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@something_Something5543 ай бұрын
DART?! Over half of chimps runs wouldn't be possible without the little fellas
@vibincat90373 ай бұрын
its just outclassed
@something_Something5543 ай бұрын
@vibincat9037 true but after the obyn nerf a while back that made it so that you can't start with him in chinps anymore these guys are the next best thing
@Stint.3 ай бұрын
Dart monkey is, more than anything, a very cheap and price-effective tower. As a result, most of its upgrades aren’t that strong. It’s not at all bad- in fact, it’s probably the single best starting tower maybe besides sub (if not taking into account that it needs water). However, the low price for it means that it has a low ceiling for its strength.
@RetsamX3 ай бұрын
Many towers are overrated for their good endgame. So I guess it's only fair to rate towers based on their usefullness in early-, mid- and endgame. Dart is only good in earlygame.
@wilale3 ай бұрын
Thats why the monkey village is a thing @@Stint.
@senpai2.0543 ай бұрын
the polls being only limited to 4 options kinda makes it unfair tho, especially that mermonkey one
@no-Zbee3 ай бұрын
Acting like he was able to add more
@pablobarboza95802 ай бұрын
@@no-ZbeeHe should just do a poll on another site with all towers and then grab the 4 with the most votes, it's not that hard to do y'know. Just post the link on KZbin and that's it
@MaxiCubi2 ай бұрын
@@no-Zbee theres way to counter that by making a lot of them, kinda like in a tournament. So what it does is it makes it so it doesnt matter if 3 of the options are litteraly the best tower in the game and the other one is just a decent one, since at the end only the true worse one are gonna get picked.
@no-Zbee2 ай бұрын
@@MaxiCubi not really the problem with multiple polls is that the same people wont always get recommended the polls you would have to check daily in order to actually participate in all of them there will always be problems with multiple community posts
@MaxiCubi2 ай бұрын
@@no-Zbee this doesnt really matter when theres enough of people, since people almost always have about the same opinion, and even if you don't, 1 people out of a few thousand don't really change much.
@abyssangel763 ай бұрын
y'all are tripping the mermonkey bottom and top path give so much support/stall
@vibincat90373 ай бұрын
its just outclassed
@JoeyMx3 ай бұрын
Why are you commenting the exact same thing on every comment that says _____ is actually good. @@vibincat9037
@Raikuthedragon3 ай бұрын
top path gives a lot of ceramic popping power, slows down moab classes, more pierce for nearby monkey and allow you to place water towers on land Bottom path stalls moabs and make them take massive damage
@c01onel3 ай бұрын
@@vibincat9037 Outclassed by what? Bottom path mermonkey is literally one of the best towers in the game rn
@igelameageln3 ай бұрын
@@vibincat9037 howw???? it can currently solo chimps mode
@Williamm2013 ай бұрын
Justice for mermonkey
@wtfox82063 ай бұрын
Out of the magic monkeys it has to be the worst unfortunately
@bit_crushed3 ай бұрын
@@wtfox8206 Wizard is literally objectively worse
@wilale3 ай бұрын
@@wtfox8206you DO realize bottom path extends the track, top BUFFS and middle... Okay Fk middle path
@wtfox82063 ай бұрын
@@bit_crushed d breath?
@pizzadeliveryspringtrap91523 ай бұрын
@@wtfox8206 not as good as bottom path mermonkey.
@Bonelord693 ай бұрын
This felt like a loaded survey my guy, of course the bomb is gonna be voted worse than a boat. I feel like all the monkeys should've been surveyed at once (through like a google poll maybe) so we didn't have to have them compared unfairly like this.
@SouthernHavoc3 ай бұрын
The problem with that is way less people would vote in a google poll. KZbin polls have the most reach and therefore the largest sample size. Having every option available at once would be good but it wouldn’t change the fact that bomb is objectively worse than boat for example.
@littlefox30993 ай бұрын
I feel like people only voted mermonkey because its the newest.
@mehkryakva3 ай бұрын
I think, that's because they compare it with sub and bucc, and they are just better. So, not really that good w/o water (or people simply disappointed they can't use full potential), and outclassed with water. And personally I really don't like that it has such a big footprint, I don't really remember how big it is, but sometimes it feels like it us the same as bucc or bigger. I never can put it down without leaving that stupid spots.
@yosef8353 ай бұрын
I mean they compared him to really good towers it was really unfair
@saitheruler35813 ай бұрын
He isn't that good, his only good path is a fake version of the bloonchipper
@wokeuplikedis15003 ай бұрын
prob cus of middle path being one of the worse in the game
@nicjoy44073 ай бұрын
@@saitheruler3581Top path is really consistently good, and bottom path is like a top 10 expert chimps tower still
@grimreaper15423 ай бұрын
Beast Handler is objectively really good. People just don’t like the spam/micro
@wtfox82063 ай бұрын
It's bad for the price
@Ayolin_Vailo3 ай бұрын
I feel like micro is also more annoying for mobile players like me, but I still try to use handler every now and then
@DicksonGaylord03 ай бұрын
I love micro
@shughes57783 ай бұрын
I really like the beast handler. I don’t particularly like the Mid path, but the dragging potential from the bottom path and the Moab popping power from the top is really fun.
