You Got Urza In My Reanimator! | Vintage Cube Draft

Urza and Griselbrand don't often fight side by side, but this deck managed to bridge the gap nicely.
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[@KenTober]

Round one game two, Life is lethal around 36 minute mark^ Very surprised you didn’t go for it!

[@dementievatz]

I honestly forget that Life exists. 😂

[@moormanjean5636]

Would have been a hilarious play

[@narwhal004]

I saw the same thing.

[@arracnocwoodcutter]

Saw it and wanted to comment, but ofc it was already here 🎉

[@patrickgonzales7825]

Nice, I didn’t see this. Good find!

[@MC-ep8cu]

"I would actually prefer to counter that and add 4 mana to my mana pool thank you" Ive never appreciated how broken mana drain was until that moment

[@r2dezki]

They thought mana burn would be a thing forever!!

[@RaiTsuka]

the turn you played thopter foundry you could have just cast Life to get 4 1/1s and attacked for 5 vs his 3 blockers since he was at 2 life right?

[@drakesmith115]

You had the win 36:20 in. Cast life, your lands become 1/1's swing for game.

[@danielhall9050]

I really love the 4 packs for 3v3s would be awesome to see that with a double power cube

[@willpatterson3674]

Love the 4 packs of 12 💞

[@ninjanoodle2674]

“It turns out that I ended up not going into combo, I don’t think….” is the most LSV thing ever said.

[@melonwatcher]

Match 3 game 1, you can Lotus Petal out the Thoughtsieze and still Library next turn, I thought? Anyway, kinda reminiscent of the Thopter/Depths deck back in the day - two fairly orthogonal combos that somehow work in the same deck.

[@rv907]

You cannot. 8 cards. Down to 6 if you don’t play a land. Up to 7. Play library and down to 6. So even if you miss your land drop t1 you can’t library.

[@melonwatcher]

@@rv907 why would you not play Library turn 1? It replaces itself. Start with 8 cards, play Library = 7, activate Library = 8, play Petal + Thoughtsieze = 6, next turn draw = 7, activate Library = 8. It's exactly what you want with a Library hand, extra card draw offset by acceleration and interactivity.

[@dementievatz]

We crossed Thopter Foundry off the list. What card or combo do we want to force him to play next?

[@ub3rlegen]

Twin

[@Mathayoo]

Melt meekstone and urza

[@nthnthms1212]

Pirate re enactments are sick

[@jasonhamler4507]

Because it's LSV I can't tell if that's a fun fact or complete trolling.

[@vagrantvienna]

​@@jasonhamler4507same 😂

[@jrjamesson]

I was thinking that thopter+sword was too small ball for vintage cube but you really proved me wrong! sweet deck

[@G.Aaron.Fisher]

It would be incredibly fun to see the Urza, Planeswalker dream. I've been playing Magic since days when the coolest thing to do was crash MODO with three Oblivion Rings. But I've never seen meld actually happen.

[@SymmetricalDocking]

You don't get to, people just scoop and don't let you do it

[@blackdog9698919]

@@SymmetricalDocking It's happened to me twice. I lost once and won once. It's honestly not that strong, which feels weird to say given how powerful his abilities are, but there's a reason LSV never even thinks about trying it. You shouldn't automatically scoop. Because people never actually get to play with Urza, they don't seem to have a great idea of how to use him once they've got him. Both times he came into play the player misused him pretty badly.

[@safariad]

Just a fun note. If you catch these videos in the first minute after they are uploaded, there is a fun Easter Egg

[@kingfuzzy2]

Just here wondering how lsv got away with a silly deck.

[@anosmianAcrimony]

30:52 Probably supposed to discard the Sword there. Given you've got a Spellseeker in hand and a Retrofitter Foundry in play, it'll definitely come back

[@codetaku]

3-0 and lose the event seems to be the #1 staple of this channel nowadays ^_^; but at least it's super fun to watch all of your games lol

[@briankruesi6484]

So great that your teammates couldn’t help you at all.

[@Michael-sz7lp]

Did I miss why he didn’t cast life off the cradle in against the green deck?

[@pino6942]

Hey guys i just won while my opponent being at 17 with comet stellar pup the turn i casted it can someone do the math on that?

[@Anusien]

It happened so 100%

[@jantmoen]

Thank you for all the cubes!

[@RPG_Bliss]

What did I even do during lunch breaks before LSV started his channel? Subs and drafts baby!!!

[@roarmalf]

This was a sweet deck. I wasnt sure how it would play out given that you drafted basically 3 different decks together. This is a deck i feel confident i would have built poorly and 0-3'd. Glad you tried out the thopter/sword combo.

[@dcsmoot]

When are you releasing your rendition of the vintage cube?

[@maxxgagg]

That second pack was incredible, no power but 12 very good cards.

[@Falnky]

This was such a cool deck! Always a good time when Luis opens an Urza 😄

[@el_maoo]

sounds like my favorite archetype

[@wacco4932]

I was really unsure about this deck after the draft, but god damn. It turned out awesome. Well played.

