You Will Never Guess What Happened While Towing a Trailer With My Jeep Wrangler Ecodiesel...

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Casey 250

Casey 250

Күн бұрын

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@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Hey all! Thanks for all the comments. Ill be replying soon. I was in the mountains of Idaho. Oh and the Jeep did the limp mode throttle thing several more times on the trip towing the trailer. Never did it once on my trip I'm on with out the trailer.
@alexanderardelean5001
@alexanderardelean5001 2 жыл бұрын
Replaced a pcm on a 21 JL eco diesel for your exact same issue
@griffusmc3228
@griffusmc3228 2 жыл бұрын
See if you can improve your cooling to help with the extra weight when you're towing like a trans cooler, or a performance programmer system like from banks if this going to be your normal tow rig. For the near future
@Escape.Idiocracy
@Escape.Idiocracy 2 жыл бұрын
Have you re-geared? 121/122*C is where the motor is supposed to derate due to oil temp. I think most know the diesel is limited by its cooling capacity- and unfortunately aside from a bypass oil filter setup, I haven’t seen a way to add an external air cooler for motor oil on this platform…. But back to gears- If you are on factory gears 3.73’s with the larger tires and added weight…. Just a thought 🤷🏽‍♂️ Thanks for sharing your adventures! You are living my dream traveling and wheeling! Edit Just hit around the 17 min mark and your face when talking gears! Looks like you are thinking the same thing!!
@LimitlessOverland
@LimitlessOverland 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like you all have been frequenting Washington a lot! Would be cool if you all do a route here in WA!
@jpdrummer86
@jpdrummer86 2 жыл бұрын
Why aren’t you re-geared? I get it that it has tons of torque being an eco diesel, but don’t you think that’s still a lot of low end stress that the CPU trips up, I mean you’re hauling a trailer on standard 3.73 gears ⚙️, if you had 4.88 gears ⚙️ that eco diesel would be a beast with that trailer.
@efibendor1
@efibendor1 2 жыл бұрын
I am towing 5500 lbs trailer with a gladiator eco diesel stock it’s 88f out and it goes up 6-7% grade hills with no issues at all. Absolute beast love it. Gas mileage is 20 mpg! towing
@efibendor1
@efibendor1 2 жыл бұрын
@@cdnjeepoverland eco diesel
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome man! I am only getting 20mpg with out a trailer and rtt.
@stevendouglas6593
@stevendouglas6593 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you’re monitoring Exhaust Gas Temperatures, but you should be. It is highly possible the Check Engine light and derating is due to dangerously high EGT’s. With a diesel, EGT’s can go sky high when under high load (eg going up a hill), in a high gear and maximum throttle. This is very dangerous and can damage the engine. When you’re towing, you really should use the manual function of the auto. Drop to a lower gear, keep the revs up and you should see the EGTs drop to a safe level.
@daniellavoie8379
@daniellavoie8379 2 жыл бұрын
I never leave on a trip without a $25 Bluetooth ODB2 Code reader. To be able to read the error code when the engine light comes on makes the experience less stressful.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
100% i have a scan tool in my jeep
@rickybobby1055
@rickybobby1055 2 жыл бұрын
Must be nice
@jasonvargas1010
@jasonvargas1010 2 жыл бұрын
I do the same. Recently was in Yellowstone and check engine light came on. Ended up being nothing after scanning.
@sherifx5122
@sherifx5122 2 жыл бұрын
I tow a 3k travel trailer and had similar issues. I jumped on all the chat groups etc. Making a long story short, with the different issues everyone was having, the fixes that have worked for me and many others are, an additional trans cooler with a fan, turning the traction control off while towing and Lucas oil stabilizer.... don't know why but with that combination I haven't had the issues for thousands of miles and many adventures.
@troutriver58
@troutriver58 2 жыл бұрын
can you provide reference on the trans cooler?
@sherifx5122
@sherifx5122 2 жыл бұрын
@@troutriver58 i installed an additional aftermarket trans cooler behind the grill at the front of the stock cooler and radiator. In front of that I installed a pusher fan with a switch in the cab. I spliced into the rubber transmission and routed it to the additional cooler. My temp stays at 170 almost all the time while towing and off roading. I use the fan while towing and off roading and on hot days. Mesure the available space you have in your desired location, they have many different sizes available.