@thiagosantosfalcao53293 ай бұрын
@@wtfox8206 it's not, most of the time you only go for t4, both top and mid path cost around 35k and are insanely good, there's a reason orca is S- in the most recent tier list
@strider_hiryu8503 ай бұрын
~ 1:35 "his range is just too small" does he know?
@S0meCrazyIdiot3 ай бұрын
im pretty sure he knows.. he just wasn't planing ahead.
@YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies3 ай бұрын
It's actually 1:32 (Second time today I'm correcting someone's incorrect timestamp. Is it really that hard to just check if it's correct and edit your comment if it's not?)
@Panda155932 ай бұрын
@@YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookiesfr! Like why can’t you just check?
@strider_hiryu8502 ай бұрын
@@YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies it was close enough. i consider all timestamps to have a range ± 5 seconds since that's how far one tap of the arrow keys takes you in the video player
@mightykaz76862 ай бұрын
@@strider_hiryu850 why would people watch like 15 seconds of video searching for the quote when you could just do it right 💀
@mitchellwilley72082 ай бұрын
mermonkey is litterally probably one of the best towers in the game, all 3 paths are OP, top path does great damage and adds pierce to surrounding monkeys and is cheap to get 5th upgrade. middle tower has an ability with global range that bounces around and does crazy damage it can pretty much carry to lvl 101. Bottom path you only need 4th upgrade to spin round ddts and the 5th upgrade reduces cooldowns of other towers in range....
@JardiHardi3 ай бұрын
The mermonkey is actually goated
@lawrencemalone19003 ай бұрын
Shhhhh. Don’t say it or it will get nerfed. Let the nerds struggle with the other subpar towers while we speed run with the mermonkeys
@thatonguy24073 ай бұрын
I think that the Mermonkey and Dart Monkey both got kinda screwed with what they were paired against in the polls. They're both very powerful, but compared to the Wizard, Glue Gunner(especially with the recent buffs), and Ace, the Dart Monkey doesn't hold up as well, despite being a thoroughly A-B tier tower. The Mermonkey is in the same boat against the Dartling, Heli, and Druid(again, especially with the recent buffs). Mermonkey and Dart Monkey are both A-B tier towers put against towers that are either firmly among the best in the game, or are just overall better for more content. Mermonkey and Dart Monkey both shine in CHIMPS, due to the low price point compared to things like the Ace, Dartling, and Heli's tier 5s, and their great overall power. But when you can farm for money, they don't really hold up to those more expensive towers. The Beast Handler is one of the worst in the game, simply because of how expensive they are, and how much more work it takes to get similar results to cheaper towers. You need to buy 4 tier 4s to get 1 tier 5, and by the time you reach that, you've put so much in that you can't afford much else, unless you're waiting to get it until the late game, at which point, you're better off just getting multiple cheaper tier 5s or one of the less finicky ones. They just aren't worth the learning curve or expense, and require farming to really start outshining much cheaper towers. Ice Monkeys struggle because they can't do much against MOABs, can't hit whites, block multiple other towers from doing damage, and don't offer enough in return until the higher tiers.
@Alonzone3 ай бұрын
The Mermonkey is far from bad. The main problem is none of the 3rd tiers are game changers for how expensive they are.
@scantron1835Ай бұрын
Bottom path 3rd tier is absolutely a game changer. Depending on your strat it’s one of the best stall options available
@kai83673 ай бұрын
These votes say a lot about the average skill level of people in this game
@LoominousShroominous3 ай бұрын
lol right
@nicjoy44073 ай бұрын
I think an interesting idea would be to exclusively use the "worst" of the 5th tiers for each tower and try and best chimps with it. I do think that the most reliable towers "worst" crosspath would be any of the wizards, plasma monkey fan club (not really the worst of the darts, but people really hate that tower) and whichever of the glues that would be voted the worst (I honestly am not 100% sure what the community would vote, but I'd say solver. 3rd and 4th tier were buffed like crazy but solver itself was nerfed last update).
@Hollowsoul-j1k3 ай бұрын
I always start the game with a 4-0-2 dart monkey, it is criminally underused
@Btd6permaspikes3 ай бұрын
its over used 4-2-0 objectively better
@xyrkzes2 ай бұрын
I prefer a 0-2-4 dart monkey usually.
@oogabooga12282 ай бұрын
0-0-0 is king
@Aeroreido3 ай бұрын
If anything, this was a Great Advertisement for the top path dart monkey. I really started appreciating them in dark dungeons, this little fella was holding a lane pretty much on his own.
@kingcalcium20323 ай бұрын
Yall the beast handler can be goated if u know how to use it. A few days ago I got to round 209 on chimps mode with a middle path beast handler as my main dps
@Rexblazes3 ай бұрын
There was a challenge where I had to Beat 50 BADS and I only used Gigasaur and Glaive Lord and won. I was stuck on it for a while
@S0meCrazyIdiot3 ай бұрын
Yes, every tower can be good if you know how and when to use it, the main reason people believe that BH is ranked as one of the worst is due to the learning curve and micro/planning that needs to go into the tower for a new player to be able to comfortably use them.
