You don't wanna go viral. Trust me. I did it.

[@solveyyyy]

this is like all the feelings I've had the past 4 years and my experience with social media. I miss doing things just because I loved it, now I'm constantly comparing and trying to do whats "trending." This was a good refresher thank you.

[@mathematicalpoetry4066]

Ted Gioia's substack sent me here - I appreciate you sharing your story. I live in a different world for I am almost 70 and have never paid attention to commercial powers which currently include the recent algorithmic forces. I don't see my work ever being popular yet, that doesn't mean I don't want to connect with people because I do. You validated my method for I do what my muses have inspired and have never tried to do something just to please the masses. As you implied this method guarantees that I can't help but be original.

[@uxwithmuloongo313]

Ted Gioia led me here too

[@JohnLumgair]

​@@uxwithmuloongo313and me!

[@johnjames4446]

@@uxwithmuloongo313 Same!

[@Weast4Peace]

+1

[@camus.mp3]

Amazing. There are so many forces pulling one big tide in a singular direction

[@Lili-v4c6n]

Hey i’m 17 and i’m an aspiring musician - this video was really helpful - most youtubers always talk about having to go viral, so i appreciate honest advice like this!

[@camus.mp3]

SO glad this could reach you - it's pretty dangerous when there seems to be one narrative and you're young looking to act on that narrative

[@jonathanparham]

the ceo of patreon and Ted Gioia are folks I've listening to a lot this year. Your video affirms I'm headed in the right direction.

[@camus.mp3]

They're a lot wiser than I am, great listens

[@Omar.elKammar]

you have very quickly became my favorite youtube creator, great work brother and keep on keeping on :)

[@camus.mp3]

thank you!

[@Thipe]

this video is so relatable, went viral last year with making gay freestyles and went the exact same route as you afterwards.

[@camus.mp3]

Wacky

[@lvcsvd]

It's so cool, seeing all the creatives in this comment section, resonating with what you are saying! Let's be intentional with what we consume and conscoius how and where we create!

[@harrybeaven2594]

Great video!! I’ve been making music and art for most of my life - and two years ago I found myself in a job working in digital marketing for a pretty large tech company. I spend a lot of time looking in to TikTok/Meta/Google algorithms - a lot of what I’ve discovered in the last two years, you’ve summed up really well here. I think there’s also a wider conversation to be had about how art changes when you cater to an algorithm instead of fundamental aesthetic and intuitive qualities. Algorithms 1) hugely prioritise sponsored content and 2) are crude to the extent that they promote based off of in-app event triggers (ie a click, engagement time etc). Art is not made to appease in-app events! When you make art that caters to these triggers, it’s hard to also prioritise more intuitive and inexpressible elements which can make give art a special personal feeling. It’s like trying to write a song that can also operate a coffee machine. Anyways great video man, really well said and you put in to words a lot of frustrations I have felt over the last few years.

[@camus.mp3]

really well said here. I find it funny how digital marketing is the 'natural' place to go as a creative

[@TheRealAA89]

i honestly zoned out for most of this, but im sure all of it was godlike info and takes.

[@camus.mp3]

hahaah thanks for the watch time

[@willmoller]

quality video bro and nice pots!! i disagree a little bit though. i don't think it's the virality that's a problem, i think it's going viral doing something that's not really true to you for the sake of going viral and then struggling to turn that into what you really wanted to do because the views aren't the same and the people you attracted aren't here for what you wanted to do. going viral showing your original work, being who you are (kind of like you've done with some of your videos lately) is a positive thing in my opinion, because people will come for you moving forward and aren't necessarily going to disappear when you don't drop more remixes. It's kinda like putting a facade up around other people to get friends and expecting to be able to show who you really are later down the line and still keep those friends - that's the way I see it at least! But I definitely agree we shouldn't become slaves to the algorithms and do things just for going viral, we should all focus on doing what we truly want to do and if we can go viral with the stuff that truly fulfills us then that's a win 👑 also let me know if you think i'm wrong lol i've never really gone viral myself

[@egbedunmomore1434]

Very well said Will. I think the whole discourse on virality, especially in music is incredibly nuanced. The only thing I’ll add is don’t get too attached to the validation you get from going viral doing something you love. Humans are humans, and humans change. This is my opinion, I myself have never gone viral before.