@seanlee4ty
@seanlee4ty 2 жыл бұрын
I towed my Vintage Trailer works qtr 5x10 weighing 2200 lbs fully loaded with my ecodiesel through all of Oregon and Washington and averaged 20 mpg with the stock rubicon wheels and tires and a 1.5" falcon lift and shocks and I had no issues with it overheating. I did notice the transmission hunted for gears though. Great Video! Very informative, really making me think to stay with 33s if Im going to be towing a lot rather than doing 35s like I wanted.
@efibendor1
@efibendor1 2 жыл бұрын
I am keeping it stock as well. It’s best as overland/ tow rig. For rock crawling it would need to be modified to the extent that the diesel loose a lot of performance.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Ya i definitely can't guarantee the same experiences with larger tires. But thats why im here, to find limits!
@rickybobby1055
@rickybobby1055 2 жыл бұрын
Took my 01 xj stock on the rubicon had no problems so you should be ok.
@greghull3189
@greghull3189 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Casey. It’s not only entertaining but also beneficial for us Jeep fans when you test the limits of your eco-diesel and share the results and issues.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I am not easy on things so that we can all get good info.
@mike-pl8sn
@mike-pl8sn 2 жыл бұрын
Well I have to say watching the last couple of years of your eco diesel now I’ll stick with the 3.6 gas I’ve not had any problems yet knock on wood 69000 miles. Love you channel I learn a lot from you guys
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Next jeep is gas. A lot of gas.
@MrMolecular
@MrMolecular 2 жыл бұрын
NEVER Ketchup. Sour cream only. :)
@operation4wheelz
@operation4wheelz 2 жыл бұрын
So glad we the 2.2 diesel in Australia. Such a better engine for the wrangler.
@rawmotors
@rawmotors 2 жыл бұрын
this has been a common issue with my eco diesel and could not figure out why for the longest time. finally started doing a lot of monitoring and testing to get to the root of the problem. the full skid plates under the jeep!! when on long trips and pulling grades, my exhaust temps would start to climb so high that it would go into limp mode. the full skids would trap in so much exhaust heat that it would eventually throw the motor into limp mode. pulled off the skids, hit the same grades and have not had the problem since.
@4xlanding272
@4xlanding272 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video. I am definitely keeping an eye on that trailer. Keep us updated. Hope all goes well with the eco diesel. Be safe out there.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. This is a 5 part series with the trailer!
@tammyspencer9786
@tammyspencer9786 2 жыл бұрын
the 4 runner too make it back home without a check engine light. lol
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
The not-jeep did fine haha
@davidbartlett5604
@davidbartlett5604 2 жыл бұрын
You would think by now that FIA would have come out with a cure for this problem as it is one of the main reasons for getting a diesel. Well done on the video!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Sounds like they are in the denial phase still.
@rickybobby1055
@rickybobby1055 2 жыл бұрын
No problem for my I6 4.0
@kent426
@kent426 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed after i did the emission recall, it is really sluggish shifting under load so I started manually shifting up Snoqualimie pass to keep it around 3K when cruising at 75mph, if I don't, foot goes to the floor and it won't pull more than 60mph. Manually shift and if pulls under 1/4 throttle at higher RPM and is happier.
@corydoman8329
@corydoman8329 2 жыл бұрын
We have a 4k pound trailer that we pull with a JT Mojave and JLUR Ecodiesel, both on 35's. The Mojave seems to do better with heat, I assume because of the bigger radiator and cooling fan. The Ecodiesel likes to get hot and uses a crazy amount of DEF under stress, so we usually tow with the JT and 9-11 mpg. Thanks for the video!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Ya. I barely used any def on this last trip with no trailer or rtt
@mebikerace
@mebikerace 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Casey. I have a 2018 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk with the Ecodiesel. I tow an Opus OP2 trailer topping out at 3500lbs. Long story short, I got the same check engine light while towing two weeks ago at elevation. My OBD reader (BlueOBD) said it was a turbo code. I cleared it and the truck has been fine since. I got home without issue. Took it to the dealer and they saw the code but couldn’t do much. Clearly something would have to fail involving that code for any action. This is just my experience towing and if the code comes back I’ll clear it and carry on. Just my experience. Thanks for the diesel updates.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Its interesting hearing so many people with a similar issue.
