You'll be shocked. CTX3030 versus Deus XP. Can Deus beat Minelabs monster?

[@billmannering5381]

My only comment would be that every time you hunt with any detector you miss stuff because of the lack of overlap in your swing or the speed of your swing or a myriad of other issues that are not related to the detector but to the person swinging it. My gut tells me if you go back over that same path with either detector on another day you will find more things that you missed.

[@CanadianDiggersChannel]

I agree with you Bill. Easy to be bumped around and miss some ground . This test should be done on a flatter surface.

[@sapperx1027]

Bill Mannering these days coils are pretty much edge to edge, so you don’t have to overlap like we used to do in the old days.

[@Yodumeee]

Have you seen people swing coils? Major gaps too fast. Anyway the only way to check would be break the deus back out and check the target. Probably find it too and I swing a ctx

[@maryhudson6137]

Wingsandbeaks here from Oklahoma ~ This video is a little older, but it is yours! Can’t wait to see what you get into! Always fascinating and fun!

[@ChillBill1]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@diggerodell7655]

Interesting comparison test. Though I've not used the Deus, I have used others and settled on the CTX. While I agree it is a bit heavy, it's so well balanced that I have no problem swinging it for 8 to 12 hours. As for picking up small irregular objects, I've had no issues with it and have recovered deep items others have missed in heavily pounded areas. The recovery is a bit slower than the Deus, but there is the fast recovery setting which helps when needed such as in trashy parks. There are many things that may need to be done to set up the ctx correctly for the area being hunted, but when it's set right, you go at an even pace and overlap swings a bit, it's rare that anything is missed. One huge advantage is the CTX being sble to "see" multiple targets and unmask items due to its FBS capability. I've gone to places where people have detected the same place that very day ahead of me, yet I still make finds they cant. I can also go places other machines are unusable such as under high voltage lines where the EMI would disable any lesser machine. Thanks for the video, and maybe later you could do a comparison in a test garden with identical targets and depths. Good luck and happy hunting!

[@restrainingdylan2524]

ye i do like the ctx but its recovery speed tends to miss targets i had both detectors and certain coins that were masked by iron with the ctx the deus seen .I really with the ctxs recovery speed was better .

[@11111972cjb]

Digger O'Dell. The Garrett AT pro with stock coil is even heavier than the 3030. I love the CTX, and Etrac but I just can't sell my AT Pro yet lol.

[@Dan-vp4ti]

my old e track died on me a while ago, so I thought I'd go the ctx. 6 months later I sold it and bought another e track. more money doesn't mean better 'love my e treac'

[@roberttown2816]

E trac would have would have all of these no problem

[@jakedonnely4094]

@@roberttown2816 so would my explorer

[@roberttown2816]

@@jakedonnely4094 I don’t doubt it mate

[@eagledetection4451]

"There goes the Deus as usual." with an uppity inflection made me laugh.

[@khammar6081]

You are very entertaining! Thanks for posting your videos!

[@stevehami]

Hello from Orlando Florida. Loved your video and your humor mate. Keep them coming.

[@ChillBill1]

that's much appreciated Steve.

[@ThirdDegreeWitchExplores]

we have both the deus and the ctx , Ctx kicks the deus into the weeds every time .

[@Chuck-he1jd]

In RI us I am using Deus and its is finding more on sites I have hit over and over with other machines. That target separation and depth is great and countless program options is another thing I like.

[@BusyBeeCompany]

horses for courses, my atp is great on fields and parks and dry sand, but the ctx is a monster in surf, wet sand, high mineralisation etc

[@colleenrose5355]

Great video, the food at the end looked delicious.

[@normanhirtle3180]

Great comparisons Chill Bill

[@livinggood5545]

Any day out is a great day. I have enjoyed your travel today. Thank you for sharing. HH and good health.

[@jomon723]

Yes, the weight can be just as important than a extra inch. (That's what she said")

[@TonyEisenhower]

Nice vids mate. Enjoyed, liked and subbed. ATB from SoCal..

[@ChillBill1]

I only find dimes in OC. :) thanks for watching.

[@PieterHomburg]

Try the CTX 3030 with the Harness you can buy for it, nothing is heavy then

[@keithwhite9137]

I would be interested to hear what you think of CTX with a good quality harness.

