife (Cougar) lore when?
@DarkElixir-iz7jk
@DarkElixir-iz7jk 5 ай бұрын
He could probably do Lamar next
@montagneresmontagneres8346
@montagneresmontagneres8346 5 ай бұрын
Lesteeeeeeer
@issam3260
@issam3260 5 ай бұрын
Jimmy
@sirilthefirst8971
@sirilthefirst8971 5 ай бұрын
I find it actually really interesting, and something I never thought about. Stretch never tries to set up Franklin. Even tho they HATED each other, Stretch decided to only give up Lamar. He really did try to look out for his gang
@BlandSpagetti
@BlandSpagetti 5 ай бұрын
It kinda makes sense when you realize Franklin was at the end of the day just along for the ride most of that shit was Lamar instigating and planning
@dryskin9890
@dryskin9890 5 ай бұрын
Yeah but Franklin kinda left that life when he got involved with Michael and Trevor. Especially when he moves into his house in Vinewood Hills.
@Druffmaul
@Druffmaul 5 ай бұрын
He probably would have set Franklin up if he could. He set up Lamar because he was dumb and easy to manipulate.
@allanorme2093
@allanorme2093 5 ай бұрын
He knew Franklin wouldn't be as gullible. Or maybe he knew that Franklin was surrounding himself with more people, i mean he brought Trevor to Grove st and that's how they found out the brick is drywall. And whenever Franklin is seen around town he's seen with this "inconspicuous white man". i mean all the times he set up Lamar is when Franklin had already moved out so that means he wasn't planning on Franklin tagging along, He probably told Lamar to not tell Franklin about the mill. That's why everyone except Franklin knew
@SoraFan23
@SoraFan23 5 ай бұрын
If Lamar never did the whole thing with D from the Ballas maybe this whole thing would never happen.
@skynet0912
@skynet0912 5 ай бұрын
I think Franlins "change" that gets him a family, is more due to him mostly giving up the "boots on the ground" grunt work, where he can end up dead in a ditch somewhere. So when his illegal schemes became much less about possible getting shot or shanked, Tanisha saw him as still being true to himself like she wanted him to be, while making her feel safe enough in a relationship. And let's be honest here... The normal healthy relationships in this game would still be considered toxic in the real world, so the fact that Tanisha still has reservations about what Franklin does, that's basicly the best possible relationship as far as this game is concerned...
@nineg9963
@nineg9963 5 ай бұрын
Yeah also definitely think Tanisha just got bored and started to dislike that lifestyle with the brain surgeon
@skynet0912
@skynet0912 5 ай бұрын
@@nineg9963 True... It would honestly make sense that she had many of the same issues facing reality as Franklin does given their similar background, so she sorta made herself feel better by projecting that insecurity on Franklin in some way...
@mcbamm5683
@mcbamm5683 5 ай бұрын
@@nineg9963judging from the in game social media posts she probably got sick of his covert racism: ala ‘Teaching me table manners’ and ‘correcting my pronunciation’.
@SoraFan23
@SoraFan23 5 ай бұрын
It is possible that something bad must've happened between Tanisha and Jaiden to break up and she went back to Franklin. I think maybe she relaized her mistakes.
@My_Old_YT_Account
@My_Old_YT_Account 5 ай бұрын
I think it's just shit writing in gta online
@MrGarryGrey
@MrGarryGrey 5 ай бұрын
Ending C was meant to kill Franklin and Lamar replace him as playable character. Lamar's VA revealed that this year (I think) in AMA. He was busy irl, so Rockstar didn't have time to make it. Honestly, I initially picked ending C and expected Franklin to die (considering skull icon on the phone). Seemed like a good outcome, Franklin not being a coward/traitor.
@jaxjams7921
@jaxjams7921 5 ай бұрын
that’s fits the theme best to me the ending you pick should be the lesson you think franklin learned he either learns to put himself first or learns to be loyal
@Litterbugtaylor
@Litterbugtaylor 5 ай бұрын
Didn't he go to jail? Pretty sure that was said at one point, so yes technically busy
@one-nu2dh
@one-nu2dh 5 ай бұрын
​@@Litterbugtaylor method acting is crazy nowdays
@damianstachelski775
@damianstachelski775 5 ай бұрын
@@one-nu2dh😂😂
@varadsalunkhe9008
@varadsalunkhe9008 5 ай бұрын
I am glad they didnt go for it then cause deathwish is an good ending that I think does more justice to all the main characters
@ViperRambles
@ViperRambles 5 ай бұрын
Sorry for all the censors. The 149 times that the f-word and n-word were said was too much for KZbin so they’d always age-gate and demonetised the video.
