You won't believe what my ancestral DNA results are 😱|Kenyan living in Finland|

DNA results from my heritage

[@thedante7722]

In the 16th century, there was a semi-nomadic tribe called Segejus (a Swahili derivation of the word Thagicu) that frequented the Swahili coast. It's really plausible that these folks are related to current day Kambas and Kikuyus. This tribe helped the Sheikh of Malindi invade Mombasa in the 1590s, allying with the Portuguese. The Portuguese write about this tribe. Maybe that Segeju-Portuguese connection in the 16th Century is when oneof your Thagicu ancestors got the Iberian DNA

[@sammyderrick8658]

The amount of intermarriage that took place in East Africa was incredible.

[@kim1570]

I'm telling you! 🤣

[@jojothepolyglot1866]

People forget that it was the Europeans that put the current borders that we have in Africa as they were dividing Africa among themselves. Otherwise as a Kenyan I also know I have more or less similar ancestry as her as our great great grandpa also was married to a Cushitic woman than made our family quite light skinned especially my grandpa! My grandpa died in 2006 at the age of 106 and he could tell us how his grandpa would move mostly to trade in the northern parts of Africa and at the time if you were wealthy you were presented with a woman to sleep with after a tiring journey or to marry as people were polygamous...Hahahahaah! So he must have left some kids over there as well

[@longinusukenta]

@jojothepolyglot1866 We need more dna tests from East Africans, especially Kenya, Uganda, and Tanzania. It looks like the Tutsi's and Kikuyu's have some Bantu men that married Cushitic women.

[@jojothepolyglot1866]

@@longinusukenta People forget we didn't have the current borders until 1885 when the Europeans came and decided to divide Africa among themselves....People used to move freely trading commodities, Nomads moved from one place in the north or west or east to south and intermarriage was a norm just like my great grandpa married a cushite women he met while trading in Ethiopia and the Sudan

[@safiya1629]

@@jojothepolyglot1866 you're 4x great grandad probably traded with ottomans, they were very involved in converting africans in the horn to islam, probably an Oromo he was married to.

[@blessingchanne1866]

Love from Somalia 🇸🇴

[@carthiekoivari]

Thank you ❤️❤️❤️

[@blessingchanne1866]

@@C0PE_ what do you mean?

[@25oxendine]

I've seen a lot of Kenyans get Middle Eastern and Somalia.

[@carthiekoivari]

So maybe it's a guess or it's real

[@25oxendine]

@@carthiekoivari I think it's real. That's a pretty decent amount of M.E. Kenyans and Arabs were networking since the 1st century. Not all Kenyans(mostly Kikuyus I think) come back with Mideast/NA

[@carthiekoivari]

@@25oxendine yeah, that's also true. Also when kikuyus were moving downwards towards Kenya they did have wars with cushitic people. So it's always a big wow how we are quick to be put in one box but really one can and is many people 😅

[@kennethkyalo2684]

Not just kikuyus, embus and kambas along with merus too.

[@25oxendine]

@@kennethkyalo2684 So what ethnicity is Miss Trudie/Mrs. Wodemaya... one of my favorite KZbinrs from Kenya? Some Kenyans seem to be fairly pure just looking(not always reliable) at them, like Dee Mwango and her brother Marwa. Kenyans seem to be the most diverse nation of all the African nations, save South Africa. West Africans don't seem to be very diverse at all, except the Peul Fulani who settled there from North Africa as mostly Berber slave raiders and Islamic converters. Their makeup today is MOSTLY West African, with strong origins from Senegal, but still retaining from 5%-20% North African, even those found in Nigeria. Their adopted lower(craftsman and such) caste Fulani do not share those same genetic footprints

[@cariocabassa]

Nice results!!! Beleza...

[@dejantodorovski5222]

Are your parents both of Kenyan origin? Nice cool results, regards 🙂👍🙌

[@carthiekoivari]

Yes they are both from Kenya, and so are my grandparents and great grandparents, after that......well i don't know 🤣

[@blessingchanne1866]

Massai are mixed Cushitic and Nilotic. We share numbers like siet sogol and tommon.8, 9, 10.

