You NEED to know this DROPSHOT Knot!! (NO MORE PALOMAR KNOTS!)

This is a new way I had never heard of to tie a dropshot until recently that's better than any other knot I know of! I saw a video on TikTok about this and after using this method to tie my dropshops, I'll never go back to a Palomar knot.
This is by far the best dropshot knot I've ever used and I wanted to share it with you, I think you'll never tie a dropshot any other way!
I've caught largemouth bass, walleye, freshwater drum and an assortment of panfish using this dropshot knot and have found the hookup ratio to be better than with a standard Palomar knot, and I'm sure it's because the hook is staying straight and true while I work my bait or lure. Give it a try and I'm sure you won't regret it!
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In order to give credit where credit is due, the video I watched on TikTok was made by a user named Popafunk, and here is the link to his TikTok that he made about it a while back:
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[@jeffdicks]

Did you already know about this way to tie it? Do you know what this knot is called? Let me know!

[@dimitrispantazopoulos8775]

Thanks a million dude and 🤘

[@robertwatters8139]

My Club mates have made observations like" is one thickness of line strong enough??" Have you doubled or tripled the line through the eye of the hook before tying the knot??

[@rockytopwrangler2069]

.. It's 1/2 of a Uni-knot , commonly used in fly fishing ,,joining 2 different sized lines ,, such as line to leader ... or multi sized lines to make a leader ... 4-8 wraps with BOTH lines ,, full Uni-knot , , wet and tighten .... creates a smooth "barrel" looking knot connection that will pass through your rod tip guides ... ... note: for a 1/2 knot used here ,, always wrap on the opposite side of the hook eye cut or it will cut your line on hookset ..

[@irench]

There is another more complicated and useless version where the loops are rolled through then the hook is passed halfway through and the end result is about the same. This looks much easier and I do the drop lots. I tried the other way and it was fantastic for presentation and HORRIBLE as soon as the hook set happened it broke off like 4 out of 5. I was convinced it was a massive fish taking my rig. Yeah, no I tied the tag to a patio chair and gave a good tug with the rod while watching the knot, it sheered the line above the wraps. So, I hope this works but doesn't sheer. More info to come.

[@jeffdicks]

@irench I don't know anything about the method you mentioned, but I do know that I fought a 15lbs freshwater drum on 8lbs test fluorocarbon line using this knot without it breaking. If you've ever caught freshwater drum while casting, you know that when they dig, they dig HARD.

[@Richard-jc2fo]

I saw this demonstrated about 2 years ago by an Asian guy. Been using it ever since. Very simple, works great

[@jimfournier9065]

Wow, how simple is that, thank you!!!

[@Marius-ct9fu]

This was pure joy to learn! Im now going fishing for Norweigan perch 😃 thanks for showing and explaning this simple! I made it! 🎣

[@jeffdicks]

I'm so glad I could help you learn something new!

[@billytripp4849]

Will definitely try this knot! Thanks

[@user-dp2eq9sw5x]

I just broke off with a drop shot polamor knot, your knot is soooooo much better. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@jeffdicks]

I'm glad you like it! Happy I could help teach you something new!

[@marylucero-yt8rj]

love this new drop shot knot!! Thanks for sharing!

[@jeffdicks]

I'm glad my video could help you out! I love this knot for tying dropshots, I haven't used a palomar knot since I learned this one

[@canyonk9332]

Super easy to follow, great instructions thanks!

[@sfg_night4th745]

Thanks for showing this knot! Just got into dropshot fishing.

[@jeffdicks]

I'm glad I could help you learn something new! I haven't tied a Palomar knot for dropshotting since I learned this one! Good luck playing with a new technique! Dropshot is an amazing way to fish all depths for many different species! My preferred bait is a Limestone Lures Ripple Worm or Scrappie Fluke (but I'm a little biasd 😉)

[@catchercoach4918]

Well done!!!

[@donaldmoss3495]

That was a great help. Have been having trouble getting my hook to sit upright. This works very well, Thanks

[@jeffdicks]

I'm really glad I could help you out! I haven't used any other knot for dropshotting since making this video!