@C4Atlas
@C4Atlas 5 ай бұрын
its np. You forgot one at 18:47 btw. Idk if it affects the video
@EkulTeabag
@EkulTeabag 5 ай бұрын
I did notice a couple of uncensored N-word and F-words, so it could have been worse.
@MrFreakRite
@MrFreakRite 5 ай бұрын
You put up this comment while I was watching during a long strong string of bloops. The noise used here is so much less annoying than other censorships, I was laughing about it.
@Thiago-co7oo
@Thiago-co7oo 5 ай бұрын
its funny actually, it reminds how many slurs the game have and how often the characters says them. Great video👍
@SakariNy
@SakariNy 5 ай бұрын
To be honest I found the choise of censor sound funi
@SelectBard133
@SelectBard133 4 ай бұрын
Ngl biggest takeaway from this is Stretch is actually... kinda a sensible and thought-out character. Like the character motivations are a lot stronger there than I ever pieced together.
@hakshustletv
@hakshustletv 2 ай бұрын
It's a disguise for his selfish ambition. Stretch is the lesser version of Big Smoke. Their front is "let's make peace and all be friends and we can make money together" when in fact it's about one rising to the top and controlling everyone and everything. Stretch isn't built like that but he wanted to be the shot caller and would be willing to dismantle the majority of Grove Street if it meant his ambitions being realised.
@luketalbot2643
@luketalbot2643 5 ай бұрын
I never really thought about the beef between Stretch and Franklin like this, it's a really nice explanation. Frank has imo pretty solid views on gang hierarchy, but Stretch also has equal reason to be like "These two fools are too much of a liability". Nice take!
@AidGum
@AidGum 5 ай бұрын
Well, it’s more just the Lanky Dumbass that’s a liability. He didn’t really have a reason to get Franklin killed other than to be petty.
@RichieRickyWiiSports
@RichieRickyWiiSports 5 ай бұрын
I wish there were more missions involving CGF
@12380738
@12380738 5 ай бұрын
Same, I didn't even realize that was a thing
@kikosawa
@kikosawa 5 ай бұрын
Play GTA San Andreas
@Lunarslay
@Lunarslay 5 ай бұрын
wouldn't make sense as franklin was tryna leave the gangs
@justanotheranimeprofilepic
@justanotheranimeprofilepic 5 ай бұрын
I don't think the CGF would be my choice but definitely seeing Lamar and Franklin starting or maintaining Forum Gangsters in the early game would've been nice.
@NeeKaps
@NeeKaps 5 ай бұрын
@@kikosawathats not CGF
@Jane-qh2yd
@Jane-qh2yd 5 ай бұрын
I know this is a heavily unpopular opinion, but Franklin is absolutely my favorite character in GTA V. His overall levelheadedness makes him become an outlier in the world of Los Santos. I love seeing the way people just use him as a punching bag and treat him differently for being a normal dude. It also helps that I think that he has the funniest dialogue out of the 3 protagonists
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov 5 ай бұрын
You and franklin are both straight Busters - Ryder from gta afterlife
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov 5 ай бұрын
Why do you type like a redditor lol
@6z0
@6z0 5 ай бұрын
Definitely an unpopular opinion. Michael is on top
@asscheeks3212
@asscheeks3212 5 ай бұрын
How the heck is this unpopular?! He's the only NORMAL guy in the trio. The other two are mentally unstable! Every story needs an everyman or average Joe to root for! Franklin fits that. Chad sanity vs Virgin Crazies
@i.theworstguys298
@i.theworstguys298 5 ай бұрын
@@asscheeks3212 I wouldn’t call Franklin totally sane. He is 100% crazy and shows zero regard for everyone not within arms reach of him. He is just comparatively ‘more normal’ than the other two.
@artemkatelnytskyi
@artemkatelnytskyi 5 ай бұрын
I've never accepted the idea that Michael, Franklin and Trevor had "magical superpowers" in the literal sense of the word. Michael is an experienced shooter and Franklin is a talented driver. How do you translate it into the game, if the characters are as good as the person playing? That's right, you give Michael bullet time and you give Franklin the ability to slow down time while driving. It makes perfect sense. As for Trevor, his ability is the adrenaline kicking in when he is consumed by rage. And people are capable of crazy things on adrenaline, including surviving for longer. So his ability makes perfect sense as well. In addition, since GTA V is the first GTA game with more than one playable character, the abilities further differentiate the characters and give you the reason to switch between them. Choosing a driver on I Fought the Law? Franklin is an obvious choice. Fighting in a shootout? Michael and Trevor are preferable and so on. The abilities don't make GTA V a fantasy game, lol.
