Lamelo came into the league and got the Nickname name Melo and Carmelo said it’s cool. This could’ve been so simple. Shaq let the media narrative effect how he thinks of Dwight.
@darrellgainer6966 Жыл бұрын
Exactly and you know what’s crazy it’s never the player who calls themselves that. They called him melo I remember people where hating on a high school lebron when it was sports illustrated that named him the chosen one or something like that. It wasn’t the players themselves. The media pushes these narratives more then anything else.
@baseupp12 Жыл бұрын
I mean the Melo nickname is a bit different it's a nickname based off their names and is just easier to say then their full names
@Sqeaky6969 Жыл бұрын
@@darrellgainer6966 lebron is different tho he leaned into it heavily and has a "chosen one" tattoo
@darrellgainer6966 Жыл бұрын
@@Sqeaky6969 and the problem is that people are starting this not the players themselves.
@Sqeaky6969 Жыл бұрын
@@darrellgainer6966 yeah but equally it is the players faults like in the case of shaq. Dwight was bouncing around the league and finally won 1 with the lakers and said nothing about shaq, enjoying winning then shaq talks about some dudes shouldn't talk or celebrate cus they're bums. then dwight is out of the league and enjoying life in taiwan and shaq is still talking shit about him unprovoked
@Alex-nh1hb Жыл бұрын
I always thought the name Superman fit Dwight better anyways to be honest. The comic-book like physique, the vertical, soaring through the air, just made sense. Shaq will always be the Big Diesel in my mind.
@blueshell2484 Жыл бұрын
Literally don’t know why shaq was glazing like that especially when I think Superman is better on Dwight
@DwayneIsKing Жыл бұрын
@@blueshell2484 it's legit like he was a kid playing "superheroes" and they are arguing "I'm Superman" "no I'M Superman". It was sad, petty, and just damn childish. Like bro you pushing 50, why does it even MATTER
@markjordan5478 Жыл бұрын
Hell shaq was more like hulk
@nesetans10 ай бұрын
great a description for Dwight.%100 I wish he was still on the court,his absence is felt in the NBA.
@MIKE_.3866 ай бұрын
P P😅 P@@blueshell2484
@justc1re617 Жыл бұрын
I ultimately think that the beef was caused by one player (Shaq) caring too much about the "superman" title and Dwight not caring enough. He didn't realize that it would piss off Shaq to the point that it did and by the time he did it was too late
@ItIsYouAreNotYour Жыл бұрын
He's the most sensitive, insecure big man ever.
@sesh517 Жыл бұрын
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour to this day!
@makesmartTROYces Жыл бұрын
@@ItIsYouAreNotYour *NBA player* never heard of a more insecure one
@flockaveli15 Жыл бұрын
I felt it at least started with the Nick name but over the years I don’t know it does seem like shaq is just disappointed Dwight never became what he probably felt he could’ve been which was a new age shaq. Instead Howard don’t really care that much about all that and didn’t care to improve his game and u think that’s where shaq started to turn it up to a level that borders on just hating and actually caring. Shaq definitely petty but I don’t think he’s malicious in intent and I think he really do just want to see guys do great
@DwayneIsKing Жыл бұрын
@@sesh517 😂😂😭 I immediately thought of the Bronze Bomber when yoy said that 💀💀
@DemiDarkoYT Жыл бұрын
Shaq easily, man’s been on Dwight’s tip for years for no reason.
@chosen2497 Жыл бұрын
I would too
@royjohnson7481 Жыл бұрын
dwight in this full video I just watch comes off as a shaq wannabe rip off. From the coach and superman is one thing but agents too
@Osiris1K Жыл бұрын
Ego
@kingshottah4429 Жыл бұрын
@@royjohnson7481 Who gives af he was trying to pay his respects but instead got shitted on
@kaize666 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it came off like Dwight was a fan and Shaq was mad that someone was being compared to him. Of course if someone is constantly trashing you, you will start to respond.
@DharkDemonBlade Жыл бұрын
For me what annoys me the most was after Dwight won a ring, Shaq mocked his interview after getting a ring and also later on a pod cast said that Dwight didn't "win" a ring as the one of the main guys of the team and therefore it doesn't compare to a real ring.