[@hooper4581]

Great finds !. Crack on ! Hey thanks for posting pal Carry on ol chap

[@susanpayne6107]

I couldn't handle the weight of the CTX either. That would be the greatest drawback. Happy Hunting and God bless! HH & GB

[@oldplucker1]

CTX is good for unploughed pasture after its already been detected by other machines. It is not good for ploughed field digs for many reasons.

[@ChillBill1]

Its a solid machine but too heavy for me for 5 hours detecting. West Country Clegg gets good mileage from his.

[@oldplucker1]

Chill Bill yes the CTX is heavy but deep if used correctly. All the guys in the UK are getting NOX 800s I am still learning mine after 9 months, but I think lighter machines are the way to go. Cleggy is 6ft but I see he still gets tired. I will try out a Deus when I get back to the UK. I think having a few machines is a good idea. I have found stuff with my Garrett 400i that the Nox missed and vice versa. It depends on the scenario too.

[@roymanewell4958]

i too splshed out and got the ctx as a expat living in oz i mainly hunt on beaches where depth is everything its not as deep as my pulse tdi but its of course its waterproof and very stable,if you think its heavy with the smaller coil you wont believe how bad it is with the 17 inch coil.where it scores though is in the parks its feature of tracking on two targets has found me lots of good stuff,try the bungy it makes it bearable .

[@ChillBill1]

Thanks for that, the harness is on the wish list.

[@pactrolsolutions]

CTX is so heavy? - Compered with what? a ball and chain? Behave! - I'm new to detecting but find it really manageable and easy to use - and I'm only 5ft 7"

[@sapperx1027]

Dave Beeston behave stumpy, when your arms a bit worn out after 25 years detecting you’ll understand why some of us appreciate a light detector. Compared to what?A fucking Deus that’s what 🤣

[@michaelproctor8100]

As far as the weight of the CTX goes, Minelab sells an inexpensive harness that makes weight a non-issue.

[@ChillBill1]

I think that's needed but for me I've enough clobber to be carrying without another bit of equipment. The solution is a set of dumbells and 100 reps a day to build up my biceps. :)

[@sapperx1027]

Michael Proctor apart from you’re tethered to the machine, still each to their own.

[@dirtpickingusa8786]

Nice video Chill Bill, you just had to go find a liard de france and post a video of it before I got mine out! How frequently do you find them in Europe? I was pretty excited to find a 1600's coin in the USA.

[@ChillBill1]

+DirtPicking USA a liard is a great find in the US. I find quite a few in France but then they didn't have to sail the ocean blue to get to me. All they did was fall out of a peasant pocket.

[@FreeAmericanSpirit]

Tests like this are really not a good indicator of which detector is better. I can take any upper end detector and go to a field and find stuff that was missed by another detector. The only way to compare which is best is to literally swing both detectors over each object found. It is best to have two people so that each detector finds an object first then it is checked by the other. I would not want to wave a 3030 around all day, probably out me in traction....

[@ChillBill1]

The other issue is hearing... if the sound a detector puts out is in part of you deaf zone, then you wont find much. Light and screechy does it for me. :)

[@FreeAmericanSpirit]

@@ChillBill1 this is absolutely true and I like the deus because I can change the tones. Back in the day I loved my whites detectors but my go to was fisher and tesoro because they had better tones for me..

[@jetgold]

yes well good results plus, the warm meal is great after a good day out doors. and a pint of course.

[@pondguru]

Same land, different day, different soil conditions - results are so variable and you'll only know which you prefer for certain land conditions after 6 months or so. On cultivated land I'd go skimming with the deus and for proper undisturbed pasture the CTX would be my choice. So glad you haven't gone down the air test route as single frequency machines generally trounce the FBS machines on air tests. I saw some a-hole in a video a while back 'proving' to me that the deus could detect 6 feet deep because he cranked it up to the max and could detect a heavy wire fence in front of him - total lack of understanding about detecting there and the machine was sounding off when he breathed on it, lol. Seen so many 'reviews' recently which simply comprise of simple air tests too which are total crap (and very misleading). How the machine performs IN THE GROUND, long term and in a range of different conditions is the only judgement on the machine's ability a proper review should contain. Glad you're doing it the right way - actually detecting unknown targets in varied conditions and continuing your investigations. I for one don't mind hearing your developing thoughts as there's probably only about 5% - 10% difference between them on different sites. Identifying which has the edge in different conditions is never time wasted. GL&HH

[@ChillBill1]

+Pondguru Outdoors I think air tests are nearly useless. An important aspect is the cybernetics of the machine, ie how it interacts with the user. Its often the nut behind the headphones that needs adjusting.