@flyby4by
@flyby4by 10 ай бұрын
should think about taking the rooftop tent off your jeep adding it to the trailer. I just bought a Pando 3.0 with fabtech suspension. I have a HZJ81 Land Cruiser turbo diesel added hope I didnt go too big. Might have to build out my RAM 4x4 diesel to be the puller. Im in Redmond WA.
@kelvinstoryteller8564
@kelvinstoryteller8564 2 жыл бұрын
Fun to see you start this video just a few miles down the road! Come back anytime, there are places far, far away from the trains. Ketchup on everything!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I need a good landing spot across the border when I come down at night.
@tobystowe8865
@tobystowe8865 2 жыл бұрын
So about to take my off grid trailer out on 2 week trip with diesel gladiator. So have this to look forward to eh? Have taken it out before on 6hour drive and no over heat with the trailer. Bit that was not going up a good incline. This trip will be. So wish me luck
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Have fun!!
@EDubiton
@EDubiton 2 жыл бұрын
you make me glad I went with the Gas vs Diesel. I really hope the make some improvements before my next go around, I want it!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Ya. It could be so much better.
@jpdrummer86
@jpdrummer86 2 жыл бұрын
Jeep officially is cancelling the diesel 2023 model is their last, I’m assuming cause of the bs everyone is dealing with, I really wanted the power and range of the diesel but it seems like it’s a no go based on all the cooling issues and unreliability everyone is having
@nickmaruno7007
@nickmaruno7007 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to see you threw another code! I’ve been towing a 19’ GeoPro (3300lbs) with my JLURD on 37s with 3.73s for almost 2 years now. Initially had some issues with de-rating. A year ago, I added a Tazer and turn on the fans manually before towing on grades and leave then on for a while to cool things down once back on the flats. Haven’t had an issue with heat since! I definitely can’t put my foot to the floor and expect it to hold temperature, but it will hold the speed limit on most grades. Have about 15k miles towing between the Canadian Rockies and Utah. It’s not an HD pickup, but I think it does fairly well for being a small SUV with a half-ton diesel crammed into it :) I’m curious to see what your new CEL issue turns out to be. Thanks for doing these videos!
@timolheiser7874
@timolheiser7874 2 жыл бұрын
When I got my Gladiator regeared, they recommended to heat breakin the differential bearings when you are going to pull a trailer, by pulling a trailer ie 30 mph for 100 miles and then various speeds till you are up to 100kmph at 500 miles. That initial trip, may have heated up your bearings and thus your oil, then the cmputer would just derate your Wrangler to protect it.
@comptonoverland7442
@comptonoverland7442 2 жыл бұрын
Old school or no school 🤔
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I think im way past that point with my rig. If it's something that should be done it should be in the manual.
@chuckcribbs3398
@chuckcribbs3398 2 жыл бұрын
Casey, when are you ditching that diesel? Problems galore. Was hoping it would perform better. And why do overlanders think they need trailers? Bulky, slow you down and just too First-World. Don’t understand. When I was 10 I went to “camp” one summer canoeing in the wilderness of Canada. We slept out in the open. No tents. Every other night we got rained on. I’ll never forget that experience. Didn’t need no tent.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Ill hang on to the diesel for a bit while the new jeep is built. There will be lots to talk about with it too. Thanks for watching!
@sorenmelchior
@sorenmelchior 2 жыл бұрын
NO KETCHUP!! BLECH!... other than that great vid Casey. On chairs I use the ARB Compact Directors Chair, which comes with a nice case to protect it when folded up in my 2 door. On the trailer... I love the design of OGT Expedition 2.0, great rig if it's not too buggy out (large swarms of mosquito's here in Alaska are not conducive to comfortable outdoor cooking or showering). I can't wait to see how you feel about it on the trails though.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I have the front runner compact chair. I think its like the arb. It bruises my arm pits cause im kind of big lol
@danialphaomega
@danialphaomega Жыл бұрын
@ 13:49 😂😂😂 bro you got maybe 75ah top with them "deep cycle" floods
@pugnalibertatis5245
@pugnalibertatis5245 2 жыл бұрын
Delete, delete, and delete. The performance gains are amazing especially loaded with gear. I had zero issues driving for 2 weeks traversing Moab in 100 degree heat and Colorado mountains. Over 5500 miles.
