You're Wrong About Fox Sports IndyCar

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IndyCar's Fox deal is objectively a positive for the sport. I talk about that as well as some concerns about the IndyCar schedule.
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[@Nismo331]

F1 tv costs 80 bucks a year for everything F1 past and present . I get practice testing races pre race post race and archives of past seasons . be nice if IndyCar had something like that

[@aavvv_]

+ full onboards, radio, junior series. All commercial free. It is the streaming benchmark.

[@brianmurray7980]

I'd pay that for the entire season. I'm not paying that for 1 month of FoxSports

[@calebschmucker4698]

F1TV is only that cheap in America though, most of the rest of the world pays far more. They are intentionally underbilling it to grow the sport here, I do not think that Indycar could make the same sacrifice.

[@undergroundbuzz]

They do, but not in the US since they sold those rights

[@yhelloh]

YES! A multiviewer service for indycar would be amazing id pay $200 a year easily if the service was 8.5/10 or higher...

[@timothywenzel5020]

Indycar just created much more value for sponsors and potential sponsors and got a big bag of money at the same time. From a commercial perspective they hit a home run in their TV package.

[@earlybirdearlybird1371]

Nobody sees what really happened! FOX has Indycar and does whatever it wants. A racing calendar from March to August! That's not good for the series, a break of half a year. After 6 months people ask Indycar what is it?

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

All IndyCar races on FOX, all Indy NXT races on FS1, IMS Productions will control FOX. So far, things do look good. But it’s all about execution! (I wasn’t expecting a lot of changes for 2025 in terms of scheduling, but it’s stupid that Thermal Club is a points race and Gateway is a Sunday race instead of Saturday night) EDIT: not a fan that the season is gonna last 5 months, just like 2014…

[@naparacingfan9275]

I hate replacing a Milwaukee race with a Thermal Dud 💀 points date. I'm willing to give FOX a chance but still don't feel good about it. At least all races and Indy 500 qualifying will be on big FOX though. I understand David wanted them to move from NBC due to preferential treatment for NASCAR and Indy 500 on USA threat but wouldn't matter now since TNT got the French Open. Also some fans hate Diffey for some reason.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

@@naparacingfan9275 a Milwaukee race wasn’t taken away. Plus I’m not a fan of doubleheaders anyway, so not a loss. But they shouldn’t even race at an exclusive track like Thermal Club again after the failure back in March.

[@naparacingfan9275]

@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Agree with doubleheaders but regardless not a fan of Thermal Dud points date. Wish they returned to Texas.

[@1CreativeRider]

No one controls FOX. Rupert Murdoch and his family control everything under their banner and they will find a way to skew and ruin this. They will lobby for more races, which will over-saturate the market, increase costs- and that will be passed on to the ticket buyers and consumers in general. Being the biggest does not mean you offer the Best. FOX destroyed NASCAR; made it a sh!t show. Gonna happen to IndyCar in their hands too. This is a terrible move in the wrong direction for the long term of IndyCar.

[@davidholmer6099]

My fingers tell me the 2025 season covers 6 months. Are you subtracting weeks without a race?

[@codileger4876]

Massive W for the sport. Now it’s time to build up. I wanna see Indycar commercials during the Daytona 500 and Super Bowl. One small Request - Roger this is your opportunity to bring back the Freedom 100. I’m willing to bet that if you do that Fox will give you network TV for Carb Day. You have the field now, a woman just won your most recent race so buzz is sky high. The drivers are getting called up to Indycar. DO IT

[@danielhenderson8316]

IndyNXT will have to get bigger before that happens, but at least with this TV plan there's a much better chance that it'll happen.

[@John-jl9de]

We miss Speed vision and Bob Varsha.

[@markvincent5992]

I hear Bob Varsha is back in broadcasting. I spent a lot of Sunday mornings with Bob and Hobbs doing F1 and he’s really good.

[@RC.41]

I thought he died 😭

[@joelbrooks3198]

​@@RC.41That was Bob Jenkins.

[@F1jones]

I'll never forget tuning into F1 in 1989 and hearing his voice instead of Economaki's cynical drone. Having a repeat of that experience after putting up with Diffey's non-stop screaming in between shilling would be such a welcome flashback.

[@sqweeps.03]

“Here come the lights! Turn up the volume!”

[@bt_11]

I would much rather a Spring Texas race than a thermal club points race

[@thebigguy5590]

You should sponsor a race at a track you think they should go to.

[@patrickracer43]

Wait, we're getting all the races on main Fox? Perhaps we've treated Fox unfairly Edit: Thermal should not have a date at all let alone a points date

[@brianmurray7980]

That's how Fox draws people in. They give the premium space the first year or 2 then they start to dial it back.

[@joelbrooks3198]

They better have tire changing at Thermal! 😂

[@joshuathecat-human1247]

Think on the bright side. We don't worry about the trash peacock steaming network anymore. Which is good for me now. And you can watch the race without even needing cable. So is this great anyway?

[@joshuathecat-human1247]

For indycar series I meant.

[@joshuathecat-human1247]

Indy next need Cable though because it will be on fs1 or fs2.

