You're WRONG about the BLACKMAGIC PYXIS.

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Phil Rodrigues

Phil Rodrigues

Күн бұрын

🎥 After so many videos of people talking about the Pyxis, I wanted to share my own thoughts as a user of blackmagic who hasn't owned their cameras since the pocket 4k.
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🚨 Do you agree? Disagree? I want to hear your thoughts about the Pyxis down in the comments below. ⬇️
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00:00 - Intro
00:49 - The Fixed Side Screen
02:07 - The New Battery Solution
03:00 - Lack of internal NDs (I think its coming later!)
04:36 - HDMI Workaround
05:13 - Potential ProRes solution!
05:46 - Will I be buying one?
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@MichaelHalsell
@MichaelHalsell Ай бұрын
BMC was smart to keep the original 6K Pro for those that don't approve of the PYXIS. Also, illustrates why catering to the lower end of the market is a challenge.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Agreed. I just bought a 6k pro too, $1100! Great price!
@MichaelHalsell
@MichaelHalsell Ай бұрын
@@philrodfilms Including yourself, there will be many productions that will demonstrate how capable this camera will be in the hands of a well motivated professional.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
@@MichaelHalsell thank you!
@srandall31
@srandall31 Ай бұрын
I think for most buyers of this camera, they would have gladly paid more for the internal NDs. Just my opinion. Also, a lot of people wanted this cube form factor for better balance in flying on a gimbal. For that purpose, an articulating screen (usable) would have been very useful. That screen is totally usable in a run and gun situation. It's 1500 nits and just as good as the 6K Pro screen. It's a great deal camera, but also a lost opportunity in something that could have been easily done and without increasing bulk of the camera. Just look at what the engineer did for the tilt screen mod of the BMPCC 4K. No additional bulk, and relatively inexpensive mod.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
I think they would have paid more for internal NDs which is why there will probably be a pro version of this so those that wanted more features get it but those that wanted budget option get it too.
@allen_bernardo_jr
@allen_bernardo_jr Ай бұрын
is the usb type c port (for the viewfinder) able to be used for other external monitors? Have they said if it is or not yet, I think I saw a video where they hinted that they might release more accessories for that port but it'd be nice if you could just use any usb type c to HDMI cable to a monitor or something
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Not sure if it’s confirmed, but as I said in the video I think there’s a possibility usb c to hdmi adapters could work.
@saint_odonnell
@saint_odonnell Ай бұрын
I think you’re right on with every single point. Thanks for sharing such sensible thoughts on the topic. Also, that electronic nd situation you mentioned is a really smart observation 👌🏼
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Thank you ! Very excited for Panasonic’s future camera.
@bunnyhallow
@bunnyhallow Ай бұрын
The only thing I hate about the PYXIS is that the mount is not interchangeable! It looks interchangeable, teasing us with those four screws surrounding the mount but BM said it's not so if you choose an EF mount you are stuck with that mount.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
I hear you. Would be cool to go back and forth.
@Sethmotley
@Sethmotley Ай бұрын
Teasing us is a correct statement 😂 because ZCam has the same 4 screws and the mount are interchangeable. I went with the L mount and I’ll use my PL adapter.
@MoeGunz
@MoeGunz 22 күн бұрын
That’s the one legit flaw I see as well. The other ones people see talking about aren’t major. I’m going with PL
@shawnmiller8169
@shawnmiller8169 Ай бұрын
I've been shooting on BMD cameras since the OG cinema cameras days, but I've always liked and been curious about the Z-Cam offerings. Does Resolve support ZRAW yet? That's what's kept me from seriously considering the E2-F6 or E2-F8. I like the form factor and the images I've seen from coming from those cameras, but if I can't use the files in Davinici, I'll have to wait until that's no longer an issue.
@Sethmotley
@Sethmotley Ай бұрын
All of the complaints are coming from non filmmakers and people who shoot birthday parties in the backyard. At this price point this is a gift to true cinematographers from BMD.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Seth tell me how you really feel haha 😂
@Sethmotley
@Sethmotley Ай бұрын
@@philrodfilms I’m just saying 😂
@SoulJazzDance
@SoulJazzDance 2 күн бұрын
Amen !