[@philipdelhagenphilip9786]

Man ……I want to thank you for sharing that drop shot knot . I can’t wait to get out there and try it .

[@jeffdicks]

I'm thrilled you learned something new from my video! It really is a great and easy way to tie a dropshop! Let me know how it works out for you!

[@gerardamitranno8837]

Nice job , looks great !

[@jeffdicks]

Thanks! I'm so glad you liked it!

[@jdalend]

Excellent

[@lawrencebernas9229]

So easy to tie, thank you

[@stevendixon4668]

thanks very easy and quick

[@indeeponthedeltawithstevec5997]

Great Job Jeff-good luck with the channel. Just subbed.

[@dannyagnew8471]

Brilliant thanks

[@aliben2404]

nice and very simple. thank you for that

[@jeffdicks]

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!

[@thomasanderson4774]

Think that’s the best knot for drop shot, thanks gor the video.

[@jeffdicks]

My pleasure! Glad it helped you out!

[@PAPERandPENCILguy]

Oh bruh. This is so easy. Going to try this weekend

[@williamp7278]

Just went out drop shot fishing. Used this way. I mean, it doesnt get any easier than this way. Unfortunately i got a bunch of snags, but this way is soooo fast. Needless to say, Im really good at tying this knot now . Total game changer, and the hook sets perfect, EVERY time! Palomar is a joke haha. Thank you so much 🙌🙏

[@jeffdicks]

Right? There's nothing wrong with the palomar, but for me, this is 10x easier and faster. You're definately right on the hookset part too!

[@andrewwheal5331]

Nice one. Many thanks.

[@jeffdicks]

Glad I could help!!

[@JohnKlopp]

I like that, easy peasy!

[@jeffdicks]

It's so easy, and it works super well!

[@williamvarma8400]

How is your bass season going? Always a pleasure to watch your videos

[@jeffdicks]

Honestly I haven't targeted bass as much as I have in the past. Really trying to figure out the Walleye in Bay of Quinte and Lake Ontario. I have caught a few nice largies though

[@QuietWildernessFishing]

😲 what is this sorcery! Definitely gonna give this a try.

[@jeffdicks]

It's so worth it, easy to tie and holds your bait straight every time without having to mess with it

[@paullockett6086]

It's a modified 4 turn blood loop dropper knot I think that's what its called used be used to form dropper loops on sea fishing rigs or on fly casts

[@alanrcrook]

I believe it's called a wrap loop knot... theres a way to do it with two lines to make a connection but I can't find the video.... been wanting to learn this knot... now I Have!! Thanks for this, Jeff!

[@jeffdicks]

Glad I could help you out!

[@rickmuha4278]

Thanks

[@clubcool3583]

Nice video

[@magdalenadicks7373]

You taught me something new 😘

[@jeffdicks]

You'll have to start tying your own knots soon lol

[@ernestperez4602]

Like it, Thank You

[@roygreenwood79]

If you pass the line through the eye twice it's even better 😊

[@hygeia54]

Nice ...I always use the palomar, but i'm definitely going to give this a try...thanks, subrcribed and liked👍👍👍

[@jeffdicks]

I always did too until I found this knot, I haven't tied a palomar for a dropshot since!

[@Cornelius798]

Thanks!

[@jeffdicks]

I'm glad I could help you out!

[@Trouble368]

Thank you

[@jeffdicks]

You are most welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@jklo1313]

any tips to estimate your leader length. ?

[@C.Rig21]

I've always felt that the jagged part of the hook eye would rub against the line and cause a break under hard pressure. It's why i haven't used this knot. It totally works better for standing the hook out but; I don't know .

[@phishtacosfishingandstuff2677]

You are absolutely correct.

[@jeffdicks]

If you are not careful when tying it, that is something that can happen. However, if you just take a quick moment before cinching it down you can make sure that the line isn't stuck wrapped around the end of the hookeye. I have only ever had this knot break on me once and it's because I was trying to horse in the fish to hard with drag set too tight.

[@harrisonu]

Learned something new too lol.

[@jeffdicks]

I'm glad you learned from my video!