[@firelynx1108]

IMS Productions is our saving grace. The only thing I'm concerned about is how disappointing the booth is gonna be after being blessed with Diffey and Bestwick since like 2015. And not to mention, FOX has had some great ads for NASCAR. Maybe an IndyCar Super Bowl commercial???

[@robertpfrommer8871]

Diffey is uber annoying. A carnival barker

[@caprad]

I'm not aware of any reason Bestwick can't do this...he's currently the track announcer at IMS

[@nickman2345]

Adam Alexander I think will be fine, but definitely a downgrade compared to Diffey and Bestwick. Will say Fox definitely needs to bring Hinchcliffe on board, seeing that Adam has worked very well with drivers in the booth.

[@jonjones3958]

Blessed with Diffey???

[@firelynx1108]

@@jonjones3958 Dude his excitement and passion is unmatched

[@GPaDLA]

I just hope some of the NBC Indy hosts stay on like James Hinchcliffe

[@danfrancis8397]

DL grid walk? Get that resume in.

[@F1jones]

Put him in the booth.

[@derekwarr8567]

@@F1jones why not both? He can be the Martin Brundle of Indycar

[@F1jones]

@@derekwarr8567 Brundle is the color commentator, Kroft is the play by play. Play by play stays in the booth as host. I think David would be a great play by play as he's shown on his vintage voice overs.

[@sqweeps.03]

I can definitely see David do the Indycar grid walk that would be insane

[@thebigguy5590]

@@F1jones how about no.

[@BenRupert]

Somebody at Fox needs to call Alan Bestwick and see what he's doing next year

[@thebigguy5590]

Yep

[@bruces3613]

Bestwick can be rather monotonous, the Diffey mirror opposite.

[@Dexter037S4]

Bestwick's likely going to Amazon/Turner

[@andrewhayes88]

How I wish SPEED Channel would be a thing again. Almost everything on the single station at one point was great back in the 2000's. NASCAR, CART/ChampCar, ALMS, Le Mans, Rolex Grand Am Series, plus other content like The SPEED Report, Windtunnel etc. all promoting all different forms of racing. Having IndyCar on FOX next year has that possible hope of them being the "Motorsports Authority" once again. However, I know streaming services is the way of the future in Sports broadcasting. Its making me wonder what the situation is for IMSA's broadcasting rights are with NBC currently? It feels like NBC lost a lot of steam after ending NBCSN a few years ago.

[@samuelgt2811]

As of rn, IMSA is likely to renew their current contract with NBC although it's not officially been announced. John Doonan has hinted that they are already in negotiations

[@revrasheemstewart]

Once again, please find a way FOX network to get Alan Bestwick to be the lead man on the Indycar racing coverage. 😊

[@chevyman81]

I'd rather have Kevin Lee.

[@thebigguy5590]

Even when Indycar does something right, people still complain. Sorry Indycar couldn’t tailor everything to your specific needs. But, more money, better exposure for the series as well as NXT is a major victory for Penske.

[@chad4208]

And NASCAR putting races behind a paywall. I guess people will find a way to say thats a good thing too, right?

[@thunderstrikesc1261]

yes agreed, the ONLY thing im complaining about is that schedule

[@thebigguy5590]

@@thunderstrikesc1261 100% agree with you. Need a few more races early in the year and one needs to be an oval.

[@codyjarvis]

I think the complaints are mostly pre announcement based tbh. I will say fox’s coverage is concerning

[@thebigguy5590]

@@codyjarvis nope, I’ve seen a lot of complaints since the announcement came out. And how is Fox’s coverage concerning? They have aired a race yet!! Just because NASCAR is bad in people’s opinions, doesn’t mean Indycar will be. Can we at least wait for one freaking race to air before we sound the alarm?? As long as IMS productions is still involved, and the announce team is decent, it should be fine. Hopefully the announce team is Alexander, Bell and Hinch.

[@lylejames8828]

Peacock definitely wasn't optimum streaming, and streaming is not the path to growth necessarily ...but streaming is faaaaantastic for people who already know about the sport. No need to worry about setting a DVR for the right channel or hoping that the DVR follows long enough if there is a delay. Streaming also guarantees that the network or local affiliate can't trump coverage of the start or finish because of other properties or priorities on the channel. Hopefully they find a way to figure this out without sacrificing anything that's good about this deal. ...still wish Indycar would just invest in streaming on their own by way of a series-specific app like F1 has. To your point in the previous video, they already own the production company that does most of the work... and it's potentially some extra income for the series.

[@Bluerig-qf2xc]

Check out F1. They have a dedicated streaming platform and there's zero commercial breaks. Makes Indycar look like a joke

[@StinkyCheeseYodeler]

Streaming is the future. Cable and even broadcast tv is going the way of the dodo. I haven't watched network tv in ages.

[@Maverick33]

​@@StinkyCheeseYodeleruntil the streaming bubble eventually bursts. Cause the services will keep raising their rates. And eventually people will get tired of needing multiple services for all the content they desire. On top of needing an ISP which averages $100-$150 a month. NFL fans now need 7 different services for all the NFL coverage. Plus services for non NFL stuff like Disney+ and MAX. I don't know anyone who is willing to pay for 9 different streaming services and an ISP on top of it all. I mean piracy is already starting to make a comeback due to rate hikes and needing of multiple different services. I've even heard people say they're going back to physical media. Cable, satellite and antenna tv will always be around. In fact, according to federal law, all major networks such as ABC, CBS, FOX all have to transmit free over the air signals that can be received by an antenna.