@scottj.7105
@scottj.7105 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video .... And seeing Shaun, Paul & the guys cooking and trying out their chairs at the. Campsite. 😂. Bacon 👍
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
You'll love the rest of this series. Its non stop for 5 days
@scottj.7105
@scottj.7105 2 жыл бұрын
@@Casey250 oh sweet!! Thanks ! You guys are the best, and I love your rigs.
@trevorhettinger2534
@trevorhettinger2534 2 жыл бұрын
My EcoDiesel did the same thing with only 400 miles on it. Had to replace the eniter DEF/DPF system
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Already had mine replaced once haha
@tll2012
@tll2012 2 жыл бұрын
I just got back from pulling a 3000lb travel trailer lightly loaded with my 2020 JLU EcoDiesel thru Palm Spring and other So Cal Desert areas in temps in excess of 100 degrees F. The Jeep did well but on the inclines I just sit in the slow lane around 50 to 55mph which I dont mind doing if I can get my trailer out. I seem to have more trouble with a loaded roof top then pulling a trailer.
@rogershipman3578
@rogershipman3578 2 жыл бұрын
The 3.0 ECO-Diesel is a great engine for Wranglers if used in it's intended capacity, highway and some mild off-road. And it is rated for towing 3,500 pounds. Just not with standard Rubi 4:88 gears and 37" tires. Engine has to work too hard, thus your overheating.
@MrGrumpyjunior
@MrGrumpyjunior 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy Oregon live here it’s awesome here
@cesslinger22
@cesslinger22 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I drag my expo 2.0 in the Starbucks line. It's easy but 9/10 times I hear the speaker take the trailer's order lol.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!!!
@garettbroyles69
@garettbroyles69 Жыл бұрын
I had a tuner on mine and it would do the same thing if it started to detect issues with the fuel rail system.. love the limp mode feature..
@betweenthepines4000
@betweenthepines4000 2 жыл бұрын
Luckily your next Jeep isn’t the 3.0!! Blessing in disguise getting mine totalled in February. I couldnt imagine towing my 2200lb overland trailer and getting the dreaded “derate”.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Ya 2200lb isn't much. I doubt ill town with the new rig. Its all about the 'go'
@richardguse3410
@richardguse3410 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please do a video about camping chairs! I'm only 6' 2" nd 76 years old, but ,I can't find a comfortable (high enough) chair.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
The Kuma Off Grid is really winning me over
@jackham2549
@jackham2549 2 жыл бұрын
P00AF code has happened to me and I think that is what you are getting. I tow a trailer all the time, you get better with it. But urban areas can be a challenge to park. I get 8-8.5 km/l (19-20mpg) towing on highways w/mild offroading. I have not had the problems you have had with a diesel, but a recent trip towing in 32-38C (90-100F) outside temp and all temp/trans/oil temps were good. I had this issue. For me it was a code P00AF, if you have a code checker you can see it is a turbo issue and it seems common when towing. Obviously you're not keeping the diesel, but the Banks iDash is a great monitor that lets you check and clear codes for anyone who runs a diesel engine. If you want to know more about my experience with this error I am happy to help. So far Dealership cannot figure out what is causing this on my 9000mile JL diesel. My trailer is a lot lighter than yours, but from what I understand the error comes up more when towing and more weight more likely to happen.
@explore_off_road
@explore_off_road 2 жыл бұрын
Putting ketchup on Perogies is crazy talk ... but Sour Cream! Now yer talkin'!!
@paytonbmayo
@paytonbmayo 2 жыл бұрын
I literally had this issue yesterday. The check engine went away after 500 miles or so. Done the restart thing and it worked. I have a 21 rubicon eco diesel.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I wasn't sure if newer models were having the issue. Thanks for the info
@skiptloo
@skiptloo 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 21 Gladiator Diesel Rubicon and had the same issue towing a geopro 19fbs from Utah to Washington. Lost power and could only go 50mph until I did the restart thing you did.