@LoominousShroominous3 ай бұрын
Max level giga moment
@ForzaWiz112 ай бұрын
All tier 5s best are the best at taking down Moab’s. Shark pulls down fortified BAds and bird nothing can get past it besides BADs
@Rahzma3 ай бұрын
Something fun is bottom path Mermonkey with bottom path Beast Handler. Especially spreading low level BH through the map and merging them to the big one. They share radius so you can make them reach the entire map. Same with the top path. Sure you'll have to move it constantly, but you're not stuck in the one spot for your heavy hitter.
@Remyjor3 ай бұрын
I always have and always will praise the BH. in contested territory hes in almost every single lowest tiers and you can reach round 50 with just a 024 and even a 014 on almost all maps(except some advancced/expert). brother is OP fr
@ilovecandy39653 ай бұрын
This is just a speculation, but I think the reason that people vote for dart monkey as one of the “worst towers” in BTD6 isn’t necessarily because it’s actually bad, but rather because of the fact that usually they are in the late game and especially late, late game outclassed by other towers, while it’s true that they’re the reason why a lot of CHIMPS runs are even possible in the early game, and I don’t think there’s truly any tower in the game that’s “bad” in Bloons, but not counting the early game, you usually won’t use dart monkeys (even their 5 tiers) in the late game when you have other options that might be exorbitant but significantly outclass (in terms of how versatile they are) the tier 5 monkeys, such as a M.A.D for blimps, Sky Shredder for global damage, Super Glue for stalling, and vice versa, I’m not saying that they’re completely useless and are not useable in the late game, but they are usually better options. And before we consider the dart monkey paragon, as powerful as it is, it’s price makes it not applicable in most scenarios unless you’re farming hard, doing bosses, or going into freeplay, outside of those three, I can’t think of any scenario where it’s affordable compare to other options that are also pretty strong, especially when buffed, yet cheaper, again, all of this is just speculation.
@carlosemilio3853 ай бұрын
I'll start a riot if people genuinely think Mermonkey is bad.
@StarBeam5003 ай бұрын
Yea, early rounds was my main reason for voting ice monkey here. I think it could use 2 main buffs. First would be an upgrade for "thin ice" so that any tower can pop the frozen bloons. I'm not sure which upgrade it would go with, but I reckon one of the first 2 tiers of the top path. Second would be that any bloons popped while frozen take +1 damage. It's a typical ice based mechanic that I feel like helps the early game quite a bit, but probably doesn't help much in the late game, which is better because high tier ice monkeys are pretty good.
@dustinwhite38003 ай бұрын
And I didn’t vote for dart monkey because I think they are one of the best AT WHAT THEY ARE MADE FOR. They are early game towers and are the best at it.
@typhoonzach21023 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t think any tower is bad, it’s mainly just the tier 5’s that can be called out imo
@Elsmeusousonmoltgrossos2 ай бұрын
Ice monkey is very bad overall
@typhoonzach21022 ай бұрын
@ super brittle can be a nice buff for towers, absolute zero is very nice support for slowing down moabs, and ice impale is the ultimate ddt counter
@SlipTheRacc3 ай бұрын
Honestly I feel like if the ice tower had a noticeable range increase, it would be seen as more viable. Imo, the ice tower's tiny range just feels so outdated with the maps we have and other tower's range. Even when it first came out, the range was always a problem
@EarnestEdwinEarnerThe3rd3 ай бұрын
if you need a wiki to understand a tower, it should be less complicated
@grandruby53433 ай бұрын
Dart: Either everyone voted ironically because haha dart monkey, or they let their bias be too strong, because going blow for blow, up until tier 4, I much rather have any of the Dart Monkey cross paths against the Ace, with exception to Neva Miss + Alch, but that’s not a fair comparison because Alch can damn near make any tower viable. Bomb: It went against three of the best towers in the game. It got some time to shine with Middle path Tier 5 being good against Blastapopulus, but there’s no way in good faith you can’t vote Bomb being the worst out of the 4. Ice: It’s stuck being a support tower and can’t really be a true main DPS, while the Ninja, Engi, and Sniper all have cross paths that can be main DPS, and in the case of the Engi, only has one bad crosspath exclusively for CHIMPS. Mermonkey: Either people *really* enjoy using the Dartling and Heli, or people just let their bias from BTD5 kick in. Yeah sure Middle Path is too expensive and the almost every path except middle tier 4 and 5 can’t pop leads, but everything else is fantastic. Great support in top and bottom paths, and can enable unique strategies, especially in CHIMPS. Beast handler: It also didn’t get much of a fair shake going against Super, Spike, and the Tac, but also it’s because it’s a bit more cumbersome to make full use out of, despite Condor being excellent, and the other two paths being viable. So if you want to make the argument 3/5 are 100% valid, but in the case of the Dart and Mermonkey? They’re only there because of people not valuing *all* aspects of it, or in case of dart monkey, the meme of it all.
@phancanedoo0133 ай бұрын
I feel that it's important to mention that the bottom path of the bomb tower doesn't make the explosion pop black bloons, but has the frags to that kind of damage. If you were to hit a black bloon directly with the frag bombs, you won't pop it unless it's indirect enough for a frag to hit the layer. I have lost bomb-focused CHIMPS runs to that detail.
@wypmangames2 ай бұрын
the main reason people voted mermonkey is that it got an unfair poll where all other options were better, i think its "least good" rather then straight up bad/worst
@kery_51313 ай бұрын
putting beast handler on this list is the worst shortcoming democracy has ever had.