@justc1re617 Жыл бұрын
That T-Mac and Dwight team up is a forgotten but legendary what if
@lakersyoungcoreareaveragep1639 Жыл бұрын
5 straight chips easy if both healthy
@justc1re617 Жыл бұрын
@@lakersyoungcoreareaveragep1639 idk about that but they definitely at least get one or two rings fs
@OnTh3Mov3 Жыл бұрын
@@lakersyoungcoreareaveragep1639 C’mon TMac never made it past the 1st round he ain’t winning no rings n def not no 5
@Flyc2 Жыл бұрын
@@OnTh3Mov3 man he ain’t even go make it to the playoffs if we be real
@justc1re617 Жыл бұрын
@@OnTh3Mov3 that magic team made the finals and were good playoff teams. It stands to reason with T-Mac they would have been significantly better especially if healthy
@youngkobe6645 Жыл бұрын
I feel really bad for Dwight bc he just gets bullied by the media he always seems like this happy guy who’s just pushing but deep down he’s really affected by this stuff and shaqs extreme insecurity
@bizzyrizzy4075 Жыл бұрын
Exactly since he didn’t deserve because he had a legit dominant prime
@youngkobe6645 Жыл бұрын
@@bizzyrizzy4075 he really did I would say he was a top 3-5 player in the league in his prime
@Bigedub10110 ай бұрын
@@bizzyrizzy4075exactly people wanna be mad he wasn't mean and all.
@Alex-nh1hb Жыл бұрын
Shaq declaring Giannis Superman in 2018 before the ring was crazy. Dwight was a lot more of a classic big-man than Giannis, and had accomplished more at that point in his career
@shanehazlett184 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t that his first MVP season though?
@Alex-nh1hb Жыл бұрын
@@shanehazlett184 No he wasn’t an MVP yet
@unlimitedz2.014 Жыл бұрын
@@shanehazlett184 nah not yet
@JT-km6th Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-nh1hb Nah you got that wrong. 5 years into Dwight's career he achieved some but not all of that. He was a 2 time all star, was due to get DPOY, rebound leader, 1 all NBA 1st team. You're inflating what Dwight had achieved 5 years into career (since we are talking about Giannis 5 years in).
@Alex-nh1hb Жыл бұрын
@@JT-km6th my bad, I thought that was more than 5 years into Giannis’s career, mixed up what year he got drafted
@DusoLL Жыл бұрын
shaq was losing sleep over the 09 finals. Bro didn’t want either of them to win 😭
@darthstarfire Жыл бұрын
Thats wild!!! Imagine your worst enemy winning or the other worst enemy
@parsifal40 Жыл бұрын
The funniest part is that Shaq is STILL taking shots at Dwight to this day
@deeznutz8320 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a 7'4 giant Millionaire loved around the world and still be that insecure. It should be illegal
@Thoughty3 Жыл бұрын
what shaq did to dwight is nothing compared to what he did to javale☠
@Augrills Жыл бұрын
JAVALE MCGEE
@smbenga2 Жыл бұрын
Javale’s situation is definitely close, but Dwight gets far more disrespected when you take into consideration how good he was. It’s no knock to to Javale, but I think the situation with Dwight ran way more deeply
@Bigedub10110 ай бұрын
@@smbenga2it was to point where it part of reason why hard for me take Shaq seriously cause he so insecure
@joeyBRADFORD3 Жыл бұрын
B Solz being wrong for 27 minutes
@drstaylit Жыл бұрын
cook
@DwayneIsKing Жыл бұрын
Bro faxxxxxx. Lmao I thought i was crazy for thinking that
@jerryspringer3343 Жыл бұрын
fr fr. dwight ain't even do anything wrong. he said he wasnt superman while saying he hoped he wasnt mad and he only was in the league for 4 years
@evolucien1309 Жыл бұрын
yup...shaq was just a bitch his whole career. got upset when penny started gettin love, needed to be center of attention when playin w kobe etc. Dude was always a bitch. Dwight was like 4 inches smaller than Shaq and at peak, was a more complete player. Could score, AND led the league in rebounding and blocks AND got dpoy several times. How many times did shaq (the biggest man in the game) lead in blocks, rebounds, or get dpoy? Yeah ZERO. The ONLY thing Shaq was better at was scoring. But total player...Dwight easily.