[@carthiekoivari]

Am not sure what those are but wooow, learning things everyday.

[@dlasky]

@@carthiekoivari He meant that the Maasai and Cushites (Somali) use the same words for the numbers, which could be evidence of historical close proximity/intermarriage.

[@carthiekoivari]

@@dlasky ahhhhhhhhh 😅😅😅😅😅😅 i was like, what numbers but okay 😅😅😅 thought it was some scientific numbers lol 🤣🤣

[@keithmburu8269]

@@carthiekoivari yes i would consider maasai a nilo cushitic ethnic group they heavily mixed with cushitic groups as well as kikuyus

[@ahmedcbdicalicali1207]

No massi are Nilotic nothing to do with Somali they just borrowed our language

[@camriee]

I actually did 23andMe and my results came back being 75.1% African (surprised with sudanese showing up as small percentage) and 19.3% European-- mom's grandfather 100% Irish and my relatives on my fathers side are biracial (Native and Scottish). Surprised to see Spanish & Portuguese as a super small percentage (0.8) and then only having little Native American and little, also trace ancestry in Cyprus . Uploading my results on MyHeratige, it threw me off because they had 15.6% Iberian and smaller percentages of Filipino, Indonesian and Malay. Irish Scottish and Welsh was 7.2% (huge difference from 23andMe) but Nigerian at 43% and Sierra Leon 19%. Also had Kenya as well. Its very interesting but very confusing! --You are very beautiful by the way! Love the video!

[@carthiekoivari]

Oh my, that sounds super interesting....it's like you are everybody 🤣🤣 you have every continent in you. Thanks for watching my video and for the compliments. You are beautiful as well ❤️❤️

[@BettysCloset]

Nigeria and Sudan share some of the same tribes Hausa and kanrui both live in Sudan and Nigeria. That might be why there saying Sudan in one dna test and Nigeria in other dna test

[@antongalchier144]

Daamn thats so cool. Watch My results im somali from Finland too

[@carthiekoivari]

I sure will ☺️

[@user-ni9gk9cg2w]

I did test in MyHeritage I found out 30.6%Somali Maasai 24.5% 24.3% Kenya and last 17.8% west African 1.1% finish Japan and Korea 1.8%

[@carthiekoivari]

That's unique to have Japan and Korean 😅

[@bentutsibensamale7520]

Are u of kenya or Rwanda origin

[@bisharGellowMahad]

Are you from north sudan

[@user-ni9gk9cg2w]

@@bisharGellowMahad yes

[@kennethkyalo2684]

Bantus are not east African. We are west/central Africans, we met east African hunter gatherers. Like the athi,ogiek,waata and agumba. These groups had cushitic and some nilotic genealogy as is the case with the okiek. The maasai and Somali DNA doesn't mean we all had these two ancestors. The hunter gatherers are extinct so this is an approximation, their genes are lumped into Somali and maasai.

[@carthiekoivari]

Nice to know ☺️☺️☺️☺️ great info 👍🏽

[@bonturimurals8914]

you lied Bantus are in Kenya. and they were in Kenya during colonial rule. I am a Bantu From the Agikuyu Tribe. Mau Mau movement remember

[@carthiekoivari]

@@bonturimurals8914 i did not lie 😅 bantus migrated from congo basin remember 😅 then they moved down south from east Africa all the way to south Africa 😳😳😳😳 or did I say something different 😅

[@bonturimurals8914]

@@carthiekoivari I was actually replying to Kenneth he said Bantus are not in east Africa. He is talking about the present.

