You NEED a NAS for Video Editing! why and how to do it

[@SpaceRexWill]

Best Synology NAS for Video editing (Will be constantly updated): www.spacerex.co/best-synology-nas-for-video-editing/

[@MarkDalbey-cv9sb]

I like Hawaiian shirts. Kudos to anybody that wears one. I had a whole closet of Hawaiian shirts that I bough at thrift shops over several years, but I got married and my wife didn't like Hawaiian shirts and out went the Hawaiian shirts. I should have kept the shirts, I ended up divorcing my wife. My suggestion is if your wife says it is the shirts or her, keep the shirts. You can always get a new wife. Getting new Hawaiian shirts is a little harder.

[@SpaceRexWill]

This was a wild ride

[@DavidM2002]

I'm with you. Who got custody of the NAS ???

[@alberto93sa]

She got the crappy Wd Network drive…

[@727JTY72jdjdjddh]

Has anyone ever told you you are a bloody clever man! Legend 💯

[@SpaceRexWill]

haha thanks man!

[@EricMakingWaves]

Bro you’re hero for making this. I’m just a solo freelancer starting out, but this is exactly what I needed. 👍🏼

[@MariusIhlar]

Amazing tutorial, Thanks! Would love to see the performance of a 4K timeline from a nas, scrubbing the timeline and playback. :)

[@rafaelmitsuotanaka]

Really appreciate you sharing all this knowledge! Thanks a lot!

[@keithsanborn8508]

Watched this again. Amazingly clearly stated and practical information. Thanks!!

[@IntoxicatedVortex]

For the price of the DS3622xs+ I would maybe consider 2 x DS1821+/RS1221+ units instead. You'll get more bays overall but if you were to implement on 10GbE/25GbE SFP expansion cards you can use one for an SSD only "hammer" for active projects to the offload them to the other as a "warm archive" full of large size HDDs. This way you get the best of both worlds of performance and size.

[@TazzSmk]

I guess it really depends on total active throughput requirements, having two units syncing each other would congest network, while having one unit accessing drives internally would leave network I/O free for editor's use

[@IntoxicatedVortex]

@TazzSmk if you care about "in use performance" then you go with a dual 25GbE card. It's not like your computer is going to be connected at that speed nor will a 2nd NAS with HDDs ingest at that speed over one with SSD. And it's not like you can't set backup/snapshot replication (or other) for the evening. People do sleep. It can as fluid and invasive as you want to make it. As with all things it comes down to what's important and what one is prepared to pay for it.

[@TazzSmk]

@@IntoxicatedVortex true, but let's not forget the added costs for 25Gbe NICs and infrastructure, for smaller business usage, it's "cheaper" to have internal RAID with bandwidth of 6Gbe per SATA disk on its own

[@IntoxicatedVortex]

@TazzSmk if you can afford a DS3622xs+ and the Synology media that goes with it cost isn't an issue.

[@WoodieLanderos]

I just switched over not long ago and have been setting everything up with all of your videos!

[@ozmosyd]

Exactly the information I'm looking for - Thanks chap!

[@rangefreewords]

Still can't imagine a pcie slot with m.2 available, quickly swappable. Here you are.

[@watchastra]

Loved! It can you make a tutorial like in how to set it up in the system? I still don’t know how it looks when I open premiere or how do I drag the files… is it by proxies?

[@dragancesma115]

Just to add an option for video editors - adding a Synology DX517 (5 drive e-sata box) to your existing Synology NAS is a might be a good idea for expanding the ever growing cold storage needs!

[@Norain1992]

Waiting for you collaboration video. :D Would be great to see something like Blackmagic Cloud for DaVinci Resolve.

[@SpaceRexWill]

Haha funny enough I am doing final review of that video right now. Looks like it should be live on the 24th

[@Norain1992]

@@SpaceRexWill Excited on this one, haha :D Good timing

[@David-bl1bt]

I have been watching your excellent videos for a while trying to get my head around installation and use of a NAS . I dont have one yet but your videos are extremely interesting and useful in helping me to understand all about NAS as it has been a mystery! I have two laptops each with an almost full hard drive and now running slooooow, so im looking at a NAS as a central storage solution. I have a lot of video on each laptop hard drive, I'm wondering whether I can simply remove the two hard drives and install them directly into a NAS rather than have to transfer all the data from each manuallY, ehich I would imagine is a tedious and timeconsuming task? You have a great way of explaining things in an easy to understand and digest format, thank you for sharing your knowledge, I have learned a great deal over the last few weeks by watching your videos.