[@camus.mp3]

Yeah cheers will it is very nuanced. I was going to mention that some of the positive numbers on this channel have caused similar emotions, it's not easy to navigate but it's miles away better. This is very valid tho

[@returnedgoods]

started watching you because I wanted to learn how to produce music and here I am, I watched you make pots for 30 min. and enjoyed every minute. you are definitely a personality based youtuber in my book:D

[@camus.mp3]

hahahah this is terrific - thank you

[@AnthonyCollierMusic]

I wish I would’ve saw this video 4 weeks ago. What you’re telling and suggesting to us is nothing but freedom. So thank you! I’m happy I found your channel.

[@camus.mp3]

What an amazing way to sum it up, thanks anthony

[@soulfulandnice]

😊"Do the work you want to get the work you want." 🙌🏽 A personal mantra of mine. I never understood the opposite point of view that has been well accepted.

[@camus.mp3]

Facts

[@keylimecoast]

Hey I stumbled across your channel after your 30 day song challenge, and I really enjoy watching your content. I just started uploading videos myself and after watching this video, you made me want to share my own experience going viral so I did and I linked your video in the description. Congrats on your channel, your're killing it!

[@camus.mp3]

Hahahahah ok so if you post pasta cube on ig and it gets 5m and then the ‘song this friday’ gets 1m views - even I’m surprised that did nothing to the song’s numbers lol

[@camus.mp3]

It really goes fucking DEEP how few shits people give if theyre not actually there for you lol

[@Ellen.Bee.]

the Camus pot podcast I love it. Your voice and the message you tell fucking catches me every time man..

[@camus.mp3]

hahahah POT PODCAST might have to steal that

[@pinkisntdead]

Thank you so much for being a voice of reason in an endless sea of fluff. I’m a couple weeks away from my admission exam in the conservatory of electronic music in Naples, and the perspective of investing 100% of my time and money into something so shaky and uncertain has really taken a toll on my mental health. I’ve only started making electronic music a couple of years ago after a weird and uneventful relationship with my guitar, and I truly believe I have now found my vocation in the audiovisual niche. I’ve been deeply inspired by a small project from near my hometown in Italy which I’ve followed since their first endeavours, and seeing them climb the ladders of the industry through pure passion and a sense of community has been a massive inspiration to me. Your pure aspiration towards a sense of community and spontaneity between artists is something I take to heart as much as the art itself, and seeing someone on KZbin all the way from Australia share such ideals has truly been a breath of fresh air; I don’t feel like I’m crazy anymore. Thank you. :)

[@camus.mp3]

I absolutely feel you with investing so much time into uncertain terrain, I really hope you get into the Con - and if that's not the way it goes there are SO many other paths in an industry where gatekeepers are becoming less and less relevant, so good luck! And the aspiration to a sense of community is BECAUSE of people like you, thanks for being here along for the journey all the way from italy :)

[@pinkisntdead]

@@camus.mp3 Popping back in to say I got in with a score of 28/30 and I'm so fucking happy :DDD You and the people I've already made friends with at the admission exam are some of the most influential sources of inspiration for me up until this point and I'm so happy to have reached this goal. Thank you once again for your influence!! :)

[@shahardagan1584]

So glad the algorithm brought you :) Thanks for sharing I followed you on every platform

[@movaboreeaske]

The videos that you make have a lot of value to me, I love to see how you are finding your way - definitely a personality based thing or however you called it! I trust that this way of working will also bring a lot of value for you / the creator - inspiring me to trust in myself too :)

[@cervantismo]

You're a thoughtful dude. Really enjoyed your insight on this.