[@carthiekoivari]

@@bonturimurals8914 ahhhhhhhhh 😅😅😅

[@slaveofallah2162]

The Kikuyu people naturally became absorbed by the indigenous inhabitants of Kenya: cushitic, Nilotic, and hunter gatherers (Agumba and Athi) kikuyu people were also open minded when it came to intermarrying different peoples like Arabs and Somalis. The kikuyu are in the same place as the Tutsi as they have retained a bantu language but their ancestry is primarily cushitic and Nilotic. Average kikuyu persons ancestry DNA results: north east african 36.1%]].. [[Ethiopian & Eritrean 15.6%]]…[[sudanese 12.3%]]…[[West african 0.5%]]…. [[nigeria 0.1%]]... [[ sub saharan african 2.1%]]

[@thedante7722]

Most of this Eurasian DNA, North African African DNA is very ancient. I don't even think we got it directly it just filtered down to us from the Horn. We didn't intermarry with Arabs, we didn't even like those folks and used to kill them on the site. Lastly, I'd say we absorbed the Cushites and the Nilotes, not the other way around. And because we literally border the Horn and they're not in short supply, they just kept coming. And your SS estimates are very low.

[@karwilskarari3807]

Kikuyu used to kill arabs .. no marriage

[@AS-qj5eh]

What about the luhya and luo people?

[@jobsunguti9224]

probably this average ancestry DNA is not bantu,i have seen DNA results from a Kikuyu that has specified "southeastern bantu',if you are a bantu by ancestry,this should be captured.

[@longinusukenta]

Your analysis is false. Kikuyu DNA is super majority bantu.

[@mwangicharles98]

Im happy to see more Kenyans taking the DNA test mine came back 45 % Bantu and 22% Somali, West African,North African, Europe and asia

[@jobsunguti9224]

seen your 45.2% recorded as Kenyan but not bantu.

[@mwangicharles98]

@@jobsunguti9224 yes depends on company used but that basically means bantu.

[@mariem7174]

I’m very late into this. The coast of Mombasa was a trading route from the Far East, Middle East and the Portuguese. Also remember there were NO borders. Don’t know Don’t get what Kenyan is as tribe😂

[@carthiekoivari]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣that one got me too but you are right, the boarders were brought by the British. Thank you for contributing

[@robleyusuf2566]

Portuguese are the ones that built fort Jesus in Mombasa possibly Iberian from the Portuguese.

[@carthiekoivari]

I thought so too☺️☺️

[@just42tube]

Did I understand it correctly that you don't want to have nicknames given to you? I have the same preference. I don't know why. Can you explain your reasons?

[@carthiekoivari]

No, i don't mind nick names 😅

[@jowelmurythymyna8834]

Kikuyus ,Somali,masaai halooo

[@NyakachKabodho]

It's no surprise that Kikuyus carry Maasai and Somali DNA, you intermarried with Maasais and Southern Cushites.

[@just42tube]

I don't know how familiar you are with the genetic and cultural roots of the current Finnish population. I mean different Finnish tribes and influences from all directions at different times. It is in some ways an isolated case, but also an example of how genetics and culture can move independently. It demonstrates how genetic background or where your ancestry has lived doesn't dictate your culture or cultural identity. It does effect it, but is not at all the whole story explaining it.

[@carthiekoivari]

Maybe in the museum in Helsinki? Got something 😅

[@just42tube]

@@carthiekoivari I don't known if fairly new genetic research results have been noticed by the curators of some museums. I have no idea. But some research results are online and there have been articles about the studies.

[@just42tube]

@@carthiekoivari there could be some displays in some museum about Finnish tribes, but I have no knowledge about such.

[@just42tube]

@@carthiekoivari The following is more than a decade old text, but still valid I think. It could explain something about your Finnish Russian husband. ""Totuus on kuitenkin se, että suomalaiset eivät ole tulleet mistään. ”Suomalaisuus on kansallinen projekti, joka on rakentunut vähitellen kahdensadan viime vuoden aikana, eikä sillä ole välttämättä paljonkaan tekemistä niiden ihmisten kanssa, jotka tulivat tänne ensin”, sanoo kielitieteilijä Janne Saarikivi Helsingin yliopistosta. Ennen kuin meistä tuli suomalaisia, olimme lappalaisia, hämäläisiä ja savolaisia. Suomi oli täynnä erilaisia etnisiä ryhmiä, jotka olivat saapuneet tänne eri aikoina ja eri suunnista."" If you search using the text above you find more about the article.