[@kennethterry8196]

Both days of Indy 500 qualifying live on Tv 📺 that is the best news in a long time. I think depending on who they get for the commentary team this could be a very good thing. I’m excited so let’s see what happens.

[@chad4208]

except youll miss half the runs with commercials when its been commercial free. Bullshit

[@M_IkeLeBlanc]

BUT… is it all-day coverage? Also, will the practice days leading up to Qualifying be broadcast all day?

[@KaseyRacem]

Selfishly I want Hinch to move over idk what his contract With NBC is

[@davidholmer6099]

For the sport, I acknowledge it’s a great deal, but selfishly I’ll miss Peacock. I got it for Indycar, but I also watched IMSA and Supercross on the service and I can’t justify the cost to keep it for just sports cars and motorcycles.

[@psj060298]

Same here. I loved the coverage on Peacock (I get Peacock for free) I loved being able to watch the coverage any time I wanted.

[@calvinkatt662]

It’s great that all the races will be on network TV. That’s a win. The downside for me is that I enjoy watching road & street course qualifying. I’m ok paying $6 a month for Peacock, but I won’t be paying $40 to $50 a month for this new service. I will miss watching qualifying.

[@dack4dust856]

U can find a stream some where

[@vidwatcher3001]

Richmond would really fill out April. They just lost their 2nd cup date.

[@irvingboy1122]

The biggest surprise I have with next year’s schedule was Texas being left off again I thought Texas would make a comeback but apparently not

[@calvinkatt662]

If you combine the poor attendance in recent years with the fact that we have lost IndyCar supporter Eddie Gossage, I don't see the series returning to Texas any time soon.

[@PaperBanjo64]

​@@calvinkatt662sadly I think you're right, Eddie was an IndyCar guy who kept the series running at Texas all those years, now that he's gone I think IndyCar ain't coming back.

[@thebigguy5590]

Most of us knew it wasn’t a one year thing, it’s permanent.

[@Maverick33]

The poor attendance I think is what the last straw was. Ever since the Texas repave in 2017, there's been a LOT of complaints about TMS. So people chose to not go. I wouldn't be surprised if NASCAR ever decides to axe Texas like INDYCAR did.

[@JolietZett]

Hopefully Fox does a great job and it’s a turning point for the series. $30-40 a month will lose a lot of streamers hopefully that price is lower once the service is released. 3 weeks between race 1-2, and 3 weeks between race 2-3 is a big problem. Not sure with the delay in races at the start of the season is not being fixed.

[@evanzwickey5992]

I’m going to miss Leigh Diffey for the 500. He made that race so enjoyable to listen to

[@mikulitsi1819]

Sucks so much to lose him

[@steveravely6708]

"THIS IS MIND BLOWING" epic indy 500 last lap call by Leigh Diffey.

[@BSNFabricating]

The whole schedule being on network TV is a good thing. As for the schedule itself, I wish they could finally get away from that six-month off-season. The series wraps up in August, while every other major racing series goes on another two or three months. That's been one of the problems over the past I-don't-remember-how-many years. Yes, the NFL is the elephant in the room, but if your season is already over, the casual fan is gonna forget about you. Then you have to start from scratch again the next year. If there's anything positive about that, maybe Fox will promote the IndyCar series throughout the NFL season. But I REALLY wish the series would run until at least the middle of October.

[@Richard.Hybels]

They might be able to get more dates now.

[@earlybirdearlybird1371]

After the 6 months break all people ask "Indycar what´s this" ? Is this a racing series normaly held in the month of may ?

[@Indycarfanatic2024]

I think the solution is to try to front load the schedule with more spring dates. I don't see Indycar trying to expand into the fall with the NFL and I don't think they should. But more dates/races in February March and April would be a good solution and a chance to get more eyeballs on the sport.

[@ConorDaly22]

my favorite part is the title of this video 😅

[@shaneharrisnj3484]

The CART on Fox/SPEED intro was good, too... Even though they used the generic Fox Sports car, pitting in the Marlboro team pit box. Also, FSN (now Bally in most markets) aired 2 IRL events in 1999 (Pikes Peak and Phoenix) plus the dreaded Fox televised race at Dover.

[@joebaiza3598]

You mean the part where he tells his viewers they're wrong? That tactic is working great for Disney.

[@joebaiza3598]

Apologies Shane, I was referring to the post above you.

[@joebaiza3598]

Todd Harris... oh my.... that was quite a time. I must've blocked those memories out. I hope we get Jamie Little back.

[@noahcantdothisYtOFFICAL]

Conor since when did you have a yt channel

[@monica93304]

I have KZbin TV which gives me ESPN, Fox, FS1. That should fit the bill. Love it.

[@youafruitcup]

FS2 as well

[@sqweeps.03]

Me too

[@RyTrapp0]

Yup! KZbinTV > network specific streaming services. I've actually seen people complaining about how they "don't have the time to just sit in front of the TV for a live race" through the streaming television services - like, wake up grandpa, it's 2024, and I can watch Indy any time I want on YTTV lol.