@therranolleo468
@therranolleo468 5 ай бұрын
Strech was probably one of the 3 baddies that has reasonable reasoning for what he did, the other 2 mofos got what they deserved but knowing Strech was probably just trying to keep the 2 gangs away from what they were back in 2005 gives him more depth.
@Kiid-bn8lb
@Kiid-bn8lb 5 ай бұрын
Why’d you call him a baddie😭
@unequivocalsuffering2734
@unequivocalsuffering2734 5 ай бұрын
@@Kiid-bn8lbBaddie as in a bad guy
@absolution6191
@absolution6191 5 ай бұрын
​@@unequivocalsuffering2734Its sounds sus as hell
@beegpappa7900
@beegpappa7900 5 ай бұрын
@@absolution6191 You're sus
@TheEvilStranger
@TheEvilStranger 5 ай бұрын
Only real ones know how much more work he had to put in to censor all the Fs and Hard Rs. Video still flows smoothly. Nice work
@xTRTSCx
@xTRTSCx 5 ай бұрын
"put in"
@NB_SZN
@NB_SZN 5 ай бұрын
Since when did this “comments by members” exist lol
@TheEvilStranger
@TheEvilStranger 5 ай бұрын
insert wide putin meme@@xTRTSCx
@vHyla
@vHyla 5 ай бұрын
@@NB_SZNik its so annoying
@Zeroshiki
@Zeroshiki 5 ай бұрын
What hard Rs are in this game ?
@AlecJahanshahi
@AlecJahanshahi 5 ай бұрын
You mentioned in the video that you don't believe there's anybody who directly references Michael's (or Trevor's) special ability. There is one event where Tracy says something along the lines of "my dad never misses!" which is obviously a reference to Michael's special ability.
@wadephony9954
@wadephony9954 4 ай бұрын
I always attributed Trevor's to his methamphetamine use lol
@notyours807
@notyours807 5 ай бұрын
I like Franklin. It seems that his story is him learning to make his own choices, especially about his own thoughts of loyalty. After all, he says "It seem like all I do is let people tell me what to do and I do it and nothing changes" but at the end, he defies the FIB and Devin Weston to choose option C.
@yashuab.2979
@yashuab.2979 5 ай бұрын
Yep, he either covers only his back with option A or B, or he covers everyones back with C. Option C is like the correct answer, the question is “Have you been listening to the story? Do you know what Franklin must do?” Michael gets opportunities, Trevor saves our asses, now Franklin brings them together.
@hydrodex8409
@hydrodex8409 4 ай бұрын
Thats why option c is the canon ending
@dangerousnoodle8779
@dangerousnoodle8779 5 ай бұрын
This is literally the first time I'm hearing any of the Stretch phone calls, and I've finished the story maybe a dozen times over
@MillennialZ666
@MillennialZ666 5 ай бұрын
Another thing about Franklin and Stretch’s beef is that Franklin has always been more smart than Lamar and Stretch can only manipulate Lamar, but seeing as Franklin and Lamar are best friends since young, Stretch sees Franklin as a pain in the ass always messing up his plans. TL:DR : Stretch finds Franklin as a pain in the neck and unable to manipulate him like Lamar
@AJayZy
@AJayZy 5 ай бұрын
Is that why he decided to off Lamar? Did you read that before posting?
@MillennialZ666
@MillennialZ666 2 ай бұрын
@@AJayZyLamar tends to always do something and fk up in the end not just Stretch but in GTA Online Vernon and Gerald sees him as an liability stretch was probably using Lamar until he finds that Lamar doesn’t have much use he decides to have the Ballas take him out
@brandon9689
@brandon9689 5 ай бұрын
Theres a ton of parallels between Franklin's and Gustavo's realizations regarding gang hierarchy. It would have been neat to see more of a friendship between them.
@Zay_WVTTZ
@Zay_WVTTZ 5 ай бұрын
i never thought of that i do wish the gunmen were a little more involved in the story
@wasabi5338
@wasabi5338 4 ай бұрын
judging from Gus' first heist story during Paleto Score he seemed to be more competent than Franklin lmao
@kash_1085
@kash_1085 Ай бұрын
@@wasabi5338 It was Lamar that fcked up Franklins first heist. Franklin was the driver.
@yiikenthusiast4056
@yiikenthusiast4056 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, you always had the option of someone like Rickie Lukens during heist planning, and that crew members do increase in skill after finishing heists, so I thought useless people like Lamar getting recruited in one wasn’t a far-off question.