[@m_saqibali]

What do you think about ugreen's soon to be released nasync series? Would it change any of the steps you've taken in this video?

[@themrgumbatron]

What a great video. Thanks

[@user-wc2yr3xm1g]

Great vid! Question: Do you only need to invest in a NVME SSD if you are not editing off one or two SSD drives? Does the NVME work against you if you have SSDs installed in general? Ultimate hardware setup seems to be 3 7200rmp, 2 SSD, 1 NVME, and 1 8gb RAM...? Thanks!

[@AladdinSerraoui]

Hello, and thank you for all the information you provided! 😊 I bought a Synology DS1821+ and am buying all the necessary parts to improve it. Can you please tell me if I’m doing something wrong? 🙏 I have an excellent internet connection (8 Gbits/s up and down), and my internet box has a 10G SFP+ port. My office is 3 feet away from my internet box and my NAS, so I’m getting a 1 Unifi Switch 4 Ports 10G USW-FLEX-XG, 8x Iron Wolf Pro Nas 18TB, 2x Samsung 990 Pro with heatsink SSD 4TB, 1x E10G21-T2, 2x Synology D4ER01-16G, and 1x Sonnet Technologies Solo 10G Adaptateur Thunderbolt 3 for my laptop.

[@DrDGr2]

No switches listed in the “description below”

[@fatheadmediapro]

Is there a solution for UPS for a NAS and Mac Studio? Looks like the one you suggested only has one USB and I would like both my Studio and NAS to shut off after a power outage. Thank you for any input, your channel has been so helpful for me!

[@macjonte]

Smb, is that something to recommend in 2023? Force people to work at the office or wait for a hours for download of raw footage. Better with Synology drive and sync against external ssd? Will also minimize bottlenecks in the setup, only your computer sets the limits.

[@SpaceRexWill]

For remote users checkout this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZSclqVrg7mhb7c

[@mauricarreno]

Hi, what about a smaller local NAS for video editing like 2 or 4 bay?

[@izakniemann5734]

Glad I discovered your channel. I am in search for an external SSD hard drive for video editing on my 2019 16 inch MacBook Pro, using DaVinci Resolve. My vidoes are all 4K, 10-Bit. I am NOT working with teams, it's just my wife and I doing our own thing. After more than a week of research, I'm still very unsure what to buy. My best guess is that I need at least 8 - 10TB. Or is more better? I'm looking at the Glyph Blackbox PRO RAID Desktop Drive at a massive $566.45 but Glyph is based in the USA and they build good stuff. But the above mentioned product is HHD, not SSD. WHAT A BUMMER. Please guide me in the right direction. What do you recommend? I would really appreciate that.

[@RelaxingSoundstreams]

@SpaceRexWill Question: When you make your shared directories on your NAS for adobe Premiere Pro Productions do you turn on "Enable data checksum for advanced data integrity" ?

[@madisonsmith509]

Very useful info!! Quick question, if I am only editing off my mac that has 4tb ssd, can I use this as the cache if I still upgrade to the 2.5 gig laptop adapter and 10gb expansion card for NAS??

[@marqman05]

Is the ds1522+ good for 4k raw editing? Prores raw / black magic raw.

[@fernandust]

Do your editing volumes are also accessible through synology drive or you access them only over smb? I have a laptop with synology drive sync on demand activated and a desktop over smb 10gig. but I noticed some slowdowns on the desktop when editing because synology drive is indexing. Is it a bad idea to include those editing volumes in synology drive? Any suggestions are truly appreciated 😊😊

[@vono360]

For speed purposes you’d find it best to connect via smb

[@AOJOPhotography]

When you use a Nas with dual 2.5-Gigabit Ethernet ports in SMB Multichannel does the Computer have to have dual 2.5gb ports as well to get faster speeds than a single 2.5gb connection?

[@AngelusHD]

@SpaceRexWill At this very moment i own a Synology 916+ with 4x4TB - 12TB with SHR (Raid 5) for storage purposes. For video editing we work with T7 4TB SSD external harddrive. Now i was wondering to start with an 1522+ with 5 times 12TB which makes 48TB and add 10GBit module and maybe 1 or 2 400GB cache? Do i need 2 or will 1 be enough. That all being said maybe 2 new 12TB for my old 916+ for a bigger storage. Because 2 of the 4 HDD 4 TB are 7 years old now. Maybe a 1821+ would be a better option because i would have 3 slots more to expand. Do you think including 1 cache will be enough for video editing? Or are 2 times 400GB required. Thanks in advance.