@silentchips13793 ай бұрын
I mean idk a tower I would say is worse, it’s just not as good as others.
@ratmanthemusician3 ай бұрын
Personally Ik its good I just dont have fun using it is all
@Khetomi13 ай бұрын
@@silentchips1379 It's only as good as the person using it, its a top 3 tower for expert chimps players
@lawrencemalone19003 ай бұрын
@@Khetomi1not even chimps it’s legit the strongest towers along side mermonkey right behind the super monkey and 0-0-5 plane only. Posiden absolutely SHREDS Bloons like a tier 1 paragon when he activated his ability and literally every beast handlers path can pretty much solo past round 100 from being slightly boosted alone
@silentchips13793 ай бұрын
@@Khetomi1 I guess I’ve not really tried to use it ever because it’s just so weird and different compared to other towers. I’ve just never thought to myself “mm a beast handler would be good here”
@thebeard82923 ай бұрын
Honestly the only change I'd make to the beast handler is just make it act like the 2 0 0 sub - let the beasts run wild so long as they are in range of their respective handlers
@therumblefish58113 ай бұрын
I thought it was crazy that beast handler was so high on the poll. Like sure they're a bit complicated to use *optimally*, but imo it's not that complicated to get multiple of the same tower and connect them all to the main one you want. I think part of it was that the other options on that poll were all really strong towers, and beast handler was just the worst out of the options. I think it'd be cool to see a full ranking of all towers on the same list, because I think things would be much different.
@davidvandersterre3 ай бұрын
I think people aren't experienced enough with the newer towers and therefore think those suck. They (as you said) have to adapt to new mechanics but don't want to.
@EtheE3 ай бұрын
Personally the reason I don't like beast handlers is they feel too powerful in a way that isn't fun. They're complicated and that make things worse, but they feel like they either just delete every bloon in one hit or do nothing with very little in between. There's not really much room for them to work with other towers or synergize with other towers. As for the meremonkey, I like them but the middle path having so many silly damage type weaknesses even as a ~80k 5th tier straight up disqualifies it as a path I'll ever use. The leaves the support paths as the only options, which makes its a very weird support tower that offers mid buffs and mid damage at a very short range. They're fun but really difficult to make work compared to other towers.
@btd6k1ng943 ай бұрын
This don't look like the worst towers, but hardest to use towers.
@FourthRanger3 ай бұрын
Moral of the story: Bad towers are only bad because NK nerfs them into oblivion.
@lawrencemalone19003 ай бұрын
None of the towers shown are bad. Ninja, Boom, Tack SHOOTER and the shitty sub are the worst by far.
@ryankasch55613 ай бұрын
As a bloons player since the release of btd3 back when I was in like second grade, my issue with beast handler is just that without going to videos I had no idea it was supposed to be micro'd. No other tower in the 16 years I've played this series has had as much going on. I'm not a particularly good player, but I'm also someone who's black bordered every beginner map, and so I doubt that there aren't a large portion of the fanbase who are worse than me. The issue I have with the mermonkey is just I haven't played with it much. I recently got back into playing the game for the first time since early 2022 and haven't learned how to play with it, and it seemed a bit weird at first with the water range thing. I have no issue with any of the other towers in the video, as I use them all quite often.
@DevilCat193 ай бұрын
They tell you in the story/challemge that’s required to unlock it… it’s also a big point in the menu for it…
@ryankasch55612 ай бұрын
@@DevilCat19 Nothing required to unlock them for PC other than popping a million bloons, so I don't know what story you're talking about.
@DevilCat192 ай бұрын
@ oh, well on mobile (which is what I play on) there is a required story which shows you about the beast handler and the merging. I didn’t know that you didn’t have to do that on PC. Sorry about that.
@FlandPark3 ай бұрын
I think the issue with dart monkey was that on the voting list it was just the weakest tower, but it's not a bad tower. Mermonkey though? No idea why they were voted as the worst.
@thebluknight3 ай бұрын
Honestly I think the issue with beast handler is that it's so expensive even for the great power the powered up beasts have, as for mermonkey I have no idea what people don't like about it I think it fits into the roster absolutely fine
@unidentifiedmogwai13212 ай бұрын
One of my fav strats at the moment is top path mermonkey and buffed tack zone combo, nice and cheap and when combined with a stalling tower is a pretty easy win. Surprisingly mermonkey ends up almost matching tack zone in pops when placed down right
@brendantoomey84753 ай бұрын
Dang SJB, I knew what you were gonna do with the Ice and Dart early game before you did! Love your content as always!
@jasonchiu2723 ай бұрын
Dart monkey is like the hallmark of BTD games, and it is literally a necessary tower in BTD 6 for difficult maps. What is bro doing here in the list?