@andreaswong8829
@andreaswong8829 5 ай бұрын
Problem is Lamar probably would have started low skill gunman and we all know what happens to low skill gunmen in heists lol
@yiikenthusiast4056
@yiikenthusiast4056 5 ай бұрын
@@andreaswong8829 Due to Lamar's relevance in the story, I don't think it would happen. It would be too much change in a very straightforward and strict story.
@fallen_vague28
@fallen_vague28 4 ай бұрын
Except in the game he is shown time and time again that he doesn't exactly learn from his mistakes, so I doubt his skill would've increased by much, if at all
@yiikenthusiast4056
@yiikenthusiast4056 4 ай бұрын
@@fallen_vague28 Skill can come from more than mistakes, like making something more efficient, like a speedrunner would. That being said I still agree with you. That and he'd probably pester everyone for a big cut and get cut out from the heist.
@Cosmic-Bear.
@Cosmic-Bear. 4 ай бұрын
@@yiikenthusiast4056 Then that just kills how dynamic the heists are... you choose the cheap story character who can't die and won't punish you with a bigger cut then most players would choose him and miss on how different the heists could play out. Also, it kills the narrative that Lamar was feeling left out.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 5 ай бұрын
Usually crime stories are all about the rabbit hole and the heartbreak it brings. For Michael, Trevor, and especially Franklin though, the heartbreak is moved to before the story. Explaining Stretch's narrative here and how Franklin and Lamar essentially screwed up a possible truce between the Families and Ballas really makes me realise that the three protagonists did the impossible. They knocked off everyone they had to, and lived to tell the tale, even thriving ten years on as a movie producer, record executive, and life coach. I'd like to imagine none of them canonically took a life after Devin Weston.
@THESHRIMP209
@THESHRIMP209 5 ай бұрын
Wait Trevor became a life coach?
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 4 ай бұрын
@@THESHRIMP209 yep
@copiedoriginal5441
@copiedoriginal5441 5 ай бұрын
I believe Strech recognizes that Franklin is trying to leave the hood which would basically disband the offshoot Forum Gangsters. Essentially Franklin is a problem with no urgency that will self-solve anyways; OGs recognize things like that. Lanky Dumbass on the other hand is a defcon 1 threat that is the root cause of Stretchs concerns
@Skull_Corn
@Skull_Corn 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I dont feel Franklin and Lamars "problems" were "hastily solved" that is just how those type of friendships work. Frakling and Lamar are the type of friends that having been friends so long, nothing could break that bond and sure they had issues but they at their core are best friends who cant stay mad at each other for what they do.
@buckybrown1048
@buckybrown1048 5 ай бұрын
I'd also say that Franklin and Lamar have that kind of relationship. There comes a point between two people when some events solidify the friendship/relationship so much that nothing is capable of breaking it. There can be misunderstandings, quarrels etc., but at the end of the day they can't stay away from one another for long.
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms 2 ай бұрын
As someone with a friend like that, I absolutely agree. When you've been friends that long, you tend to flip flop between despising each other and being willing to die for each other
@csia_4839
@csia_4839 4 ай бұрын
Lamar always talks about how it’s funny that he never met “this Michael dude” but they met within the first 15 minutes of the game, there’s the irony
@popdogfool
@popdogfool 5 ай бұрын
Franklin is one of the payable characters but narrative wise hes a side character. Shame his side wasnt as fleshed out in the main story.
@viv12348
@viv12348 5 ай бұрын
He is kinda the player's avatar. Character who is new to Michael and Trevor's story, but who kinda knows Los Santos already. Franklin's main use is to let us experience the main story from the side and let us experience the classic "getting rich" storyline. Michael is quite wealthy from the start and Trevor's idea of spending money is... interesting. So they gave us a character who just needs to get "there" from the bottom
@popdogfool
@popdogfool 5 ай бұрын
@@viv12348 I'd be interesting to see player data on which characters they use most to see if that idea holds true. Haha
@Perk30-bw7pk
@Perk30-bw7pk 5 ай бұрын
​@@viv12348 facts people dont see this perspective
@STRinor
@STRinor 5 ай бұрын
@@popdogfooldef Franklin just because of his driving ability
@nood1le
@nood1le 5 ай бұрын
​@@popdogfoolgotta be Franklin. Most hip, most young, and a very useful ability.