@donklein3411
@donklein3411 2 жыл бұрын
HI Casey, I just got back from a trip to the midwest and had that same thing happen 3 times. No power, had to manually shift the trans. I have no trailer. Reset the DTCs using the Taser Mini and everything was fine. When I finally talked to a dealer they indicated they thought it could be due to some environmental sensors that caused the CEL and power issues.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Yeesh. So many others with this problem:(
@cericj99
@cericj99 2 жыл бұрын
deep fry your perogies a nice golden colour and enjoy with your fav hot sauce or salsa sauce, down it with an IPA lol
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Ill request the chef get a deep frier
@cdnjeepoverland
@cdnjeepoverland 2 жыл бұрын
Off Grid make some damn fine trailers, and I’ve been eyeing up a Pando for awhile now. I worry my old JKU will struggle, though.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Ooph no doubt. I wouldn't tow a garden trailer with my JK hahah. It'll barely do 120km/h
@phelandeluna5439
@phelandeluna5439 2 жыл бұрын
Get a JT with the 3.6, that'll clear up your towing issues!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered one but it have more liters :)
@phelandeluna5439
@phelandeluna5439 2 жыл бұрын
@@Casey250 awesome! Can't wait to see it!
@mikebaccala5675
@mikebaccala5675 2 жыл бұрын
Love your adventures no ketchup on pierogies bacon jam only. Also watch this is the story till now you guys have a great time maybe someday I'll meet up with you.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watchin our videos!
@zalllon
@zalllon 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking at getting a Rubicon Wrangler Ecodiesel, but really is big money (Toronto area). Was then considering the V6 Rubicon, but still big money … all this back in March. After continuing to watch your channels glad I didn’t. I instead ordered a 4Runner TRD Off Road. Got it 2 weeks ago. For sure Jeeps can do more hardcore off-roading, Jeep tranny permits more economy vs 4Runner. But seeing lots of quality issues on Jeeps and glad I compromised on Off Roading set up vs quality. In any case glad to watch your west coast vids, really helped me go from a car person to a “mild” overlanding wanna-be.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Chef Jons 4 runner goes lots of places
@yisitaadventure3266
@yisitaadventure3266 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Casey love your channel from Australia 🇦🇺 just thought I'd mention that Brad from trailrecon had the same issues with his eco diesel towing his trailer loosing power on hills and one of the other had it two hope you get on top of it puts a downer in a trip but that's part of the adventure keep up the good work
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. We have spoken about the issue. Thanks for watching from down under! Would love to visit there some day
@Jade-d
@Jade-d 2 жыл бұрын
Casey, I hope you are trading in the Eco-Diesel when your new Jeeps arrives. You have had too many problems with it.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Not right away. We will have to sort out the mods on the new rig before I decide what to do with the Ecodiesel. Although I had a blast rock crawling in it this weekend.
@YanikGrignon
@YanikGrignon 2 жыл бұрын
Casey were you using adaptative cruse control? @mrmrsoverlander has issues with their JT diesel overheating when pulling a trailer with ACC. They’re also at Overland Expo so you might trade stories.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
No. I don't have ACC.
@OlafKilthau
@OlafKilthau 2 жыл бұрын
I have had the same issues on my 2022 diesel Gladiator several times this year on long inclines and it happens when exterior temperature is above 80 degrees Fahrenheit.
@marcn5733
@marcn5733 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you experimenting with a trailer. Sorry your ETC went off -- that's really quite concerning. Friends don't let friends put ketchup on pierogies!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. I like to try stuff out and give you guys my thoughts! Ketchup on everything!
@irvinmoore6479
@irvinmoore6479 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 JLUR with the eco diesel and I have had the same on four different occasions, cleared the same way on three of them. The last time I just held the throttle to the floor and it regained power after about a minute.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Ill try that next time!
@tomhorner9918
@tomhorner9918 2 жыл бұрын
Casey, NO ketchup on pierogies. Not sure what's going on with your eco diesel. I just got back from a 7,000 mile trip from Eastern NC to Expo West then Engineer Pass (and some other trails) overloaded with a Gobi rack and a Bundutec RTT on 37's no regear. Oh and 23,000 miles on the odometer. Have not yet experienced any reduced power. Good luck with getting yours sorted.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Its been solid... Until the trailer
@markw365
@markw365 2 жыл бұрын
I found that staying at 65 or under in my Xtreme Recon netted about 21mpg. 3.6 etorque.
@davidrdanner4232
@davidrdanner4232 2 жыл бұрын
Smart man NO BACON !👍🏻
@nawnorlz7559
@nawnorlz7559 2 жыл бұрын
im having problems with my 2.0l jeep too after towing 6x12 uhaul trailer with full load for 300 miles transmission started acting up like when putting in to reverse the vehicle would like shake hell im not talking about little shake here and makes a loud thumping sound and sometimes it wont even go in to reverse
@DelLoosePhotography
@DelLoosePhotography 2 жыл бұрын
My ecodiesel willys wrangler did the same thing towing up hill. Like you, I pulled over and restarted but the check engine light was still on. A couple days after I got home, the check engine light rest itself. Now I have a 2022 Jeep Rubicon Gladiator ecodiesel. I hope I don't have any issues.