@dustinwhite38003 ай бұрын
I feel like the 5th tier beast handlers are too expensive to make good. The upgrades themselves are kind of better then other tower upgrades but to max them out you need multiple so it’s just not worth it most of the time
@yeez132 ай бұрын
I finally found out how great each of the Beast Handler Tier 5 Towers were in a CHIMPS Run today and needless to say…you either fully buy in and max out each of their Attacks w/ lots of Merging or suffer a ☠️ of 1000 cuts 🤷🏽♂️ I was able to get pretty far with Maxed Out Tier 5 Beast Towers + 4 of each Tier 4 Tower also Maxed out but I really had to let Benjamin & the IMF/Moneynomics towers do the hard work of keeping me from going into the red the entire time. The Gigantosaur on its own was incredible for DDTs and the various T-Rexes intercepting w/ their own Stomps + the Orcas & Super Whale made everything less stressful on full speed. Even that Tier 5 Bird was going HAM on Boss Blimps before I had get a bit more serious and get my usual 0-5-2 + 5x 0-5-4 + 50 free Dart Monkey towers from the Money Village after so many rounds to pick up the slack. The Plasma Money Fan Club is truly underestimated if only because you need A LOT OF DART MONKEYS to get it to really work how you want it, for the price + the free Dart Monkeys every round? Worth every penny. In my experience, the worst tower currently is probably the 0-5-2 Glue Monkey imo since the Glue Strike Ability is awful for MOABs even for others Bloons unless you somehow got it before Round 61 and got plenty of mileage out of it
@oklywright88862 ай бұрын
It’s nearly impossible to lose on an easy/medium map if you have any experience in btd6. You should do these videos on the 3rd & 4th tier maps more often.
@pyro66983 ай бұрын
now that i think of it, bomb is probably the worst
@christophbrunner12763 ай бұрын
Calling the meremonkey a glorified bloon chipper is crazy
@LoominousShroominous3 ай бұрын
…that’s what its bottom path is though
@gammagalaxy81033 ай бұрын
I voted Mermonkey as the worst in that poll, not because I think it’s a bad tower (bottom path is a staple for me), but because the other options - Dartling, Copter, and Druid - are all extremely powerful.
@nicolaszan18453 ай бұрын
Mermonkey is definitely stronger than Helicopter. And honestly, you can maje an argument it is better than Druid.
@writer57903 ай бұрын
@@nicolaszan1845You can make that argument but you would probably be wrong. Druid is just so much popping power.
@theholyknight25813 ай бұрын
@@writer5790mermonkey is way more versatile then the Druid after the middle path nerfs. And the mermonkey has way better stall and cheaper popping power.
@writer57903 ай бұрын
@@theholyknight2581Mermonkey utility is pretty great but it's popping power is really weak early game. It's difficult to start with a mermonkey. Late game, top path druid is the best stall in the game but a lot more expensive.
@Apricot_Axolotl3 ай бұрын
@@writer5790I would argue Blooncrush is better stall
@lawrencemalone19003 ай бұрын
It’s crazy because it’s already confirmed beast handlers are stronger than every tower at tier 5 except the super monkeys and maybe the 0-0-5 plane
@StarScapesOG3 ай бұрын
Fun fact that I just learned: if you are strapped on space and want a T5 beast handler, you can sell all the non T5 handler! It's still decent, actually. Solo's 6 reinforced BAD at level 100 difficulty even at 36/132. Edit: STILL absurdly expensive.
@kulrigalestout2 ай бұрын
I like the Beast Handler a lot, but it's also the tower that angers me the most. You need to spam them and upgrade them a lot, similar to the Avatar of Wrath Druid or Shinobi Ninja. But you also need to merge them. When, where, and why? Is it better to have four individual Raptors, or one maxed out Raptor? What about two merged Raptors at half of their max power? Why would you do that when the 5th tier requires you to merge four towers into one? What does Beast Power even mean? The merging mechanic, as it stands, is why BH is an obtuse tower to use. Especially since you can't unmerge them, it makes it so that the only way to correct a mistake is to sell and rebuy the tower which isn't even possible in all game modes. So you're either losing 30% of the money spent on any towers you merged wrong, or in the case of CHIMPS mode you're just stuck with the wrong tower and that could cost you the entire game. That makes them basically unusable in CT or any challenge run. When you need to solve the map in the fewest tiers, or for the lowest cost, or in the lowest time, you can't spam weak towers, you can't buy expensive upgrades, and you can't rely on micro while the screen is flooded with bloons from multiple rounds. Beast handlers are weak unless you spend a lot of money on them and they require micro to get the most out of them (good luck merging the right ones under pressure, too). NK doesn't really tell us much about the bloons or the towers in-game. While for most towers that's frustrating for nerds but okay in general, in the case of BH it's frustrating in general and not okay at all. I can eventually remember what variations of "easily devastates most types of bloon" means for the towers which feature that phrase, even when for X-Bow Master it includes Lead but for Lord of the Abyss it does not. But when situations arise in which a 31/64 T-Rex is objectively better than a 32/64 due to shenanigans in how bloon baby spawning happens, the greater complexity of how the tower interacts with bloons demands clear information and we just get told "huge jaw and sharp teeth deal a ton of damage" instead.
@wypmangames2 ай бұрын
i felt physical pain when you put the round 9 mermonkey under the water instead of in it, the boost they get from water can be a run saver
@Btd6permaspikes3 ай бұрын
Justice for beast handler!
