You Should 100% Craft This But PLEASE STOP COPING

[@F0X0K0]

6:23 it’s actually really interesting, that break of the ankles is purely visual. If your crosshairs is still on the target, no matter how hard you break your ankles you will still shoot where you aiming before

[@Zurrke]

What's more interesting is this is how flinch works too - if someone is flinching your crosshair to the sky, but you pull down real hard, your barrel will be pointed at the ground but your reticle will be on target allowing you to shoot them. Interesting coding for sure

[@AllStarHockey1331]

​@@Zurrke same thing if you fall and hit the ground hard enough, your aim and cross hair will slam to the ground but your bullets will still be going straight/up

[@arsarma1808]

Yep. It's why I hate that visual. It's utterly deceptive. xD

[@Subsistence69]

@@AllStarHockey1331 literally what OP said lmao

[@AllStarHockey1331]

@@Subsistence69 yeah I realized that after I said it...I didn't get to that part before I saw the comment, and for some dumbass reason I just kept thinking about being flinched while breaking someone's ankles movement wise. And didn't care to delete/edit the comment

[@neoj780]

It’s my favorite 120 for people and it’s good for people who missed out on Igneous. It’s a good option for running other special weapons.

[@James-ji8yz]

i don’t think you can really compare with igneous here as they’re both in different slots

[@HajileMalach]

@@James-ji8yz That.... makes no sense at all. Thats like saying that the immortal is incomparable to the ikelos. Use your brain

[@justsomewalrus9923]

That ending was oddly wholesome 😭

[@Cerberus1141]

Day 250: Cerberus +1 might get a buff next season... No excuses then... >:D

[@ironikz4006]

Badly needs a buff and maybe even an Unstoppable shot built in. It is a Shotgun in a way afterall

[@MASTERLinkYT96]

It should have more range as an "auto rifle" the range is awful or make it deal more damage the closer you are(it is alreadyy like that but more damage would make it usable) as someone who has 700 kills on it a small buff wouldnt be bad at all.

[@Theactman7]

Sorry to break it for ya it isn't getting a buff the leaks are confirmed but still take it with a grain of salt maybe it will get a buff

[@Cerberus1141]

@TDM GAMING They said was over a dozen weapons, and what has been leaked was 3 weapons and the rest being armor changes. It is completely possible

[@randyholcomb-3209]

The range is not that bad you just are only going to hit the 1 out of the 4 bullets that shoots where the reticle is.and it does increased damage further out.

[@A_Block_of_Cheese]

The fact that celerity got turned into an origin trait in alacrity means that if igneous ever comes back, clerity will almost certainly not exist on it anymore which sucks. I love igneous but never kept one with celerity because it was useless before but now its the best perk on it. RIP

[@SilverCrypt]

That's unfortunate. I still have my only adept igneous and it has celerity on it. Maybe I should give it a try.

[@tonyy3366]

It 100% got depreceated its in a twab somewhere. I kept all my celerity rolls things a stat monster cuz it kept the buffed celerity of straigght stats all the time and bonus being last alive

[@SilverCrypt]

@@tonyy3366 it's still infusable, so im all good

[@samperez8364]

My main roll that I always loved was encore/celerity. Love it cause it feels more like a 140 than a 120 with the insane amount of stats you get for free. And now that both encore and celerity are even stronger than before I'm glad that my instincts told me to use that roll

[@Subsistence69]

@@samperez8364 dammnnn actually a twisted roll now with the encore buff 😭

[@DemonZangetsu23]

Only problem for me is actually getting a red border to drop, especially if it's Round Robin

[@donogoodatgames]

Apparently the best way to get red borders (which has kind of worked for me) is to travel from the director in to wherever terminal overload is, check if there are any gold patrols in your area, and if not, drive to the other 2 areas on neomuna and if there aren't, go to orbit and repeat. I tried that for 20mins a couple of days ago and did actually get a couple of red borders (which I hadn't had from random drops in the world for a LONG time haha)

[@MythicRWBY]

@@donogoodatgames don’t even have to go to orbit. Just launch into terminal overload again straight from the ground 😄 That and doing the “from zero…” and “…to hero” quests from Nimbus on all characters gets you a free red border Round Robin and Iterative Loop.

