You should animate on paper

Y'all should try animating on paper.
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[@Lorokun]

We go back to our animation ancestors. They really are highly skilled to animate traditionally

[@RagTag-N-Bobtail]

And what's crazy is that they were better than we are today... imagine if Milt Kahl had a Cintiq.

[@pbskgaming3288]

Brother you know any beginners level course please🙏 recommend

[@animeguy1160]

well hw had bro but at that time he was on the way to his grave@@RagTag-N-Bobtail

[@JaejoongPrincess]

Classical animation is animating on paper.

[@ferd3007]

I think with all this AI crap going on artists are going to go back to traditional media

[@samaan7]

Best Japanese animators I know all work traditionally on paper. Because natural medium's tactile response helps to draw and good old paper doesn't kill your eyes' retina so fast as your computer monitor.

[@jenpachi2408]

Factually true! paper produces better quality but the technical process is harder. Overall I agree though.

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

@@jenpachi2408and better time

[@scroptels]

You're still staring at a light source while animating traditionaly

[@armghaan]

@@scroptels digital has WAY more blue light

[@scroptels]

@@armghaandoes that make much difference? you're still staring at a light directly.

[@AlexanderORiordan]

I almost choaked on my drink when bro say 15 hundred, then I realized Yen is not USD lmaooo

[@RaspBerryPies]

I think that’s why some ppl are so confused and saying it is not cheaper when it literally is tho

[@FrizzyAnimation]

Honestly animating on paper is probably one of the best ways to learn animation. It really teaches you to have an eye for timing + the skills learned are transferable to other ways of animation. Nothing beats flipping paper (this is coming from a 3D animator lol)

[@DitoBoyMenggambar]

For people that kept arguing with his points, remember that it's just an advice, he is not forcing anyone to go full on traditional, even he is doing digital too, it's just that doing it on paper is a pretty great practice. About the cost, yes, digital animation cost zero if you already got the device for it but what he talked about is entry cost for it, if someone doesnt have any devices and wanting to try animating once then papers is a pretty good option to practice first and just see whether you like animating or not instead of buying tablet and software just to find out that you hate it or it isn't your passion (still usable for other things though if you can spare some money to buy those devices or just resell them 😅), but if youre broke then just go get some cheap papers, be creative and resourceful to make your own setup. No need to do anything extravagant and you don't have to always animate on paper until you clutter up your house, just take his advice and if you don't want to do it then stick to what is best for you.

[@EvaFuji]

His point about cost is very questionable.

[@user-uf1mp2pg5z]

🤔

[@RaspBerryPies]

Can’t believe anyone is arguing about the cost of entry its is EXTREMELY obvious what he is saying I don’t see how anyone missed that or tried to argue with it. Also even if you have devices it still cost a LOT to get either a drawing pad or program that can animate. Before I could draw digitally I used paper because it’s way cheaper.

[@ducksoff7236]

@@EvaFuji How is it questionable? I just looked on amazon. Light box 13 bucks. Cheap lead holder 6 bucks. Registration bar 9 bucks. Flexible camera mount 12 bucks. 100 pack of pre punched paper 21 bucks. All together 61 dollars to get started......oh I guess he was 20 bucks off. Which I'm sure buying in the U.S. vs buying where he is at can account for. Your stating that his point is "very questionable" makes your comment extremely questionable.

[@tirvine9102]

​@@ducksoff7236 The paper adds up. 100 sheets is nothing, but it's enough to get started.

[@beachchickensmedia]

Yes, traditional methods build good habits. Exactly, well put.

[@RagTag-N-Bobtail]

You could even forego the light table; buy a rectangle piece of plexiglass and use a desk lamp to illuminate from the backside.