@michaelscott1778
@michaelscott1778 Ай бұрын
The oils from my face are going onto the monitor as I put my eye in the viewfinder
@andynonimuss6298
@andynonimuss6298 Ай бұрын
The Pyxis wasn't made for run-n-gun users. If people want a flip-out screen and HDMI, they should buy a handycam. Even if the 4" screen flipped-out, I wouldn't use it. I'll be using the EVF and the 7" external. There's no need for built-in NDs, as most cinematographers already have screw-on NDs or a Matte Box with NDs. NiSi ATHENA PRIMEs even have a drop-in ND blade option.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
I agree! And I love the NISI Athenas. I’m doing a video on them soon.
@moomoochacoo
@moomoochacoo Ай бұрын
This. This camera is built for DPs with low budget, not for videographers.
@ItsMitch92
@ItsMitch92 Ай бұрын
@@moomoochacoo yes, but no. If you have to add all sorts of monitors, viewfinders (it's not included on b&h's page), gadjets, adapter, workarounds, potential pro res solutions. It stops being budjet and starts being a hassle when you look at an FX 6 that's just 2K more and has everything you need to shoot right out of the box (black magic don't even include a battery) and amazing autofocus. Looking from the perspective of a low budget DP, they usually rent cameras, it would be easier to rent an FX6. And IF I were to want to buy a 6K camera the Pocket Pro is more appeling froma price perspective since I would have to buy accessories for both at least I'm not paying a premium for a metal build with no NDs and I could use my matbox for style filters.
@maddogtank8425
@maddogtank8425 Ай бұрын
okay I'm sorry but I agree with all of this except for the internal NDS as somebody who frequently works with them I would 100% rather have internal NDS then the screw on or drop in options for multiple reasons number one you don't have to worry about breaking them in transit number two you don't have to worry about having them you can't forget them number three you don't have to deal with handling your NDS possibly putting smudges on them or having anything of that nature number for when on a gimbal you don't have to worry about rebalancing the gimbal because you had to add a mat box with an ND number five you don't have to worry about Schilling an extra at least $1,000 on 4 X 5 n D's to be able to cover yourself properly if this is your first cinema camera and while you're right some lenses have drop in and these that you behind the actual lens not all in fact a lot of them don't and even the ones that do sacrifice the ability to be PL Mount lenses when you do so if you're a cinematographer who already has a bunch of other lenses this would actually force you to go out and buy entirely new lenses if you want to use your already pl standard lens kit on it and for these reasons in about 15 others including things like color cast and a bunch of other b******* I am going to say that the lack of internal NDS kills this camera for me and it's not cheap enough for me not to want to spend at least another $1,000 on something more and the reason for it is time at the end of the day all of this that you have to worry about is not only financial but it is a time thing internal NDS take about 2 seconds to change while external ones take about 30 that doesn't seem like a lot of time but over a day of shooting going through an indifferent environments if you are really pushing the fact that this is for a cinematographer but a low budget one that usually means you're not working with ACS that usually means you're doing it all by yourself at least in terms of the camera and this is all slowing you down and it's making the entire process not only for yourself but for the client take a lot longer for example when I'm doing stuff if I want to go from an ND 64 to an ND 256 I can do that in 2 seconds without having to look for anything however if you are trying to do it externally I then have to go to my cart I have to look in my car I have to look in the section where my NDS are I have to look through my ND filters find 256 then I have to take 256 carefully remove it from the bag carefully put it in the matlbox secure it and then we're ready to go that's all taken 30 seconds to a minute depending on how far my production cart is away from me God forbid one day I forget one of my NDS which we're human it happens then I'm going to be f*** s*** out of luck not an issue with internal NDS and yes if I was working with a team external NDS wouldn't be as much of a problem but this camera is priced and meant for much smaller scale production so usually one or two person teams and if we're talking about one or two person teams even having a person there to help you out and to get all your NDS and stuff sorted it'll still take 30 or 15 seconds vs 2
@maddogtank8425
@maddogtank8425 Ай бұрын
oh and just some other things while the camera is definitely more customizable than its pocket counterpart I would rather have the pocket for half the price and get two of them then have one of these pictures because while I can't rig the pocket out as much I can rig two of them out into distinctly different ways for the cost of one Pixis camera and with that I will allow myself to have to put up with the hassle of external NDS but not for the price that they're charging
@moomoochacoo
@moomoochacoo Ай бұрын
I literally just bought a BPU to V-mount adapter. People complaining about it not being native Vmount are nuts.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Smart purchase!