[@itsJustJayMusic]

First of all, the second Pot seems better! Secondly, it's funny how you make music, and that's what hooked me at the start as someone who makes music himself, but I never until now checked a full song of yours. Maybe I should head to Spotify after this to listen. Thirdly, My memory is worse than remembering all the details you've spoken about, but I agree with most of them, although I have no experience in going viral. One point that I wanna reassure from my journey that you've spoken about briefly in the video is the importance of taking care of what you make and making something that you truly think is valuable to you and other people. As I've mentioned before in a comment, I'm making my first EP, but I wanna add to that, that there are 60 songs private-ed on my channel just because I was trying to feed the machine. After a night when I listened to my whole catalog in one run, I realized that non of my past work is representative of me as an person and/or an artist (except for like.. 4 tracks which are still up there). And even if they were representative, all of them were made quickly and not out of passion, but rather out of the will to hit the lotto with my sound. So I made them private, I took a 9 months break, worked on my skillset to really be able to make something with the quality that I want and then think about what I wanted to be and craft it carefully, not because it'll get to X amount of views or in front of X number of sets on eyeballs, but rather because down the road, a couple years from now, I wanna look at it, and be happy about it. I don't wanna make it any longer, I'm going to take a listen to something you made and thanks for the video I really enjoyed it.

[@camus.mp3]

Thanks for sharing your story - this made me think of the idea that part of being an artist is in the curation of your work. Deciding what is and isn't what you want to share. Tough balance though

[@christophercarstens7875]

Thanks!

[@camus.mp3]

Really appreciate you Chris 🙏🙏

[@cosmocosmocosmocosmocosmocosmo]

Good one, I agree with all 31 minutes and 22 seconds of this. Music and money don't get along very well. Never have. My greatest joy is listening to tracks I participated in knowing that in some cases, I am the only person who has this song. Do it for the music and for yourself. Be in control of your choices, never sell your publishing. No current industry music business model makes sense for local bands or singer/songwriters. Figure out how to be your own business. My way around it is running a music nonprofit. Keep creating and thank you for sharing your experience, people need to know what reality is from people who have been through it.

[@camus.mp3]

I love hearing these perspectives of people who purchase a lot of music, it's a place I'd like to get to

[@hippofaitdestrucs]

Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts. I love the pots!

[@5kings.mp3]

I appreciate this kind of content so much, I really enjoy seeing some peaceful and relaxing footage while hearing your thoughts about meaningful things, and as I can see from the comments, I am definitely not the only one. This channel is one of my favorites. You're a big inspiration. Would love to see some similar videos in the future.

[@camus.mp3]

So glad you enjoy ! I'd defo be down to do more of this, thanks for being here

[@gustavl1218]

Nice video! I think its very mature to have a game plan towards things like going viral and fame etc, or just small emotional stuff like falling into bad habits, like watching the phone of following stats on youtube. I watch a lot of podcasts by Cal Newport, lots of wise words there imo regarding this. The emotional aspect is something that has to be trained, even in arts, im really starting to think about it like that. I compare it to sports psychology like in golf or disc golf (one of my big hobbies), where one win for a pro for the season can destroy your whole season if you dont have a plan and emotional insight. That emotion of winning something, getting the fame or just applause at the local pub for a set; the acknowledgement can put an unreasonable weight on you and mess with your dreams and ideas and plans. Makes you expect things. Like a golf pro when you dont win or even place well at the next tournament, it can spiral out of control. I fear success when it comes to creativity, I dont know if I can handle it, I dont really want to "handle" it either. I imagine the chance of becoming a resentful artists with no emotional tool developed and trusted upon to handle the situation. Sounds delusional when I say it to myself. But I kind of believe that success can't be controlled, that its not up to me really, especially art as it often existsts in the eyes of the beholder. Rant over xD

[@camus.mp3]

I think that final point is gold - there are a lot of aspects of success that can't be controlled, we probably need to work with that rather than against it. Loved reading this whole rant (it's got nothing on my 30 min essay)

[@AThinSliceofNothing]

Went through something very similar on a different channel and your perspective is pure gold. Am now on the slow grind creating things I’m passionate about and it is much more fulfilling. Keep up the great work.

[@camus.mp3]

Keep it going!