[@thejman3489]

Yup. KZbin and Hulu brought back TV how it used to be. Every channel. No channels that you have to pay extra for. Imagine that.

[@neelyschoolroadband]

Oh yeah I sure want to pay 75 bucks a month to watch a second tier racing series instead of the 5 I currently pay Joke losers

[@hallo_welt_ag]

Remember: Fox has damn good pit reporters and they have a lot of potential for the booth. So if they dont mess up their camera work we're set for good broadcasts

[@14stockfan]

Lately they have had a lot of sloppy graphics/info work on the NASCAR side in addition to the abysmal camera work. They seem to be putting in the minimum amount of effort required to create a broadcast and they don't care how bad it looks, just that they put something out there to get the ad revenue. They don't even send the commentators to the track for some of the Xfinity and truck races.

[@Bitterman5868]

@@14stockfan That is because FOX had enough of NASCAR's shenanigans, and they grabbing indycar was literally a Message to the france family

[@rabidclean]

I agree that this is objectively better for the series. I'm just bummed about losing Peacock. Having all races, practice, and qualifying available on demand in one place was a godsend.

[@larrydelong9771]

I agree 100% if you don't have cable, just keep your fingers crossed if you're going to be able to get all the races. Any streaming service cost more than just adding peacock.

[@Bluerig-qf2xc]

F1 has a dedicated streaming platform. Much better than Indycar

[@johnmcarthur4376]

@@Bluerig-qf2xc you aren’t wrong in that aspect but that’s not a fair comparison. F1 races world wide and is a proven “money market” INDYCAR isn’t, just because cars resemble each other does not mean them a comparable platform

[@kevindearing4704]

I'm excited about the Fox news, but I'm extremely disappointed that Texas has not returned to the schedule.

[@billgoodwin8742]

Ending the season in August is crazy!

[@PaperBanjo64]

They did it in the past

[@thebigguy5590]

I’ll take that in exchange for a great TV deal. Would be dumb to take a worse TV deal just to add races nobody would watch.

[@earlybirdearlybird1371]

SICK

[@earlybirdearlybird1371]

@@PaperBanjo64 And this was crazy and sick too

[@PaperBanjo64]

@@earlybirdearlybird1371 I think it's too early myself, season is too short, NASCAR Is too long

[@jackcphelps]

all races on network tv is huge. when i heard about that my ears perked up

[@Brian-Hansen]

Agree, this is a good thing for IndyCar. Potential for viewership growth is quite immense now.

[@dcpsujag]

FOX just passed ESPN with this one. If Larson trys to do the double next year FoX will milk the heck out of this plus the They will have basically 10hrs of raceing coverage next Memorial Day weekend

[@M_IkeLeBlanc]

I thought they lost the Coke 600 to Prime.

[@shaneharrisnj3484]

​@M_IkeLeBlanc They did. Though ARCA and Craftsman Trucks are still on FS1. Schedule is pending.

[@rocking_with_the_d]

Really hope they lift the 500 blackout. Was super nice watching it live due to them lifting it because of the rain delay.

[@V10ViperSRT]

Going back to Thermal and Detroit seem like bigger problems to me

[@thebigguy5590]

Chevy wants the race in Detroit, deal with it. They spend more on the series than you do so their opinion matters more.

[@V10ViperSRT]

@@thebigguy5590 Ok uncle Joe

[@earlybirdearlybird1371]

The Thermal Joke again with points this time

[@tweek218]

The thermal “race” was probably the worst race I’ve seen in my life. I had second hand embarrassment from it. The Detroit track is terrible but at least it has action and some on track passing.

[@Indycarfanatic2024]

Detroit is going to be the same layout and lousy race. Idk what they need to do but that race will not be going away. Thermal doesn't make any sense to me at this point. It was such a disaster this year. Maybe the race will be better as a traditional points race and more strategy involved?

[@TeganCantEven]

That May 4th weekend could be Indy Raceway Park. I’d love to see that.

[@paulanthonynelson2733]

"No Miami F1 in the month of May" is why I like this Dave Land guy :) thanks Dave, cheers from Willy.P country. Carry on.

[@Indycarfanatic2024]

Fantastic work by Penske and the Indycar team. All races on network fox is a huge deal. NBC putting races on Peacock was a huge slap in the face.

[@youafruitcup]

I hope the broadcasting stays about the same and I have FS1 and FS2 so I can watch quali and practice for free instead of Peacock. KZbin TV is a cheap option for cable which most people have some sort of cable provider. I'm happy

[@anthony0358]

David, you’re going to have a difficult time convincing me that we have enough entries to go back to 2 weekends of qualifying at Indy. We need a minimum of 40 entries for the Indy500 in order to do that

[@PaperBanjo64]

We need a third engine supplier, a big TV like this could finally bring attention to IndyCar so we can have it. Then we could see 13 engines each supplier for 39 entries.

[@thebigguy5590]

Totally agree. It’s a terrible idea and would be redundant and not cost effective for the teams.

[@Dexter037S4]

@@PaperBanjo64 This is why we need convergence with Super Formula, because then Honda & Toyota can be in with barely any cost, as they have already developed engines.

[@scsmith4604]

I hope there is a better pre-race production show than having what they have now..