@joelgordon1100 Жыл бұрын
Dwight Howard was more so inspired by Soulja Boy than Shaq when it came to the Superman name. If you check the footage, he was always doing the dance. Dwight is from Atlanta. He was just supporting a fellow southerner.
@justc1re617 Жыл бұрын
Shaq with that mustache ain't "The Diesel" he's "The Petrol"
@seanbaby1060 Жыл бұрын
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@RemoWilliams1227 Жыл бұрын
Lol I think he was leaning into the honorary cop thing maybe. That's a total cop stache.
@Tempest1816 Жыл бұрын
It’s 2022 and Shaq still clowning Dwight. 😭
@woowalk5244 Жыл бұрын
“And Your washed” had me dying 😂
@jermaine2326 Жыл бұрын
Shaq’s offense is his defense
@BLee09 Жыл бұрын
Shaq shitted on Dwight for playing well in Taiwan lmfao.
@MichaelAruba Жыл бұрын
I can't blame Dwight for talking shit back. How many times did Shaq talk shit and Dwight brushed it off, joked about it, and tried to be respectful. At some point you gotta be like alright bro fuck you too then I guess
@anthonyfarrar564 Жыл бұрын
Just for the record Dwight came out and said he didn’t want to go to the lakers he wanted to go to Brooklyn. But they denied him and shipped him off to LA. And that’s where everything started to crumble tbh
@KxngKUDA Жыл бұрын
Most of Dwight's issues were strictly on the court, Shaq has had controversy on and off the court that somehow still connected and compounded on eachother. Whether it be his selfishness in Orlando, his lazy attitude in LA, or any time afterwards when some new center comes in and threatens his status. Nothing was the same after Dwight decided to call himself Superman
@user-lq3jw3ov8z Жыл бұрын
Y'all two are missing something: Shaq shit-talked Dwight for crying after winning the 2020 chip, bro said it on TV.
@aceofgames9162 Жыл бұрын
10:00 They actually turned into Shaq and Dwight a solid min there 😂
@tamsuskaralius835 Жыл бұрын
Soulz weird. Howard did nothing wrong, it was a case of Shaq being a child like he does a lot. Shaq started and continued the beef while Dwight mostly responding (not everytime) jokingly. It's not his fault Shaq loves to get in his feelings
@3DSDF Жыл бұрын
It’s like him and Sage are scared to call out Shaq. It’s even the same for the guy who did the video. It’s clear as day that Shaq started the whole mess and kept it going, and yet everyone wants to say that both guys are at fault.
@Bigedub10110 ай бұрын
@@3DSDFNailed it, Shaq is real childish like he is with ALOT OF CENTERS, and Shaq rode his Dwight tip the whole time
@georgeprchal3924 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to Dwight getting into the HOF just so we can see how well Shaq takes it.
@pamoon_ Жыл бұрын
I’ll say Shaq. Even though as a kid I looked up to Shaq the same way Deku looked up to All Might, getting older Shaq has shown insecurity issues and his laziness prevented him from being in the GOAT conversation. But when you criticize him, he brings up the 4 rings and MVPs. Shaq honestly ruined multiple center’s careers: JaVale McGee, Dwight Howard, etc. I’m just glad both of those centers have rings too. As a kid I cried during Kazaam’s ending. As an adult that movie was honestly boring and kind of…gross.
@issacbray1380 Жыл бұрын
good point but that my hero reference was corny as shit my boy💀🤝
@YaThat. Жыл бұрын
Bro used the reference from the most trash anime ever 🫵🤣
@TyBull Жыл бұрын
wouldn't be in the conversation either way
@blazinghen Жыл бұрын
Calling My Hero trash is craaaaaazy
@xenkokuo8588 Жыл бұрын
CORNY ASS comparison 💀
@dwadeisthegoat2020 Жыл бұрын
Shaq he sensitive as hell
@RemoWilliams1227 Жыл бұрын
True, maybe the most thin skinned of all.
@jamilantwi6678 Жыл бұрын
Congrats to sage for graduating.