[@donogoodatgames]

@MythicRWBY yeah, I know people have said about just launching it while you're on Neomuna but I was having more success just going to orbit for whatever reason. From what I've heard the way you've suggested works for a lot of people as well, so it's just preference and of course, our favourite mechanic in the game, our lord RNGesus

[@dj-troost528]

The only on that does not drop for me is fckin round robin

[@robertanderson6501]

You can always run the campaign on all your characters that gets you 3 and if you have a character you never use just delete it and run through 2 more time or just go back and forth from orbit to find legend patrols then it's in rnjesus's hands

[@tykegreetseveryone2404]

I hated the feel of igneous the moment I got it and dismatled everyone I had (infused the adepts) because it felt so horrible to me. Round robin just feels fantastic imo and I can craft multiple rolls that do different jobs. Personal preference but it ain't cope. Edit: Also it shades abit TOO well

[@jokeis8684]

You did what? bruh

[@Jrwolvie]

Feel is a very important thing, so I can understand that. I’m the same with a few “meta” weapons

[@tykegreetseveryone2404]

@Jokeis aye bro I just didnt like it. Maybe with the sense im playing on now it'll feel better but im not waitngfor it to release again as I dont care.

[@tykegreetseveryone2404]

@Jrwolvie Exactly, why do you think spare rations and Dire promise were kings of their time? They just felt amazing when shotting. Igneous just fell flat for me ig :p

[@wiimusicremix1343]

Fed

[@infinity6114]

3:35 that's me!! getting 2 tapped out of spawn lol

[@vChilly]

The grind to get this was ridiculous I was at rank 50 nimbus when I needed 1 more of these to craft it having all the other neomuna weapons done, I am now rank 64 and finally got the last one to drop.

[@johnnyhall9154]

Pro tip, when you fall from a high distance and you're gun falls down like at 6:25, you're shots still come from where you're gun would be. It's only an animation and not affecting where you're gun's programmed to shoot from

[@MrLongshotbob]

7:26 Wallah: "My God, is that what I've been doin' to people?"

[@jc719]

you can actually really get some solid Pure Poetry rolls depending on the type of gameplay you are going for. Keep away is just so nice it is hard to beat. Kill Clip was the differentiator for me though and Robin feels great. Igneous is fantastic as well I have like a 2.5 out oo 5 roll and it it still slaps

[@Eacyy]

I probably take Steady hand over Round Robin. But it is a Great looking/sounding gun!

[@Ethonra]

Literally just finished streaming my Lightfall playthru with that Hand Cannon. To me, Round Robin is a straight upgrade from my beloved Loud Lullaby, so of course I will main it.

[@progylgamish2152]

I just want Bungie to bring back igneous hammer back to trials. I'd actually play for that.

[@Johnmaloney1962]

Same, also eye of sol

[@scrotumscratcher2474]

@@Johnmaloney1962 pretty sure you can just focus them from trials engrams

[@Exotic_Magoa]

2:24 had me rolling

[@coolguy4251.]

wish they made a gun like that but for energy i main my steady hand for the kinetic slot

[@Freelix2000]

"that's who I died to" so salty that he just had to embarrass him like that

[@FunniesRS]

7:33 this made me giggle far more than it should have XD

[@seraph1783]

7:22 That grapple transition to the next map.. *chefs kiss*

[@danperkins4781]

I am an opening shot stan. Opening shot on a 120 makes that 2H1B so much easier. Especially witb keep away kicking in accuracy as well, and both enhanced for the slightest even *more* accuracy. IMO the opening shot roll contends witb iggy

[@tylerstinson1807]

I’m with you there. I like having something that helps me going into my first fight and not being too reliant on a kill first. Mostly because I’m not slaying in Crucible like Wallah.

[@ilikemcury7528]

what is the full roll you crafted?

[@scrotumscratcher2474]

@@ilikemcury7528 in case he never responds I recommend either smallbore or hammer forged then ricochet rounds and perks being keep away with opening shot.

[@ilikemcury7528]

@@scrotumscratcher2474 isn't keep away and opening shot overkill?

[@scrotumscratcher2474]

@@ilikemcury7528 would be if opening shot was active past the 1st bullet. But if you want to sub it out there’s also golden tricorn and kill clip. Personally I’m a GT guy but opening shot makes engagements so crispy

[@tylerandersen1078]

that wall edit made me nose exhale out all my oat milk

[@apllevinagr]

good haha

[@Konnerading]

bottom dollar is still slept on. xur had a HFR, Accurized, RF, EP roll a while back and it feels really good a little sluggish but being able to 3 crit out to like 44m definitely is nice.