@psychologicaltirefire8190
@psychologicaltirefire8190 2 жыл бұрын
2022 should be a 3rd gen FCA EcoDiesel. The 3rd gens are almost a completely different engine from the 2nd gens, something like 85% of parts are different from 2nd to 3rd gen.
@Cwh1992
@Cwh1992 2 жыл бұрын
@@psychologicaltirefire8190 the 3rd gen came out in 2019 and is in all JL/JT’s
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cwh1992 2020
@michaelcook184
@michaelcook184 2 жыл бұрын
Ketchup goes with everything
@jessicastaats3714
@jessicastaats3714 2 жыл бұрын
Omg no ketchup. Sour crème. lol 😂
@outdoor_ed
@outdoor_ed 2 жыл бұрын
did you check your air filter? The GMC diesel Denaili I used to have similar issue towing a trailer if the filter was dirty.
@jordancemulini6161
@jordancemulini6161 Жыл бұрын
Hey! Enjoy watching your videos while I have some free time. I was curious how the ecodiesel performed while towing the Expediton 2.0, as I currently tow mine with the gas ZR2 (Not nearly enough torque).
@jisocentera7628
@jisocentera7628 2 жыл бұрын
This recently happened to me on my eco diesel ......but mine started out a few hours before limp mode with a transmission slipping or "kicking" issue. This "kick" first happened after being stopped in traffic (Vegas 112 degrees) then upon accelerating (not quickly) it felt like the transmission kicked or slipped. It happened more frequently when cresting grades or accelerating. Manual shift mode seemed to minimize this. CEL came on later in the evening with limp mode to 55 mph and then 45 mph. Restarted after a night in a hotel and a clear the codes Def system pcm flash at a dealer on the road. Jeep is hard to start and needs to rest or cool down for a long time before it will start at all. The code was a crank shaft position sensor and a immobilizer key code. I don't know what the CEL is now. I have the lightening bolt too with the electronic throttle control and electronic stability control message. Headed to local dealer tomorrow.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck. It seems to be a wildly common issue
@outsidepnw5381
@outsidepnw5381 2 жыл бұрын
I thought about getting one but basically the exact same thing speed wise happens with my 07 3.8l JK when I go over a pass... which is not wanted anymore.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
With out the trailer it has been fine since my warrenty emmissions replacement. I just ripped through Snoqualmie pass at 85mph in 75 to 90 degrees out.
@outsidepnw5381
@outsidepnw5381 2 жыл бұрын
@@Casey250 I'm at like 55 over Snoqualmie pass haha but I scheduled a test drive for a 21 Rubicon 3.6l next Saturday ✌🏻
@dougjohnson4266
@dougjohnson4266 2 жыл бұрын
5Guys loads up the fries. My 2020 Glad Rub is getting 18 just around town in the summer. In March it was 14 to 17 doing 70 to 80 into the wind.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I just did 20mpg with no rtt or trailer. 5 guys are awesome
@paulelliott682
@paulelliott682 2 жыл бұрын
Is this the Overlander version of A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to The Forum ?
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea
@kwojciech
@kwojciech 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Casey! I thought of subscribing… but that ketchup on pierogis scandal made my change my mind 😂 I subscribed on Shaun’s channel! Just kidding it was great to see you guys joking around!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy Shauns channel and his boring ketchupless perogies 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@uj7373
@uj7373 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2020 gas gladiator and that issue has happened to me twice while towing a trailer. It threw the code from a stop both times. The dealer replaced the throttle body the first time and couldn’t find any thing wrong the second time. The check engine little would go out after several start cycles but the code stayed.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I need to go get my def update ill ask them to check the stored code and see what they say. Stay tuned.
@danybarceloux7950
@danybarceloux7950 Жыл бұрын
Mustard on perogies !!!