[@plum_swf]

My two additions would be use an led bulb to limit heat, and get a surface that isn't completely transparent to reduce eye strain. My older model lightbox works great but heat and vision discomfort do become a concern after working for long periods of time. I do see thin led light boxes all the time for like 30-40 dollars. You would just need a peg bar for 10 bucks. I've thought about getting one of those for years lol

[@RagTag-N-Bobtail]

@@plum_swfHeck far! It sounds like I'm taking the long shortcut trying to save money xD

[@loganshalloe5927]

I hole punch my own 60gsm papers and made a translucent plastic drawing board with Lego technic axles sticking through it for pegs 😂

[@RagTag-N-Bobtail]

​@@loganshalloe5927 HOLY CRAP DUDE xD If you made it as some famous animator someday, that would be the greatest story. Take pictures of your setup just in case lol

[@loganshalloe5927]

​@@RagTag-N-Bobtail lmao, shall do 😁

[@lyra_sen3482]

At university we had a workshop of traditional animation, the idea was very interesting, everyone would start their animation with a circle and finish with a circle so we could make a gif with everyone animation in sequence, anyway, I hate it doing that, but perhaps that's because we were at first semester, principles of animations was on the second semester, so I did not know what I was doing. Pearphs now days I would enjoy traditional animation more

[@jmiquelmb]

That msut be a common practice because it's exactly what anime director Hideaki Anno (Evangelion, Kare Kano) did with a class of students when visiting his hometown school

[@ezbaek8541]

I love that bit about drawing them like a kid crying at a zoo. So much of what I love about animation is how it gives life to little human moments like these.

[@StudioARMAND2012]

For my animations i draw the keyframes on paper and after scanning them i create the Inbetweens with Clip Studio.

[@luisbarrios-yq7ih]

that process sounds really fine

[@samaan7]

The same method I use now too, also I draw only mini thumbnails of rough keys and then I scan it a way faster than whole sheets, then I tie down roughs and so on, I've found it as very economic way of animating on paper.

[@derock4art608]

Have done this way too! It can be faster to draw on paper for sure! To save you some time, you may even want to use Cacani for in-between generation help as well. Save you time and you'll be able to create a lot really fast. 8 hour tweening down to 1-2 hours easily.

[@Trid3nt861]

Aaron Blaise has a course on drawing traditionally. Its amazing how many papers go into animating a simple 14 second animation. He learned from Glenn Keane and one way he teaches is to not use the lightbox and focus on the placement of the paper.

[@tirvine9102]

Yes, you don't want to use the lightbox. It's useful for inbetweens. Mostly have it off and flip like the wind. If your paper is a crinkled mess, that's good!

[@timbomb374]

I've always felt more comfortable with drawing on paper as opposed to a screen so might be a good idea to try this out.

[@AB-jt4rs]

I think for me, it's because drawing digitally requires you to have a lot more confidence in your lines. With traditional art you get some leg room in that area

[@Emiruuu]

@@AB-jt4rsdrawing on paper is easier to feel out and the texture's really nice. digital feels like dragging an ice cube along an acrylic sheet, and i just can't imagine drawing like that

[@howlssnailhouse]

I'm not an animator but I do make art. Have tried digital art but idk it's not for me I think. I have to make an animation video for school and am making it on paper (bc again I suck at digital) but it's so hard and time-consuming my lord. Respect to all the animators out there, especially the traditional artists! They each have their own struggles ofc.

[@Himari_LostInSpace]

this is very helpful since im more comfortable with drawing on paper

[@jhoneduardlozanoreyes9183]

Many, many years ago when I was in high school (around 2009) I made several attempts at animations both on paper and in MS Paint using a mouse in Windows XP (yes, all that stuff was lost during several moves). It wasn't the prettiest thing in the world but I liked the experience, maybe that's why I don't have such a hard time learning the principles of animation.

[@matthewrausch1837]

I actually prefer drawing traditionally. Sure there are advantages of digital but I like a traditional set up so much better! I find the actual drawing progress so much easier. Especially making lines. I think artists should try to draw on paper. It is a lot simpler than it looks. Also I feel like drawing on paper can help you get better. Even quick sketches look great on paper. I defiantly have a preference towards paper. Things are more dynamic in my opinion. Less stiff. I really do think artist should try traditional. I also think it's less distracting than digital. Plus you don't have to worry about saving and crashing

[@JaejoongPrincess]

You can use computer paper and use an animation hole punch. Its a lot cheaper and you get like 500 paper on top of that.