@beenajain58152 ай бұрын
4 Emperors Of The Sea
@Xiao__Ling2 ай бұрын
yall wildin, mermonkey bottom and top path are so useful for support and the middle path (specifically a 0-5-2) is so goated when god boosted
@chickenz26953 ай бұрын
what I learned today: - juggernaut demolishes straight lines and ceramics with surprisingly good popping power - using double symphonic resonances is very good if you can deal with the ZOMGs, especially with orca combo - orca has really good MOAB damage - 1-0-5 ice monkey isn't as bad as I thought
@karlbergman56782 ай бұрын
I think beast handler is more obnoxious than complicated. Theres no basically no benefit to cross-pathing and the merge mechanic is just unnecessary and
@HGC-i-think2 ай бұрын
How is the merge mechanic unnecessary and why's not having crosspath benefit Is a problem at all?
@karlbergman56782 ай бұрын
@@HGC-i-think Thank you for asking! It's always fun to discuss game design and I'll take any excuse to talk about it. First off, the crosspath issue. The fact that crosspathing doesn't really do anything for the Beast Handler is inconsistent with how every other monkey in the game works. This inconsistency can confuse newer players and disrupts the intuitive design of the game. But more importantly, crosspathing practically multiplies the number of towers in the game. For every normal tower, there are 64 combinations of upgrades, all unique and useful in their own way. Because crosspathing isn't functional for the beast handler, it becomes a lot less versatile and lacks the depth that other towers have. The problem with the merge mechanic is that it's just upgrading with extra steps. Instead of just clicking one button to upgrades you have to place multiple beast handlers, upgrade them individually, and then merge for the same effect as a normal upgrade. This system only serves to make it more obnoxious, concealing the true cost of the tower, forcing you to manually add the cost of every single beast handler to get the true cost, AND if you want the optimal way of evolving your beasts you have to do even more math, making it even more obnoxious and beginner un-friendly. On top of that, the merge mechanic eats into the monkey limit, making it more frustrating All of this serves to make the Beast Handler, in my opinion, the most obnoxious tower in the game.
@HGC-i-think2 ай бұрын
@@karlbergman5678 Alright then. Personally, I don't see how Beast Handler not having any crosspath benefits Is really any an issue, I don't see how Beast Handler's main beast not being able having benefits from crosspathing lacks Versatility, even then, crosspathing Beast Handler can actually make some interesting early and even midgame. I don't get what you mean by "merge of the same effect". Not only they can attack faster and do more damage, but they also have more range. And beast handler requires just basic math, it's not that complex at all, if you want to get a max tier 3 and 4, you just only merge tier 3s to them and that's it. Buying a max merged Orca and Trex Is hardly as different as getting a tier 5 tbh, but you can get a max merged tier 4 before round 80, so Beast Handler Is much faster to setup compared to other towers. Yeah, maybe difficult for new player but not as much for experience players and as one, Beast Handler Is far from being the most obnoxious tower in BTD6 imo. Anyways I respect your opinion.
@homeskol2 ай бұрын
Beast handler has 2 big problems, it's also extremely expensive. If I go that route then I'll just go plane or spike factory, there's a lot of better / cheaper alternatives
@Redman18943 ай бұрын
Triple shot dart is good because it is very cheap and pretty effective at its job early game
@lordreptilian35553 ай бұрын
I like the little beasthandler in the corner that got forgotten about.
@SoupIGuess3133 ай бұрын
The fact a lot of people voted on these exact towers (except beast handler) makes me feel like I'm playing this game wrong
@itzbruci12223 ай бұрын
Let’s go! New SJB vid to watch when I get home from school
@Rexblazes3 ай бұрын
I genuinely have no clue why people hate the beast handler. Like I’m trying to see something bad about it and I just can’t. Every time I use it, it has some of the most pop compared to most of my towers
@nicjoy44073 ай бұрын
Just unfun to use really. The merge mechanic just doesn't fit the game. Also each path has a ton of stats, if you look at the patch notes it looks like 10 things are changed per update. I truly don't know if it is currently good or bad, I just know I hate using it and it's weirdly complicated.
@theholyknight25813 ай бұрын
I’ve never understood why people call it complicated, merge for it to grow stronger I mean it seems pretty simplen
@nicjoy44073 ай бұрын
@ It's a lot more complicated than that to use well. You need to know the best tiers to boost it with (do I buy a bunch of 2nd tiers? 3rd? 4th?) merge them all onto the same tower, it's just a clunky system. I can understand it, I just don't care enough to interact with it, but none of my friends understand it.
@2inchWonder3 ай бұрын
@@nicjoy4407t3 is the best to use as merge resource for price efficiency For t4 condor, your important degrees are 17 (now carries 2 bfbs/ddts) and 41 (3 bfbs and much faster flight) poukai is very good but usually not black border friendly. t4 orca is incredibly good too and you should try max out to d64 (using tier 3s) then give it an overclock. Stalls like resonance and condor pair well with orca too, due to its downtime between thrashes.
@sammyhorace75233 ай бұрын
@@theholyknight2581I agree it's not the it's not this Tower is complicated it's just how much investment you have to do to order to make this Tower work.
@joneszzyy28672 ай бұрын
Bro send us a new video, we need more SJB pleaseeeee!
@Gatorboy56783 ай бұрын
Nonononononoonnononono. No. Mermonkey is genuinely one of the best. Y’all are actually crazy. See a therapist.