[@pondguru]

+Chill Bill I hear you there, man. Some people are so loyal to brands they won't accept any criticism of their machine. I'm about as far from a fanboy as you can get as I have machines which I consider to be the best for very particular types of hunting - 2 from Minelab, 1 from XP and one from Garrett. No machine will do it all.....at least not yet.

[@ChillBill1]

I've noticed that US machines pick up modern coins where the Deus might miss them and visa versa but it could be US detectorist picking up modern coins and missing the sound of ancient flotsam we Euro detectorist know well.

[@Icriedtoday]

You’ve got to compare on the same day. Soil moisture and solar emi have a lot to do with it.

[@round51]

Very good exercise in deduction about the walnuts CB. On another note; it looks like you're going to have a good crop of dandelions so why don't you make a vid on how to make Dandelion wine. Now that would be very instructive! Btw another good vid, thanks.

[@ChillBill1]

+round51 great idea. I get to drink it too. Have made sloe gin, so this isn't a big leap.

[@round51]

the drinking part is always the best part! Always more satisfying to grow your own so to speak.

[@AgileMJOLNIR]

I hear this argument a lot comparing the CTX to Deus which I use both of here in California. Different tools for different jobs I've always said and there's really no comparison. Out here the Deus can't come close to the CTX depth or target ID/tones and the CTX really does well through the iron ridden areas. However my Deus comes into play is very high trash or high iron areas and without a doubt will do better in those conditions on any given day. The fact that the Deus is wireless, lighter, and more compact is irrelevant to me personally but I can see where certain people might appreciate that. Both are fine machines! On the beach my Deus is hit or miss and I much prefer the CTX, I also love being able to detect in the rain or underwater with the CTX. I wouldn't trade either machines for anything because they are very good and doing the individual things I need both units to do. People have been making these arguments forever it seems which may spawn from the fact that most people only can afford or want to buy a single unit therefore they want something that does everything. No 1 machine does everything with great efficiency IMO. Detector "A" will find things detector "B" will miss and vice versa. Anyways sorry to ramble just my 2 cents on the topic.

[@ChillBill1]

Very gd point about detecting in the rain. Deus needs protection.

[@OldSkoolF]

You Contradict yourself..."CTX really does well through the iron ridden areas. However my Deus comes into play is very high trash or high iron areas and without a doubt will do better"

[@adamprice9214]

@@OldSkoolF this is exactly what I was thinking 😁

[@rhystanbrown8506]

Cant add LIKE to this Bill.....definately a bias in this report.....and I usually like your vids. I guess we all have our faves and yours is definately the Deus.

[@jynxgoxoom]

you need to figure out a sling or harness for the ctx so the weight is carried more by your torso than just your arm. mind you in the water you may find it is offset. great video thanks for sharing.

[@hohenstaufen.1010]

I use both machines, and the ctx hangs in the minelab pro swing and that works super. CTX for beach hunting and the deus in the field ans after i searched the field wit the deus i use the ctx 3030.

[@ChillBill1]

I think thats solid advice.

[@hohenstaufen.1010]

+Chill Bill It's super the pro swing trust me. One if the best things i bought.

[@gr8whenyrstr8]

AUSTRALIAN Detectors! Minelab is an Australian company!

[@DetectorGirl]

I have been thinking of getting a Deus, only because I have a bad shoulder and would love something lighter. Not sure how it would work here in salty Nova Scotia

[@ChillBill1]

+Detector Girl its incredibly light... but cant vouch for your soil conditions.

[@normanhirtle3180]

+Detector Girl deus - just over 2 lbs., ctx3030 - just over 5 lbs. hope that helps Detector Girl(and fellow Bluenoser)

[@petermundy3339]

I don't think either one is a clear winner Bill but as you say the weight is a big factor for us old fellas so I would be sticking to the Dias and flogging the CTX off

[@ChillBill1]

+Peter Mundy CTX is waterproof, so Im going to give that a test. Need a waterproof HD camera though.