[@JackYeagerA1]

This amazes me as a traditional animation activist to know that they still animate on paper in japan! And there are people like you teaching how to do it :") I wpuld love to know hpw they did and one can do the backlights and neons and such in traditional animation please!!😢

[@hirohunter1094]

Watching Eizouken ni wa Te o Dasuna last night..and encounter this vid, thanks for always sharing this knowledge..after see this make me greatfull for tech that we have now make things easy..and respect the necessary to try analog at least once.

[@sleepycritical6950]

Eizouken is soooo good

[@supakku]

His artstyle kinda looks like eizoken

[@HiHi-oc3gh]

I think you should’ve mentioned and demonstrated rolling (for anyone that doesn’t know, it’s a way of flipping the papers to see the motion). You use it in the video but I don’t think anyone would pay attention to that other than the people that already know what it is

[@YXXXXNN]

animation paper up in Canada is 200 sheets for 30-35 leaf pesos, much more expensive than the video, so if you have a low budget and a lot of paper anyway you may be better off just using a standard hole punch and DIYing an animation peg with a wooden ruler and some wooden dowels

[@MakoKitten]

how expensive is a hole punch that makes the animation pegs?

[@TA1JU]

​@@MakoKitten very very expensive and hard to find, back in the day they used to have 1 for a whole animation studio. You can buy 3 punches (2 tag punches and 1 single hole one) to create a DIY acme punch or buy one with 3 holes for around 40 bucks and use a 3 round pegs bar

[@LisaandtheRatRangers]

This is so amazing, this is what I was looking for. I look forward to doing this.

[@gearjacky]

Just want to say thank you for taking the time for all the fantastic videos you produce! This channel has probably been the most helpful when it comes to practical learning for the process of animation.

[@malicandraw]

Really loved your style 😮 great work. Keep it up

[@user-dk4gy7or8k]

"just like the kids at the zoo" got me wailing

[@ms00kye]

Totally agree on your opinion of the pencil. I use a similar one with 2B lead and I loooove it

[@Chimmikuats]

Thank you for this amazing tutorial! It's fascinating to see the process. As someone whom grow up drawing on paper, drawing digitally is never felt the same. But for convenience and practicality we mostly draws digitally nowadays. Oh boy, I'm inspired to try this someday!

[@stinger5275]

Congrats for your channel for getting so big! I remember 2 years ago I discovered it, it didn't had that visibility..much deserved in my opinion ! よくやった !

[@OvOanimationstudios]

This is so interesting and oddly relaxing to watch, thanks for sharing

[@octaveroi]

C'est exactement la vidéo que j'attendais

[@bangripki8406]

Thanks to Mr Dong Chang. . Keep sharing about animating. . 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

Really cool to see your process.

[@applepretz5368]

Hey MicahBuzan! Glad to see you're interested in drawing animation on paper as well. I have a question, how often do you draw on Paper with pencil & Pegbars to make your animated music videos? I remember seeing your early animated shorts and could tell that most of your early work was animated on paper, So that's why I'm asking. Anyways, Love your work man, Cheers.

[@Painroses]

I love drawing on paper, and making animations is one of my dreams. I try to do that digitally because I don't want to waste paper, it's so fun yet so painful I always give up half way 😅 maybe I really need to start over and use the traditional method

[@nosiah]

i took one of my old sketchbooks, a clear plastic container drawer, and put a floodlight in it, and made myself a diy setup. Thank you for the inspiration!

[@PufftasticJames4]

Animating on paper is actually a good habit to have! Even if you accidentally lose the pen to your graphics tablet, there's always another way!