@HannibalKantter
@HannibalKantter 4 ай бұрын
Seeing old Chop, laying in a comfy bed with his name on it, makes me smile
@abedekok322
@abedekok322 5 ай бұрын
There will be nothing that can truly surpass the dialogue between Lamar and Franklin, not only was it entertaining but showed how deeply rooted their friendship was.
@LouSpowells
@LouSpowells 5 ай бұрын
18:47 - Missed one. Also, you were right. I didn't understand Franklin's story. I never caught onto the Ballers thing and thought of him as being above Michael and Trevor...as in, they screw things up because of their massive personality flaws, and then drag Franklin into it like he's an intern. Never really put it together that all three of them are equally responsible for the BS they keep finding themselves in. In my defense though, I am kind of an idiot.
@SomeOne-vf1rs
@SomeOne-vf1rs 5 ай бұрын
He missed one way earlier too
@nathankurtz8045
@nathankurtz8045 5 ай бұрын
@@SomeOne-vf1rs There's one at 5:07, that what you mean?
@SomeOne-vf1rs
@SomeOne-vf1rs 5 ай бұрын
@@nathankurtz8045 Yeah that’s the one I was referring to thanks
@ghostplasma5590
@ghostplasma5590 5 ай бұрын
Ironically this video helped me understand STRETCH more than Franklin and made me respect him hell of a lot more. He was my least favourite antagonist out of the 4 and after this video he became probably my favourite and Chang became the least favourite.
@adonispsk1145
@adonispsk1145 5 ай бұрын
I can't wait to not understand GTA 6 story just for Matto to make video explaining that Lucia wasn't in witness protection
@munken7673
@munken7673 4 ай бұрын
Plot twist Lucia was never on parole
@HeavenAboveRtas
@HeavenAboveRtas 5 ай бұрын
Wow. I saw you did one for the other characters and tried to search for one of Franklin's merely a couple of hours ago. I was disappointed to not see one of him. Good timing.
@enenra6417
@enenra6417 5 ай бұрын
Tracey mentioned Michael's powers in daddy's little girl because she says "My dad never misses!"
@shaquezr.9541
@shaquezr.9541 3 ай бұрын
That’s awesome tbh
@stonefancypants3355
@stonefancypants3355 5 ай бұрын
28:53 maybe michael didn’t know Madrazo because everything happened before he moved to LS, but Lester being Lester would investigate high profile people from the town he’s living in
@markustalaj6236
@markustalaj6236 5 ай бұрын
Man this series was great! I hope this ain't over and we will see for example some general lore facts for multiple characters!
@BooN877
@BooN877 5 ай бұрын
I learned so much more about Franklin here than after multiple playyhroughs of the story.
@earthisadonut7213
@earthisadonut7213 5 ай бұрын
As someone who played GTA San Andreas too many times. I always thought the Ballas and Families were on bad terms. Leading me to believe that Stretch betrayed CGF to survive in prison as Franklin hints all the time. It also isn't the first time Rockstar didn't change NPC outfits when they betrayed their gang. Big Smoke and Ryder wore green even when they were no longer associated with the Families.
@tin2001
@tin2001 5 ай бұрын
Considering that every single time I play SA, one of the first things I do when gang wars opens up is to destroy every single gang, I was quite surprised the Ballas still existed in 5. 😂
@Dabazuka
@Dabazuka 5 ай бұрын
​​@@tin2001aren't they set in different universes anyway? Or did the gang just fall apart after the leaders left it or something
@varadsalunkhe9008
@varadsalunkhe9008 5 ай бұрын
@@Dabazuka they are set in different universe in 3d universe CJ just wiped ballas out completely
@hakshustletv
@hakshustletv 2 ай бұрын
@@varadsalunkhe9008 Then those same members family would later rep the same gang. That's how it goes. Remember a lot of them would've been in prison as well. (If we were relating it to real life).
@BalkanWeeb
@BalkanWeeb 5 ай бұрын
I never noticed most of the points you made about Stretch, truly an amazing video! With that in mind, what do you think about covering the rest of the antagonists in the next GTA V story video?
@YourFriendJessie
@YourFriendJessie 5 ай бұрын
i liked the pacifist explanation of stretch's story better. "He's a bad person, who does bad things, because he is bad."
@reubenwade6554
@reubenwade6554 5 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this to come out man! Great video, love the content matto ❤
@huellbabineaux7433
@huellbabineaux7433 5 ай бұрын
Videos like this make me appreciate this games story even more than I already do, I love this game so much.
@Moonzz22
@Moonzz22 5 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how Franklin and Tanisha’s relationship(before gta online) is exactly like my situation rn. Except for me being a robber and a killer for that matter.