[@golddetector01]

Like the videos bill I Have worked with both the CTX3030 and Deus XP well first air test Deus gets 3 inch more then CTX3030 on any coin . also the Deus goes deeper then CTX3030 in the field. Now for the. but if Deus is not set for a deep search then they are both about the same. Deep setting for the deus that matter are reactive 0 being the deepest but slow swing 1 for faster swing with less depth in air but could go deeper at 1 in ground and sensitive 95 or higher

[@Mr.Technical77]

goldy digger you can't air test FBS machines for an indication of max depth like you can other machines. None of them like air between the coil and target.

[@finds7147]

There is no perfect machine when are people going to realise .

[@peteragius4986]

Hi Chill Bill, I wanted to ask how old is the spectacle buckle in the video Cheers from Pete

[@ChillBill1]

+Peter Agius my guess would be 1500-1600s as that's the sweet spot for finds in that field.

[@peteragius4986]

+Chill Bill Great thank you I asked because I picked one up at a carboot sale a couple of years ago. Thank you for your help.

[@AndrewPattullo]

Deus bests a ctx 😂😂😂😂 .... not a hope ... yes its heavy . But balanced to perfection ....

[@lwwayne2357]

fisher F5 I like, but comes down to what you like! god bless!!

[@nightwalker1083]

You missed something round at top right of picture! at 11:21

[@hotwheel6663]

Kitty wants to use the CTX.

[@scottmolyneux7326]

If you use a harness, you can swing the ctx all day, no problems.

[@johndavis3111]

Based on price the CTX 3030 should be twice as good as the Deus. Don't think so!! What was in that beautiful field of yellow about halfway through the video where the cat was also?

[@ChillBill1]

+John Davis oil seed... I believe.

[@cointector]

Both great machines but I think the deus wins for sure for comfort but minelab 3030 keeps you fit lol merry Christmas 🎄

[@SteveMiller-yw7kv]

The only accurate test would be to have both machines check each target to see if one can read it and the other not.. you can miss things with the same detector at different times...

[@ChillBill1]

I think the best test is to do a certain amount of hours on each machine on the same field and look at the tally. Its not just the electronics that makes a difference, its the ergonomics too. Deus wins hands down on swing-ability.

[@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8]

Some great comments ,I enjoyed it..

[@rocketaroo]

Deus recovers faster, its a huge advantage over the aussie minelab. I live in Australia, and use the deus. Light, wireless, and fast recovery wins for me.

[@restrainingdylan2524]

yeh this is very true i used to have the ctx and i hunted heaps of parks and found a few coins but not much when i got the deus coins were literally popping up everywhere and im not being biased i really wanted to like the ctx but its recovery was extremely slow and it missed alot that the xp dues found.

[@miguelfumar2173]

greg w. How you buy your metal detector...

[@11111972cjb]

Restraining Dylan. I've got both machines and can't agree with you! The 3030 is better for depth imho.

[@11111972cjb]

Harness and hip stick will take the weight off your back and arm.

[@rachelthompson9324]

what is a spectacle buckle? Is that like a knee buckle?

[@ChillBill1]

its the shape of the buckle that gives it the name.

[@versatec1]

Why are there so many coins in an obscure field ...?

[@ChillBill1]

+versatec1 most european fields have hundreds of coins in them especially if there was once farmers cottages in them. this is especially true for countries like France which had small low value change since early times.

[@LavishHim]

Thanks, you're the best!

[@chrisandsamlivingthedream]

Deus any day of the week , nice and light .. detect all day with no harness ...

[@11111972cjb]

You put a larger coil on the Deus but did you put the 17"" coil on the 3030? No you didn't.

[@xIAmDaNinjax]

hi I've a ace 250 with garret bag an garret pionter 2 and garret dig lechie and rock hamer small fits in garret shieth pioneer cover coil cover and brand new garret find bag wanting to swap for upgrade machine still got boxes and warranties

[@LostMines]

hi bill great video I bought a ctx after watching this video, i must say it is so much deeper than my deus on pasture but the deus is better on ploughed land. al

[@ChillBill1]

More comparisons to come. Will get some grassland to try it on shortly.