[@dougball4769]

I have three dedicated Indycar fan friends. All three were disappointed as they are cord-cutters who could get all their Indycar broadcasts for an inexpensive subscription to Peacock. As an F1 fan, I admit, the Peacock sub was way cheaper than F1 TV.

[@CardinalMB9]

As long as IMS Productions is controlling the cameras, my biggest concern now is the booth/reporter team

[@michaelwaldoch9299]

That intro is sick but can’t get over the fact they’re running Road America backwards

[@crazycars81]

What?

[@thebigguy5590]

That’s Long Beach, and it’s not backwards.

[@ozmaile7938]

20 races please

[@earlybirdearlybird1371]

20 yes and a season until end of October and not ending in August and 5 races in July.

[@ozmaile7938]

@@earlybirdearlybird1371 Unfortunately Fox has both collage and Pro Football .. So extending into/through September would be almost impossible to find times on Sat or Sun especially on Fox but even on FS1 FS2 is not even included in many cable packages ..They have to be streams only ..... Best to get more races in spring and summer

[@TheFredster32]

I think the six races that need to be brought back to the schedule are as follows; Texas Motor Speedway, Twin-Ring Motegi, Surfer’s Paradise, São Paulo whether it be Interlagos or the street circuit, Mexico City, and Montreal

[@Dexter037S4]

Motegi's oval is being demolished in a year or two (it's overflow parking, and costs too much to be repaired following the 2011 Tohoku earthquake), Surfers barely brought in money in 2008. Brazil is uhh, a bit spendy for the teams. Mexico City, I can see, Montreal is a no, never happening as long as Liberty can bribe city council.

[@kodybontreger2865]

I won't miss the "We'll be right back" NBC screen saver with elevator music, while watching a race REPLAY on Peacock. I could never get over the absurdity of taking a commercial break for an event that's already happened, and then not even showing a commercial.

[@Synthyus]

I’m just bummed that Indy car won’t be on peacock now because that’s the only way I get to watch it :/

[@wpbarchitect1800]

This is the bow on Roger Penske's IndyCar and American open wheel auto racing legacy. This is a watershed moment, will mean putting the ghosts of 'the split' to bed for good, and give the series the coverage and audience it deserves. And, when all the DTS-driven new racing fans in America sample IndyCar and realize, race-over-race, it's a far better, more competitive and compelling series, a new generation of fans will be created. And the money, both from the deal and sponsor exposure, will mean more for talent, development, everything. It's ALL to the good.

[@corvetteusa01]

The season ending with back to back oval races is a very positive thing as well I think

[@PaperBanjo64]

Agrees, finally more ovals!

[@larrydelong9771]

All well and good if you still have cable. But the move is generally everyone's getting away from cable. No streaming service has the cost-effectiveness that Peacock had. Still have to keep Peacock as long as IMSA is still on NBC. More and more money out of our pockets.

[@rs660alec]

Like you said, gotta thank NBC because it forced fox to make every one of the races nationally broadcast. Disney/ESPN has F1 and I’m sure FOX sees the potential. The only downside I see is there will probably be a lack of a streaming service.

[@joelbrooks3198]

KZbin TV

[@PaperBanjo64]

Fubo as well

[@stevethompson6371]

Hey did Fox Sports donate to your channel because you TOTALLY have a different view from yesterday!!!!

[@dc5racer87]

So now I have to stay subscribed to Peacock for just IMSA during the season? We know how much cable/network coverage they get...

[@zerodos_02]

Feels like good news, feels too good to be true as well. In the short run, if IndyCar uses this for good growth, I think they'll be okay. If it doesn't hit off the bat, I worry about races getting dropped a couple of years in. Look forward to seeing what this looks like. As long as IMS Productions is involved, it won't be an utter shitshow as far as quality goes.

[@quadsman11]

David, I have LONG dreamt of having this kind of broadcast coverage consistency ! You are 100% CORRECT this will without help us with securing corporate sponsorship !!! This is 100% all about consistency in the INDYCAR products ! No struggle to locate the INDYCAR product ! It is without question the BIGGEST INDYCAR fan base building news EVER ! If possible David, get back to me ! Would absolutely love to be able talk to you about this move ! Ray Parsons Parsons Motorsports Marketing

[@racefreakmel]

Who still has cable?

[@neelyschoolroadband]

No one. Won’t be watching an IndyCar race again after this year in all likelihood, which sucks. The 2021 season re ignited my passion for motor sports.

[@codymoe4986]

@@neelyschoolroadband The 2021 IndyCar season, reignited your passion for motorsports? Meanwhile, here's a direct quote from you, up above, in a separate thread... "Oh yeah I sure want to pay 75 bucks a month to watch a second tier racing series instead of the 5 I currently pay...joke losers" LOL! So which one is it? Perhaps you should retire back under your bridge and figure out what you truly believe...

[@Jalreal]

My parents lol

[@jamesriley9800]

They need to go to Cota, Phoenix, or even a race in Mexico before may. They could try NOLA agian too Gateway should be a night race,

[@aavvv_]

We get Thermal 🤷‍♂️

[@MrPens87]

I wanna be positive about this but as someone who watches races on peacock and YT, I hope Fox allows the broadcasts to be shown or uploaded on KZbin.