@owenSHOK
@owenSHOK 5 ай бұрын
???
@HATECELL
@HATECELL 5 ай бұрын
Maybe other characters see Franklin's ability as not too special. Kinda like when gamers lean slightly forward when playing difficult sections, except whilst normal people get a little bit better by doing this Franklin gets a lot better. So maybe they see him as "just a good driver"
@AJayZy
@AJayZy 5 ай бұрын
I mean isn’t that what Michael does too?
@absolution6191
@absolution6191 5 ай бұрын
​@AJayZy I'm confused about what tf Trevor's ability is about then
@AJayZy
@AJayZy 5 ай бұрын
@@absolution6191 Meth and gasoline
@Thall310
@Thall310 4 ай бұрын
@@absolution6191adrenaline
@hakshustletv
@hakshustletv 2 ай бұрын
@@absolution6191 Anger, rage, adrenaline, when you're in those states, often you can do things you never thought you were capable of doing. I'm sure you've seen or heard about someone getting shot but not realising it until that adrenaline rush simmers down.
@fedyx1544
@fedyx1544 5 ай бұрын
Finally, thank you Matto for this video. I know you read many comments and if you read this just know that I've been watching you for years and I profoundly admire your dedication to this game (series). Cheers!
@rngpog4347
@rngpog4347 5 ай бұрын
I can’t tell you how much I enjoyed this video. About 10 times I said to myself “huh I didn’t know that. “ so well researched and edited. Great stuff all round.
@SankofaNYC
@SankofaNYC 4 ай бұрын
Rockstar put sooooo much thought into this game and lore… and just like the world building, car conversations, social media posts in game, text messages, all too tell all of these weaving stories.. I don’t know why some people disliked the singlet player game and story. It was great and well thought out
@pyro934
@pyro934 4 ай бұрын
I'm sure after GTA 6 comes out suddenly everyone gets nostalgic and will say GTA 5's story was better
@SankofaNYC
@SankofaNYC 4 ай бұрын
@@pyro934 lol you are probably right... We all know half of the players will hate the woman solely because she is a woman... Smh it's so ridiculous
@Material_Monkey
@Material_Monkey 3 ай бұрын
I think the problem is that al lot of the optional stuff is important in understanding vital motivations and informations that you just dont get if you dont hear all the conversations, phone calls, hangouts and stuff. Thats why a lot of people dont "get" the story
@FluidThinker
@FluidThinker 2 ай бұрын
This will certainly happen.​@@pyro934
@SankofaNYC
@SankofaNYC Ай бұрын
@@garfieldfan925 in GTA 5 you don’t play as a woman I think…
@rgkong8783
@rgkong8783 5 ай бұрын
POV: *An unhinged man kidnapped you in his basement and explains GTA V lore to you.*
@spooder0080
@spooder0080 5 ай бұрын
Banger of a video as always Although I must say, some cutscenes would benefit from not having a background music, it can be quite distracting
@echo5327
@echo5327 5 ай бұрын
i love this series, as much as i appreciate you talking about issues that matter like reacting, I much more enjoy you talking about shit that doesn't matter that we enjoy. U a knowledgable guy who puts in the time and effort required to give any topic justice, watched this video all the way through
@jacobleoni3300
@jacobleoni3300 5 ай бұрын
I was literally looking through your vids for this one yesterday TYBG
@cc9409
@cc9409 5 ай бұрын
It's so good when someone explains the lore behind a certain story, and in this case, a certain character. I didn't pay much attention to the story of this game, but now that you have these videos abt the lore behind the 3 protagonists I can see that the story in GTA 5 goes deeper in many ways that as you said, most player might just go by. Thank you, and keep up the good work, wish you all the best :DD
@tin2001
@tin2001 5 ай бұрын
When you're playing, it can be hard to fully absorb the story, and very easy to miss the missable scenes that occur in random encounters or when you do missions in non-obvious ways.
@cc9409
@cc9409 5 ай бұрын
@@tin2001 yeah it's true, but it depends on the player too, like I wasn't paying much attention to what was happening, or why was something happening even if was watching the cutscenes, more or less paying attention.
@lolcatzidk
@lolcatzidk 5 ай бұрын
Holy crap, I totally misunderstood Stretch. I really thought he joined the Ballas while still in CGF, so he could play both sides.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 5 ай бұрын
Stretch lived through the chaos and bloodshed of the 90s. It took me til this video to see the kind of unity he was striving for, but it makes total sense. It makes sense that he hates Franklin and Lamar because they were too young to truly understand what the LS gangs went through in the 90s, and they've both broken the mould and rejected the typical gang hierarchy. To him, Lamar is a small sacrifice to broker peace between the gangs. Obviously sacrificing anyone's life like that is wrong, but like most good villains, I understand why Stretch did what he did now.