[@jilliancrawford7577]

Traditional mediums can teach so much! I feel like I have gotten a lot better as an artist as I've taken time to experiment with traditional mediums and take a break from digital mediums. I think it's because the lack of modern tools like multiple layers, scaling, copy & pasting, etc. has made it easier to notice mistakes and take improving a lot more seriously. If I made something too big or too small on a drawing program, I could just resize it for example, and knowing I can't do that with a pencil and paper makes me put more effort into getting the sizes right. Even if a medium isn't what you choose to be your main one, exploring it is still valuable! Stupid question, but what is the correct size of animation paper? I have seen two or three sizes, one being 8.5x11, and I am unsure of what is correct. With the 8.5x11 one, I can't help but question if animation paper of that particular size is a scam because of how it's basically pre-punched regular printer paper. I have hole punches for animation pegs at home so then it's a matter of having the right paper sizes.

[@littlecurrybread]

so relaxing to watch, ty

[@sebbychou]

I remember when cameras was the hard-to-acquire part... I really should do paper and stopmo again

[@dachi_art]

I don't think animating on paper is necessarily the most economical option. You can "start" with a lower budget, but if you want to keep animating then it will cost you paper and pencil each time, having a computer and tablet is a one time purchase. Some people (mostly kids and teens) start with a phone app even (Flipaclip) and a simple stylus. A cheap laptop and a basic graphic tablet would be the next cheaper option. Then the most budget ipad (curently the 9th gen) with an apple pencil will cost you around $500 USD but that offers a great drawing experience and there's many good animation apps. After that, a good computer and a big drawing display would be the next upgrade for professionals. I think digital animation is getting more and more accesible which is great. Traditional animation has always been costly and messy and needed way more time to get a final animation. Sure digital animation have their cons but those are also saving time (quality vs time) Anime is a great example on techniques to save time and resources, like the static shots with camera pans and a single drawing moving across the screen to "fake" animation. Should we embrace digital techniques or hold onto the old way of making animation? PS: You should try to use the liquify tool in Clip Studio Paint to correct proportions and even to create slight movements between frames. I think is the next big time saver for 2d animator.

[@chidorirasenganz]

Actually, the cheapest is $350 because the entry level iPad usually be found for 250+100 for the Apple Pencil. Then throw in something like procreate dreams and you’re good.

[@laum5371]

Computers are hardly a 1 time purchase. And most people dont have the option to spend that amount inmediately, while they can get 10$ for paper every certain days

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@laum5371 there hasn’t been an iPad released since 2019 that you still couldn’t use to this day to draw. You can draw far more than if you bought stacks of paper. Also it’s more forgiving than paper and you can experiment with color and other mediums with little to no friction

[@laum5371]

@chidorirasenganz well, I said computers, I dont care about Ipads.

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@laum5371 iPads are computers…

[@LookeStuff]

Beautiful to watch

[@prettyspectrum6371]

Love your videos, didn't know lightsbles were easy to come by. A request for a possible video: is am explanation from how anime names it's animation, I quite not understand how A1 work yet, since it's different to how we name it in western

[@jonmichaelgalindo]

Ordered, and the stuff will arrive this weekend. :-)

[@sealislandgeeksn823]

Respect for the traditional craftsmanship! How many drawings/sheets/frames was used in this guide ? You style reminds me of the good old Studio Ghibli vibe/style/atmosfære ❤ Greetings from Denmark!

[@NishantKumar-gk8zb]

Hey @Dong Chang ,We would love to see a whole course related to hand drawn animation and digital animation if possible pls make course related to this bro ,you are inspiration for us

[@a_squareartt]

Amazing work sir❤

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

Lovely animation on paper is as a classic style for me

[@masban]

i was animet using light table when high school in some studio animation in bogor. Thank you for them, i really have experience paper for animation

[@SiphanMoon]

Thank you! ✨ I'm currently trying to get back into drawing and your videos are very helpful! They're quick and informative. ☺️ Grüße aus Deutschland

[@pbskgaming3288]

Brother you know any beginners level course please🙏 recommend

[@Trishpaytaxes]

@@pbskgaming3288 Aaron Blaise has a few tutorials. They're a bit on the longer side, but he explains things really well. He's also an animator who has worked on big Disney films, so he knows what he's talking about. I recommend starting off with a Squash and Stretch tutorial. Squash and Stretch is a huge part of animation. Squash and Stretch also focuses a lot on timing and spacing, which is also a huge part of animation. If you can master that, you're already a decent animator.