@itsoverat6000
@itsoverat6000 Ай бұрын
I agree with you, Sir!
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@capturedbytymel
@capturedbytymel Ай бұрын
The problem with it is that it will be hard for them to gain market share. Think about it. If I have an FX6, why would I give up my internal NDs? If I have a Canon C70, why give up NDs, and IBIS. Very few will jump over from other markets. But we shall see.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Remember that those cameras are also more money. So in the 2500-3k range, I don’t think another camera has what this does for the price.
@antoniopezoulas6243
@antoniopezoulas6243 Ай бұрын
Isn’t it essentially the 6k pro censor repackaged? That’s the only thing I can’t get over. The rest of the “issues” are not new to Blackmagic users and I’m sure we’ve all had to purchase support in our arsenal that will fix them.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
The 6k pro isn’t full frame. This is the same sensor as the 6k cinema camera which was a full frame sensor.
@jlindsay0709
@jlindsay0709 Ай бұрын
There are some things I agree with and some I don’t. First off the ND filters. While it’s nice to have built in ones I have never liked built in NDs. You are usually stuck with whatever stops the manufacturer decides. Built in NDs are a convenience feature not a necessity. Useful for documentary run and gun filmmakers. With that said the 6K pro has them and that is 500 dollars cheaper. Not having ProRes is a shame really. Nothing wrong with BRAW but ProRes never fails you when you need to edit with it. The tilt out screen is also a slight shame. Other cameras in a similar price range have it. Including its sibling with the 6K Cinema which again is like $500 cheaper. Also being on the side is also an issue. The Komodo you can at least almost use it like a medium format camera and hold it at your waist and still frame shots. This you have to stand to the side of the camera to operate it. Which is such an odd choice. Having used Blackmagic since the BMCC. They have a weird way of design and making weird decisions then releasing a new camera a year later that addresses the issues.
@acaiv1797
@acaiv1797 Ай бұрын
I think from a function standpoint it is good but for gear heads it’s not so good. The technology in the camera makes it so so.
@demonhogo
@demonhogo Ай бұрын
i think it looks as exciting as a dentist drill
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
You win “most unique comment”
@demonhogo
@demonhogo Ай бұрын
@@philrodfilms thanks, I try 💁🏻‍♂️
@lesterlauritzen
@lesterlauritzen Ай бұрын
I think the design is too bloated because of the screen. It's way too big for having essentially the guts of a BMPCC 6k. They should have ditched the inbuild screen to make it way smaller and shipped it with a stripped down Video Assist that could navigate the menus when connected. With all the box camera options out there now that are much more compact, I'm not sure the slight color science and codec advantage is enough to overlook the poor ergonomics. If I were doing gimbal work, I would take a Panasonic Lumix BS1H and a video assist any day over the Pyxis, and I would still get my Blackmagic Raw. And that camera has been out for several years now. Maybe for shoulder rigging the pyxis would be good, but I feel like they really missed the ball on this one. They're new Cine 12K however, now that is indeed ground breaking and incredible.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
The BS1H is awesome. Been looking for one used. It’s just difficult to operate when shooting external braw cause once you do you can’t navigate the menu.
@lesterlauritzen
@lesterlauritzen Ай бұрын
@@philrodfilms Which is where Blackmagic could have come in an hit it out of the park. If you could basically have the BS1H body but with an external monitor that had native camera controls but still records internally that would be incredible. Red has been kind of been doing this for a long time. Their proprietary connector isn't ideal though. The pyxis already has the USB -C meant for monitoring. They could have made a USB - C monitor for camera controls and made the whole camera way smaller.
@lesterlauritzen
@lesterlauritzen Ай бұрын
And if you don't want the USB-C monitor connected, there should be enough physical buttons to make basic important changes without it. Or of course there's always the Bluetooth option.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
@@lesterlauritzen as I said in my video, I’d love to see Panasonic take a crack at a BS1H mark ii. Could do stuff Blackmagic failed to!