@AJayZy
@AJayZy 5 ай бұрын
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep”sacrificing someone’s life is wrong” in a gang context is crazy
@hakshustletv
@hakshustletv 2 ай бұрын
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Stretch wants to become Sweet in his mind but doesn't realise he's more like Big Smoke. It's not only about peace, unfortunately, it's about him wanting to be the shot caller. He wants to be the leader, wants the power, the money, the control and from seeing his interactions with Ballas, it already looked like he had a lot of influence over there so he could've easily sat above the Ballas too just like Big Smoke.
@mhobag
@mhobag 5 ай бұрын
finally. I had just rewatched the previous two yesterday actually. please upload more of these lore videos!
@rocketcorgi
@rocketcorgi Ай бұрын
What an amazing video! I genuinely did not know most of this stuff. The three character dynamic really became too much to handle because all of this information is left unknown on the first play-through.
@nadirbaitsaleem7270
@nadirbaitsaleem7270 5 ай бұрын
More GTA lore in general would be great! I always enjoy these videos
@hakku9344
@hakku9344 5 ай бұрын
Since lamar is a 'low skilled' gunman if he was ever a possible heist member. He will be one of the characters that would die in the heist like norm or daryl and that would mess up the plot if he dies.
@imSkEt
@imSkEt 5 ай бұрын
Finally. I was waiting for this for a long time. Amazing content as always
@heniz_beans2
@heniz_beans2 5 ай бұрын
Yes!!!! Thank you matto for making videos lime this with so much deatail, i really enjoy them ❤
@conangaming2156
@conangaming2156 4 ай бұрын
The Families and the Ballas were at peace for 20 years, from 1993 to 2013. That is a pretty good stretch.
@Wojtek_-oz4mt
@Wojtek_-oz4mt 5 ай бұрын
I can't believe how much of this game's story/lore i've missed, so I find these videos interesting.
@TheDiRod
@TheDiRod 5 ай бұрын
Really enjoy this untold lore videos, hoping for more, great job as usual Matt
@thecoolannishatk.
@thecoolannishatk. 5 ай бұрын
Really good video. First time watching you after hearing you for all these months!
@ExecutiveAutomotiveSociety
@ExecutiveAutomotiveSociety 5 ай бұрын
I never thought of the story like this and the value of having such a big community to see all these different angles ask to clarify it. 👊🏻😎
@nogoodgod4915
@nogoodgod4915 5 ай бұрын
I love these lore videos, please make many more.
@user-vq7nf7my8r
@user-vq7nf7my8r 5 ай бұрын
You gain a new subscribers keep doing the good work 💯
@02Raul434
@02Raul434 4 ай бұрын
This has been one of my favorite videos from you yet. You go so in depth and explain very well. I would love more videos like this.
@02Raul434
@02Raul434 4 ай бұрын
Oh my God there's more. Including Michael.
@CarterIsClassic
@CarterIsClassic 5 ай бұрын
Matt, I have a idea, you could do the lore for some of the side characters like Stretch, Steve Haines, Dave Norton, and all of the other characters that are relevant to the story. Or you could do a video explaining all of the strangers and freaks
@tuliobednarczukpecinemisko5606
@tuliobednarczukpecinemisko5606 5 ай бұрын
35:20 This happened with me,when I first played I didn't know Tanisha could appear in other cutscenes other than the final one, so I was very confused when a character that only mentioned in dialogue, emails and Life invader appeared on Franklin's house.