[@KA1DMusic]

23:57 - I found you off your "I made 30 songs in 30 days video" and I'm so glad you came up again. This video pretty much encompasses what I've been struggling with for almost a year now, and I've felt pretty alone in it 'till now. The reason i bring up the time stamp is I'm an artist myself and I started a Discord recently and it's been one of the best decisions I've made, I've never been able to connect with people that enjoy my work so well and so often, and it changes the mindset of the next thing you make loads

[@camus.mp3]

Wow. I would love to hear more about this. Is it a lot of work to maintain? That's a main reservation right now as I don't have much time

[@KA1DMusic]

@@camus.mp3 I think i’ve gotten pretty lucky in that my fans don’t cause much conflict or anything, so it’s not too bad, especially if you just make a couple friends mods then they can help out a lot

[@KA1DMusic]

@@camus.mp3 i think i got lucky in that nobody really causes much conflict, and just based on this comment section i don’t think you’d have much problem either. especially with 2 or 3 mods it’s not too bad

[@camus.mp3]

ok siiick did you just end up modding people you got to know thru it? this is v promising

[@KA1DMusic]

@@camus.mp3 i modded one person i know in person and one person i met through the sever since he was basically already nodding, and they both do great

[@johnnymacLA]

Love this! I had NO idea about any of this (I'm old and not as plugged in). Thanks to you and Ted Gioia for the head's up!

[@camus.mp3]

Love this open mindedness!

[@ericaprioku1704]

Hey man, I'm happy I found this version of you. I actually really love the authentic stuff you released a lot more than the viral one. Keep going strong. Loads of love from Nigeria 🇳🇬❤

[@camus.mp3]

ayee that's awesome thanks for being here

[@catecahill739]

Also came to this video from Ted Gioia's substack. Enjoy your insights. Also really find your music listenable. Cheers.

[@camus.mp3]

Still in disbelief he featured this

[@fourolivess]

Super cool video i really like the idea that you don’t want to have the algoritm have your back but your community. Also excited for all your stuff thats coming!

[@camus.mp3]

Thank you! Takes more intention but I trust it more long term

[@from.the.basement]

Your thoughts are so deep going and understandable. I love you

[@camus.mp3]

Thank you!!

[@MattMulhollandYouTube]

Bro this is great. I just made a similar video on my channel (you did it way better), and I’ve been thinking about all of this heaps recently. I’ve also started a mailing list and have been figuring out what I can sell, but not just for the sake of selling shit. It’s a little tricky when it’s music, and music used to be the thing you could sell, but that’s some old man shit so who cares. Anyway, good on you. Keen to see how you go!

[@camus.mp3]

YEAH it's also tough to figure out what and how to sell in these spheres without undermining your artistic integrity

[@kageotoko894]

Every creator needs to watch this video as camus is someone speaking from first hand experiences from the real world and I strongly agree with what he has been saying. I am an amatuer producer and composer (Do check out some of my stuff !) and everytime I finish a song or an instrumental, A string of flashbacks from an impossible future hits me where these creations act as the fundamental basis of my career. To be honest, there are so many great artists in this world and we will never get to know their works for many aspects driving the modern era. But atleast, if we have fun while making a creative work, maybe the fulfilment from just that is actually enough

[@StormAphiwe]

Thank you for sharing your story🖤 I realized that I need to stop worrying about whether my written stories will be popular or not and just share what I've written with people, also... Please make a podcast😭this video was incredible

[@camus.mp3]

Sharing is hard. Kinda worth it most of the time though

[@shad9674]

That neatontherock sonic video was a hell of a good one and yours reminded me of theirs way before you mentionned it, great reflexions in there thanks

[@camus.mp3]

Seriously goated video(s)

[@jonathocks1016]