@mattwhitt13 ай бұрын
I think the bomb tower is the only 'bad' tower in the game. Like you said, early game ice can actually hurt more than it helps but 4xx ice and xx5 ice are both extremely good towers with the middle path having its uses as well. Dart monkeys, beast handlers and mermonkeys are all good towers. Only issue with dart is they fall of mid-game but they are strong towers to start with (and several chimps maps literally need them). Like you mentioned, beast handlers are very confusing and not rewarding feeling to use as you dump money into a single tower that is probably getting stronger but they can be some of the best towers in the game. Mermonkeys I feel got voted the worst because they're new and because of how you handled voting for towers, top and bottom path mermonkeys are both very good and unique (middle path is eh). Bomb towers though. I can't think of a bomb tower use case that another tower wouldn't do just as good if not better. Top path bomb towers are actually pretty good imo but expensive and 9/10 times relentless glue is just as good as a 4xx bomb. 5xx bomb is a good tower for rounds like 98 but I feel they are overshadowed by their price and can make rounds last much longer which can be annoying (and a 5xx druid is probably just better).
@Akf-b2j2 ай бұрын
I have an ungodly amount of hate towards the beast handler
@BIGSTACK403 ай бұрын
dart monkey is literally essential to every chimps start in the game and it also has a ton of value for its price
@thebigbean87833 ай бұрын
I was just watching an old one of these yesterday. Pretty funny
@Volron2652 ай бұрын
I think some people may not like mermonkey because of races. "Oh, I wonder what the strategy is this week?" Abyssal Warrior. "Oh, I wonder what this new map will do for the race?" Abyssal Warrior. "New event. Let's see what's up with races." Abyssal Warrior. Time after time after time after time.
@dakotacornish66163 ай бұрын
to be honest dart losing is WILD a lot of things in this game wouldn't be possible like a lot of chimps runs and it would make boss's harder but is is also pretty weak beside those uses. the bomb shooter is PERFECTLY understandable legit i never use that thing it sucks the top path has one of the worst build ups in the game going from a cheap weak bloon stun to one of the most expensive 5th tiers in the game the middle path is only good against moabs and the bottom path suffers from the 5th tier being build around losing lives something you can't do in the late game most of the time legit nobody uses bomb unless they need an "oh god i forgot leads came this round" or there using striker legit bomb is only really ever the best choice if you use striker. ice is really good but it got paired against very powerful towers like SNIPER especially along with the ninja and the engi. the mermonkey also got pared against very good towers darting and druid especially and heli is assisted by the semi newly added rosa. the beast handler while good is hard to use plus he got pared against good towers like the spike factory the infamous tower for destroying bads the flashy and strong super monkey aka what casual and veteran players use to sherd the late game. and tack with all 3 paths being good ones. over all most of the towers voted last had a huge flaw while the other towers not voted were more well rounded. dart monkey is almost never used beside the first couple rounds in chimps games and doesn't build into much beside maybe an ultra juggernaut if the map works for it. the bomb shooter has no camo and relay's on a hero to be any good. the ice monkey while very good late game suffers from a poor early to mid game. the mermonkey is a new tower people haven't quite gotten use to him plus he had some of the most well liked towers against him. and the beast handler is generally viewed as either weak or overly complex compared to options that do the same thing
@traplegend50653 ай бұрын
Beast handler is crazy. Dart also, but understandable, your average player doesnt do hard chimps runs
@mitchellwilley72082 ай бұрын
5-0-2 ice tower is actually really good, increased damage by all units that attack frozen targets seems op to me? add in that the ice tower can strip camo and lead.
@CrimsonReapa3 ай бұрын
mer monkey on it's own is whatever but bottom path mermonkey paired with glaive lord is still a nasty combo even after the nerfs to the combo.
@jacobthekirby3 ай бұрын
Hear me out. Take away the merge option for Beat handler and instead of murging it. Make it into a lvl up type of mechanic. Where it has this bar and the more it pops baloon the bar raises. Kinda like The Heros.
@ItsPotentiallyCharlie3 ай бұрын
I don't think any of these towers are bad, to be honest. Admittedly, I don't use the Beast Handler because I think it's overdesigned and clunky, but the Mermonkey in particular has gotten me a black border on several maps just because it has so much good utility. I use the cannon probably more than I should just because moab elims are a pretty cheap way to stall for time while you try to put something more powerful out on the field, but I do wonder if it's not wasted money. Ice tower uh, I wish I could say more for, but I just don't use a lot of strategies where ice monkeys really make sense. So worst might not be the right way to frame this so much as 'least popular,' though the polls being so limited kind of results in a list that might not even reflect least popular. 4-0-2 dart monkey deals with everything aside from moab class bloons and I use it a lot.
@wypmangames2 ай бұрын
i wonder if a mermonkey start on dark castle is worth trying at their lowered starting cost, maybe sub-dart into mermoney?
@maxthecreature46743 ай бұрын
The voting was very limited, you cant just make us choose between 4 decent towers and then call them the worst towers
@thehobbs78492 ай бұрын
love these videos, hopefully it sparks some buffs!
@EtheE3 ай бұрын
SJB put beast handlers against super, tack and spike factory and acted surprised when everyone picked it as the worst. Don't get me wrong its a bad tower, but you put them against a very strong lineup, many towers would lose in that situation.