[@pbskgaming3288]

@@Trishpaytaxes thanku so much brother. You know any Japanese 2d animation course

[@Trishpaytaxes]

@@pbskgaming3288 I don't, sorry. But there are plenty of tutorials you can find on KZbin. Also animation works the same, regardless of the country. The only thing that's different are the terms they use

[@Drawperfectcircles]

Informative. I’ll remember this forever

[@inkthinker]

Draw every frame, absolutely. Draw it on paper... not so much. You're absolutely right about the cost-of-entry problems to digital work, though.

[@ReddNorskDub]

I think you save more time with a drawing tablet and when it comes to the end product it's all about how much time and love you put in to it.

[@TheMetalValkyrie]

space also

[@Jake28]

Also skill. The most unskilled animator could put months of time and love into something and still have it turn out bad, whereas someone more skilled would be able to make something good in a couple of hours.

[@ReddNorskDub]

@@Jake28 This was more about drawing tablet and paper. I think you will save more time with a drawing tablet at the end.

[@supersh0i]

Ur hands are so pretty, not in a weird way lol

[@JuanThaSilva]

🤨 Huh?

[@mrbob7891]

i just noticed how clean ur cuticles are mashallah 😂

[@lepearcreatif]

Now i just need how to draw consistently and not have a messy continuity.

[@FlashFastBlack]

"Cry like a kid who sees a animal they never seen before..." What does this mean? lol

[@illustreightr2630]

And Acme hole punches should be widespread and cheaper than $300.

[@DylanVsTheWorld2003]

I'm practicing digital animation and making good progress but I have a yearning to try traditional once I'm good enough.

[@Emenlink]

Thank you so much for your advises.

[@outlawsyl]

My first animations were pencil sketches on paper, and I'd straight up take a picture of a frame, then go over it with eraser and draw the next frame over it, and then edit all those photos into an animation in post processing. They looked horrendous, yes XD

[@cloudwasntvibeing]

i used to animate using sticky note stacks :D

[@CarvedDaWarped]

Nice.

[@glockenspiel266]

Thank you dong

[@user-zn1me5cl6f]

Light table is too expensive for me, I'm using the old unused tv we have here at home

[@potatop172]

Only part I disagree in this video is the part with paying a lot for a device over traditional. Which I agree, if you plan on doing it once. Other than that, digitally you get unlimited sheets for what you paid while with paper you’ll have to keep buying 🤣 but I loved this video! Traditional animation works just how I thought it would and it was really satisfying seeing it put to work. Even down to peg shifting. I peg shift digitally all the time and I went “ooohhh” when I saw that you take it off the sheet holder to shift it even though it was so simple and obvious 🤣 I laughed at myself even tho I’d also do the same.

[@D3DBATZ_Art]

I’m inspired to do some… I have a plastic peg bar I stole from uni 😅

[@bakawaki]

Wow, I admire anyone with the courage to animate on paper. I'm so used to the comfort of digital onion skin.

[@cavemann_]

I really like your style! Do you do illustrations? Do you upload anywhere other than twitter and youtube?

[@ChloeSohma]

11:54 I love this application!

[@fatitankeris6327]

I just don't have the holder and light setup, but I tried building something. I hope to buy it though to maybe try.

[@DitoBoyMenggambar]

Good luck with that

[@kalakritistudios]

2D hand drawn art animation is how we gone beat AI.

[@resistancepublishing]

Good morning. I’ve been catching up on your videos and I love your work. I wanted to ask, are you open for commissions?

[@mnzznxplay9747]

I was making trad animation when I was 6 years old. I was really into my fanfiction about my fav game, first I made comic about it. Then I wanted to make animation and I knew only that it's made by drawing on lots of paper sheets. So I started drawing, but back then I had zero skill in drawing, so I wasted paper on this

[@emmanuelkordah7335]

This looks cool. Ctl+z has spoiled me.