[@davec5067]

David I watched your video while I was laying in my hospital bed, tell me is it me you have very valid points bout fox but tell me doe this make sense. Cancel race hub when now they will have very national series, indy car, nascar, and yes NHRA if race hub was fizzleingbas we all know it was why not rework it not like they had not done it in the past as you stated. Break the show up covering all of the series,the schedules would seem to work do the normal race day shows, and make the new show maybe a Friday and Monday show if we eliminate all the crap and sorry guys the show had been full of games and race track maps, devote 20 minutes to esp series and when a series is not running devote more time to the other two. But no more garbage .bring Bestwick back, bring Jr. To the nascar part of the show with Mike joy and kudos to your support I’ve met him at Barrett jack a gentlemen , bestwick host the whole show with Jr,for nascar,hitch or Townsend bell or even Tony k to do the Indy aspect and now the hard one NHRA keep Brian and Tony along with Bruno new show covers all series direct point no gimmicks just facts and opiiin. Please let me know what your thoughts are I do agree with your point of view

[@samuelgt2811]

With Indycar heading to FOX, it does ponder what's going to happen with NBC going into the future. They'll have spare budget to use on their other prospects. One that comes to mind is IMSA because while not having been announced yet, it's likely NBC will renew their contract with IMSA after this season ends. If they renew, NBC could put more races on network TV instead of cable. Also, will there be more promotion of the races as there hardly is any promotion for IMSA races ATM. However, this does bring a big question: Is NBC going to turn their IMSA coverage into hyping up the NASCAR coverage when the NBC portion of the cup series starts in August next year? Plus, what's going to happen with the current on air talent as most of the staff (Pit reporters and commentators) aren't experts in sports car racing? Yes, NBC streams the races on peacock and uses imsa radio for some of the support series, but they geoblock all of the Pilot Challenge and WeatherTech races imsa live streams on their KZbin channel. Plus, they don't show practice and only show qualifying outside of the races. Big questions need to be addressed should NBC renew their IMSA TV deal

[@matthewsallman1700]

I don't bother with NBC or USA for IMSA. I don't want to worry about where does the coverage go next hour. I just watch the whole thing on Peacock. I like Peacock, I have watched IndyCar, IMSA, and Tour de France on it.

[@jeffreyolenick4132]

Move the start of the season up to begin the weekend after Daytona. Race every other weekend leading up to Indy, including at least 1 oval in that part of the schedule. Would get us close to 20 races and fill out the season pretty well.

[@MGregoir]

The series needs to maximize eyeballs more than compete. The easiest fans to win over or win back are already race fans. With 27 weekends between Daytona 500 and NFL, ideally you have 22 you can: - avoid the North/South American F1 weekends, and stop putting Long Beach against the Masters which is more viewed than any race - avoid the domestic endurance races and Le Mans which drops Sebring and Le Mans weekend (same weekend as Canadian GP) - schedule ovals any weekend NASCAR is on a road course - race Sundays any weekend NASCAR races a Saturday night - bring back the Michigan 500

[@owenoseroff]

My main worry aside from the schedule, is not having an affordable streaming service for the younger as well as newer fans

[@thebigguy5590]

Because owning a $20 TV antenna is difficult.

[@owenoseroff]

@@thebigguy5590 not everyone has good signals especially if you live in the middle of nowhere. Also that only gets you the races, getting new young fans to watch qualifying and practice are goals as well.

[@neelyschoolroadband]

@@thebigguy5590I feel like your name and picture are meant to be sarcastic, but you sure act like joe Biden the way you’re completely okay with the middle class getting fucked over again and again

[@stephenholloway6893]

At leasr all of races will be on Fox hopefully they'll do better then NASCAR. Yes they'll still have Cup Trucks and ARCA next year as well but most would be on FS1.

[@DaveCompton5150]

Now if they could just promote other races besides the 500. Only saw a few 30 second commercials for Detroit during the 500

[@nicholasschau2388]

I'd be curious to see how the beginning of the schedule interacts with the FOX portion of the NASCAR schedule. I wouldn't be surprised if that was a cause of all the big gaps

[@naparacingfan9275]

All races and Saturday and Sunday Indy 500 qualifying on big FOX great!! Thermal Dud points race 💀? Not really. Having 1 less race (particularly at an oval) definitely sucks.

[@youafruitcup]

St.Pete, back to back weeks in Texas at the oval and COTA, back to back in Cali with Thermal and Long Beach, Barber, travel over seas and race at Silverstone, comeback and spend the rest of May at Indy. That's how the season should've started. 7 races before we even get to Indy would've been exciting.

[@DesertFox32k]

I think in a couple years, i could see Indycar back at a 20-24 race schedule. Add Homestead, Arizona, Texas, Richmond, Chicagoland. 5 tracks added, and you got a very nice 22 race schedule, that solves the problems of the early schedule

[@lookatthatggman]

On the topic of the month of May, realistically in the modern day I don't think it's plausible to have two whole weeks of time trials unfortunately. Indy GP exists as a good excuse to stay at the track for most of the month. But if we're doing the on track idea for the entire month, what about instead of moving the Indy GP up to Week 1, how about they race at Lucas Oil? Stays close to the track, and sorta makes it where you have a build up to the race, where you got a short track, a road course, then the big superspeedway, while keeping it all in Speedway, Indiana. That seems like a modern solution to justify the entire month of May being at Indy to me.

