You WON'T BELIEVE the Latest FEATURES in FreeBSD 14.2!

[@KevKevAllen]

The title had me excited to find out about new features (plural) in 14.2 So far I’ve seen the entire video and I know zfs encryption on the home directory doesn’t work right… still waiting for the “features” part of “FEATURES” to show itself.

[@KevKevAllen]

Long time viewer and lover of the channel, but this one was the first time I felt the time was 100% clickbait.

[@fdg394]

It’s pretty much what you get also from other video

[@grahamperrin]

The official announcement for 14.1, months ago, should have highlighted OpenZFS-encrypted home directories. Gary did well to discover this feature. He began responding as any normal person would, when he began experimenting with this (and other features of 14.2).

[@hadeseye2297]

Apart of that being a waste of mine time as well, I don't get the idea of the usage of CLI tool keyword "test" (Linux). FreeBSD has its "tests" tool, but still. Why would one have such bad habits? Btw. Have you found any new features in FreeBSD 14.2 by any chance? And by features I mean FEATURES.

[@grahamperrin]

@@hadeseye2297 begin with the release announcement, which begins with highlights. At least one of these is a new feature (an enhancement).

[@lucianminea]

Every BIOS/UEFI has an internal "protection" for "unofficial" USB installers. In order to avoid any behaviour regarding any USB launched installer, you need to disable Secure Boot, clear any security Keys from the BIOS/UEFI and enable Legacy USB setting. That will do the trick, and you'll never have any problem in the future.

[@ClassicRiki]

@@lucianminea You could probably keep Secure Boot on and enroll the required hashes instead

[@weycresttv]

I sometimes get a certificate error when trying to install pkg. Sometimes certctl rehash has fixed it. However the fix appears to be switching to latest rather than quarterly.

[@benjolin1623]

I had strange behavior when I put in group info in wrong entry. I did not encrypt my zfs.

[@ulfen69]

This is interesting. I like FreeBSD more and more. There are only a few things left before I go 💯%. Playing videos with DRM is one.

[@fdg394]

@@ulfen69 listen to me, don’t. It’s still very immature when it comes to be used as a Desktop.

[@justadude8716]

I used it for a year and it was ok, besides cuda not working and my drawing tablet not being supported...

[@ulfen69]

@@fdg394 I guess it depends what one want from FreeBSD. I cannot watch videos in most courses I bought in Udemy. That is the main reason I dont use Freebsd full time.

[@charleswilliams8368]

RoboNuggie has a video on how to watch DRM videos on FreeBSD.

[@Mudflap1110]

Thank you, Gary. Would be interested in what you find out😊

[@JustinPresley]

What kind of watch are you wearing in the beginning? I love the way the hands look

[@samwallflower7875]

I enjoy your channel, very calm, and to the point. Thanks for the content.

[@GaryHTech]

Thank you 😬

[@enado18]

It looks like the first 3 times setting up gary’s homedir encryption “failed” was because the keyphrase was rejected…

[@GaryHTech]

You are correct, I didn't notice this till I was editing the video

[@enado18]

It didn’t look like it gave you a chance to try again. That looks like rather poor testing on FreeBSD’s end.

[@GaryHTech]

@@enado18 I agree, it should give you 2 more attempts IMO

[@hadeseye2297]

@@enado18 Poor is the usage of word test under =nix systems. Linux has a "test" CLI tool, while FreeBSD has "tests" tool. And where are the *FEATURES* that are mentioned in the title? I know how to install and setup a FreeBSD system. Quite a clickbait.

[@matthenrich995]

Well honestly it makes me feel better to see my experts also struggling with figuring things out from time to time. So I actually appreciate that you posted this video. Maybe you can chase it with another showing what you figured out and going over the features. Thanks for the videos.

[@realkoryheard]

macOS has been my BSD of choice but since watching your videos I've given some other BSDs another go. Ultimately FreeBSD is my system of choice as the documentation and training materials are incredible. I've found books on device drivers and on kernel programing as well as Dr. Kirk McKusicks training series.

[@godnyx117]

TrashOS is as BSD as Android is a Linux distro. Actually, even less…

[@stefanalecu9532]

@@godnyx117 I suppose the BSD world isn't producing the brightest comedians out there

[@peterdambier]

Subscribing to the mailinglist before even trying my first BSD I got the feeling that the Useful Fullyunderstood fileSystem , UFS for short might be a little bit more trustworthy than ZFS. I guess I might have avoided some problems but I do not know for sure. I guess again the disk is decrypted on the fly and in memory only.

[@savagepro9060]

Just subscribed, and I heard you stated that your CPU is a Pentium? Wow, can you disclose a setup profile of your machine. Thanks!

[@mrcrankypants8487]

when you see the Lenovo splash image at boot, hit the Enter key and you will see a startup menu

[@koelhomem]

You a fellow Hammer? Good man!!

[@derhorst1398]

Now (14.2) I have the "kldload i915kms screen goes black" problem on my desktop computer. But it's not a big problem for me, because I can start X11 blindfolded also. 😎

[@fdg394]

Good luck with that. It’ll be fixed when 14.1 will be EOL (June 2025). FreeBSD someone said?

[@mirror1766]

You can rebuild the driver from ports which will likley resolve driver issues since the installed driver was built against 14.1 and drivers interact with the kernel in a way that is not always backwards compatible for how it changes. Another option is if you have a speaker instead of a buzzer or silence, you may try setting the computer to play audio so you know when you can log in and startx.