[@TemporallyAnarchaic]

Agree it's slept on. I've got a RF/EP Bottom Dollar from the days before Origin Traits and it was a beast last weekend in IB (otherwise hadn't used it since right after the 120 nerfs). Zero barrel/mag investment into range and it's still reaching out past 38 meters while picking up 15 Handling, 20 Stability, and 7 AE from Fluted/Steady. Still gets the 3-crit kill at 43 meters even on 10 resil. It's wild how good it actually is.

[@w3ll_0k]

So, I don’t really think the same about igneous hammer, because (I’m kinda biased cause I don’t have one) but being able to craft round robin and it’s a free two tap, it just feels way to good to say igneous is better for me, but that’s my personal opinion, everyone has their own, but some of us are sad because we missed out, unfortunately

[@VanWo]

Whether you craft kill clip or whatever in 4th slot. Fluted barrel with handling mw is the move. You still hit max damage at 38m with keep away and you min max your stability and handling.

[@eagledillanl4824]

If only the red borders would drop… that grind is driving me insane. It’s been almost 3 weeks without a drop. I need 2 more. Fml

[@johnathandurbala1341]

If you have the mats to play with, I enhanced keep away, and enhanced threading or whatever it's called. GAMECHANGER for trials. Buffs handling and when the threadlings spread and hit for around 50 to all the sitters, you might as well have kill clip from all the two taps your getting.

[@MrDaemonic6]

I made Robin for consticiency and pick elemental capacitor, which allows to get 71 range and 62 stability so it's by stats close to my Igneous rolls who sits on 70-80 range and 45-55 stability.

[@bonefat21]

I think it's on par with Igneous. It doesn't have the same stability and handling, but it does have the accuracy from keep away and the extra damage from nano rockets.

[@JH-vb1wo]

Under pressure is God tier on hand cannons I think anything that let's u hit shots u shouldn't be landing is a real good perk. Gonna be hard to choose between under pressure or keep away

[@imbadatgamesree]

Wallah you make me want to capture an exotic Mongolian fish just to name it Giuseppe

[@Painjusu]

Had the same, 2 20 streaks in 1 game and I lagged out 30s remaining. Bungie

[@epitome278]

I think there is a fragment that allows strand weapons to make tangles on kills, this and the tangle mods in the artifact PLUS the fact it one taps tangles is what I think makes this weapon so special this season. You should definitely give it a try fully specd out. Also with the hunter helmet and the fragment that reloads weapons you can keep refreshing your high handling and woven mail just by quick grappling your point or tangles

[@Maddie_The_Sergal]

I think you need to have woven mail for the fragment to make any tangles

[@_-Envy-_]

Path of burning steps and rampage 2 taps btw wallah. Or you can use a radiant build. The best thing is is that you don't need to run solar for burning steps to work. So you can use a subclass as strong as arc/void and make ig hammy an even stronger weapon

[@phillipcasto9350]

I love seeing people grappling the tangles lol. I've been doing that since the first few days. I never see other people do it in game tho.

[@Magnumwithtactical]

When you break your ass landing too hard your gun dips down but it’s just visual .. the gun still shoots where your sight “should” be

[@Thereisnogreatersword]

I love threadling on this gun, along with the microrocket perk it gives me free damage occasionally and let’s me 2 tap with less downtime than kill clip

[@HTMB96]

I only ever got one igneous adept and I absolutely love it, the sheer amount of stats from celerity make it feel so nice

[@spenserthomas5450]

Some of these transitions were nice af the grapple into zoom pan was awesome

[@SpaghettiTop]

It's kinetic, and igneous hammer is literally steroids

[@aksharpatel30]

instead of kil clip im using keep away and elemtal capacitor in 3v3 with arc subclass literally feels so silky smooth

[@That_-_Guy]

Buzzard is pretty good with rangefinder...

[@overbe]

That wall slap edit lol

[@apllevinagr]

hell yeah

[@michaelmyers5496]

I wish bungie would add a new weapon mod called fast hands or quick hands. Something along those lines. We need something to increase the reload speed and handling of some weapon archetypes. 120s being targeted.

[@squallvii1]

I have been able to get 2 taps with my igneous. Rampage x3 and Radiant. Can be tricky at times but possible. I do pair it with Rain of Fire too for the constant ammo.