@aguyontheinternet-n8p3 ай бұрын
The beasthandler is acctually the 3rd most expensive tower on average for t5s (only including the minimal beasts required), at just over 100.000 on average its only beaten by bananafarm and supermonke. The earlygame is pretty good and the midgame is great, but the early lategame is terrible due to the high price. In the mid lategame(r100-140) is amazing as you can afford the t5s, but in the latelategame(r140-200) and ultralategame it falls off
@aguyontheinternet-n8p2 ай бұрын
@noobifyedplayer9445 yes, beatshandler is 105.093 on average, while the farm is 110.683 on average
@Enbotazo3 ай бұрын
"Worst Towers in BTD6!!" *looks inside* Medium broken tower, 2 pretty solid towers and Beast handler
@Vinchenzo513 ай бұрын
"You can't win by spamming 25 juggernauts", sounds like a challenge, superbuffed jug spam next vid lol
@tbuck456Ай бұрын
This inspired me to try i like beast handler just got to round 200 on chimps with megladon getting most the pops and all pops till almost 160
@tbuck456Ай бұрын
If I know how would add pic for proof
@xyrkzes2 ай бұрын
Honestly the only tower I think deserves to be in this list is the bomb tower. There’s probably some pro players that will tell me otherwise but I’ve never found it that useful.
@mattsteckel33863 ай бұрын
It’s funny that’s orca insta kills 97 but p lord kills it even quicker for half the price lmao
@SephoraBloons2 ай бұрын
We miss your videos!
@SeisoYabai3 ай бұрын
17:00 I never thought about it, but yeah, why is Mermonkey stall okay but Bloonchipper wasnt?
@notfis22412 ай бұрын
As a returning player, I like all of these but bomb. I have a deep hatred for the bottom path.
@greysonshade14892 ай бұрын
I see a lot of flak for the dart monkey pick here. I dont think its unjustified, but looking at the poll that created this put it up against ace, glue, and wizard. I could reasonably see some people putting all 4 of these in their top 5 towers. The dart monkey isnt bad, it just had super stiff competition.
@greysonshade14892 ай бұрын
I also would like to mention the beast master. Im sure for some people its the complexity and micro that makes it unattractive. But for many including myself, the problem with beast master is it dominates the strategy. Beast master requires that you build too many other beast masters so you cant build other things. Its choosing between beast master or literally the rest of the towers.
@iceicicle30463 ай бұрын
Love how beast handlers on here despite two of their tier 5s being in the top tiers of the index list
@Aagames_3 ай бұрын
the tier lists rank based on tier 3-5, they're mostly ranked that high bc of condor and orca, not the t5's. still, beast handler gets lots of needless hate bc it's "complicated" and most ppl play easy maps where you don't need to use them.
@silver777ever2 ай бұрын
Dude, the Beast Handler is very OP, but has their cost.
@lotatwoz53303 ай бұрын
The problem with the beast handler isn't that he is complicated but rather that the prices are too expensive because you need 4 4th tears before getting a 5th tear. A 500 beast handler costs over 100,000 and is good, but you still need more beast power for a max 500
@JoelTheParrot3 ай бұрын
then you must hate the super monkey even more since they're even more expensive
@lotatwoz53303 ай бұрын
@JoelTheParrot yes, but they are good for their price as 3 and 4th tears. Beast handlers can't carry the same weight for the same price as a 240 or a 203 or a 3xx Super monkey.
@JoelTheParrot3 ай бұрын
@@lotatwoz5330 beast handler is good for their price at every tier depending on if it's earlygame, midgame, or lategame.
@flopps10513 ай бұрын
Mermonkey top path and bottom path are really good. Middle path sucks because after the White bloon change, it can't do anything without a MIB. Another issue is that base mermonkey itself really really sucks. It has 2 pierce with a slow fire rate with the trade off that its attacks create an explosion around it that... don't really do anything because there aren't many waves with grouped bloons at the start of the game. It gets even worse because the Mermonkey's upgrades don't help it. Top path is good because attack speed is always nice, but that attack is stil a 2 pierce 2 damage attack. Middle path only increases the pierce of the explosion it makes which is negligible, and 020 freezes bloons for... 0.5 seconds. And then 030 is 2100, which means you'll never be able to get it in time because the 020 mermonkey is that bad. Compare it to 020 wizard, which can basically defend up until the moab with a little bit of support. 001 is nice for the camo, and 002 is nice for the like, 5% range increase. For 002 to be effective you need to spend a lot to get a lot of range. And this isn't helpful because, again, base mermonkey sucks. Why would you want range for a tower that can't do damage? I hope they buff the base mermonkey so it's actually useable
@matthewmontes90362 ай бұрын
Gwen+ Supermonkey fan club and like a perma brew goes kinda nuts
@yeetyeetoof70063 ай бұрын
Dart and mermonkey on this list is ACTUALLY criminal
@gudadada2 ай бұрын
Dart and ice are some of the most useful towers in the game lol
@theneocubed.26333 ай бұрын
Funny how dart is there as I used only dart+village for my first black border and it was fun
@DominicPorco-n4e3 ай бұрын
I was about to be outraged that dart monkey is on but not ice due to thumbnail but its here
@ethanos1873 ай бұрын
A 050 bomb ability spam can destroy the BAD layer by itself. It would have made the kill easier.