[@TheIconicFisherman]

You're essentially tying a modified dropper loop knot the only difference is instead of putting the excess line through the opening to create a loop on your line you're putting a hook through instead that's the only difference.

[@nookymonster1]

That's how I learned 20 years ago. Good video.

[@williamp7278]

Just tied one. So much easier 👌👌👏

[@jeffdicks]

Right? I don't know if this is neccessarily BETTER than a palomar, but I haven't used anything else to tie my dropshots since learning it

[@Crappie_Day]

Dude your video came up on my algorithms, and i tried this knot because id get annoyed when the hook turns out sideways or upside down. After i tried this knot, it happened like you said, upright every single time.

[@jeffdicks]

I'm super glad you found my video then! It's It's wicked way to tie your dropshots, I can't see any reason to tie it any other way now

[@rrf5336]

So simple!!!

[@jeffdicks]

Easy peasy!

[@samcro4057]

probably a good idea to maybe use a colored braid to do instructionals like this.

[@jeffdicks]

Thanks for the feedback! I'll keep that in mind for the next one I do like this!

[@bobbybass1944]

Great video !! Does that work with very light line ? Can't wait to try it .

[@jeffdicks]

I've used it on line as light as 6lbs test mono. just have to make sure you're using a rod and weight appropriate for light tackle like that.

[@bobbybass1944]

Thank you

[@Comrade_Akimov]

I also tie it like this, but if you test the knot, it rips the line like a knife! if line is, say 10kg, it cuts off at 4kg max!

[@jeffdicks]

I dunno... I've caught 15+ lbs freshwater drum on 8-10lbs test fluorocarbon before so I'd be inclined to suggest you may be doing something wrong

[@Comrade_Akimov]

@@jeffdicks I suspect shitty hooks

[@F16ViperGuy]

Can you do it with a brighter line or string for us older folks?

[@jeffdicks]

I will do that for you!

[@StelmachsWorld]

Started to use the dropshot and been using the vmc spinshots loosing all my decent fish lol. What hooks do you use

[@jeffdicks]

I use VMC Sureset dropshot hooks. Usually #2. I've also had success with BKK dropshot hooks. Realistically you can use any hook that has that general design. I've even used mosquito worm hooks with good success on a dropshot

[@wciii3591]

I've used this know a lot. If you look closely at his know, you will see the line is caught in the low end of the hook eyelet. It will break there.

[@pequenioedgarito3067]

Its a looper knot which is same that you use for catfish or big game fish. Its a SOLID KNOT and I have never lost a bass 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@jeffdicks]

Thanks for the info! I'm still using this knot for every dropshot I tie and it hasn't let me down since making this video. 10/10 will keep recommending

[@TheMNbassHunter]

I've been interested in trying this knot. I typically use the Palomar. I keep having issues with the knot breaking using this knot though. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm wetting the line when cinching and it looks correct when I'm done. It just doesn't have the strength I get from the Palomar, not even close.

[@jeffdicks]

Make sure when your cinching it down that the loop doesn't get caught on the end of the eyelet, the end part where the bend meets the shaft of the hook. That little bit of abrasion will be enough to cut the line under tension. Make sure everything is in the smooth bend of the eyelet.

[@MrFishhook]

It doesn’t matter if you tie this knot perfectly it will break ! I’ve tested it 10 times and it breaks to easily!!!

[@ibench_135]

I’ve never felt something so complicated in my entire life

[@jeffdicks]

No disrespect, but if thats complicated to you, perhaps you should try and get out more 😂

[@stephenkerpan9819]

I've watched probably 4 or 5 guys tie "their" favorite drop shot knot. Guess what; they're all the same. It does seem to work quite well! I keep expecting someone to come up with something different and it never is.

[@jeffdicks]

The only ones I know of are this one, whatever it's called, loop knot or something, and a Palomar knot. They both work well, I prefer this one for drop shotting. I still use a palomar knot in other applications though.