@mazevx2451
@mazevx2451 2 жыл бұрын
Really seems that there's a significant difference between the north American ecodiesel and the European, we don't have those problems over here. Maybe the fuel? Diesel standards are way different between American and European standards
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Who knows bro 🤷‍♂️
@cdnjeepoverland
@cdnjeepoverland 2 жыл бұрын
Off Grid make some damn fine trailers, and I’ve been eyeing up a Pando 2.0 for awhile now… my M101 CDN2 is a great gear hauler, but it sure would be sweet to flip the rear lid and get dinner ready, and when the time comes just hop inside and pass out. I worry my old JKU will struggle, though. Oh the troubles. Regardless, these EcoDiesel issues are ridonkulous… I’d be livid.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Watch this entire series with the trailer. Lots of fun to come.
@eastcoastriders1267
@eastcoastriders1267 2 жыл бұрын
5 guys rocks!!!
@tony2246
@tony2246 2 жыл бұрын
Has this situation gotten worse since you added the skid plates? They will cause your engine to run hotter because it is harder for the heat to escape.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
It hasn't. I just ran a 8hr drive to idaho with no rtt and no trailer, and no issues and it was hot and i was flying.
@prlidman
@prlidman 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always. What was Jeeps fix to "Electronic Throttle Control" problem you had in the past? I'm having the same issue and the dealers can't find anything wrong.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
It never happened again after the emissions system was replaced. Then it did it towing.
@JohnSmith-bq7gz
@JohnSmith-bq7gz 2 жыл бұрын
Must be something with the JL because my JT eco runs like a striped ass ape with no issues towing and I’m in Arizona where it only drops below 100 for Christmas.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to very a ton between rigs
@GoneBroke
@GoneBroke 2 жыл бұрын
Just to throw in the comment definitely no ketchup on perogies must have sour cream! Great content Casey. As long as the engine light is not flashing you should be ok. I was told when it is steady flashing get it checked ASAP.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
If it still moves forward it is still ok 😁 I did end up with only sour cream after being berated by my fellow adventures.
@GoneBroke
@GoneBroke 2 жыл бұрын
@@Casey250 Good to hear on both counts 👍
@thecatch83
@thecatch83 2 жыл бұрын
As a Toyota owner, i can honestly speak for everyone and say we’re not surprised. Didn’t your bro friend Story til now blow his JT motor? When will you guys learn.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Never. Wait till you see whats coming
@outdoorjeepadventures1416
@outdoorjeepadventures1416 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the cam shaft position sensor
@vegasfordguy
@vegasfordguy 2 жыл бұрын
Manufacturers selling vehicles that have not been adequately tested in real world applications. With all the ultra strict EPA requirements it's harder and harder to produce a reliable engine platform. Tighter tolerances, hotter temperatures, etc. The public are the vehicle testers for new vehicles which is becoming ridiculous IMO. You shouldn't have to worry about any reliability or driving issues with any new vehicle.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Where do I sign up to test Jeeps for Jeep. I'd find all their issues lol
@vegasfordguy
@vegasfordguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Casey250 I'm not sure. When I used to live in Las Vegas Ford would hire test drivers to put certain vehicles through hot summer testing in Nevada and Arizona. I believe several manufacturers test for cold weather and altitude testing in Colorado. It would definitely be interesting to see exactly what they encounter.
@-a-bomb
@-a-bomb 2 жыл бұрын
Did you by chance use the soft top to lessen the weight? Is the soft top as noisy as rumor suggests? I plan to get my jeep in about 6 months and I want the dual top but I really haven't seen a detailed review of the soft top pros/cons while doing regular or adventurous driving.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I love the soft top. I bought this jeep to wheel but then turned to camping when the world locked down. It is very quiet for a soft top, even when you talk the 3 rear windows out and run in safari mode. I love safari mode in the summer
@cleveland53015
@cleveland53015 2 жыл бұрын
Might have missed it. But are you running stock 3.73?
@n6nu
@n6nu 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Just came back from Alvord myself. Hey, what are those tie down straps that you are using for your containers in the back? Y-straps?
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
They are front runner stratchits and wolfpack pros.
@spartaforever3636
@spartaforever3636 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Any idea what your tongue weight is? Being that the cross member on the jeeps is the weak point, I've been wondering (especially will everything upfront of the axels with these trailers). Thanks!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I do not know but I don't think its a lot. OGT would know as im set to their recommended hitch height.