[@unknownKnownunknowns]

@~28:00 sounds like the first upgrade for remote read speed in an all hdd Synology would be an NVME cache drive, not a RAM upgrade, correct?

[@SpaceRexWill]

Yes correct!

[@unknownKnownunknowns]

Thank you!

[@azwb]

I would like to get the 1522+ ---- Is the 1522+ excluded from the "Warning Light"? You mentioned 3 Models requiring Synology Drives are : DS3622xs+, DS1823xs+, DS2422+ ( I didn't hear mention of warming light with that model)

[@SpaceRexWill]

So warning light is currently on any units built after ~2020 that are at least one of the following: NAS with greater than 8 bays internal NAS labled as XS+ (though the DS1621xs+ does not have the warning light, but the DS1823xs+ does) So the 1522 and 1821+ both are safe!

[@fabiankeppler315]

Since synology has been forcing their HDD's and SDD's on the boxes for 300% markup we took the trueNas route

[@TazzSmk]

lack of native file management in TrueNAS still makes me stay with Synology's DSM, and for any high-performance and availability needs there's virtualization like Proxmox directly

[@SpaceRexWill]

If you have a really solid IT understanding and ONLY need an SMB file server then TrueNAS can absolutely be the best choice. I personally use it for my video editing file server

[@WillJauregui]

so lets say I've got a read cache with two 1tb nvme drives in RAID 0, and I'm editing a project in premiere with 1.5tb of footage....will a copy of all that footage live on that RAID array while I'm editing/exporting so i have the best performance possible? if so, when does it get cleared from the cache? if the files arent copied into the cache...in what way would a cache benefit me during editing/exporting?

[@RaquelHernandezCruz]

How about RS2423RP+ for Remote multi cam 4k editing?

[@20centurymodern]

1) Does the warning go away with non compatible hard drives when using the + models? 2) Can you use any brand for read only NVME cache on the + models or does it have to be Synology brand?

[@kentcurrie7326]

What is impact of 5-bay expansion unit?

[@SpaceRexWill]

So if you have hard drives in it, there is no significant impact. But it would be a bottleneck for SSDs in there

[@kentcurrie7326]

@@SpaceRexWill Just HDs. 10 18GBs in two asymmetric volumes. Also, one 8 TB iSCSI drive. Using Davinci.

[@ericstevens1198]

Do you have a list of switches you recommend?

[@SpaceRexWill]

Should really make one! for 10GbE though the ones I often recommend are: Unifi 4 port 10GbE 1 port 1GbE Netgear 2 Port 10, 8 port 1 GbE UniFi 12 Port 10GbE, 2 SFP28 I have had clients with a lot of bad experience with the QNAP ones

[@ekossan]

@@SpaceRexWillYou should, have been hoping for one for months!

[@memcrew1]

Could you do a raid 5 with a 4 bay NAS?

[@carlos_mann]

What would be recommended it if I had roughly 75+ tb of mp3 & mp4s and I wanted to have hundreds of people accessing the songs simultaneously? How much Cache memory and how do I know if I'll need 10 gb - 25 bg - 40 gb speeds? (For easily calculations, Mp3 songs are 10 mb, mp4s are 100 mb), my collection 75 tb.

[@eddiegomez4134]

What 10gbe to Thunderbolt adapter do ya recommend?

[@eddiegomez4134]

Ended up biting the bulllet on the OWC Thunderbolt Hub; its amazing; getting 500-630Mbs Writes / 1000mbs Reads. Another; question I have a GRaid I was using previously; would you. recommend that as a back up for the synology?

[@SgtSOB]

Hi SpaceRex..... thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I just had a question regarding my setup. I have a DS1621+ with 16Gb of RAM and a Synology 10Gb Ethernet Adapter. I did a direct connect of the 10Gb adapter to my video editing PC for the speed but I also kept all my 4 1Gb ports connected to my switch. So there are two IP addresses. I was just curious if there was a video going through that kind of setup or if you had any recommendations. It seems to be working but I get Windows Security message every time I copy a file/folder from the NAS saying the files may be harmful to my computer. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[@mrhevia]

Hey man! Great video as usual. I have a question tho. I have the 1522+ unit. I also have 2 400gb synology nvme as read cache. Do you think it would be good or possible to have only one synology nvme as read cache and the other one as a separate volume for editing only? Again, thanks man!