@trulyrandom_
@trulyrandom_ 5 ай бұрын
I beeeeeeen waiting for this. There are other “backstory” videos on KZbin and I know that’s not even what you’re known for but I personally love these
@GoDzMoNeY
@GoDzMoNeY 5 ай бұрын
These are so fun to watch grinding gta just found u and love it❤
@AizazAhsan
@AizazAhsan 5 ай бұрын
Ahhh! Another video Matto explaining me the video game I've never played 😅
@CaptainJZH
@CaptainJZH 5 ай бұрын
You're right with that ending point, I had no idea who tf Tanisha when she finally showed up despite all the supposed importance she had to Franklin, and for the most part I had forgotten mostly about the stuff with Stretch so when he showed up in the final mission I was confused about why we were killing this guy lol
@jeffshepherd1342
@jeffshepherd1342 3 ай бұрын
Feel bad that Shawn Fonteno’s character did not get enough attention during the campaign. I’ve played through the story a bunch and never knew about the lore you brought up. Great video as always 💯
@hanzo2213
@hanzo2213 5 ай бұрын
I can never get tired of your commentary! It’s entertaining. Please make a video about max Payne 3 story or gameplay
@AgentDeathProof
@AgentDeathProof 5 ай бұрын
crazy how i just rewatched the 2 other lore videos yesterday and now franklins lore has released
@arsenal-slr9552
@arsenal-slr9552 5 ай бұрын
I literally just finished the Trevor lore video and this popped up. Couldn't have timed it better
@thiagobueno9953
@thiagobueno9953 4 ай бұрын
Great video. All the best to you too👍🏼
@SankofaNYC
@SankofaNYC 4 ай бұрын
Wow what a great breakdown of Stretch. And Tanisha too… good work as always and thanks for sharing
@abdelali9279
@abdelali9279 5 ай бұрын
This is the first time that I ever heard that Franklin had an off shoot of the CGF under his belt, no wonder he was really all against the entitlement of the OGs.
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov 5 ай бұрын
Its like how muhammad’s army worked The muslims had to give him a cut of the loot they took during jihad Muhammad the Stretch of Arabia Lol
@barney10240
@barney10240 5 ай бұрын
I can understand why Franklin hate Stretch so much now.
@SuigetsuIsArt
@SuigetsuIsArt 5 ай бұрын
i love franklin so i was really looking forward to this, great video!
@justbrandon5765
@justbrandon5765 5 ай бұрын
i love these type of videos bro your the king of gta lore
@viadmelo
@viadmelo 4 ай бұрын
To me it seemed like Stretch saw Lamar as the main reason the gang war started and therefore he was the one who needed to be killed, while Franklin just looks like some kid from the hood Stretch has some arguments with. So Lamar was Stretch's target and Franklin just happened to be an annoying inconvenience that came with trying to kill Lamar
@OskarGibson
@OskarGibson 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait to hear darkvipers reaction believing that there are no cougars in online to finding out (preferably the hard way by being mauled to death and eaten by one but unlikely since he's on PC) that there are in fact now cougars in online.
@OskarGibson
@OskarGibson 5 ай бұрын
Literally 5 minutes after I wrote that message I just got mauled to death and eaten by a cougar in online. 🤣
@nathanmarshall745
@nathanmarshall745 5 ай бұрын
So there are cougars, but no sharks?
@absolution6191
@absolution6191 5 ай бұрын
​@@nathanmarshall745There are sharks in gta online, learned the hard way after trying to swim to my Kosotka
@Yeatoliversmith
@Yeatoliversmith 5 ай бұрын
been waiting for the Franklin video for a while this is gonna be great
@FriendlyChemist907
@FriendlyChemist907 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Even a super-fan like me always learns something from you
@ShowerGoblin444
@ShowerGoblin444 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the "You Don't Understand Gta 5's Story - I Spent 10000 Hours Discovering Chop's Secret Lore"
@1upastro
@1upastro 4 ай бұрын
chop is in witness protection
@edyslavico3761
@edyslavico3761 5 ай бұрын
This video finally made me understand the whole character of Stretch... I really wish the Franklin storyline woulda been more fleshed out, but I guess Rockstar were trying to do too many things at once.
@calebguajardo8236
@calebguajardo8236 5 ай бұрын
It took you long enough bro I've been waiting
@SamHandley-gz6kl
@SamHandley-gz6kl 5 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for this thank u darkviperau for the content!
@Cosmic-Bear.
@Cosmic-Bear. 4 ай бұрын
GTA V's story is weird because it kinda feels like it ended in the middle and stopped before actually going anywhere. Still a lot of fun, tho.
@Tom-qb1rj
@Tom-qb1rj 5 ай бұрын
You were right about the censoring making it worse. That swearing sound affect more than a hundred times is jarring
@ROOFTOPGUY
@ROOFTOPGUY 5 ай бұрын
overcensorship has made modern KZbin basically unwatchable unless you get some lobotomy done.
@adonispsk1145
@adonispsk1145 5 ай бұрын
nah, it didn't bother, I could still hear those words lmao
@tin2001
@tin2001 5 ай бұрын
You've not played San Andreas enough if that menu sound wasn't already set to auto filter in your mind...
@BingBongYourLife
@BingBongYourLife 5 ай бұрын
I though i knew this part of the story, but i just leanred so much. I love these videos!
@Pelipoikki
@Pelipoikki 5 ай бұрын
these are so good to watch when grinding gta online
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