@spartaforever3636
@spartaforever3636 2 жыл бұрын
@@Casey250 Thanks but hitch height has nothing to do with it respectively (unless you want a bunch of tail whip from being too high). The dry weight they list is without the batteries, water, 'stuff' etc upfront of the axels. It's gets there real quick (350 lb limit). Believe me I know...ha. Great video and glad I found your channel (subscribed).
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I was mostly inferring they would know the hitch weight if setup at the right hitch height. A low hitch increasts the shift to the hitch etc etc.
@davidrdanner4232
@davidrdanner4232 2 жыл бұрын
No ketchup on Perogi 👍🏻
@thezucernoodle2345
@thezucernoodle2345 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering why you don't monitor EGT when towing or driving in a loaded or most likely overloaded condition? You really should not be expecting a diesel to drive like a gas engine and should drive based on EGT because all other temps may be within normal parameters but the engine will reduce power to lower those EGTs. The majority of 3/4 and 1 ton diesel truck owners will monitor EGT and adjust speed to keep those temps within limits when loaded or towing significant loads.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
I watch the engine oil temp. I don't have a egt monitor. Once I knew this was happening I managed the heat and speed but the fact that it happens still is what I wanted to see, and share. Just because it makes it on a video isn't neccesary how I always drive. I have found issues on mine and want to document and share.
@Natezoinks
@Natezoinks 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Sucks about the diesel issues, but makes for great content. 👍🏻❤️🇺🇸
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and taking a moment leave a comment 👊
@connormccloskey4389
@connormccloskey4389 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing you should put on pierogies is hot sauce.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@scottjacobs7522
@scottjacobs7522 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Casey have not long found your channel but really enjoy it and the banter with the boys , so you think diesel is expensive there I worked it for gallons here in Australia it would be 9.08 a gallon.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Oooph.
@BY-dq3mt
@BY-dq3mt 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine towing something with my JKUR stock 3.6L. Wranglers built for real off-roading just aren’t for towing imo if they have the stock motor. I’ve re-geared and all that….good luck merging into highway traffic lol, and that’s with no trailer.
@xbpbat21x
@xbpbat21x 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more with you...and I have the 3.8 liter! It's why I looked for the lightest trailer I could find. It still sucks going up grades. And I get 9 miles to the gallon!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
The Ecodiesel rips with no trailer.
@Billrovid
@Billrovid 2 жыл бұрын
If youre towing up a grade with the trailer stay at 55mph. You wont have a problem. Try to go over that and you ll have problems.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
While it help sometimes it didn't here. Also 55 is slow 😁
@Billrovid
@Billrovid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Casey250 it is slow I agree. I tell my buddies I’ll catch up on the way down. 🤣
@maddrummerhef
@maddrummerhef Жыл бұрын
Haha everyone I’ve taken to five guys has these exact same comments the first time 😂😂😂
@ericrudy2504
@ericrudy2504 2 жыл бұрын
No ketchup..sour cream only with perogies.
@troutriver58
@troutriver58 2 жыл бұрын
Guessing that with that trailer tongue weight and the cargo on the JLURD, you were way overweight.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
You callin me fat? 🤣🤣 Jk
@troutriver58
@troutriver58 2 жыл бұрын
@@Casey250 weight watchers for jeeps!
@corksauve4949
@corksauve4949 2 жыл бұрын
You can't drive 55! Sammy would be proud! lol
@orvywebster2598
@orvywebster2598 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know never to buy the diesel jeep
@alive4082
@alive4082 Жыл бұрын
Before watching I'ma guess the jeep broke 😂
@stoney3398
@stoney3398 2 жыл бұрын
Ketchup is what you add when your food doesn’t taste good. Regardless, you just make your food taste like ketchup!
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Love me some ketchup
@findmeinariver
@findmeinariver 2 жыл бұрын
Hell NO to ketchup on perogies!!!!!
@MtnMoto
@MtnMoto 2 жыл бұрын
Five Guys fries are all the same size, the only difference between small and large is the size of the cup they put on top of the pile of fries 😂
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Great lunch spot
@chrisecker9341
@chrisecker9341 2 жыл бұрын
Dude never take this combo to death valley.
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. No doubt
@jacoley
@jacoley 2 жыл бұрын
What is your rear gear ratio? Did you top off your DEF?
@Casey250
@Casey250 2 жыл бұрын
Stock 3.73 gesrs. Def is full
@leskobrandon538
@leskobrandon538 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe your EGT was too high....
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