[@archeodigger]

I'm a Minelab user, Excalibar II and X-Terra 705 Gold pack. I got these because of how light they are and that's also why I haven't considered upgrading to the CTX3030. The Deus seems to have the higher marks as well with depth of targets. Thanks for the comparison. GL&HH Doug

[@meme4one]

The only way to do this test is take both machines and do the same targets at the same time. Just walking the area like this is not a test and the results aren't really valid. It's interesting but doesn't tell you anything.

[@JacobNewmen]

CTX is deeper, better discrimination, stable, no fake signals, no coil sensitivity on touch, FE-CO, automatic GB work werry well, i found more celtic coin (obol) on iron infected sites with CTX, but information on display is perfect. And yes CTX is not for the weak, but the hard is definitely not, GPX is hard. the experienced CTX operator and the appropriate setting do not leave behind any goal. with CTX I can go behind Deus and still have goals that have passed at high speed. I would say that if this video is not a joke, you are obviously totally misunderstood by CTX, and that's why CTX people are selling, Deus is a simple, fast and lightweight hobby detector, but CTX does not belong to it.

[@TheInsox]

Lol.. I can go behind a experienced CTX operator and let him drip off with his tail behind his legs..

[@rickt1866]

Minelab metal detectors are exclusively manufactured by Minelab in Australia

[@sandgroper6859]

Made in malaysia also

[@timwhite9255]

Next time in case you are tired, bring a lawn chair and a bag of treats for Minipuss. Thats what i would do.

[@ChillBill1]

+Tim White good idea, but we dont give her treats so she isn't a fat cat. we give her hugs instead.

[@SuperJupiter33]

so a Deus with an 11" coil save a grand for another day?!

[@mrmister7645]

Great! Ive just got a denver met100 (stop sniggering!) just to get a feel of things. It has only 2 knobs and I am STILL having bother discriminating ANYTHING!!!!

[@ChillBill1]

$200+ from a big name brand like Garrett or Fisher etc and you are in the game. Buy a rubbish detector if you want to put yourself off detecting. ;)

[@rachelthompson9324]

My whites MX sport finds very small deep bits int he water or on land.

[@Ditcha1]

Wasn't sure on what machine to upgrade to but you have made my mind up I'm going for the Deus :)

[@Flossyrockstar]

This is all well and good but without comparing targets with both machines it's a moot point as you can easily miss stuff, also how were the machines programmed, there are definitely better programs out there than the stock ones on both machines.

[@ChillBill1]

You can tweek both detectors forever but I judge them on what the designer reckon is right. Testing on known targets is a poor test. It is what you get to find on a trip that counts and that is as much about user friendliness than electronics. At least for me the Deus wins on user friendliness alone. Unless you are in peak physical condition its impossible to swing the CTX for 6 hours but even for me the Deus is fine all day. If the machine is a fat clumsy lump then whatever the coil and electronics are, you are going to miss a lot of stuff because the device is cumbersome. The CTX is cumbersome. I own both machines and the CTX is collecting dust. In a field back to back I find more with the Deus per hour and I can swing for at least twice as long. The results are clear cut to me.

[@Flossyrockstar]

Unfortunately Bill the designers tend to design detectors for the American market as its the biggest one where they don't dig ring pulls or foil if those are discriminated out you will miss bundles in the uk and europe, as for tweaking for ever, minimal discrimination, smooth audio, noise channel 3 and boosting target volume will make the machine unbeatable on most sites. As for the weight try extending the lower shaft so that its about 2.5 feet away from you, I'm no muscle man far from it believe me but I can use the CTX all day without fatigue. With regard to original statement if you are going to compare machines you need to compare targets with both machines setup correctly otherwise it's a worthless exercise.

[@thanxx]

thanks for sharing.

[@NHbeachmetaldetecting]

at the beach the ctx rules however land hunting go with the deus

[@ChillBill1]

+NH beach metaldetecting good news. I'm unsure of the Deus on wet sand. The sniper coil on the CTX is also a big plus for mudlarking. I will test soon. Deus needs a sniper coil.