[@etherealplain]

I really like elemental capacitor on strand in the final column. Gun feels very good in the air

[@CeeCeeCaldwell]

Aztecross made a pretty good comparison between the two. TLDR Round Robin is far more lethal than Igneous Hammer, but Igneous Hammer is far more consistent and better for dueling/winning 1s. I for one 100% agree with that take, and it's likely why Igneous was never given KC as if it could two tap even after all the nerfs to 120s it would be unparalleled in it's archetype for a long time.

[@jonathanferreira8670]

What shader are u using in the HC?

[@Nevesdeath]

lol at all these rehashed moon weapons. They didn’t even change the way it sounds when it fires like Loud Lullaby

[@blakestewart7533]

The sound as well. Like your hitting someone with the force of a semi. A nice "chunck"

[@kaslana115]

Have you tried using the new exotic hunter legs with a 120 hand cannon

[@0ptimusLime]

I always rock my QD/SS Steady Hand when I use a 120. I just like having a 120 that can keep up with fast paced gameplay. Good stuff. But, I'm a Lime. What do I know right?

[@juvaungriffiths5232]

I had a igneous and I accidentally dismantled it 😭😭😭

[@nulla9601]

I just did the campaign on all 3 characters and deleted a character twice to get the red borders (I now have the pulse, grenade launcher, etc. as well). Too bad you don't get any red borders for the smg in the campaign

[@Mariosunbornchild]

I got a something new. Its not amazing but its got harmony and when i pair it with lemonarc and it gets a kill it hits for 98 crit.

[@huegofarley4684]

That ending was hilarious

[@andrewholmes5392]

If you go hard on AE, it can theoretically reach around 70 ae WITH stompees

[@necrolios4640]

Rapid hit elemental capacitor on igneous adept is just too good so glad i farmed it cuz it slaps rn

[@MASTERLinkYT96]

This doesnt beat an explosive payload/ opening shot,range mw and accurized steadyhand hcs true prophecy right?

[@xdifficultviper9916]

Just finished leveling up my crafted one, it is pretty good but it’s mostly the kill clip is mostly novelty. However when you get it rolling it can shut down entire teams in 6s, was also running it with duality and I was just popping off lobby after lobby

[@GryphinHusky]

I swear you synced this upload with Aztecross's, your videos about this HC are both back to back in my feed uploaded within minutes of each other 😂

[@DarrenRL]

Thank god someone else noticed this 💀

[@SayWallahBruh]

LOL I didn’t even see

[@aionvibe.]

I can’t seem to get a few for this on console yet, I’ve been getting the worst teammates no matter what I play so my momentum of sweating has just gone down drastically. Idk what has happen to this game honestly

[@ret155]

Have you done a crafted rangefinder epicurean yet?

[@Lemon-x-]

Idk I've been loving my round robin with keep away + opening shot for 3v3. I have a pretty stacked adept igneous too (with the og celerity for stacked handling) so it's not like I haven't got a good comparison or anything. It just feels like I'm being gifted a lot more headshots with round robin compared to igneuous, probably due to the combination of keep away and opening shot jacking up the accuracy. They're both in different slots though so there's no real point in comparing the two since you can just use whichever one fits with your special weapon choice.

[@joffwtf]

3:18 Crazy? I Was Crazy Once. They Locked Me In A Room. A Rubber Room. A Rubber Room With Rats. And Rats Make Me Crazy.

[@sapphiros_word]

Do a review on the iterative loop fusion rifle. With under pressure and kickstart, its a monster. Its craftable, and now bungie made rapid fire fusions better increasing damage by 15 per burst. You can get 15 meters of range and the more stable the deadlier it is. Im sure you got iterative loops patterns (if not all by now) on the round robin grind just like I did. People are sleeping on this, get to it fam!

[@jaycd.]

keep away elecap round robin has nearly the same stat sum as igneous, they're both great options for 3s tbh and you have more options for your special wep with rr

[@legolokicars5820]

I got the pattern for this just the other day, spent yesterday leveling it up. I couldnt take it off. It is so much fun. I dont even want kill clip, im more of an elicap guy, but it still slayed out. I took it into comp for my weekly three games and pulled the highest kd comp game i have every played. It was amazing.

[@pancho2247]

What’s the god roll igneous ? I have a few adepts and a few regulars

[@Cereal_Killa]

What is that shader on it?!?! gonna have to definitely try this one out!

[@haydenw7981]

I enjoy it but if I'm running a 120 in that slot I'm running surplus kill clip loud lullaby, it's so free

[@takedownsand5213]

Wat shader does ur armour have and how u make it look like that

[@SilverSurfer17]

I’ve been enjoying it so far. Like you said, for 6s that will probably be the go to. I almost hate it because now some of the older weapons just feel power crept.