[@SpaceRexWill]

So it really comes down to your editing setup. If all your active projects can live on ~500 gigs then what I would do is: Setup the 2 NVMe drives as a RAID0 storage pool (if they are both Synology) Create a shared folder for active projects on that NVMe drive Setup an hourly snapshot replication from the NVMe shared folder to the HDD volume. This means that your NVMe drives could go down and you would lose at worst 1 hour of work. Having the NVMes as RAID0 gives you the most space, which for me is well worth it. If your projects are only ~100 gigs you could do RAID1 for redundancy. If you are not editing off the HDD volume than SSD cache is better served as a volume

[@ToffeFilm]

What usb-c to 2.5 Gbe adabter do you use for your Macbook Pro M1?

[@MartinRoedl]

i wonder, if you have any idea, why i cannot copy 50GB mkv file movie from WD NAS to my Sysnology? At teh 100%, it writes, that the connection is unstable, yet, it isnt. Tryied 3 times to copy and everytime the same...

[@SCHALKERKUMPEL]

Because Apple Mac OS does not properly support the SMB protocol... Unfortunately... I am struggling with that myself. You would be better off with a DAS not a NAS.

[@MartinRoedl]

@@SCHALKERKUMPEL Hey, I solved it! I copied it within Findrer, not withing the browswer. 75GB copied.

[@bweezy7278]

Do you need to use synology branded ram and ssds for caching?

[@SpaceRexWill]

You do not

[@riccardofissore7996]

I passed my last years after covid to explain all this stuff to…..my bosses 😢😢😢😢😢

[@Norain1992]

For our usecase a 2.5GbE network would be enough - editing 3-4 low bitrate clips mulitcam with 2-3 editors. (Using proxies is allways a good solution anyway for smoother playback on a Laptop) We would get some Seagate Exos X16 which are listed with 261 MB/s write - that should be fine for the 2.5GbE network, right? Unfortunately the NAS I am using right now Synology DS720+ is limited to 225 MB/s (read) and 195 MB/s (write) - So we can expect a bottleneck with this NAS using a 2.5GbE Adapter, right? the Synology DS723+ listed as 465 MB/s read and 228 MB/s write seems to be better but still not convincing since these are the max values. (dunno why you would want to upgrade this one to 10GbE...) So which is the best choice if we are looking for a 2.5GbE solution? The DS923+ maybe? (listed 625/559 MB/s max) Another question: How much does docker VMs and the Synology Apps slow down the system? Since I am running a VM and some Dockers I was thinking about using the SSD Cache as NVME storage running VM and docker there. Final question: Is it worth to use the drives with 4kn sector, Do we get any benefit by doing that for video editing? Keep up the great content! All the best

[@coolcat23]

11:11 "One gig is pretty much stock on every computer". I doubt that applies to anything remotely modern. If it were true for most computers then there would be no point (except for multi-editor support) to have a 2.5 Gb/s (or faster) connection on the NAS. The 1 Gb/s connections on most Synology NASs are simply not ideal for video editing, even when using multi-channel support. QNAP offers more performant hardware for the same price and the potentially associated higher security risk does not play a role, if the NAS is not exposed to the internet. I have a Synology NAS myself, but would never have chosen it, if I had wanted to do video editing with it.

[@chriss2595]

Don't like NAS. Too complicated on old hardware. Multiple M.2 NVME's is the way to go.

[@jonoin35mm98]

Works great as a solo production house, but as soon as you have 3,4,5 that gets very expensive and is way more prone to human error like “where did I leave my m.2” or “which one did I put it on again?”

[@ryansulak]

can you elaborate? i just bought an 8 bay synology with all SSDs but will look into your option

[@amith2947]

this is my feedback on your videos, please don't take this personally. Please show more and talk less. Within a min of your videos, I wanna click away personally your videos bore me 🙄. I'm really sorry. you are really knowledgeable but the videos are like class-room. please change it. thank you

[@MediaWebservice]

That is part of good technical information. If you only want to see ADHD movement, then you are looking for another channel, right? Keep it up @Spacerex your info and presentation is legend. Since your new location it looks neat. 🏆👍

[@amith2947]

​@@MediaWebservice Technical information? 🤣🤣🤣 Mate, I didn't ask for the user manual. The Man is rambling for the first 7 min 🙄 but anyway, you continue with your lecturer 😂