[@NHbeachmetaldetecting]

super video

[@ChillBill1]

Thanks

[@xIAmDaNinjax]

I live in Glasgow 8n mental health condition 0lease be patient thanks

[@AntonTodyka]

Incorrect testing! Search coils different size, what settings?? Sesetivity settings. YOU could test XP DEUS with same big 11"x13 inch. Than results would be totally different. And se on top Sesetivity to 100% and custom soil mineralisation setting. You should put at least one coin in ground and then test all detector on same etalon.

[@wendelhose7257]

sorry harness is called detector buddy, video on detector comparisons youtube looks good for ctx 3030

[@rhystanbrown8506]

Bill, you do realise the CTX is Australian and not American???

[@Stevesmith-yw7cr]

Nice video but put a dead cat on the mic....too much wind noise. Makes it hard to listen to.

[@Stevesmith-yw7cr]

How about the live cat?

[@ziggyjinx]

That's fair enough 👍

[@knmo3050]

Love my Deus...Just saying....

[@BusyBeeCompany]

Get a swingy thing then swing away all day.

[@packmantreasures4687]

When i hear people Say ctx is heavy sorry to Say this but it's sounds like you people are little girls crying. ( Ctx is not heavy at all)))

[@gmvrescatandoloperdido6336]

Hola Señore salud you👍

[@ChillBill1]

Hola!

[@djhoudini700]

Keep both machines..simple

[@copalpagan2407]

deus for me until the wheels fall off... the CTX is too slow on ancient sites thus making you swing slower, cover less ground and make less finds... speed is everything in Britain.. maybe in the US and Aus detecting is different because they don't have thousands of years of metalworking and iron contamination.. the same reason VDI is important in the US and fairly meaningless in Europe.

[@ChillBill1]

Good points

[@MrMYVOICE8]

the ctx is Australian not American

[@ChillBill1]

good point but I believe the US is the big market for them.

[@xIAmDaNinjax]

also small spade

[@therevster9828]

Deus is top up too now Bill.

[@finds7147]

Minelab are Australian, so that's a fail straight away, and I doubt you even have it set up properly for the site your searching, to many people on KZbin criticising machines they know very little about!

[@wendelhose7257]

swing harness detector budy

[@ChillBill1]

+wendel Hose yes I think a harness is a necessity for the CTX, but that's another $120-160. The exoskeleton should be in the box from the get go.

[@rhystanbrown8506]

Rubbish Bill, I am a 77 year old moderately fit and healthy femle and the GTX is totally fine. I detect for about 3 hours at a time and even when I have retired the detector over summer when I pick it up again its still okay for 2-3 hours. Maybe the Australian GTX are lighter than the British ones. (grins)

[@ThePbZepplin]

This is a flawed test. Unless you grid off your test area, you are very likely to miss targets that is not related to depth.

[@ChillBill1]

Im not terribly interested in depth. I'm interested in finds per hour and houer many hours it is practical to use a device. If you hunt in any given environment, as long as its relatively rich in finds, you will know which machine is best after a few hours.

[@metaldetectormark8384]

Swings and roundabouts gl&hh

[@fabiobonavera3594]

Ma! Ctx my metal detector in 2017 !!! No very very deep !!!!! No !!! Blistoll is very deep detech is very deep ctx is thery sensible !

[@vincenzoianni5471]

Scusate ma io come faccio a capire cosa dite che nn capisco un tubino vorrei capire come impostare il metal

[@Freekiter17]

Hi I'm like your movie, worry interesting and increase my inglish Ukraine with you

[@AndrewPattullo]

Deus v ctx omg ... please ... total rubbish . Ctx not set up . Or set up rubbish on purpose ... jog on

[@xIAmDaNinjax]

would love a deuse but I'll probably never get dream machine if anybody giving up for reasons I'm starting for reason my minds health.and are getting rid of old machine I'll do anything for you and give you all mi finds for five year would really die for one probably die firs ha but any old timers wanting the loved machine loved again please me I'll do anything for one of these

[@ChillBill1]

Scott, try bottle digging. Its great fun and you don't need any special equipment. Mudlarking also needs no detector.

[@xIAmDaNinjax]

Will do thats

[@xIAmDaNinjax]

Thanks

[@xIAmDaNinjax]

Олександр Бражник ok how

[@guymitchy]

Deus all the way...... Ctx3030 is just a coloured screen etrac...... Waste of money........

[@AndrewPattullo]

Total rubbish ....