[@deepinthewoods8078]

Pretty nice schedule, but the 6 month off-season is wayy too long. For the rest i'm happy that all my favorite tracks are coming back (Barber, Road America, Mid-Ohio...), and there are only 2 crappy tracks (Detroit and Thermal). And the right amount of ovals for me, so i'm not complaining ...

[@RealKartRacer]

It's great! Although indy lights had races on espn2 for a while, and it didn't exactly attract a lot of sponsorship so I don't know about that

[@durdre]

🤞 Indycar is on Foxtel / Kayo in Australia in 2025 🏁🏎️ Maybe Indycar could do some overseas races in the other 6 months that are on at times when the NFL is not

[@danielhenderson8316]

They would need someone to pay for the trip, but I'd be fine with several races south of the equator along with a Mexico race to pad out the year in January. Those races could be on FS1 or FS2 with both pro and college football winding down.

[@TitleistGolf13]

I think it's a GREAT thing! It's huge for IndyCar. Will I miss the NBC crew yes BUT it's huge! Let's just hope they don't put it behind a paid wall like NBC did with peacock.

[@tonyd6852]

Toughest issue for me is a personal problem. It's that we are a cable cutting family and I only spend 5.99/mo for Peacock. If I'm not able to watch the races live, I will need to subscribe to cable/Hulu Live/KZbinTV in order to set a DVR. I won't be abandoning my favorite series, it's just going to be more costly for me.

[@tom_hoots]

I got rid of cable TV because there was almost NOTHING on that I cared to watch. I tried KZbin TV, and gosh golly -- it's the same problem. Dozens or hundreds of channels, and there might be one episode per week of anything that's worth watching. NOT WORTH THAT KIND OF MONEY. Now I'll have to go back to that just to get IndyCar? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I'll just watch the highlight videos on KZbin after each race.

[@anthony0358]

I forgot Fox did some Champ Car races in the early 2000s. At least all the races will be on Fox. The early 2000s NASCAR was really good on Fox . Let’s hope it all works out . I get FS2 on my cable package. Am I correct the IndyLights were on NBCSN back in the day ?

[@TMVideoProductions]

This is great for Indycar, but my concern is that after 2025 FOX may try to push more and more races onto FS1 or maybe even FS2. I don't have cable/satellite and I'm never buying it again. I'm also not going to pay $50+ a month to watch Indycar on a paywalled streaming service. I hope that one day (if the TV deal becomes less favorable) Indycar would consider moving away from traditional TV networks and possibly stream the races live. Maybe for free with Ads and have a paywalled Ad-free service. Streaming races for free would not only bring in a lot more viewership, but also a lot more younger viewers. Increased viewership and a younger demographic would be great for helping the teams secure sponsors.

[@janeordway4841]

I totally agree, trying to use Peacock is frustrating to say the least.

[@michaeljacobs2954]

As a fan for over 50 years, I'm cautiously optimistic about the TV deal. Yes, there are gaps in the schedule and I hope in 2026 they can fix it with more racing. It would be cool to bring Phoenix back. That was a tradition before Indy for years. If they can build the audience next year, maybe new markets will emerge.

[@evandrochaves9596]

As long as the brazillian broadcast doesn't change, I'm really happy for that

[@MendocinoRefuseTrucks]

IndyCar needs a longer season and should have its season just as long as F1 and if they were smart they race on the weekends that F1 is off (with the exception of Indy 500/Memorial Day weekend). In my opinion you’d get some F1 viewers on the weekends you don’t get to watch an open wheel race. On a side note, would love to see IndyCar run more ovals but wouldn’t mind them running the Charlotte Roval

[@joelbrooks3198]

At least go through early October.

[@Bitterman5868]

you can't have a long season as long as NFL dominates everything from August and Onwards, and drains the life of everything like Soccer

[@MendocinoRefuseTrucks]

@@Bitterman5868 you have a longer season by having more races within the actual season time frame. There’s only 1 race in April, missed opportunity there. IndyCar also needs to promote more outside the Indy 500, that’s why NASCAR doesn’t have a huge issue with there season mixing with the NFL a little. I have a hard time finding commercials for IndyCar when casually watching anything, but even during the Super Bowl you’ll see a Daytona 500 commercial on at least three times, and in the early part of football season you’ll see commercials about the playoffs and championship for NASCAR. It all goes hand in hand

[@joerae]

glad that all of the races are on network TV next season, but why do I have this sneaking suspicion that we'll see Danica Patrick in the booth for FOX? also a little surprised at the Gateway date - not so much that it's the same weekend as Le Mans, but the first weekend of June was the NASCAR weekend at Gateway this year. I doubt the track could or want to hold major events like that on consecutive weekends, so I'm wondering is NASCAR is moving the Gateway race on the calendar, not racing at Gateway next season, or does it becomes a NASCAR/IndyCar doubleheader weekend?

[@geezer4962]

Best news ever, all Indy car races on the network.

[@jimhartmann4161]

David I understand better the importance of this new tv deal. However, there are fans who live in areas that are not served by broadcast tv networks. The only way that tv is available in my area is either cable, satellite dish, or internet streaming. Antennas are not an option in my area unless you have a tower with a monster antenna on it. If fox can offer there coverage on an affordable platform similar to peacock I would consider this good.