@daguyz4744 Жыл бұрын
Dwight got a ring now so I guess he can sit in the seat🤣🤣
@AndreNoStacks Жыл бұрын
I lost it when shaq said Robin López...that's crazyyy 😭😭😭😭😭
@C41Ł-g2x Жыл бұрын
ayeeeee superman vs bizzaro superman
@19Butterman98 Жыл бұрын
Shaq is such a bigass baby lol
@JT-km6th Жыл бұрын
Shaq has foresight, he gave the Superman title to Giannis who is on track for a top 10 all time finish.
@xsjado_anon Жыл бұрын
Shaq with the moustache looks like Steve Harvey.
@hyabberhane Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking
@noxasterin8776 Жыл бұрын
Dwight went on Shannon sharps podcast and openly said he would like to clear-out the beef so I see this as Shaq being immature Imo
@joshmaril1136 Жыл бұрын
Love this series of “you will hate player after this” videos. Keep it up guys!
@glyle2504 Жыл бұрын
Shaq literally gave my team 3 chips-but dawg Shaq has only been embarrassing himself every time he talks about Dwight. It used to be just a weird thing but by the time Dwight finally won it was officially an obsession
@demorik6794 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know Tmac was still on orlando when the drafted Howard that's crazy they could've been a deadly duo.
@livinginadarkworld2808 Жыл бұрын
lol yeah tmac was aging and didn’t want to be a part of a rebuild so he went to team up with yao but they both kept getting injured and never worked out or doing anything good aside from tracy doing what he did in the last 30 seconds of that one game . it’s pretty comical when you think about it . tmac didn’t want to lose so he went to a team and was still losing while orlando was a perennial playoff team even making the finals .. you just know tracy was sick asf watching it
@alexiscando2068 Жыл бұрын
@@livinginadarkworld2808 the Rockets got out of the 1st round in 2009 I think with just basically 50% Yao Ming and they force the soon to be Champs Lakers to 7 that season... That was w/o TMac... It's crazy to think that had TMac been healthy and Yao Ming as well, they could have possibly beat the Lakers
@ishanshah4904 Жыл бұрын
Glad you reacted to a Secret Base video, y'all should check out more of their stuff like the untitled series or other beef history videos. So well crafted, really top notch NBA content.
@baseupp12 Жыл бұрын
T Max staying in Orlando would just be the same thing first round exits and injuries
@MR.__G Жыл бұрын
Naw ! With Dwight in the weak eastern conference, he definitely has more success. Prime Dwight is one of the greatest defender all time. Pair that up with one of the best scorers ever & they definitely have championship aspirations in the weak east.
@mahada7649 Жыл бұрын
This entire beef boils down to Shaq doing the Shaggy "are you challenging me" meme to a dude that looked up to him
@AceTheCap823 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think MJ would do the same with Kobe even if he never won becuz Kobe approached MJ personally and asked for tips. Not to mention MJ saw a lot of himself in Kobe mentally and play style wise
@demorik6794 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Howard seriously looked up to Shaq which is why he wore the superman Cape and looked at his hand after dunks but I think he was just kinda paying homage to shaq by doing those things.
@ianreed9638 Жыл бұрын
I think it's more of Soulja Boy song than Shaq.. coz you can hear it everywhere during that time..
@ianreed9638 Жыл бұрын
One proof of that is the dance he's doing..
@shieldceo8917 Жыл бұрын
Dwight wanted Brooklyn, he got lakers. He didn’t go looking to follow shaq but I think media narratives and a smart lakers ownership made it happen more than Dwight himself. The other parallel that no one talks about is Dwight has 6 kids to 5 mommas, like shaq’s situation also. 😂
@lilvader4588 Жыл бұрын
Y’all gotta watch the Ray Allen,Kobe beef that shit was actually crazy
@christurner2684 Жыл бұрын
Shaq is obviously an all time great but he's a hater and he's egotistical, and love the reactions btw Solz and Sage 💪❤🔥✨
@TheSaltBoiCometh Жыл бұрын
These beef history vids are gonna be a gold mine for y’all
@darcreave2683 Жыл бұрын
Y’all keep up the Secret Base reactions, I love this shit
@dio5731 Жыл бұрын
Shaq Paul definitely sells cars for a dealership in the same town he played college ball 😂😂
@georgeprchal3924 Жыл бұрын
Highschool administrator and amateur photographer.