[@Nikku4211]

Tried this when I was a kid. It quickly became a tedious process so I kept abandoning it every time I tried.

[@KillerTacos54]

Incredible video

[@Ozymandias-oj3we]

I cannot express how badly I want to do this now

[@hiyorikuyamarurin3141]

Thank you ❤❤❤

[@Splat654]

The thing is I always dreamed animating on paper but I always thought "ok i draw..and...then?" And it was like a real struggle for me. Like a real problem. I never google how to animate on paper, but thanks to this video i realised i need to research it and try because i always wanted to

[@Lill0fD]

I just wish it was cheaper to get animation paper here in Canada. I've been averaging about 6 dollars per sheet when I factor in shipping costs. Hopefully I'll get better options as I start going through the sheets more, but it's probably going to be a case of buying a bunch in bulk or something like that. Also I hate the program that calls itself "Animation Paper." I don't care if it's good or not, but it has made the search even more frustrating than it is.

[@claymationgloves3662]

Ok. At least once right? Well, I do claymation but... i know how to draw too. Lemme grab some paper rq. Finna make a head turn

[@salt7505]

I only intend to animate traditionally, The only way I like to use machines as a shortcut is to collect and distribute creativity, but all will be truly made by my hands. its permanence will not be disrupted by solar flares which will innevitably black out the computer world.

[@pinkhairblackman8141]

dang its a pain in the butt to take a photo of every cell, but it was interesting in watching thanks

[@gavin2224]

links would be nice but it is nice that you tell us what to get

[@vampiregamingextra]

We wanted one more traditional paper animation tutorial because my character proportions were not correct while animating 😢

[@tirvine9102]

That's tricky. You could make a model sheet and turn around to have a reliable refrence. Then just practice drawing it. Perhaps consider a simpler design. Western animation is full of characters made of very basic shapes.

[@Eviloohoo]

I do have a flipbook animation set but I haven’t gotten around to using it

[@MejeAnimacion]

the expencive part is the paper puncher , is call acme paper puncher or somthing like that and ist quit expensive

[@user-sy7cb8rj6n]

음~ 종이작화가 확실이 좋아~~

[@stitchgor3]

I’m learning to animate digitally and whilst I want to do traditional, I just don’t enjoy it:( I’m way less burnt out now I’ve started drawing digital and now I think I know why! I get discouraged,stressed and upset very easily and traditional art always took my longer and so the more mistakes I made, the more burnt out and discouraged I’d get

[@blu3traash]

I didn't know light tables were so cheap, i honestly expected them to be hundreds of dollars but their on Amazon for less than 30

[@StarMan1051]

I really wanted to get into paper animation

[@user-fh2dt5uy5q]

I respect u💯💯

[@samankucher5117]

awesome

[@AdventureCJ]

The only animation I do traditionally (or the only animation I actually do) is 2 fps animatics.

[@OmegaTakenZ]

When I first started animating, i animated on paper. And it's actually better imo.

[@AnimeWorld.n]

Can you please make a video on front walk cycle

[@poipop]

i just flip the paper instead of using a light panel thingy lmao

[@jmalmsten]

I've been looking at doing things on paper again. But, I also would like to be able to punch holes into cheap copy paper to keep costs down long term. But hot darned. A cheapo animation paper punch is consistently at least $300 or more on ebay. I... I just can't justify the expense when I already have my computer, Krita, Blender and a Cintiq. Qnd then there's the question of storing the drawings. And building a rig to ohoto them. Or dedicating a flatbed scanner... Things just add up. And feels unnecessary when already having moved all digital. :D

[@Ace0398]

Can u upload on a vid of colouring your drawing? In anime style

[@ProjectMirai64]

Epic

[@senior_sakuga]

watched this vid a few times and i still dont get how he timed out the keys for this tbh

[@azn789456]

Hi Dong, it’s Shen ❤