[@waylonwhite694]

David tell them we want a stand alone video game now! Lol

[@Dexter037S4]

Still too niche for that.

[@MrAndyNich]

SRX had a game ( it sucked ) but Indycar should lol. SRX wasn't huge at all.

[@sams-pg7hj]

I do wonder how much input fox has on the dates and such for 2025 when we are only 5 months from 2025 at this point, I think the main thing they control for this schedule is the start times for tv windows. I think 2026 is rumored to have some changes and I think that includes a new street race in Denver, DFW, or SLC. I dont think they will ever race in September and I dont think they should go up against the nfl. I wouldn't mind the long winter break if the season didnt have tons of breaks at the beginning before the 500. Thats where they can add races, but that also makes it difficult because early in the year, track locations and options are severely limited

[@shawnbarczak1766]

Didn't ABC have full coverage of qualifying??? I may be mistaken....but I thought qualifying on ABC was full coverage...despite everything glad to see the Milwaukee Mile is still on the schedule.

[@walkerhound3934]

Another thing FOX has the advantage of is for future scheduling, they can ask for different types of tracks to be on the schedule. As far as scheduling goes, why not redo Lucas Oil Raceway to get the track up to indycar specs and run a race to compete against F1. You stay in Indy and challenge F1 at the same time

[@Trainlover1995]

IndyCar can't really fill the gaps on their schedule because NASCAR is gatekeeping the major ovals from them out of pure spite for their continued existence. NASCAR views IndyCar as their greatest competitor, and wants them to fail so all of the sponsors will come to NASCAR like they did in the 90s and 2000s.

[@calvinkatt662]

I assume Barber is the first weekend in May because FOX has a Cup race the last weekend in April. It's too bad it worked out that way. The west coast races at Laguna Seca and Portland being two weeks apart is odd. Again I assume FOX has a TV conflict the first weekend in August.

[@JeremiahKF]

As a european fan, i hate the short season and actually like this new deal, because maybe Eurosport can get one too! The short season is kind of a bummer, seeing that most series here run until early-mid october like the DTM, but no huge gaps which is good! (SBK has a 2 month gap this year, imagine that) Gateway during the day is great, so i'll be watching it live.

[@Themanngaming]

Fox we beg you to not put Danica Patrick with in 500 yards of the broadcast booth or any part of the coverage

[@GarrettOHara]

At least she’s an IndyCar person.

[@Phuc_Yhou]

Please take her so we don't have her on F1, she knows nothing.

[@103racingnetwork]

@@Phuc_Yhouno please stay in f1 we don’t want her

[@Themanngaming]

@@103racingnetwork I’m an F1 fan we don’t want her either, I just want to spare die hard Indy fans too

[@103racingnetwork]

@@Themanngaming we give her to the formula e fans

[@MKDorianGray]

I've enjoyed Peacock but we need more eyes on Indycar and I agree this is overall a positive thing. I hope. Just really want some good commentators. Would love to still have Leigh, Hinch, Towns and bring back PT.

[@cvulp5993]

Huge deal as long as IMS productions calls the shots when it comes to presentation. Next step is to add 2-3 more races including one in the Northeast. Thermal might race better this time since the race format wont be so reliant on tire saving fingers crossed

[@d.d.7287]

I think you nailed it on the streaming point. Its been nice being able to get practices, qualifying and races all in one place every week. But getting every race on Fox is huge

[@R2Y2V2]

While I'm happy that all the races are on main Fox, and lights are on FS1, Fox is the only streaming service I don't have, but I at least have them on cable.

[@marricktryathia3464]

I live about 2 hours from where the TV Antennas are located. Even with a 50ft tower. The signal is terrible. Its a good suggestion for people who live in less rural areas. I am an IndyCar fan. I never fell in love with NASCAR the way I love IndyCar. And for many years now I only watch the Daytona 500 and the Coca-Cola 600. I don't watch much TV. I loved that Peacock was very affordable and allowed me to watch races after work on Sundays. I know there are going to be alternatives. But I doubt they will allow me to watch races after the fact. And I know the options are going to cost me 4-10 times what I pay now to watch IndyCar. Then add in that all the street races are extremely boring and there are hardly any ovals left on the schedule. I might step away and just watch the Indy500 and forget about the rest of the season. I know the world is driven by money. But I see this deal hurting IndyCar in the long run. The NASCAR vibe is going to leak into IndyCar more than it already has. And the cost will drive most of us who just wanted to watch a few races without it being a passion to watch racing due to the massive increase in cost.

[@XxmetalHeadxX88]

NASCAR needs to take some notes here.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

The thing is that FOX (and even NBC) controls NASCAR. But you’re not wrong either

[@JackDaniels-m5d]

Nascar is not controlling the broadcast

[@GrandpaShark]

@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT Not really. For the last 7 years, FOX & NBC had 19 races each. For the next 7 years, they get 14.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

@@GrandpaShark that’s not what I meant

[@94nolo]

Indycar exposure during Nascar broadcasts will be great for Indycar. Let's hope the money works for Indycar itself. Hopefully Fox broadcasting won't replicate it's Nascar failures.