[@michaelheimbrand5424]

You probably have a rather old Intel GPU and they updated GPU drivers in 14.2 to a fresh Linux version that drops support for some older hardware (like a Thinkpad R500 I was upgrading to 14.2 in this case). I logged in to the machine via SSH and uninstalled the updated drm-kmod from 14.2 and installed an older one with pkg. I'm not near that machine now so I can't tell the exact command or version. But basically remove 14.2 driver and install older gpu drivers, and then it worked.

[@pinlo]

Try installing graphics/drm-515-kmod instead. It worked for me.

[@fabio.domingos]

installed drm-kmod? rc.conf kld_list="/boot/modules/i915kms.ko"

[@LudwigvonEssen]

on bara metal!!! cool!!!

[@grahamperrin]

Hi! The errata document mentions that use of keys for ZFS-encrypted home directories is not yet properly documented (words to that effect). I'll follow up with a link maybe in Mastodon or Discord. Thanks

[@derhorst1398]

It's better to encrypt the whole system. My opinion.

[@mirror1766]

@@derhorst1398 Earlier on there was a setting during filesystem setup for geli encryption (should be the screen with switching from installing UEFI+MBR to UEFI only boot installer. That would encrypt the whole disk. Whole disk encryption means you won't deal with ZFS inadequacies like having file and path names leak in use, in scrub errors, etc. but also means that the system won't be bootable without 1. every user having that system password and 2. needing the users to put that in for the system to boot instead of it being done only on a login step. Full disk encryption means every user has access to other user's data as the password is shared or else you need multiple pools on multiple partitions/disks for each user to have their isolated area. There are tradeoffs to both but neither is a correct choice for all encryption needs.

[@grahamperrin]

@@derhorst1398 GELI can be complementary. OpenZFS-encrypted home directories are a massive improvement.

[@grahamperrin]

@@derhorst1398 complementary, not necessarily alternative.

[@hadeseye2297]

My ThinkCentre runs under Mac OS. PS. It's beyond my why you use TEST in terminal. It's a CLI tool for checking file types and comparing values. Also I wonder about necessity of writing clear instead of CTRL+L. It should work out of the box. And where are the FEATURES mentioned in the title? Afaik it was possible to install FreeBSD before.

[@maricomovies]

First you just silently ignored an error durning password entry (pass too short). Next after that you tried as a user 'zfs mount' but when it failed tried as root 'mount' (note command difference- not 'zfs mount'). On the last aattempt you tried as root zfs mount with success. It's looks ike you don't quite know or sure what are you doing....

[@sw1257]

You may just need to login as the user you setup the encryption for rather than root. You also ignored the password is too short error on zfs encryption several times :)

[@tildarusso]

Use a tool called Ventoy, then you no longer need to "burn a USB". I don't know FreeBSD is still under active dev.

[@GaryHTech]

I made a video about ventoy a little while ago. Yes FreeBSD is very much actively developed

[@anthonywalker6268]

When it works.

[@tildarusso]

@@GaryHTech On PC side, FreeBSD has no proper drivers for modern hardwares, on the server side, a lot of popular server apps for FreeBSD are versions behind Linux, in terms of stability, Linux distros are on par with FreeBSD, on performance side, Linux is clearly the winner... So, where is the future of FreeBSD?

[@jsizemo]

I keep thinking this guy was once a member of some Smith’s knockoff post punk band

[@fdg394]

😂😂😂😂

[@pycontiki]

You made me smile! All hail Salford Lads Club

[@zopeck]

I am sorry if I did not understand well, but I wanted to see this video because of the title, I wanted to know about the "new features" of FreeBSD, but I do not think I got the message, or, perhaps you could not show us properly about the features because of the issue with the ZFS home encription thingy. Anyway, i think you should at least change the name of the video, so anyone else does not get frustrated afterwards...

[@Atlarius-n5t]

Because you using uefi... Most of the cases happens in the boot... You need configure uefi if you want to use uefi...😅 Most of the cases is on kvm

[@GaryHTech]

Sorry I don't understand

[@Atlarius-n5t]

@GaryHTech from 1m to 1:40m more or less on your video... USB media compatibility and boot options.

[@futuresystemsbvba]

the firmare is running a fake bios , the best is to get all power out remove the cmos and wait one week, this should remove all elektrons and put the cmos back so the board gets now a data error cmos , this should give back the originall firmware due the memory pointer is gone, on servers this gets done by scrubbing but desktops lenovo is not a good system, it's the ibm deal that lenovo used to drop all the x86 in 2014 over , so ...

[@shawnchalfant1595]

FreeBSD is that uncle that you just try to avoid at family gatherings.

[@grahamperrin]

Loosely translated: idiot nephew does not yet know the true meaning of older and wiser. You're welcome.

[@shutdowncnn6086]

Retire pilot. Captain. The Airbus A-330-300 (294 passengers) and Airbus A-330-200 (245 passengers) use RedHat Linux to play the Flight Attendant Briefings and entertain movies for passengers. These fly around the world and to point thousands hours of reliability in those aircraft. It's fact and not fiction!

[@shawnchalfant1595]

@ well just dandy.

[@shutdowncnn6086]

One more comment. On his system crash. Gary was running his 14.2 FreeBSD on a Lenovo computer a company which has a long history of malware in their bios chips. A computer company I avoid buying from for many years. If you do a general search you will find the stories on what I am talking.