@TrueSunGod101 Жыл бұрын
Bro why did Shaq have that Steve Harvey moustache bruh 💀💀💀💀💀
@ruminator35702 ай бұрын
Shaq has a beef with Bill Walton. Bill Walton tries to take the high road. Shaq has none of it. After Bill's passing he has nothing but praise for Bill Walton. Shaq has a beef with Kobe because Kobe wanted him to work out during the summer so he could be more dominant. Shaq wins one ring without Kobe and Kobe doubles him up without him. Nothing but love and respect after Kobe's loss. Shaq then gets his DC themed underoos twisted in a knot all because Dwight decided to use the gimmick to win the dunk contest. Shaq is petty.
@MikeHawkJuices Жыл бұрын
Shaq might be better than Dwight but was his offense his defense?
@ssj-rose4572 Жыл бұрын
Shaq acting like he was successful in Orlando
@UngiftedBaskettiBall Жыл бұрын
I left my keys inside the house just now smh
@kenjiNaga Жыл бұрын
Howard slick wanted to be shaq and he didn’t fill the shoes imagine if Kobe wasn’t balling like da kobe we know he would’ve been Howard to jordan😂
@jetsettech8804 Жыл бұрын
You are weirdly on shaq's tip for no reason. The dude was a jackass
@MrSlashblade Жыл бұрын
Do you know how many “Next Jordan’s” came? And how many times MJ didn’t care. I think a lot of his fans paint MJ as this intense almost dictator of a man just because the guy really liked basketball. Even if Kobe never won a chip ever, jordan didn’t care, he showed admiration to the guy when he was second fiddle to Shaq and coming off the bench.
@jasonspades7775 Жыл бұрын
Kobe ain't Jordan so he kinda was Howard.
@parkerfigueroa6682 Жыл бұрын
all i’m saying is that dwight got 3 DPOY and shaq got 0 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@MR.__G Жыл бұрын
Definitely the better defender but shaq is still the better player. Shaq is the only player to lead a 3 peat since jordan. It was very reminiscent of Jordan’s first 3 peat where it was just insanely dominant. Jordan avg 36 through his 1st 3 peat. Shaq avg 35.9 in his 3 peat. To be in any conversation with Jordan in the finals is impressive !
@TheAnimeDon Жыл бұрын
Nahhh calling him the Green Lantern is crazy😂😂😂
@IbNazty Жыл бұрын
That’s itachi analogy is hilarious 😭😂😂
@blackcurlmagicgrey-sloan8640 Жыл бұрын
Shaquille was calling himself superman before he won a title but Dwight couldn’t cus he hadn’t won one? FOH . they both got to finals in orlando and lost.
@rohanbhattacharjee7228 Жыл бұрын
10:50 what Solz fails to understand or even acknowledge that the entire time Dwight hadn't disrespected Shaq in any way shape or form, he paid tribute to him, respected him and appreciated him as a role model which is why Shaq acting the way he did is absolutely crazy
@chesgod062 Жыл бұрын
1:18 that dwight comment giving me 2018 when lebron left cleveland and colin sexton wanted him to stay and he will provide him good assistance as a rookie
@dio5731 Жыл бұрын
“The shoulders are HERE” 😭😂
@EC-ge2ll Жыл бұрын
“The spider web’s really spiderwebbing” Bsolz, 2022
@codyrm86 Жыл бұрын
Shaq said he was superman the media said dwight was
@IrvingDL506 Жыл бұрын
'I'm Shaq bruh, you're washed' LMFAO Sage wrong for that one
@kidflashiv Жыл бұрын
Dwight may have played a part but a lot of times it’s Shaq being insecure and petty.