[@coachphillipah6965]

Middle East is not really surprising for Bantus, as they are said to be of Jewish origin.

[@Alhamdulilah28]

Welcome to the family. You are somali

[@carthiekoivari]

Thank you ☺️☺️

[@kevinwainaina9055]

The way you said that yoh not maasai...killed me....hahhaaaaa..maaasai!!!?

[@carthiekoivari]

I thought kamba, Meru, kisii even but maasai 😀😀😀😀that was a shock 🤣🤣🤣there is nothing wrong with being maasai it's just that am always saying that and there is this maasai tribe bla bla, kumbe am one of them 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@carthiekoivari]

I should tell my husband Sasa he should go and kill a Lion

[@kevinwainaina9055]

@@carthiekoivari i think he will just look @you with these blank eyes and pretend that he dn't hear anything you just said ...haha..the mere thought of even dreaming about doing that can get someone shaking to the core but nowadays they have learnt a lot and have appreciated the fact that such beasts are amazing in their own way especially when visitors get to visit such places and the money used to better the local communities.. so the killing has drastically dropped.. which is awesome...

[@kevinwainaina9055]

@@carthiekoivari ebu try telling him..hahaha

[@Meiran._]

@Carthie Koivari hi, I'm kamba but I suspect I might have somali in my blood, I keep having vivid dreams of Somali people idk. I will take the test in future. My great grandfather was kikuyu and mixed with other backgrounds. My father side is kamba but are so lightskin I think we might have descended from a white man given my surname, kamolo, is not even kamba. Regards

[@buntingy]

U r totally east African😁🇰🇪🌍

[@carthiekoivari]

Would not want to change that for the world ☺️

[@jowelmurythymyna8834]

Most kikuyus are mainly mostly cushitic than bantuish

[@carthiekoivari]

I think so too, we exchanged even cultures. I think i remember we even had a tribal war when we were moving into Kenya. That's if i remember my history well

[@umojapress2857]

No. Most kikuyus are majority bantu.

[@kim1570]

No, Agikuyu are *foundationally* bantu, with quite a bit of Nilo-Cushitic admixture.

[@maasaimusicunlimited2811]

No..most Kikuyu are 85 %niger congo

[@maasaimusicunlimited2811]

Kikuyu wants to associate with horner's yet physically you're very different

[@teejayangel6638]

It's showing M.E because Kikuyus are Hebrew/ Israelite.

[@ouasselmadrileno6215]

7,4% Middle Eastern is high for a Kenyan lol because only a small east part of Kenya was Arabian and Islamic

[@thedante7722]

It's ancient.

[@kevinwainaina9055]

Then came Nigeria...Nigeriaaaaaaaaa.....Oga...Katarina

[@carthiekoivari]

🤣🤣🤣🤣taimagini 🤣🤣🤣

[@kevinwainaina9055]

@@carthiekoivari hahaha.... Those are some serious results.. But I like what you said about aaam us being intertwined.. I mean we are all one..THE HUMAN RACE..so that got me very very intrigued and curious..I wonder what my results would be!!!?

[@carthiekoivari]

@@kevinwainaina9055 you should get the kit and be shocked 🤣

[@kevinwainaina9055]

@@carthiekoivari I know I will.. Haha

[@marasightings6735]

I now understand why many people are complaining about my heritage..it is very inaccurate..lol..

[@quantadotonium3654]

Massai, how come it is different from Kenya?

[@carthiekoivari]

🤣🤣🤣🤣i thought the same thing. Under Kenya they had mentioned bantus so maybe that's why 😅

[@sumanyo4476]

@@carthiekoivari masai are a mix group.... 50.. 50 nilot and cushtic

[@carthiekoivari]

@@sumanyo4476 did not know that ☺️

[@sumanyo4476]

@@carthiekoivari look it up..... so that means you have more Somali dna.....lol ......