You’ve genuinely changed my perspective on how i approach making my music and art. I recently started my path in the music industry, and for a while now i’ve had this looming feeling of guilt whenever just making what I want to make. The pressure from label heads and execs to follow exact genre trends to catch lightning in a bottle has been killing my want to create music all for the sake of virality. Ever since your 30 Day Challenge up until this video, you’ve given me another chance to finally love just doing music and art again. You’ve inspired me to take steps in bettering my craft and in doing so, I ultimately enjoy what I do more now even if there’s no incentive. Keep doing the art that you do man. People like me really value what you do and inspire us to appreciate our own pieces of art even more. Much love🫶🏻

[@camus.mp3]

Wow, this is incredible. Don't really know what to say - I'm so grateful for what it's done for you

[@metamirasi]

I enjoy listening to your perspective. And the pottery was very soothing to watch haha Keep enjoying yourself man, I feel like you are inspiring yourself - and through that you are also inspiring me to provide valuable things to me and others in the world! Cheers and lots of love from Germany!

[@camus.mp3]

Thank you! So grateful to have germans here, such a sick country

[@khadimdiop5824]

Dude I really really love your content it’s always so interesting and inspiring

[@camus.mp3]

Thank youu

[@akanshchowdhary1356]

signed up to the mailing list so excited to see more of u bruh

[@camus.mp3]

Let's GO so happy to have you

[@kobe.mp3]

Thanks for sharing, I have been struggling with the same thing recently. It was very nice to hear you talk about it from your perspective. I agree 100%, always create what is most true to you.

[@camus.mp3]

You're not alone :)

[@aaronmccrone5930]

Thanks for sharing your story, allot of helpful stuff here.

[@camus.mp3]

my pleasure aaron

[@noahjones.mp3]

Love your stuff and perception on following your passions, you’ve been an extreme influence this summer in my own creative journey 🤟🏼

[@camus.mp3]

Get IN

[@effi-w5n]

I never went viral, but as a writer I do understand the temptation to do things that appeal to the masses instead of doing something that you truely want to do. You always have the reader, the plattform , the potential success in the back of your mind though you actually only want to express yourself and do what you like - be creative for yourself. And the cups look great 👍🏻 I was crocheting while watching you do your pottery 😁

[@camus.mp3]

this is terrific

[@ClarityInMotion]

Thanks for a great video! Great points that you go over that I have been thinking myself resently.

[@itaybracha]

I think just like you man, hope you reach your goals💪 Nice pots by the way😉

[@kaileyschaeffer6766]

I started an independent study for school where I will make “content” for all of my creative hobbies. I’ve made videos before in my spare time but I definitely fall into the same problems and end up not doing anything creative for months. I want to enjoy my hobbies and put less energy into “what sells.” I’m currently trying to find my balance so I continue to enjoy what I’m doing. Also, if it helps, I have watched a lot of videos for you personality, so your plans seem to be working 👍

[@camus.mp3]

Thank you! And yes I really think it is a balance - we can't completely shun the positive external rewards we get either

[@xfl0wer]

Dude, you inspired me to make my first video on KZbin. I want to record a little of my life and also improve my English because I'm learning

[@camus.mp3]

Fantastic. Watched the first vlog, I don't know if I'd have the courage to speak another language in a video and your english is great :)

[@xfl0wer]

@@camus.mp3 obrigada ☺️

[@cloudchordmusic]

Watched the whole thing and loved it. I have gone viral on a few different platforms and would be happy to chat about it sometime. 😊

[@camus.mp3]

Yeah! Those daybreak sessions sound so smooth man, love it

[@augystudio]

I love this video, very good as always

[@kathrynburnett2653]

Love this - thanks for sharing.

[@pourpaintprincess]

Slow is smooth and smooth is fast 🔥

[@EricGuenther]

manually sent this to ~10 people I make music with and are similarly frustrated... great insight and take on the modern landscape. I also found this through Gioia, who in my opinion is brilliant and should be the spiritual guide for the "next platform that champions artists"

[@camus.mp3]

Absolutely crazy he watched this let alone featured it, constantly surprised by how actively people like you spread ideas too, so thank you

[@EricGuenther]

@@camus.mp3 it's a solid first hand take, and something TG couldn't totally or organically experience himself at this point; and it simply resonates with a zillion people also trying to do their thing, I'm sure