@I5H78
@I5H78 Ай бұрын
I suspect the pixys is big due to the cooling, not because bmd wanted a big screen.
@RohitNaik
@RohitNaik Ай бұрын
BLACKMAGIC ALREADY COOKING PYXIS G2
@zouyicen
@zouyicen Ай бұрын
I just realized that Pyxis might be the best camera for vertical shooting so far!!
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Good point. With the side screen it would be perfect for monitoring it!
@ichigen511
@ichigen511 Ай бұрын
Great video. The main problem with how people review things is that the average person reviews things as if EVERYTHING EVER MADE was MADE FOR THEM. This is simply a false reality. The fact of the matter is that EVERYTHING EVER MADE HAS AN AUDIENCE. are you the target audience? that's a question everyone SHOULD make but they ALMOST NEVER MAKE. Ugh it's hard being so godamn brilliant. Sucks it's so hard to find people like me. I think I found one,looking forward to more videos. Cheers!
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Hey! I appreciate the kind words! Looking forward to chatting with you on future uploads.
@angryrabbitproductions1690
@angryrabbitproductions1690 Ай бұрын
This might be a great camera… for some. However, regarding the side monitor. It useless for monitoring because of its fixed position. So a low power/resolution LCD or OLed would have been fine. Also, the screen is mounted on the wrong side for a first AC. Making the side monitor pointless. Internal NDs might be excusable on the L-mount… but on the EF? I don’t think so. I’m not so worried about the lack of ProRes, but I would like to see DaVinci Resolve finally support ProRes raw. This camera is not one I’m interested in. I don’t see any magic in the color science. The sensor is old… at least 6 years old. The rolling shutter is… well, just plain bad. I had hoped that the first BMD box camera would be a bit more than a new lazily hurried together rehousing. I won’t buy it. But some will… and a few of them will do great work with it. If this camera inspires you to go out and shoot, that’s enough to justify the purchase IMO. Happy shooting.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@waveland
@waveland Ай бұрын
This camera is not built with an AC in mind. It’s primarily a solo operator camera which leans into shoulder work, though I don’t personally see the side screen as an issue except when rigged low to the ground, in which case I will connect my phone via Bluetooth to adjust settings. It’s not for monitoring. No big deal. I have plenty of monitors kicking around and so will most of the people who buy this camera. The ND thing is a lack of lateral space issues on a camera this small on the mount end. You have to get the NDs out of the way (even eNDs) and there’s literally no place to move them. But keep in mind that more and more L-mount lenses (NiSi Athenas for one) have drop in filter options. With those lenses, internal NDs are a moot point. The whole design will make more sense when BM have a chance to roll out a top monitor which runs off the USB-C port (no extra battery weight up high on the camera!). I image we will see some third-party options very soon. The monitors are already out there, they just need to be housed for camera mounting.
@MauricioCimino
@MauricioCimino Ай бұрын
The camera is tiny. And that screen isn’t for monitoring, it’s for adjusting any setting you need on an amazing UI. You all can’t seriously think they meant for someone to operate handheld and run and gun with that screen, right?
@Calvindaydop
@Calvindaydop Ай бұрын
@@waveland box camera is possibly one of the worst designs for solo operating and terrible design for proper shoulder work, see RED bodies....
@waveland
@waveland Ай бұрын
@@Calvindaydop ​​⁠But this isn’t a traditional box design. All the controls sit right there on the side. Much of the time it will be easier to control than an Ursa because the menu screen is larger and it’s never folded into the body. And it will be much easier to deal with than the Pockets I shoulder mount sometimes.
@2424rocket
@2424rocket Ай бұрын
And you didn’t even mention any of the most important things. Lousy rolling, shutter, lousy in low light, and poor dynamic range. Just a wonderful camera! Beautiful body but inside it’s pure crap. The ergonomics is of no importance compared to image quality and if it’s lousy in low light, who cares about the other shit.
@philrodfilms
@philrodfilms Ай бұрын
Those complaints exist with the 6k full frame too. I don’t think this camera has poor dynamic range at all, look up cined chat and you’ll see how well it does.
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