[@donaldstephensen8654]

Will it work with double drop on 4lb? Thanks

[@jeffdicks]

If by double drop, you mean trying on two hooks above the weight instead of just one, yes. I did it with 2 ice fishing and used a buckshot as the weight. In theory it worked well, but for ice fishing it wasn't a great idea. Kept getting bit on the bottom hook, then getting the top hook caught on the ice and losing the fish. You won't have that problem open water fishing though so it will work just fine.

[@donaldstephensen8654]

@@jeffdicks ok thanks bud

[@MrFishhook]

That knot looks great and does what it says . BUT it breaks real easy !!!! Get some gloves and do pull test ! It breaks so easy ! Pro figured this out quickly!!!!!

[@jeffdicks]

I have not had any issues with this breaking. I've caught 10+ lbs freshwater drum on 8lbs fluorocarbon and it held up no problem. Bass, pike, walleye, no issues at all. The one time it did break on me was totally preventable. When I tied my knot around my hook, I saw that it had slipped to the side where the hook eyelet was joined. I saw this, and decided to giv'r anyways, even though I knew I should have adjusted it. Hooked into a decent size bass and it broke, right at the knot where it was rubbing against the edge of the hook eyelet.

[@baseballgod8065]

Is this as strong as a Palomar knot?

[@jeffdicks]

As strong or stronger. I caught a 10+lbs drum on 8lbs fluorocarbon line two days ago using this knot for a dropshot. I haven't had one break on me yet.

[@Puddlefishinginscotland]

@jeffdicks if using this not how are you attaching to mainline or are you doing this direct from mainline?

[@jeffdicks]

You can tie this directly to a mono or fluoro mainline, or on the leader if it's long enough. I usually tie my leaders at least 3-4 feet, so I usually have enough to tie 2 or 3 of these before having to tie on a new leader

[@Puddlefishinginscotland]

@@jeffdicks thanks and I'm fairly certain the knot is the uni knot tight lines

[@learningtofish7036]

I lost too many big trout with this knot. Still searching for a replacement for the Palomar.

[@jeffdicks]

Oh wow that's a bummer! Since posting this video I've only had it fail on me one time, and I'm pretty sure I just messed up the knot. I've got big 10+ lbs freshwater drum using this knot on 8lbs fluoro. It seem like a silly question, but are you sure you've been tying it correctly?

[@learningtofish7036]

@@jeffdicks I discovered this knot 2 years ago on tube. I've seen it exactly the same on 4 videos. It's so easy how can we get it wrong? I use 6-8 pound fluoro for trout. They're lineshy. I've been using the Palomar now, moderate action and setting drag. A 5- 7 pound trout is no joke.

[@phishtacosfishingandstuff2677]

Palomar is stronger. People will believe what they will.

[@suhailhabibzadah8634]

Where's the other 4 more episodes? I 🤦‍♂️

[@Puddlefishinginscotland]

Iv been tying it but the knot always seems to go behind the eye

[@jeffdicks]

If you make the loops smaller before clinching down the knot, it will make it easier to keep the line from twisting around the eyelet bend.

[@rodrigoelgu]

Maybe with mono, but with fluorocarbon you need to retie every fish of it'll brake .

[@jeffdicks]

I've had this knot tied on my current dropshot rod on a fluorocarbon leader (braid mainline) for at least 20 fish. VMC SureSet #1 hook. You just have to make sure when you're tying it that the line doesn't loop around to where the eyelet bend meets the hook shank. If you're not careful and let that happen, it will break the line. This goes for any knot, on any hook.

[@jeffdicks]

The alternative is to use one of the new VMC Redline hooks that have the eyelet bend coated in resin to prevent the knot from rubbing on the edge.

[@rodrigoelgu]

@@jeffdicks only knot strong with fluorocarbon that I've found is the double pitzen knot, I'm using 10lb pline 100% fluorocarbon, owner cover shot drop shot hooks and I keep braking off, even the Palomar has work better for me where you have to feed the tag end down the hook to make it seat straight, I might try it with mono I think mono will work but flouro is tricky with it comes to knots.

[@jeffdicks]

@rodrigoelgu that's strange. I use a combination of the Berkley fluorocarbon and spider wire fluorocarbon and have never had issues with knots. I use them as leaders on all my rods with braid mainline.