@VO_Watcher Жыл бұрын
Shaq Paul definitely works for the general 😂
@parkerfigueroa6682 Жыл бұрын
shaq so insecure 😭 this man has been on dwight howard D his whole career
@NoFace2K Жыл бұрын
Itachi, sasuke reference was crazzzzyyyy
@theresidentteacher2438 Жыл бұрын
Why do I feel like "THESE TWO" listened to the latest hip-hop album and thought, "This is HOW cool people talk". BRO, BRO, BRO, BRO, BRO, BRO
@MR.__G Жыл бұрын
Lmao I wasn’t expecting to see Loaded Lux in this video 😅
@popo-up1nc Жыл бұрын
Daily dose of Solz n Sage
@bunzen0knatzen Жыл бұрын
This is like a war between the biggest fan and the biggest hater of all time
@540jade Жыл бұрын
Benjamin’s dog becomin my favorite character
@dobj_ericb Жыл бұрын
Robin Lopez and Andrew Bynum 😂😂😂🤣🤣
@MrThankman360Ай бұрын
Did Solz say “nomiker” for “moniker” on one of his bad take rants.
@Arn3z Жыл бұрын
Tmac with Howard woulda been insane
@dutchiethegr8455 Жыл бұрын
"WHO!"🤣🤣🤣🤣 IM DEAD
@anthonyhunter95 Жыл бұрын
“Noniker”😂😂😂
@sardeegaming Жыл бұрын
I’m on Dwight side 95% the other 5% is because i see where Shaq was coming from but Shaq has issues I can’t believe this beef is still going on
@christopleefulp5256 Жыл бұрын
Shaq, unlike Jordan, didn't know how to handle having someone look up to him. He should have mentored Dwight like Jordan did with Kobe.
@HighOnJalapenos Жыл бұрын
They have a Vince Carter Toronto Raptors beef video which is crazy good. Should check that out.
@CupFullaIsm7 Жыл бұрын
That boy sage ahead of the game with the wembanyama jersey. Mfs bouta be all over that in a few years👀
@jgrey4066 Жыл бұрын
Definitely Shaq I’m Ngl he’s been a hater ever since he retired
@royjohnson7481 Жыл бұрын
a hater yes but dwight basically a imposter or ripping off shaq in every single way from teams, coaches, agents
@jgrey4066 Жыл бұрын
@@royjohnson7481 true but he was gassing it also Shaq was holding rings over his head like Shaq could have won any of those rings alone Howard didn’t have as much help as Shaq did during his career
@freespace9315 Жыл бұрын
YESSSS YALL ARE DOING MORE SECRET BASE VIDS
@DJBlack-sv5he Жыл бұрын
Shaq played with Alferni, and the 2 and 3 best shooting guards! 🙌
@TheQuest145 Жыл бұрын
Man shaq gave the Superman name to Blake griffin too back in like 2012or 2013😂😂
@seanjameson._ Жыл бұрын
“Nomiker” lmao
@normstewart67-99 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link in description. High key.
@ianreed9638 Жыл бұрын
I think that Superman costume by Dwight were influenced by Soulja boy song than Shaq since you can hear it everywhere during that time..
@georgeedwards7418 Жыл бұрын
Dwight didn't help matters. Hiring Shaq's former agent was the final nail to the coffin. His career was too hypothetically parallel to Shaq's
@EndManMANn Жыл бұрын
Robin Lopez over Prime Dwight is crazy hating 😩😂
@metacommentary6791 Жыл бұрын
yo lil bro with the two fingers is wild
@95yazid Жыл бұрын
If the Dwight Sage fusion really happened Shaq wouldn't show his face on TV
@chidiebereiwe4680 Жыл бұрын
19:23 true hate 🤣🤣🤣
@levishelley2850 Жыл бұрын
The crowning Giannas as the new superman before a ring is crazy, but you can’t argue he’ll finish higher all time than Dwight. Real recognizes real?
@rankclimber3531 Жыл бұрын
them:roasting phonix shaq me: OMG IS THAT FUCKING YOUNG STEVE KERR
@marcus_jb Жыл бұрын
Idk how I feel about sage switching to the wemby jersey. Is his offense his defense?
@alexsmith3598 Жыл бұрын
Shaq been "where ya rings?" since before he was borned. Momma must have had issues lockin down a man or something.
@massaquov3304 Жыл бұрын
He called Chris Bosh the RuPaul of big men in article 10:51