[@stack3rz]

What’s your speculation in pack 4? Would you have taken a mox over mana crypt if it was on color or is mana crypt (given the deck) just flat better?

[@alexullrich7502]

Love this deck!

[@MarkChaney-b8k]

Are you going to cube draft with jim Davis for charity possibly

[@Quicknick777]

Draft better teammates! Jeez always can step up the draft game

[@kingfuzzy2]

Variance is what makes magic a fun and great game

[@r2dezki]

Huh. Thopter sword is a good combo. Who woulda thunk!

[@xZuunes]

Is Matti from Finland? Do you know him? 😁

[@lordmatz3435]

malcolm is such a funny name for a magic card idk xD

[@orccen]

4k or....well or nothing I'll keep watching but it'd make me happy

[@Supernov4]

Could've won by casting life with cradle.

[@moleahjobe]

Pirate reenactment? Catch slaves, steal tea and die of scurvy?

[@Blackadder75]

you forgot the yohoho and the bottle of rum

[@andrewwatts6974]

Vampire Battery sounds pretty broken❤😂

[@itsallenwow]

If I ever went 3-0 in this cube I think I'd remove Senei's top, and replace with Sinkhole

[@cesarramon4636]

L

[@jordanewers5375]

Does drafting with Taliskrrr make you Taliskurred?

[@NatePrawdzik]

1:00:11 Tap Library to draw. Petal into Thoughtseize. (Next turn you're at 7 cards again.) Instead you listed the card that would kill you by not making this play and then died to it. Way too greedy.

[@jrjamesson]

must be great being omniscient with hindsight huh?

[@NatePrawdzik]

@@jrjamesson He literally stated his concern on that turn. Foresight is the word you're looking for. I didn't know of that threat until he mentioned it, but once he did, the correct play becomes obvious. "Do nothing and hope for the best" vs "try to stop the threat" isn't a difficult matrix to figure out.

[@cashnsplash8939]

U shoul petition to take the triomes out the cube

[@ub3rlegen]

For the KZbin thumbnails, I recommend non-Mox cards (unless you get like 3). Moxen are powerful obviously, but they're not interesting or attention-grabbing.

[@LSVargas]

Mmm, gonna disagree on that one

[@BetaJim22]

1:45 Retrofitter has to be the card that LSV and I have the single largest difference in evaluation on in history. LSV willing to 2nd pick it and for me it might be a 23rd playable and I think it's incorrect to actually be in 90% of decks that play it. It's kind of crazy to me that I've watched LSV play the card a ton and he thinks it was good in those games while I only remember it being good in his games maybe twice and I think basically any mana sink would have been good in those spots. Will be interesting to see if I think the card was good in this deck or not. 1:01:00 Exactly how I see Retrofitter 99% of the time. In opening hand with ability to cast turn 3 Urza and at no point is it correct to cast the card and die with it in your hand. 1:05:00 Oh! Maybe it'll do something. a 1/1 still feels weak to me compared to a ton of other things you can do with 3 mana on turn 1 but, this at least has some potential. If it's not good enough here then.... 1:06:00 choosing not to kill the fitter with artifact removal kind of shows evaluation of strength. Here I do actually think it's close and fitter might have been better than crypt to destroy depending on rest of cards in hand. 1:07:30 Ok, this isn't fitter being strong this is opponent making multiple big mistakes. Ultimately retrofitter in that game was 4 mana for a 4/4 flash that ate a creature over 3 turns. Top, spellseeker, Malcolm, and Grislebrand were the cards that were going to win that game. This is what I mean, opening hand with a Crypt and it ended up just being a surprise 4/4 and chose not to activate it for a turn. Final verdict: my opinion remains the same. I think retrofitter is too slow and is barely playable and Thopter Foundry combo is actually great in decks with Academy, Tinker, Urza, or Cradle. The entire difference is the amount of mana it takes to generate creatures between them. Foundry just takes WAY more mana to do things than the combo does, takes more turns to generate lethal with an academy or cradle or urza, and doesn't gain life to negate any outs opponent might have. IMHO I think you want to take the Thopter pieces around pick 5-6 and I wouldn't take Retrofitter until at least pick 10 and I wouldn't be happy about it. I just have never seen the card win a game except in situations where virtually any mana sink would win and I think it's basically the worst mana sink option.

[@jrjamesson]

not saying I completely disagree with you, I used to think it was way overrated, but I've seen LSV do nuts things with it plus either cradle or academy (sometimes both!) in other videos. I think the strength of it with urza's saga and urza is meaningful too. I don't think it's a 2nd pick card, but do think it is better than I once thought.

[@jrjamesson]

also, mana crypt is *power*, so the opponent killing it over retrofitter (and that maybe even being the wrong choice!) isn't exactly a knock against retrofitter.

[@TreeFcknFiddy]

great draft. would've loved seeing the brain freeze and/or yawgwill version shoehorned in for a game or two.

[@yoursweatersux]

How the hell do you build a deck as bad as Jenara's after opening 4 packs???? lmao