[@carthiekoivari]

@@sumanyo4476 🤣🤣🤣🤣i will look it up. I don't mind though 😅😅😅

[@mizzobjectiveone3819]

The face when Nigerian came upLOL!!!

[@carthiekoivari]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣shock of my life

[@ferdinandnainggolan1833]

Your face look Melanesia in east Indonesia

[@carthiekoivari]

Oh wooooow, interesting 😅😅

[@ZuZuDahabo]

Sister we the Somalis don't like the Alshabab either. And welcome cousin, 13% is a lot. And about Nigerians, you look a lot like a Hausa. You really have a Nothern Nigerian face specially Hausa

[@Bibirallie]

take the results with a grain of salt. They aren't too accurate.

[@tahliah6691]

They are very accurate….. this is why you are able to find family members on the dna matches…. I found my cousins son on there and I has no idea who he was until I started messaging him and he mentioned his mothers name who is my first cousin ….. we don’t live in the same country ….. it’s very accurate…

[@yahshuaemanuel6250]

That iberian is probably a mistake, My Heritage has been known for giving alot of wrong results.

[@yahshuaemanuel6250]

Your Kikuyu, how would you have iberian

[@carthiekoivari]

You also do not know all your ancestors do you? I am sure an not pure Kikuyu. Anyway this are just estimates. They could be very wrong or there could be some truth in them ☺️

[@yahshuaemanuel6250]

Oh I hope you don't think I'm trying to be disrespectful or anything. I just have seen alot of people's results from My Heritage and many times the results have something in it that's a little off. I love Kikuyu people by the way...but if you try another Dna test its most likely that iberian won't pop up. But again I don't want to be ignorant, I assumed you were 100% African in my original statement, but if you are mixed perhaps anything is possible.

[@carthiekoivari]

@@yahshuaemanuel6250 no, i do not find your comment offensive at all. What you said was also a fact. I don'tthink it's a surprise with ibarian because we had Portuguese invasion in Kenya before the British, but it could also be just a mistake 😅

[@jboss729]

@@yahshuaemanuel6250 probably not a mistake. The Portuguese are who started the slave trade. I have this ancestry too along with some Middle Eastern and North African blood. Most Africans are not really pure because of slavery and colonialism.

[@just42tube]

Takes a lot of effort for Finnish people at work to use your real name... ?😳 I think that even I could pronounce it in a reasonable way without much challenge... But to remember it, well if they're as hopeless with names as I am, that's an other story. But Katariina wouldn't help me there either. Couldn't it be just a nickname.

[@carthiekoivari]

Actually they pronounce it just as it written which is not how it's pronounced so instead of always correcting each person I just use Katariina. Also I do slot of calls with the hospital and doctors and i can tell you when I used my name at the end of the day, most of the time btw the report back is " i spoke to some foreigner girl". So to avoid all that, i give them a name that they can remember. They like it. Many call me kati or Katariina 😅

[@just42tube]

@@carthiekoivari I have a name that I don't remember foreigners never been able to pronounce in a reasonable way - and I have worked in international companies. I know first hand what it is when nobody gets your name without spelling it to them and even then they can't pronounce it. So I have settled to what ever they can pronounce 😏 And I don't even have a difficult name.

[@carthiekoivari]

@@just42tube 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Finnish names were not always easy, took me years to be able to remember and pronounce them. Also I used to assume a person was either female or male based on their names and i used to be wrong alot of the times

[@just42tube]

@@carthiekoivari I assume that by as written you mean pronouncing syllables as they would be used in a Finnish text?

[@just42tube]

@@carthiekoivari The challenges I have had with my name have taught me some tolerance. My surname has been too confusing for most English speakers, so they usually stop in the middle to think how to say it. They kind of give up. But my given name they mostly think to be a Spanish name and politely pronounce it the Spanish way, which sounds nothing like my name in Finnish. I have learned to smile and say yes, recognizing any interpretation no matter how strange. It has been futile wasted time to try to correct them. There has been some rare exceptions.