[@wrench6122]

This is the best way to tie when you are using fluoro. You can use a palomar, but if you get the line looped the wrong way while tying (most ppl don't know the difference) it will break every time you set the hook. With the knot in this video provided that you tie it EXACTLY like he shows you, it will not break. I have been using this knot for several years and it works great.

[@jeffdicks]

Exactly! I have been using this knot since I made this video and except when I screw it up, for example, by letting the line slip down to the end of the eyelet, that's the only time I've ever had one fail.

[@bobmcgehee1749]

That’s the only way I’ve ever tied one. Actually I didn’t know there’s another way?

[@jeffdicks]

Using a Palomar knot has been the most common way to tie a dropshot that most people, including myself, used to tie a dropshot. After I discovered this method, I haven't looked back!

[@anythingbryan]

Solid meh

[@jeffdicks]

Don't knock it till you try it!

[@anythingbryan]

@@jeffdicks I have. It gets the job done. The standard palomar when you pass the line back down through the top pulls the knot into the hook eye and all points of contact are doubled. I think that is the step a lot of anglers miss. This is a good knot but I personally don’t think it is superior. Thanks for not replying like a tool even though my comment was douchey.

[@jeffdicks]

There's no doubt the Palomar is a great knot. I'm just super impressed with how simple, quick and easy this one is to tie, and just how good it is at keeping the hook true. If it's not for you, that's cool, I wanted to make people aware there is another option to the Palomar for a dropshot knot. Thanks for the feedback! Douchy or not, I'm cool with it 😎

[@bobbarnhill8557]

Just used this knot yesterday for the first time. Bubba shot style with a baby brush hog. I caught 90 bass. I retied once just because I had caught so many fish. This knot is superior to the Palomar knot in my Opinion. Make sure that the knot seats at the top of the hook eye and not on the shank.

[@jeffsmith9047]

This is a great knot, but the line crosses over the cut in the wire on the eye of the hook causing it to break on hook sets or snags at random. Why can't a hook manufacturer simply extend the wire of the eye down the shank a few millimeters so that that part of the knot lays against smooth wire not the cut of the eye? They could even taper it. It would only have extend a few millimeters. You could probably get away without having a weld in there as long as it layed tight against the shank. Problem solved, no more messing around with the unpredictable polymer knot. Just my 2 cents.

[@jeffdicks]

It's true, you dk have to be careful when cinching it down or you will get one line over the eyelet. The new VMC Redline hooks are actually exactly like what you said we need. Specifically the dropshot versions. They have a resin coat over the eyelet where the loop meets the shank of the hook and protects the line from those sharp edges. Very forgiving hooks to use for that reason alone, but VMC hooks in general are just very good quality too, the Redline lineup are just on another level

[@jeffsmith9047]

Yes I agree with you, but the line needs to sit tight right at the bottom of the loop of the eye so that they don't slip over it. Will that drop of plastic allow it to? I've never used this hook so I don't know. I think extending the wire and even tapering it might not be a bad idea, as long as the edges of the taper are smooth. Again, I love this knot, but that seems to be the only weakness and seems to happen more with larger hooks. I've had it happen with a fresh rig on the first hook set. I've also fished all day with it and had no problems. I use 10lb red label.

[@jeffdicks]

@jeffsmith9047 yes, the resin drop on the VMC Redline hooks completely covers the eyelet where it meets the hook shank. I highly recommend trying them! www.rapala.ca/ca_en/rsds-redline-series-drop-shot

[@jeffsmith9047]

I'll definitely check them out. Thank you sir.

[@jeffsmith9047]

Got the hooks today. I tied the knot with 6lb test then with 10, the lines that run under the eye slip over it now because of the resin, It will stand straight out but now the hook can move up or down and stay either way. Without that dab of resin the knot will sit low on the eye like it needs to and the cross lines will sit snug against the bottom of the eye. My idea of extending the wire down the shank a bit more with a taper would be way better. The eye could be a little more round to keep the cross lines under it too. The lines under the eye are the one of the reasons this knot works so good. It's just the cut in the wire the ruins it.