[@Szaksas]

I think you are really right, like that makes a lot of sense but there is a problem with, when you make a really good video when you think and know is much much better then what you have posted before and it gets like 300 views instead of 1500 its depressing. Even if we skip like gratuation thing, how am I supposed to grow while fullfiling myself when my stuff doesnt get bigger each video? Anyway, I really like that video, it's nice to listen to you

[@Shmityorshen]

This was an interesting video to wake up to, lots of great points in it. Even though I'm not a content creator myself, one of my recent roommates was and I can see how these things apply so accurately. However, I don't think I've made pottery since I was in like second grade, so I don't think I'm an expert or have much authority on this... But make the damn cup already!! I know it's maybe therapeutic, not a rush, it's not a mission to complete, but couldn't you have made like 10 cups in the same time that you were moving that thing up and down like the whole video lol?! Part of me hanging on through the video is to see when this cup is going to be done like a cliffhanger lol

[@camus.mp3]

hahaha well what you didn't see was me trying to rush three pots before this and them all failing

[@chickenindoubleC]

Lovely video, thank you. I'm a beginner musician--if you count making music as musicianship--and I made a KZbin account to track my progress and share with friends & family. I didn't realize how quickly others would find it. I'm honored, but I have noticed that the kind validation folks give is very rewarding. I can easily see how that spirals. Never thought I'd be here, but this was a good video for me to stumble across. Mr. Gioia's substack brought me here and I'll be sharing this with my musician friends. Thank you!

[@camus.mp3]

This website really is amazing at getting stuff out to the people who will end up caring - a double edged sword that I'm learning to work with. Amazing to hear how it's positively impacting you :) Still stunned he featured this video

[@RandomMg]

2nd pot is my favorite 🎉🎉

[@camus.mp3]

I feel validated

[@Abnerxdlol]

real

[@MelLanzieri]

8:11 totally distracted me 🙃 jk I love watching your videos!

[@camus.mp3]

WHOOPS

[@dreilla]

Yoo I discord would be sick I’d love to able to connect with other creatives do that shit🗣️🗣️

[@camus.mp3]

yess

[@wilmoremusic]

How come you've taken your SoundCloud down?

[@camus.mp3]

I haven't ?

[@johnviera3884]

If your son goes viral that is a fantastic thing. Doesn’t mean it Hass to dictate anything you do after that. Check out Afroman because I got high. At least he has something that you know

[@skymanito]

please do more pot&talk :)

[@camus.mp3]

You might regret this comment hahahahahaha

[@SuperMetinm]

It would be really funny if this went viral 😂

[@SandwichMakerLLC]

CAMUSSSS

[@camus.mp3]

sandwichhhh

[@shlarbo]

I know you were dunking on people who make courses, but I think that is their way of trying to provide something of value to viewers while making money that isn’t algorithm dependent. Same for things like merch.

[@camus.mp3]

Probably didn't make this clear enough - not dunking on all courses, I've bought a few myself, just the scammy ones that are made for no other purpose than money

[@wabashcannonball]

Safety suggestion: Please don’t let your sweatshirt strings hang so close to the turning wheel. Put them inside your sweatshirt.

[@camus.mp3]

hahahaha this is a very good idea

[@razza1171]

That’s great until you try and intentially create a bad video and it does really well 🙈

[@camus.mp3]

hahahahaha this has definitely happened before

[@shhhazim]

it feels a tad guru ish you’re selling me a course ish.. too much advice not enough fun and creation

[@mcmastermafia]

Bruh, the point of the video is advice not creation. And anyone with a platform would be wrong to not monitize.

[@mcmastermafia]

Plus the whole video is him literally creating a pot hahahahahah

[@SirJoCocchi]

What's happening with your original music now?

[@shhhazim]

@@mcmastermafia it’s way too many people giving advice videos that lack substance. we almost cut it close with this video.

[@shhhazim]

@@SirJoCocchi don’t know what your point is

[@tortaenjoyer]

u didnt go viral u got semi clout barely anything then got forgotten