[@bonturimurals8914]

You are Gikuyu. I bet you are. There is Maasai DNA in Gikuyu. Your name Wambui from today 😂😂😂😂😂

[@carthiekoivari]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 unfortunately i cannot steal my sister's name 😅😅😅😅

[@bonturimurals8914]

@@carthiekoivari what the? You have a sister whose name is Wambui 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@carthiekoivari]

@@bonturimurals8914 yap 😅😅😅😅

[@keithmburu8269]

Kikuyus did intermarry with some somalis and went into war with them historically and other southern cushitic ethnic groups as well thats why you have somali ancestry meaning one of ur ancestors married a somali and one of ur ancestors is somali, bantu is actually from central africa and that is why ur CA bantu dna is low because its dying you are now becoming a hybrid an EA bantu = bantu from EA with nilotic and cushitic heritage, your middle eastern dna is probably from the Arab slave trade in EA which kikuyus didn't participate in but they repelled the Arabs and neighboring ethnic groups such as the kamba were involved in that slave trade, try 23andme as well its good for East Africans

[@carthiekoivari]

Thank you. You and i share alot of thoughts. I will do a 23 and me and compare😊😊😊

[@thedante7722]

Kikuyus actually fought with the Galla more (Oromos) than Somalis. Somalis dominate Southern Somali latter on and current North Eastern Province. Before that, it was the galla who used to dominate and they completely loose power in the 1890s. That's why the Swahili say MGalla muue umpatie haki, not Msomali. The Mijikenda also talk about the Galla. That Somali DNA is most likely more Oromos it's only that the company doesn't label it as such.

[@carthiekoivari]

@@thedante7722 Thank you. That was very informative ☺️

[@PleasantGreetings2u]

I'm African American from the US. My DNA of 98% from Africa shows I have 3% Luhya which is a Bantu tribe that is now in Kenya EA. My other 3% is Amazonian Native American from Brazil. The Bantu people have migrated to many parts of Africa.

[@safiya1629]

you defo have a swahili grandparent or something

[@tahliah6691]

Bantu is a native African language group not a people 👀 and east Africa has always had Bantu speaking tribes eg the zanj whom the Somalis and Ethiopian habesha enslaved and sold into Arabia and beyond …. Bantu speakers are a large and very scattered tribe in Africa ….. the Maasai have Arab dna as do the Somalis and some Ethiopians like the Amhara as mixed people in Africa. It’s a myth that Bantu speakers did not inhabit east Africa…. Eg west Africans are not Bantu speakers …. Also it’s a myth that African people originated in Ethiopia…. There’s no genetic evidence or visual evidence at all …. There’s no genetic link between most African peoples and Ethiopian tribes eg the Amhara who originated from Yemen eg the Hamayar people

[@michiga5220]

Everything you wrote is 100% false, bantu expansion was real, bantu languages connect to weat africa, life did start in ethiopia and somalis and ethiopians are NOT mixed with arab. Your probably an african american.

[@umojapress2857]

@@michiga5220 21 bantu countries and counting 😆 Viva bantu unity

[@michiga5220]

@@umojapress2857 educate your friend then, it seems like they dont want unity with you🤣

[@umojapress2857]

​@@michiga5220 We already have bantu socio-economic blocs like EAC, SADC and ECCAS. Next is an exclusive bantu identity your kind cannot leech on like you do with black identity 😆

[@michiga5220]

@@umojapress2857 lets see if they work, there have not shown sign, even so those you named arent bantu, theres different types of africans in those places like nilotic, pygmie and cushitic groups. They are not the same, neither is it a bantu group, its east african. Kagame of rwanda is not bantu.

[@coyoluo]

The 14% Nigerian went to your face Nigerian, the name Ife would fit you.

[@noureddinejabri7068]

hi carthie i want to ask you in private please

[@carthiekoivari]

Instagram @carthiekoivari ☺️