[@idox7340]

I'm glad you are reviewing it. That thing is better than Igneous Hammer.

[@braydenmurphy9840]

Sturm with catalyst is extremely strong. I think it competes with igneous. Sturm has 80 handling and 90 range and 50 stability.

[@jonahbrown5669]

Igneous with smallbore, ricochet, arc elemental capacitor, range MW, and adept stability has 87 range, 75 stability and 90 handling lol

[@overbe]

@@jonahbrown5669 seems balanced

[@braydenmurphy9840]

@@jonahbrown5669 and how many people have that? 3? Key word "compete" not better.

[@spicysnowman8886]

​@@jonahbrown5669 who tf has that roll? When 120s were meta all anyone wanted was max range and rampage.

[@scrotumscratcher2474]

@@spicysnowman8886 tbf small bore, ricochet and range masterwork is things you want. Elemental capacitor is sketch tho

[@ursah]

where did you get that kite for your hunter ??

[@One23_469]

Which shader you use on your Hunter?

[@MrAustinPwner]

thanks for giving ppl a reality check bout this weapon. only good thing is that is a strand hc. ignorant hammer its on another level

[@lparco450]

You don’t even need to run kill clip on this thing, there are a few better options that will actually help you, not just help you in 6s, which is what mainly makes igneous way better

[@Rambo_IIII]

3 f----ing hours of heroic public events over 3 days and not a single goddamn redbar Round Robin. This is why I don't usually farm for stuff.

[@paulnetti8826]

My King Duke range finder+kill clip stay in my heart...

[@joffwtf]

7:48 Crazy? I Was Crazy Once. They Locked Me In A Room. A Rubber Room. A Rubber Room With Rats. And Rats Make Me Crazy.

[@stevanmilovanovic9128]

Yea, people saying Round Robin is better than Igneous are huffing some ultra-fine grade Copium. Just by the monster stat package alone Igneous is in a level of its own, not to mention perks, but, what I will say is that, Round Robin is probably the best ***kinetic slot*** 120 that we have now and it enables you to use some great (exotic) energy weapons.

[@spicysnowman8886]

Igneous let's you use chaperone

[@rodrigodasilva7862]

Wallah you're not the only one that's desperate also Jack Harlow has a BBC

[@leonechaos]

So reg igneous hammer or round robin?

[@LilShriga]

day 1: prometheus lens in your hands with a lock build would be deadly

[@tannernordquist5664]

I spent over 10 hours on neomuna just to get my one last red boarder of this gun, so even if it is bad you best know I’m using it everyday

[@tbh2pure965]

I love the idea of crafting but the red boarder drop rates and time it takes to level kills me so I’ll use my Keep Away Ele Cap roll the stats are actually great

[@miirico5398]

What res can you two tap people with this?

[@vinivnazevedo]

Wallah, if the leaked Stompee changes are true, what do you plan on using instead?

[@Fr0stguard]

Idk the Round Robin just feels better to me and seems to register headshots better than any Igneous Hammer I have. So I prefer the Round Robin.

[@lanceseaman88]

You could build this for 3s by using Opening Shot or Elemental Capacitor. I think Keep Away is best tho for 3s as well.

[@parlangua89]

Round robin is the best kinetic 120 in the game, igneous best engery 120. They both do different things and that’s ok. But this weapon is crispy AF.

[@ItFiresInSpurtz]

My take is the gun is fantastic and has great synergy with the pvp tangle strand hunter builds. I love 120s and especially love my igny and I'm always going to be some sort of biased to it but I would def say this thing is easy number 2 as 120s go

[@thesloth7886]

this weapon practicly aims itself its amazing

[@eldritchpain]

Universe buttering you up with that luck buff my dude

[@jedispartancoolman]

Igneous can 2 tap with rampage right?

[@iconriot8349]

Nah nah, hear me out. Robin with e cap on arc, ricc rounds, small bore, stab mw, enhanced keep away, feels just as good if not better than Igneous. Then throw on back up mag. I'm telling you

[@ClaymorePvP]

seems like a mid build but ive found that devils ruin + synco is insane. devils ruin to pre charge and shred, and synco is seper accurate and can 2 burst with headseeker. i went solo queue flawless in trials for the first time with this build and my kd went up by .7

[@austingoodman2177]

Now compare this to a godroll Crimil's Dagger